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The first post of puzzle.me is also matching your handle. How do you plan on explaining that?
You know, I know over 6 people(some are well known here) who had the same idea of bitcoin quiz in their mind. And I've explained about it before.

The first post of puzzle.me is also matching your handle. How do you plan on explaining that?

@thebitcoinquiz.com: Can't you just agree now that you are an alt of puzzel.me?
No. I cant cause I am not. I started to control the account after november/december 2014, and since then it hasn't been involved in any scam.
And so why cant QS agree that he mistook me and rushed his decisions and by mistake accused me of being someone else's alt? Ill really have respect for him if he starts looking at this case from a neutral view and don't accuse me of doing wrong things based on assumptions. And if you(qs) feel I sent you PMs to you from different accounts then report them to Badbear and ask him if I am the one who is pming you from multiple accounts, cause I have just pmed you from this account. And just for the record, I have never ever accessed cryptforcause's account.

Thanks
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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
Did puzzel.me scam anyone?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-shibaroll-has-lost-all-of-its-br-785003

He seems to own over 50% of the forum accounts here.

False.

To me it appears puzzel.me tried to scam by blackmailing a member. Anyways, attempting to scam and being a scammer is almost the same thing and this user has been creating numerous accounts on this forum.

Having dealt with stellar, he seemed to be genuine but the amount was really small to say anything.

I have dealt with cryptoforcause, thebitcoinquiz.com and stellar. Didn't know they were one person! Grin
legendary
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Did puzzel.me scam anyone? He seems to own over 50% of the forum accounts here. To me it appears puzzel.me tried to scam by blackmailing a member. Anyways, attempting to scam and being a scammer is almost the same thing and this user has been creating numerous accounts on this forum.

Having dealt with stellar, he seemed to be genuine but the amount was really small to say anything.
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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
The first post of puzzle.me is also matching your handle. How do you plan on explaining that?

@thebitcoinquiz.com: Can't you just agree now that you are an alt of puzzel.me?

Lol, he got no choice left now, right? Will love to see what he got now to defend himself. Yet another story?

Do you have a choice? Why are you keep calling yourself a scammer? Are you thinking this can be taken as proof to claim you are not alt of puzzel.me? Then you are wrong!
hero member
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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
The first post of puzzle.me is also matching your handle. How do you plan on explaining that?

@thebitcoinquiz.com: Can't you just agree now that you are an alt of puzzel.me?
copper member
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The first post of puzzle.me is also matching your handle. How do you plan on explaining that?
sr. member
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When being asked upon further questions and explanations Quickseller replied me that now he wont explain anything further to me about how he assumed that those accounts were my alts cuz he thinks that I am learning from his responses. He has even blocked my PMs now.

Clearly he doesn't have anything to explain and thus cannot explain it and in this situation where QS has failed to explain his proofs further, I believe that now I don't deserve that negative trust.

This is again a case of quickseller rushing toward making bad decisions and destroying other's account. And now he is again fearful of being wrong again and hence my PMs have been blocked.
I am not wrong. Stop talking to yourself with your alts on here, it is very annoying. IMO it is pretty clear that you are trying to make it appear as if your alts are not actually controlled by you.
I swear to god or whomsoever you want, I've not accessed even a single alt account after you made this post.

Please start showing proofs rather than trying to divert the topic. You know your proofs cannot show that  I "created and scammed" with the accounts I bought for reselling, you are making false assumptions based on the facts that I myself clearly told you. You don't even have explanations.
It would be good if you apologize for your wrong accusation and then we can browse the forum peacefully.
My proof is in the OP. If you don't understand how my proof connections your two accounts then feel free to open a thread asking for an explanation. The connection is solid
Your proofs don't explain that how is it possible that I couldn't have bought these accounts in November/december?

I am myself accepting that I was using these accounts since November /december, and all the addresses you mentioned in the OP have been used since november/december, and I was trading in a lot of forum accounts at that time. I am myself accepting those addresses are mine?
What proof are you giving? Nothing? You are just saying what I've told you but how can you claim that I didn't buy these accounts?
stellar69 is tagged as being a probable alt of puzzel.me by BadBear (in mid December). This account asked for a loan on this post to be funded to 1DDpkieFmJuRAskNYzDAdDfjhFqRHAmeNk which also signed the above transaction. Not only that, but since he offered collateral, he got the loan and repaid it via txid a54650f6ce38ddd5b46606fa94d4ee0f50bfd9ec025b0dc3d259b7a2baafbd5c which he posted here and had inputs from 1DDpkieFmJuRAskNYzDAdDfjhFqRHAmeNk

edit: Also the very first post by puzzel.me is this which was a contest entitled "The Bitcoin Quiz! Win Upto 1BTC! From 5th August to 11th August "
He got neg trust from Badbear in mid December but he had already got negative trust in November by others and this never spoiled the timeline! I've been explaining everything to you since the beginning. Stop harassing me and asking me for same things multiple times.
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When being asked upon further questions and explanations Quickseller replied me that now he wont explain anything further to me about how he assumed that those accounts were my alts cuz he thinks that I am learning from his responses. He has even blocked my PMs now.

