The Well Deserved Fortune of Satoshi Nakamoto, Visionary and Genious - page 2.

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Quote from: GermanGiant on September 20, 2015, 06:43:36 PM

Here, it seems, he is indicating you...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ln77n/coinbases_from_feb_3_2009_just_moved_for_the/cv7pxzl

If I know that person's other account, I don't know that I know it.

(I didn't enter the Bitcoin scene until a year after that person mined those bitcoins.)

Quote from: americanpegasus on September 20, 2015, 07:03:48 PM

At some point in the future.... It could be 2018, or it could be 2025, the Satoshi Recovery False Flag is coming.

I really don't think that Satoshi is government.

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Put your tinfoil hat on ladies and gentleman.

Got it? Good.

At some point in the future.... It could be 2018, or it could be 2025, the Satoshi Recovery False Flag is coming.

This will be where the powers that be 'miraculously' recover the Satoshi million. This will certainly happen well after Bitcoin goes mainstream and also right before things start to look very dire for the dollar.

One of two scenarios will happen: 1.) a group of scientists and academics will claim to have uncovered the fortune of Satoshi, and will use it to bail out the federal government (given some stipulations of course). 2.) an abandoned computer facility will be 'found' (ala James Bond Skyfall Island) with the million Satishi coins. The government will have a 'panel' determine what to do with them, and the answer will be to add them to the treasury and use them to back the U.S. Dollar.

That's my guess.

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Quote from: theymos on September 20, 2015, 06:25:02 PM

Quote from: GermanGiant on September 20, 2015, 04:03:30 PM

Then how do you hand out IP ban on reddit ?

You can't.

Here, it seems, he is indicating you...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ln77n/coinbases_from_feb_3_2009_just_moved_for_the/cv7pxzl

Is not it ? You have spoken to Satoshi many a times. Does /u/btcthwy response style matches with him ? I mean, do you get any resemblance ?

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Quote from: GermanGiant on September 20, 2015, 04:03:30 PM

Then how do you hand out IP ban on reddit ?

You can't.

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Quote from: theymos on September 20, 2015, 03:13:28 PM

Quote from: GermanGiant on September 20, 2015, 02:44:38 PM

Could you please check if https://www.reddit.com/user/btcthwy is accessing reddit via Tor ?

Reddit mods don't have access to that info. (And I wouldn't publish that info anyway.)

Then how do you hand out IP ban on reddit ? You are the owner of /r/bitcoin and I guess, owners do have aceess to the IP log... no ?

But, I am not asking btcthwy identity to be revealed anyway. All I am asking is whether he is using Tor or not.

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wow one year of premine is bad...

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Quote from: GermanGiant on September 20, 2015, 02:44:38 PM

Could you please check if https://www.reddit.com/user/btcthwy is accessing reddit via Tor ?

Reddit mods don't have access to that info. (And I wouldn't publish that info anyway.)

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Quote from: theymos on September 20, 2015, 02:05:53 PM

Quote from: jl2012 on September 20, 2015, 12:53:58 PM

He says Bitcoin-qt doesn't allow him to sign with the coinbase address

At least in 0.11.0, that's not true. I just tried it and it worked fine.

Code:

Here's a block I mined -theymos
1HxQavcwsYnLbntANzj1V1yC5ckxZiRELg
HL+XUyNgUovWpaDPeW9bUMBYW6T8ZNqRXazgFNYLhdFPC4sEjGZf27RyCkkZbXe/ivNgYeCC+feBF7TmjtWvNkM=

I signed that on the same wallet.dat file that I used to mine the bitcoins -- I didn't import the private key or anything.

Could you please check if https://www.reddit.com/user/btcthwy is accessing reddit via Tor ?

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Quote from: jl2012 on September 20, 2015, 12:53:58 PM

He says Bitcoin-qt doesn't allow him to sign with the coinbase address

At least in 0.11.0, that's not true. I just tried it and it worked fine.

Code:

Here's a block I mined -theymos
1HxQavcwsYnLbntANzj1V1yC5ckxZiRELg
HL+XUyNgUovWpaDPeW9bUMBYW6T8ZNqRXazgFNYLhdFPC4sEjGZf27RyCkkZbXe/ivNgYeCC+feBF7TmjtWvNkM=

I signed that on the same wallet.dat file that I used to mine the bitcoins -- I didn't import the private key or anything.

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Quote from: HI-TEC99 on September 20, 2015, 12:31:26 PM

Quote from: jl2012 on September 20, 2015, 12:08:08 PM

Someone moved the coinbase reward from blocks 2800, 2816, 2884, 3182, 3194 today: https://www.blockseer.com/g/75j3281Osaeu

This person claims he's the owner of these coins, and he's not Satoshi: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ln3sp/it_was_me/

Does your analysis still hold, given the new information?

