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Topic: The White European should be praised for their actions concerning slavery - page 2. (Read 5735 times)

legendary
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The problem is there are an awful number of Americans ( I noticed black Europeans definitely don't have this attitude problem, probably because we actually learn about history ) seem to have this attitude of well since some white assholes went around enslaving people it's somehow okay to treat every other white person like shit because they 'may' have been related to them through some distant bloodline almost a century ago. Also, you kidding? A bit of a stretch? It's fucking war, the only reason a side ever makes a concession or decides to a truce is so they can either bide their time and gather strength for another attack or because they know they'd wiped each other out if it happened, that's the honest truth, why do you think truce's never last in Ukraine or between Israel and Palestine? They're out to destroy each other.

"Peace proposals unaccompanied by a sworn covenant indicate a plot" - Sun Tzu
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
White people were the only ones that fought a civil war to try and keep slavery

They were the only ones that hung abolitionists
You know a civil war has 2 sides right? Who do you think was fighting the South? Canada? Was the North composed of Chinese people?

Yeah, the other party was fighting for their freedom, the same way our founding fathers fought for our freedom from the British, and the same way we are fighting for our freedom from an oppressive government
So your saying that the Northern white Americans were at risk of being enslaved if the Confederates had won the war?

If you're claiming that the white Americans who lost wouldn't have been enslaved then you're being pretty racist and/or naive ironically, you're also conveniently forgetting about the Roman Empire and how many white slaves they claimed as do many who talk about slavery. Enslavement is something universally inflicted on human beings and this is historical fact, to claim otherwise is extremely disingenuous and also ignores a good portion of black history as well given that somebody would have needed to traffic those people to America and not look suspicious.
I am not defending the moral authority of slavery... lol
As far as your assertion that the white Northerners would have been enslaved if they lost the war... I think that is a bit of a stretch at best. I am also not arguing that whites can not be enslaved or haven't been before, but the confederates wanted to secede from the North, not enslave it...
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1000
White people were the only ones that fought a civil war to try and keep slavery

They were the only ones that hung abolitionists
You know a civil war has 2 sides right? Who do you think was fighting the South? Canada? Was the North composed of Chinese people?

Yeah, the other party was fighting for their freedom, the same way our founding fathers fought for our freedom from the British, and the same way we are fighting for our freedom from an oppressive government
So your saying that the Northern white Americans were at risk of being enslaved if the Confederates had won the war?

If you're claiming that the white Americans who lost wouldn't have been enslaved then you're being pretty racist and/or naive ironically, you're also conveniently forgetting about the Roman Empire and how many white slaves they claimed as do many who talk about slavery. Enslavement is something universally inflicted on human beings and this is historical fact, to claim otherwise is extremely disingenuous and also ignores a good portion of black history as well given that somebody would have needed to traffic those people to America and not look suspicious.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
White people were the only ones that fought a civil war to try and keep slavery

They were the only ones that hung abolitionists
You know a civil war has 2 sides right? Who do you think was fighting the South? Canada? Was the North composed of Chinese people?

Yeah, the other party was fighting for their freedom, the same way our founding fathers fought for our freedom from the British, and the same way we are fighting for our freedom from an oppressive government
So your saying that the Northern white Americans were at risk of being enslaved if the Confederates had won the war?
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1018
if it wasn't for Europe there would probably still be slaves in most countries so there deserve less blame than than the middle easterners, less blame than the Asians or Americans and especially less blame than the Africans where slavery is still big : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa

Yes, congratulations. You've proven white Europeans are the master race. /sarcasm

No I was stating a history fact, why is this history fact annoying you so much?

White Europeans have their problems but when we are talking about slavery, they are the first ones who abolish it when everyone was having slaves

What you stated was an opinion. "If it wasn't for Europe there would probably still be slaves in most countries so there deserve less blame than the middle easterners, less blame than the Asians or Americans and especially less blame than the Africans where slavery is still big." That's your exact quote. Note that there is no historical fact there, it is 100% pure opinion. It's your opinion I'm taking issue with, because the underlying tone of your opinion is racist. You can tell it's racist by the fact that you're obsessed with proving whites, as a race, deserve more credit than other races (in your words: Middle Easterners, Asians, and especially Africans) on slavery. Your opinion is implying whites are better because they did something better than the other races you mentioned.

That's what is annoying me so much.

Am stating a history fact that I never really thought of before watching Molyneux's video; it is stupid to shame Europeans or White Americans for slavery, if anything I was saying a bit provocatively we should praise them

Saying something positive about white black asian.. is racist? It is utterly stupid
Maybe saying something negative could be seen as racist but you need to think about it a bit more! How saying something positive about Europeans that is an historical fact is racist?