Clearly he doesn't have anything to explain and thus cannot explain it and in this situation where QS has failed to explain his proofs further, I believe that now I don't deserve that negative trust.

This is again a case of quickseller rushing toward making bad decisions and destroying other's account. And now he is again fearful of being wrong again and hence my PMs have been blocked.
I am not wrong. Stop talking to yourself with your alts on here, it is very annoying. IMO it is pretty clear that you are trying to make it appear as if your alts are not actually controlled by you.
I swear to god or whomsoever you want, I've not accessed even a single alt account after you made this post.

Please start showing proofs rather than trying to divert the topic. You know your proofs cannot show that  I "created and scammed" with the accounts I bought for reselling, you are making false assumptions based on the facts that I myself clearly told you. You don't even have explanations.
It would be good if you apologize for your wrong accusation and then we can browse the forum peacefully.
My proof is in the OP. If you don't understand how my proof connections your two accounts then feel free to open a thread asking for an explanation. The connection is solid
Your proofs don't explain that how is it possible that I couldn't have bought these accounts in November/december?

I am myself accepting that I was using these accounts since November /december, and all the addresses you mentioned in the OP have been used since november/december, and I was trading in a lot of forum accounts at that time. I am myself accepting those addresses are mine?
What proof are you giving? Nothing? You are just saying what I've told you but how can you claim that I didn't buy these accounts?
stellar69 is tagged as being a probable alt of puzzel.me by BadBear (in mid December). This account asked for a loan on this post to be funded to 1DDpkieFmJuRAskNYzDAdDfjhFqRHAmeNk which also signed the above transaction. Not only that, but since he offered collateral, he got the loan and repaid it via txid a54650f6ce38ddd5b46606fa94d4ee0f50bfd9ec025b0dc3d259b7a2baafbd5c which he posted here and had inputs from 1DDpkieFmJuRAskNYzDAdDfjhFqRHAmeNk

edit: Also the very first post by puzzel.me is this which was a contest entitled "The Bitcoin Quiz! Win Upto 1BTC! From 5th August to 11th August "
sr. member
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When being asked upon further questions and explanations Quickseller replied me that now he wont explain anything further to me about how he assumed that those accounts were my alts cuz he thinks that I am learning from his responses. He has even blocked my PMs now.

Clearly he doesn't have anything to explain and thus cannot explain it and in this situation where QS has failed to explain his proofs further, I believe that now I don't deserve that negative trust.

This is again a case of quickseller rushing toward making bad decisions and destroying other's account. And now he is again fearful of being wrong again and hence my PMs have been blocked.
I am not wrong. Stop talking to yourself with your alts on here, it is very annoying. IMO it is pretty clear that you are trying to make it appear as if your alts are not actually controlled by you.
I swear to god or whomsoever you want, I've not accessed even a single alt account after you made this post.

Please start showing proofs rather than trying to divert the topic. You know your proofs cannot show that  I "created and scammed" with the accounts I bought for reselling, you are making false assumptions based on the facts that I myself clearly told you. You don't even have explanations.
It would be good if you apologize for your wrong accusation and then we can browse the forum peacefully.
My proof is in the OP. If you don't understand how my proof connections your two accounts then feel free to open a thread asking for an explanation. The connection is solid
Your proofs don't explain that how is it possible that I couldn't have bought these accounts in November/december?

I am myself accepting that I was using these accounts since November /december, and all the addresses you mentioned in the OP have been used since november/december, and I was trading in a lot of forum accounts at that time. I am myself accepting those addresses are mine?
What proof are you giving? Nothing? You are just saying what I've told you but how can you claim that I didn't buy these accounts?
hero member
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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
there are many proven alts of puzzle.me like cryptocause  the guy who has positive feedback even after he was proven as alt of puzzle.me
he has a clean account with positive feedback so he can scam anyone with his positive trust

quickseller already posted proofs about him, relation between puzzle.me and cryptocause
there are 2-3 more alts of him

I ain't Puzzel.me's alt. If you can check that meta post you will find that I posted over there only that its thebitcoinquiz.com who is his alt not me but I didn't have any proofs at that time. I contacted MZ in PM and showed him a few proofs but later I thought it isn't worth, you can ask MZ about this.
I knew that thebitcoinquiz was holding this account when I got accused of being puzzel's alt which am not.