That reddit user claimed he moved those coins hours after they had been moved. Also, someone asked him to sign a message to prove he controls those addresses, and he hasn't done it yet. I'll only believe it after he proves it by signing a message, or announcing his intentions to move specific coins in advance. I've become skeptical of any claims of ownership of vast amounts of coins, or ownership of very early coins because it's very rare anyone provides conclusive proof of their claims.

He signed the output address with 265BTC:

http://coinig.com/?adr=1HUidFPHZ7cJ6WYmR8nMPQCmmE3mbVKYjM&msg=It+was+me+20%2F9%2F2015&sig=IC8oSnQ%2BCNMhqDYu7hTQXb%2Bkvrbu%2Fr3EXjiLjLvFIsQuDlxUSqXWZj7TRiLcLnmT%2BErjgjOr7dVRC%2FGB47IKYk0%3D

He says Bitcoin-qt doesn't allow him to sign with the coinbase address

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ln77n/coinbases_from_feb_3_2009_just_moved_for_the/cv7pyra

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Quote from: jl2012 on September 20, 2015, 12:08:08 PM

Someone moved the coinbase reward from blocks 2800, 2816, 2884, 3182, 3194 today: https://www.blockseer.com/g/75j3281Osaeu

This person claims he's the owner of these coins, and he's not Satoshi: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ln3sp/it_was_me/

Does your analysis still hold, given the new information?

That reddit user claimed he moved those coins hours after they had been moved. Also, someone asked him to sign a message to prove he controls those addresses, and he hasn't done it yet. I'll only believe it after he proves it by signing a message, or announcing his intentions to move specific coins in advance. I've become skeptical of any claims of ownership of vast amounts of coins, or ownership of very early coins because it's very rare anyone provides conclusive proof of their claims.

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Someone moved the coinbase reward from blocks 2800, 2816, 2884, 3182, 3194 today: https://www.blockseer.com/g/75j3281Osaeu

This person claims he's the owner of these coins, and he's not Satoshi: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ln3sp/it_was_me/

Does your analysis still hold, given the new information?

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Interesting. What block does the Satoshi pattern disappear on, exactly?

Quote from: Sergio_Demian_Lerner on April 17, 2013, 05:38:47 PM

How Satoshi mining pattern disappears...

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Quote from: johnyj on April 19, 2013, 09:04:59 PM

Here, on Oct 09, 2010, Satoshi announced "SVN rev 163 (ver 0.3.13.3) has the key pool feature. Pre-generated new keys are aged in a queue before use, so that backups of wallet.dat hold keys you'll use in the future."

http://www.bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1414.0

Before that, I don't know how the block generation addresses are handled

Wallets still had multiple keys, they just weren't pooled. The key pool feature makes backups much safer.

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Quote from: theymos on April 18, 2013, 12:14:39 AM

Quote from: johnyj on April 18, 2013, 12:07:25 AM

I suppose that the early version of client have only one address per wallet?

No. Early versions had most of the functionality that Bitcoin-Qt's GUI has now.

Here, on Oct 09, 2010, Satoshi announced "SVN rev 163 (ver 0.3.13.3) has the key pool feature. Pre-generated new keys are aged in a queue before use, so that backups of wallet.dat hold keys you'll use in the future."

http://www.bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1414.0

Before that, I don't know how the block generation addresses are handled

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Quote from: jackjack on April 17, 2013, 07:18:08 AM

I am Satoshi

http://imageshack.us/a/img507/5590/satoshit.png

there he is

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I for one dont think Satoshi is just watching how things evolve and is probably on this board under another nickname or multiple nicknames. Time will tell how he deals with the continuing Bitcoin mania.

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Well, if you want to help Satoshi out, go build a nice system for anonymously participating in something like this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-taint-rich-raw-txn-fun-and-disrupting-taint-analysis-51kbtc-linked-139581

Tongue

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Eadem mutata resurgo

Satoshi needs to come out of retirement (under another Nym of course) to implement zero-coin level privacy so he can move his millions around Wink

Take it to the next level satoshi, show us what ya got.

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in bitcoin we trust

Thats kind of an unfortunate privacy bug. Coincidentally I thought about and fixed a few potential issues like this in hashcash (it was originally designed for anti-DoS for remailers as well as anti-spam for email so privacy and linkability mattered). (hashcash is the bitcoin mining function).

The way I did it is to have a separate field dedicated to adding the randomness to avoid start collisions (two miners choosing the same stamp/coin) and then I just used a never decreasing counter for the mining. Simples QED.

For Satoshi now - maybe he can find a private buyer via a lawyer and swiss banking services.

Or perhaps we're forced to implement zerocoin to protect him

Anyway dont sweat people - he can probably get by on a few $M play money from his post privacy bug fix mining hoard until there's a solution on his post. (When was that bug fixed btw? Cant tell from those low res graphs). And hes' probably holding out for the $10k bitcoin era anyway.

Adam

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