Think your underlying tone of opinion is racist : talking about White privilege is racist and saying the black community still suffer from the slavery that occured before is racist because it is condescendant, put down the community, and is the consequence of thinking they are inferior which is utterly racist; the fact is they suffered from government intervention and hands outs more than any other community in the states and that is why they perform worse
hero member
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Shut up and praise the white people. What is so hard about that? Why won't you guys stop oppressing me? I didn't ask to be born white!
full member
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You probably thought I lost it but you will understand what I mean if you watch the end of the Stefan Molyneux's video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auQJMLWx6og&list=UUC3L8QaxqEGUiBC252GHy3w

Molyneux is very direct but after you are shocked by what he is saying you usually start thinking that what he is saying make a lot of sense; in this video, he is talking about the fact that slavery was present in every culture and most countries for thousands of years : Africa, Americas, Middle East, Asia and Europe until Europeans fought to abolish it, yet we still hear that the White Europeans were the biggest bad guys concerning slavery and should feel ashamed when they should be praised if anything


How is abolishing slavery working out for European and American so far?

Your country is being practically conquered by cock.
hero member
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White people were the only ones that fought a civil war to try and keep slavery

They were the only ones that hung abolitionists
You know a civil war has 2 sides right? Who do you think was fighting the South? Canada? Was the North composed of Chinese people?

Yeah, the other party was fighting for their freedom, the same way our founding fathers fought for our freedom from the British, and the same way we are fighting for our freedom from an oppressive government
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
if it wasn't for Europe there would probably still be slaves in most countries so there deserve less blame than than the middle easterners, less blame than the Asians or Americans and especially less blame than the Africans where slavery is still big : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa

Yes, congratulations. You've proven white Europeans are the master race. /sarcasm

No I was stating a history fact, why is this history fact annoying you so much?

White Europeans have their problems but when we are talking about slavery, they are the first ones who abolish it when everyone was having slaves

What you stated was an opinion. "If it wasn't for Europe there would probably still be slaves in most countries so there deserve less blame than the middle easterners, less blame than the Asians or Americans and especially less blame than the Africans where slavery is still big." That's your exact quote. Note that there is no historical fact there, it is 100% pure opinion. It's your opinion I'm taking issue with, because the underlying tone of your opinion is racist. You can tell it's racist by the fact that you're obsessed with proving whites, as a race, deserve more credit than other races (in your words: Middle Easterners, Asians, and especially Africans) on slavery. Your opinion is implying whites are better because they did something better than the other races you mentioned.

That's what is annoying me so much.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
White people were the only ones that fought a civil war to try and keep slavery

They were the only ones that hung abolitionists
You know a civil war has 2 sides right? Who do you think was fighting the South? Canada? Was the North composed of Chinese people?
full member
Activity: 143
Merit: 104
In America, white people hated slavery because it undercut white working class people in terms of wages.  You can't beat free labor!  Whites also hated slavery because there were laws requiring people to patrol for runaway slaves even if they didn't want to.  Most of the people on forced patrol were thinking, "Why the hell is it my responsibility to look for runaway slaves?  Shouldn't the damn slave owner be the one doing this?"
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 504
White people were the only ones that fought a civil war to try and keep slavery

They were the only ones that hung abolitionists
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1018
Slavery has existed for thousands of year, it was huge in Africa, the Africans were indeed the biggest slavers of Africans and were the ones who sold Africans to Americans; slavery was big in the middle east and existed in Asia too

The European, more precisely catholics white europeans were the first one to abolish it and push for its global abolition and they succeeded; yet they seem to have the ones who get the shame now!? It's very stupid and giving blame to Europeans or white for slavery is changing history since every culture and all ethnic groups were having slaves and white were the first one to abolish it

By the way, the current problems of the Black community in the USA are due to government programs that are suppose to help them but keep them in poverty and it's due to the fight against marijuana that results in way more negative than positive
Pointing out that they were pioneers in the race based slave trade is not "blaming" Europe, simply pointing out it is not an American invention regardless of how the media portrays it. Also doesn't Europe deserve its share of the blame? After all it did practice slavery as well, and certainly profited handsomely from the trade in the Americas.

Race base slavery was obviously not invented by the USA but it wasn't invented by Europe either, slavery in Africa was between different ethnicities.

All regions of the world had slaves, Europe didn't have more than other regions, it had less and there are the first ones who started the movement of abolition and succeeded first then pushed for everyone to abolish slavery and still do; if it wasn't for Europe there would probably still be slaves in most countries so there deserve less blame than than the middle easterners, less blame than the Asians or Americans and especially less blame than the Africans where slavery is still big : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa
While I agree Europe probably didn't invent race slavery, they most certainly did house the worlds LARGEST raced based slave trade corporations, and made the most profit from the trade. As far as them deserving less blame because they were some of the early pioneers of abolition of slavery is not exactly valid either. A bad act doesn't erase a good act just as good doesn't erase a bad act.

