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Football relies on collective team play. A very great player like Messi or Ronaldo can still maintain their great performance even until the age of 40. But this MMA is different. A fighter really relies on himself and is required to always have great physicality and stamina to finish every fight. In football, a player can become famous at the age of 20. But in MMA you need to be around 25 years old to be known to the world. The golden age for footballers is 27-30 years, while the golden age for MMA fighters is 30-33 years. That is my personal opinion. Basically, each sport has its own age limit. I wonder if what made Tony choose to keep fighting was because of his desire or because of money?

$500k is not what it used to be, and it's not all that rosy if you consider he has to pay taxes on that as well as pay for his camp etc. At the end of the day, it's not win/lose statistics that sell fights, but the popularity of the fighters.
Like him or not, Tony was/is a big name and so is Paddy, both can sell fights better than many others from the top 15.


I imagine the UFC only pays fighters for the fights, so even if Tony has an active contract, if they don't want him to fight - they could just let him go so he could fight elsewhere, if that's what he chooses. I don't think they would have a contractual obligation to organise another fight(s) for Tony (I could be wrong here), so they could mutually agree to terminate the contract.

crazy stuff dana has got to stop inviting Trump over there.  they've been acting crazy on camera even colby. sean is at least genuinely crazy and can be annoying to his opponent. but there is just none of them is like conor who can back what he says on camera during his prime days.

they have to have something great to show when the ufc is back like the superfight that dana was promising to make up for having no ufc in weeks.

micheal page vs holland
zhang vs grasso

i think will be in the main card. mike page's first at 37. 

I also believe it was fake. And I said that because Strickland is someone who does a lot in front of the camera. What I have heard is that he is a very different person on camera and off camera. And of course, this was staged. So that they can sell more pay per views. And I think it might actually work. But obviously not that much. If they actually want to make a record-breaking sale, they will again have to bring Conor McGregor or someone like him to break another bus 

Regards

Duke

Such as life man, sometimes we see them changing so fast even though they are not in the retiring years of their life as professional MMA fighters. But when they lose room for improvement and they are fighting with some good fighters that could actually easily beat them, that's when they get their losing streak because most of those fighters are taking their fight seriously and most of the time they have improved before stepping into the ring. therefore, it would be best for him not to go there anymore and look for another opportunity since he is still popular today anyway.

Ho-ho-ho,

Uncle Dana has started a 12 days of giveaways.


He has started a giveaway in exchange of subscribing to newsletter of different brands. You can read more of it @ https://www.ufc.com/12days. Are going to participate or just pass? All they are asking are email and mobile phone. I think I am going to pass. Dont want to find out that all of a sudden I've a contract with them

https://www.thescore.com/mma/news/2797595 what is that, is Makhachev planning to move on on one division higher? Will Edwards accept such risk?

Then David Goggins is the best choice for organizing his best decision in life, for sure Tony Ferguson does really like his mentor now and David Goggins is providing him with great possible decisions but right now he really needs it in making good decisions, even though Goggins doesn't provide him with the technical approached fighting but if it works for him and he is happy about it then it is a good choice but for me, Tony Ferguson really needs to retire,


It was really sad but this is a true thing that is happening now not only in UFC but with other fighting organizations, and like what they said nothing lasts forever, every fighter will need to take down their gloves for other opportunities, and for other things that they need to fix in their life, or pushing careers the next goal in their life, as age also is a big factor and Tony Ferguson would need to accept the facts that he is not needed anymore in the UFC but maybe in the change of organization maybe Tony Ferguson can do well in that other fighting promotion, but I could be wrong with this, but it is all up for Ferguson is he will eventually do it,

Hi career can be calculated by 3 or 6 fight contracts. UFC dont give other options for non super-mega-elite fighters. Just when he fought Gaethji, his new contract supposed to start working. That 7 loosing streak isnt a record. B.J. Penn, former lightweight champion also had 7 straight losses (however he has retired after 7th), Koscheck has 6 lose streak, Lombard with 6. After such series, fighters continue in other promotion. But since Tony help to sell tickets, he is still good for UFC 

According to Nyfights.com, Tony Ferguson was paid $500k against Pimblett. I find this hard to believe though knowing he remained winless for years now. But if this is true then most likely it's the reason why Tony is not retiring until his contract expires.