It wasn't proofs. He sent me a few messages between him and thebitcoinquiz.com. I believe he faked it because he is a liar. In those PMs he sent me is that bitcoinquiz.com did say puzzel.me was under his control. Remember, I am saying this by looking at those PMs he sent me. I haven't verfied it by logging into his account or in other ways.

Idk who the actual person behind puzzel.me is

Another lie. Undecided

First of all, that post was made 7 months back and the owner of Puzzel.me is my classmate and he has most probably done that because of some personal issues  Angry
I know his present account on here too.

Also for Quickseller, The loan needs to be repayed on 16th.

Huh

Why did Quickseller add negative trust saying I am an alt of Puzzel.me? I don't even know what/who is puzzel.me?

but earlier I had some troubles with this guy and he intentionally posted my address to destroy my account, and so now as it has been proven the thebitcoinquiz.com is puzzel.me so it proves that I am innocent and the negative rating should be taken off my profile.

QS now u know thebitcoinquiz.com is real puzzel.me so please remove my neg trust. Also if you think am an alt of thebitcoinquiz.com  Angry , then why would I have stated that thebitcoinquiz is puzzel's alt in my Meta post, why would I destroy a close to Sr. Member account seeing one of my account already destroyed? This will be dumb and am not dumb.

And if you still think am his alt then show that am his alt, show that any of my transaction is linked with him (signed by both of us) or provide a solid proof that am him, If you do this I will suck you Dick  Tongue
I am not an alt, I am original Cryptoforcause

It is quite sure puzzel.me didn't impersonate you rather you impersonated him which is very unlikely. See dates.

My user- I am The Best

My Bitcoin Addy- 1BtBqWDJ28o1pWYiqtX1oUcBKpU1d86XSC

Please pay me for my reviews.

https://archive.is/Szcn0

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Reason: Need 0.005 quick as am short of 0.005 for buying a domain. And withdrawal from an exchange hasn't been processed since 2 hours. Will return in 24 hours as the ticket I filed says I will get my BTC in 24 hours

https://archive.is/5EPbW
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When being asked upon further questions and explanations Quickseller replied me that now he wont explain anything further to me about how he assumed that those accounts were my alts cuz he thinks that I am learning from his responses. He has even blocked my PMs now.

Clearly he doesn't have anything to explain and thus cannot explain it and in this situation where QS has failed to explain his proofs further, I believe that now I don't deserve that negative trust.

This is again a case of quickseller rushing toward making bad decisions and destroying other's account. And now he is again fearful of being wrong again and hence my PMs have been blocked.
I am not wrong. Stop talking to yourself with your alts on here, it is very annoying. IMO it is pretty clear that you are trying to make it appear as if your alts are not actually controlled by you.
I swear to god or whomsoever you want, I've not accessed even a single alt account after you made this post.

Please start showing proofs rather than trying to divert the topic. You know your proofs cannot show that  I "created and scammed" with the accounts I bought for reselling, you are making false assumptions based on the facts that I myself clearly told you. You don't even have explanations.
It would be good if you apologize for your wrong accusation and then we can browse the forum peacefully.
My proof is in the OP. If you don't understand how my proof connections your two accounts then feel free to open a thread asking for an explanation. The connection is solid
sr. member
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When being asked upon further questions and explanations Quickseller replied me that now he wont explain anything further to me about how he assumed that those accounts were my alts cuz he thinks that I am learning from his responses. He has even blocked my PMs now.

Clearly he doesn't have anything to explain and thus cannot explain it and in this situation where QS has failed to explain his proofs further, I believe that now I don't deserve that negative trust.

This is again a case of quickseller rushing toward making bad decisions and destroying other's account. And now he is again fearful of being wrong again and hence my PMs have been blocked.
I am not wrong. Stop talking to yourself with your alts on here, it is very annoying. IMO it is pretty clear that you are trying to make it appear as if your alts are not actually controlled by you.
I swear to god or whomsoever you want, I've not accessed even a single alt account after you made this post.

Please start showing proofs rather than trying to divert the topic. You know your proofs cannot show that  I "created and scammed" with the accounts I bought for reselling, you are making false assumptions based on the facts that I myself clearly told you. You don't even have explanations.
It would be good if you apologize for your wrong accusation and then we can browse the forum peacefully.
copper member
Activity: 2926
Merit: 2348
When being asked upon further questions and explanations Quickseller replied me that now he wont explain anything further to me about how he assumed that those accounts were my alts cuz he thinks that I am learning from his responses. He has even blocked my PMs now.