They didn't start it and they were the sole first ones to abolish it and when it comes to being the world's largest raced based slave trade corporations owners, can't tell you 100% it is not true because don't have the statistics but let's find them and know for sure, my instinct tells me they were not the biggest slavers at any time of history
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
Slavery has existed for thousands of year, it was huge in Africa, the Africans were indeed the biggest slavers of Africans and were the ones who sold Africans to Americans; slavery was big in the middle east and existed in Asia too

The European, more precisely catholics white europeans were the first one to abolish it and push for its global abolition and they succeeded; yet they seem to have the ones who get the shame now!? It's very stupid and giving blame to Europeans or white for slavery is changing history since every culture and all ethnic groups were having slaves and white were the first one to abolish it

By the way, the current problems of the Black community in the USA are due to government programs that are suppose to help them but keep them in poverty and it's due to the fight against marijuana that results in way more negative than positive
Pointing out that they were pioneers in the race based slave trade is not "blaming" Europe, simply pointing out it is not an American invention regardless of how the media portrays it. Also doesn't Europe deserve its share of the blame? After all it did practice slavery as well, and certainly profited handsomely from the trade in the Americas.

Race base slavery was obviously not invented by the USA but it wasn't invented by Europe either, slavery in Africa was between different ethnicities.

All regions of the world had slaves, Europe didn't have more than other regions, it had less and there are the first ones who started the movement of abolition and succeeded first then pushed for everyone to abolish slavery and still do; if it wasn't for Europe there would probably still be slaves in most countries so there deserve less blame than than the middle easterners, less blame than the Asians or Americans and especially less blame than the Africans where slavery is still big : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa
While I agree Europe probably didn't invent race slavery, they most certainly did house the worlds LARGEST raced based slave trade corporations, and made the most profit from the trade. As far as them deserving less blame because they were some of the early pioneers of abolition of slavery is not exactly valid either. A bad act doesn't erase a good act just as good doesn't erase a bad act.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1018
if it wasn't for Europe there would probably still be slaves in most countries so there deserve less blame than than the middle easterners, less blame than the Asians or Americans and especially less blame than the Africans where slavery is still big : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa

Yes, congratulations. You've proven white Europeans are the master race. /sarcasm

No I was stating a history fact, why is this history fact annoying you so much?

White Europeans have their problems but when we are talking about slavery, they are the first ones who abolish it when everyone was having slaves
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1000
I'm half-irish, so fuck off ^_^
hero member
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"Our race is the master race"
~White guys everywhere
member
Activity: 98
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if it wasn't for Europe there would probably still be slaves in most countries so there deserve less blame than than the middle easterners, less blame than the Asians or Americans and especially less blame than the Africans where slavery is still big : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa

Yes, congratulations. You've proven white Europeans are the master race. /sarcasm
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1018
Slavery has existed for thousands of year, it was huge in Africa, the Africans were indeed the biggest slavers of Africans and were the ones who sold Africans to Americans; slavery was big in the middle east and existed in Asia too

The European, more precisely catholics white europeans were the first one to abolish it and push for its global abolition and they succeeded; yet they seem to have the ones who get the shame now!? It's very stupid and giving blame to Europeans or white for slavery is changing history since every culture and all ethnic groups were having slaves and white were the first one to abolish it

By the way, the current problems of the Black community in the USA are due to government programs that are suppose to help them but keep them in poverty and it's due to the fight against marijuana that results in way more negative than positive
Pointing out that they were pioneers in the race based slave trade is not "blaming" Europe, simply pointing out it is not an American invention regardless of how the media portrays it. Also doesn't Europe deserve its share of the blame? After all it did practice slavery as well, and certainly profited handsomely from the trade in the Americas.

Race base slavery was obviously not invented by the USA but it wasn't invented by Europe either, slavery in Africa was between different ethnicities.

All regions of the world had slaves, Europe didn't have more than other regions, it had less and there are the first ones who started the movement of abolition and succeeded first then pushed for everyone to abolish slavery and still do; if it wasn't for Europe there would probably still be slaves in most countries so there deserve less blame than than the middle easterners, less blame than the Asians or Americans and especially less blame than the Africans where slavery is still big : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
Slavery has existed for thousands of year, it was huge in Africa, the Africans were indeed the biggest slavers of Africans and were the ones who sold Africans to Americans; slavery was big in the middle east and existed in Asia too

The European, more precisely catholics white europeans were the first one to abolish it and push for its global abolition and they succeeded; yet they seem to have the ones who get the shame now!? It's very stupid and giving blame to Europeans or white for slavery is changing history since every culture and all ethnic groups were having slaves and white were the first one to abolish it

By the way, the current problems of the Black community in the USA are due to government programs that are suppose to help them but keep them in poverty and it's due to the fight against marijuana that results in way more negative than positive
Pointing out that they were pioneers in the race based slave trade is not "blaming" Europe, simply pointing out it is not an American invention regardless of how the media portrays it. Also doesn't Europe deserve its share of the blame? After all it did practice slavery as well, and certainly profited handsomely from the trade in the Americas.
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