Dana though mentioned he loves to see Tony retiring. And it will be done unless Tony's contract is still not finished and the base pay might be too good to give up. If ever Tony is fighting again, I would like to see him against someone outside the rankings, someone winnable so he might consider retiring after a win. But in the financial aspect, if the base pay is too high and Tony won't agree to a lower rate it is hard to give him an easy opponent. But at least Dana is clear about not wanting to see Tony fight again.

Dana can only arrange a farewell fight only if Tony agrees to retire. Otherwise it would be just another fight. No one can force Tony to retire other than himself though and I don't think he's ready to do that.
If he decides to carry on fighting, UFC has two options: release him from his contract and let him go to a different organisation, or just make him fight lower-ranked fighters for much less money. The first option should be much more profitable for Tony, as he could still capitalise on his fame, despite all the losses.

For this post, this is really the 1st time that I am posting here in the UFC and I see Tony Ferguson should retire now in my opinion as he is currently on a 7 losses streak it is a shame for older fighters to have a hard time with the younger fighters, but that is life "father time" is getting on to us and for this fight, Tony Ferguson is not really exempted in this kind of situation, as for everyone will be going in that kind of law on time will also get us,


If Tony Ferguson would not allow his resignation I think Dana White should arrange some farewell fight for a legend like Ferguson, as surely Tony Ferguson saved a lot of events in the UFC and it was thanks to him if he doesn't accept those short notice fights back then for the UFC, so I think UFC is really grateful for a Tony Ferguson but the Situation is something different and for sure a Tony Ferguson just needed some explaining and convincing first and if that doesn't ring something on Ferguson then I think the UFC needs to drop the bombs on him that the UFC is not needing him anymore, or offering him a large amount for good,


I agree a different fighting organization should work and I think it works a lot of things for former UFC Fedor Emelianenko, who has found success with Bellator, Demetrious Johnson a sudden ill-treatment for the UFC so he decided to go with ONE-Championship, Randy Couture after UFC find great success with his acting career, and a lot more fighters I for sure if I mention them all will be so much,

That is an accusation that we are giving to El-Cucuy's wife but for sure it is something that may happen and may not happen at all, even though Cristina Servin is the one that done such things we can not say that she is doing something against Tony Ferguson's back this is his wife for sure she will do what if best for her family and that is for sure is it, and for sure she has Tony Ferguson's beautiful kids I really don't want the kids to really suffer just because of what their parent did wrong if El Cucuy's is having a problem with his wife then that is their problem


For sure all of those fights are amazing, actually, I got all of my bets and all winning statuses, I am not convinced about Covington in that fight Leon Edwards fainting was great but the only thing that I think Leon Edwards did wrong here is to engage a takedown against Covington as this has given a round to Colby Covington, but Convington have done wrong in this fight was to engage with Edwards great striking, for sure Donald Trump wasn't really happy about the fight,


Actually, I have seen a great performance by Tony Ferguson even though it is not a win for him withstanding against a young Paddy Pimblett is something with his age is something great and for sure if the fight continues I think Tony Ferguson will eventually win that match, but it was a really close match and Ferguson will be needing help from his mindset and having a mental issue is something serious but I am really confused by it, as he hired David Goggins in improving his mindset which for sure there are a lot of positive views for Tony Ferguson in this fight,

Long story short. You have said that you are ashamed of Tony, because he has 0-7 record in last 7 fights. I say that it is nothing bad to have 0-7 when you are old and fight against best. People who keep on giving him opponents, people who still tell him “you can do it” - they are the one who must be ashamed off.

I gave football just as an example. Using your words, if I play against Ronaldo and lose 0-100 during those 90+ min, I should be ashamed that. But in general, imho, I should be happy that it is only 100-0

It's not even about age. Just look at a real legendary fighter Cro Cop. He had a few fights between 2016 and 2018 when he was 42-44 years old and won every single one ending his career with a streak of 9 wins. Tony's mind is the problem. I heard he's depressed, probably even suicidal. His early wins built him up too much and when losses started coming he couldn't handle it. His ego destroyed his chances of winning, that's how I see it and his career is over. I don't think he's going to come back from this and maybe it's for the better.

It is sad to see Tony Ferguson not be the same man as he once was. He is still a pretty good fighter. But he is not the fighter he was anymore. The age just got to him. He just had gave more than his 100% when he was younger. And now his body literally cannot take it anymore. I understand why Dana White said that it is disrespectful to talk about the retirement of Tony Ferguson. But at this point, it is about the health of that fighter. After all what we have seen, I think he is even ready to die in the ring. So we have to save him from himself.

I think it might have been his last fight in the UFC. I'm sure they would be happy to arrange an official "good-bye" fight, but I don't think Tony would ever acknowledge that it's time to retire, so he probably will be looking to go to a different organisation, and many would gladly take him on.
Anyhow, Dana publicly said he thinks Tony should retire, and that's saying a lot.


I think every fighter should try a new environment(s) sometime. Making a change just for the sake of it could work wonders. He doesn't even have to quit his current gym, he could use it for his everyday training and move to a more professional camp for fight preparations, that's what some fighters do.

I don't understand what's the point of your post, do you want to prove that it's not disrespect from Tony to himself that he doesn't retire after 7 loses in a row? Or what?
Tony Ferguson is 39 years old. Once he was a legendary fighter, we both agree and he was beating other guys. Today, we see that other guys are beating him. It doesn't matter who is his opponent, he got beaten by 7 times in a row. This means that Tony is old and has to retire to respect himself. How many times should he get beaten to give up and retire? 10 times? 20 times?

Football is a very different sport. Take Messi for example, he is 36 years old but plays way better than 99.999% of footballers. Tony doesn't fight better than 99.999% fighters.

His camp should ban him from every pub and fast food that are near 1000km the place he trains. And it wont be a miracle if triple pepperoni mozzarella cannelloni extra majo king size big tasty whooper suddenly became the reason why he was breathing heavily during last round against almost 40yo veteran, who he had to beat easily.

During post fight conference Dana told that it isnt respectful to discuss Tony retirement, but if he was him, he would think of retirement. Maybe we are wrong here to say that UFC are using him as milking cow. Maybe its Tony's decision to continue to fight, and UFC only give him such opportunity.

It's funny how Ferguson isn't the fighter he was around 4 - 5 years ago but the fans can't seem to stop talking about him.  It's prolly why the UFC likes keeping him around because he's still a good draw who could help sell PPV's.  Think about it...  Why would a guy with a 6 fight losing streak still get a spot in a PPV in one of the hest cards of the year?  He wouldn't be there if he didn't make it better.

Was rooting for Ferguson but there's no way he's winning vs Pimblett.

And speaking of Pimblett, the guy should leave his camp for a better camp to improve.  His physical attributes are there and you know he could be a better fighter but I feel like his camp isn't gonna be the one to get his best out of him.

At first I wanted to blame lazy tokeweed for not having his job done this morning As we all dont see new event announcement. But it turns out that UFC is now off to Christmas & New Year holidays, as the next event will be only on January 13-14 2024. tokeweed, you are officially forgiven.

Lets focus on DDP vs Strickland free fight of the night This looked so fake, so artificial, so staged. I like how Strickland asked Burns wife and kids to move and give him space Its is nice that he wasnt dumb enough to start brawl so near them. Why I think it was staged - because camera was suddenly in front of them, and they sat so close. They had all time of the world to start brawl, but they have started it only when camera was shooting