Clearly he doesn't have anything to explain and thus cannot explain it and in this situation where QS has failed to explain his proofs further, I believe that now I don't deserve that negative trust.

This is again a case of quickseller rushing toward making bad decisions and destroying other's account. And now he is again fearful of being wrong again and hence my PMs have been blocked.
I am not wrong. Stop talking to yourself with your alts on here, it is very annoying. IMO it is pretty clear that you are trying to make it appear as if your alts are not actually controlled by you.
sr. member
Activity: 280
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When being asked upon further questions and explanations Quickseller replied me that now he wont explain anything further to me about how he assumed that those accounts were my alts cuz he thinks that I am learning from his responses. He has even blocked my PMs now.

Clearly he doesn't have anything to explain and thus cannot explain it and in this situation where QS has failed to explain his proofs further, I believe that now I don't deserve that negative trust.

This is again a case of quickseller rushing toward making bad decisions and destroying other's account. And now he is again fearful of being wrong again and hence my PMs have been blocked.
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Found that post over here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-did-quickseller-add-this-negative-trust-without-any-reason-1053201

If you want me something else to provide as a proof, I will do, just ask me.
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there are many proven alts of puzzle.me like cryptocause  the guy who has positive feedback even after he was proven as alt of puzzle.me
he has a clean account with positive feedback so he can scam anyone with his positive trust

quickseller already posted proofs about him, relation between puzzle.me and cryptocause
there are 2-3 more alts of him

I ain't Puzzel.me's alt. If you can check that meta post you will find that I posted over there only that its thebitcoinquiz.com who is his alt not me but I didn't have any proofs at that time. I contacted MZ in PM and showed him a few proofs but later I thought it isn't worth, you can ask MZ about this.
I knew that thebitcoinquiz was holding this account when I got accused of being puzzel's alt which am not.
Idk who the actual person behind puzzel.me is but earlier I had some troubles with this guy and he intentionally posted my address to destroy my account, and so now as it has been proven the thebitcoinquiz.com is puzzel.me so it proves that I am innocent and the negative rating should be taken off my profile.

QS now u know thebitcoinquiz.com is real puzzel.me so please remove my neg trust. Also if you think am an alt of thebitcoinquiz.com  Angry , then why would I have stated that thebitcoinquiz is puzzel's alt in my Meta post, why would I destroy a close to Sr. Member account seeing one of my account already destroyed? This will be dumb and am not dumb.


And if you still think am his alt then show that am his alt, show that any of my transaction is linked with him (signed by both of us) or provide a solid proof that am him, If you do this I will suck you Dick  Tongue
I am not an alt, I am original Cryptoforcause
hero member
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there are many proven alts of puzzle.me like cryptocause  the guy who has positive feedback even after he was proven as alt of puzzle.me
he has a clean account with positive feedback so he can scam anyone with his positive trust

quickseller already posted proofs about him, relation between puzzle.me and cryptocause
there are 2-3 more alts of him
sr. member
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You are really butt hurt when you tried to frame ndnhc but you failed now you are looking for some other fish so that you can satisfy your ego and gain back your faith amongst the people. This line is clearly a proof of this - "This is one that I am not wrong about.".

You are trying anything and everything to accuse me. You even said that my account got sold and said that you read it somewhere, and you also said that my address is linked with the address which was used to scam jhonny, but when asked upon to show the proof to show that my account is sold, you failed to provide any proof for it.
Clearly you are saying anything and everything and are saying things that don't even have any substance.

Accusing me for a part for which you have some evidence is still fine(although the truth is different from your proofs), but being a dick and accusing me of things for which u don't have a single proof(my account is sold) is insane.
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Jus a simple question, does buying negative trusted account and then using them for signature ads and reselling is something against the forum?? I don't think so, and in short that's what I did. I personally do respect each and every member out here and respect their opinions, but really am I being punished for buying negatively trusted accounts? Wow, I really feel these proofs aren't watertight and I just think after qs's few claims went wrong now quickseller is doing all this just to gain name/fame on the forum by pushing down people and making assumptions based on incomplete proofs.
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No that is not against any rule however the evidence shows that is most likely something that did not happen. As I mentioned previously addresses were posted that connected you with puzzle.me both before and after BadBear outed his alts. If the addresses were only posted after his alts were outed then it would be understandable/believable that you purchased all the accounts from him but this isn't what happened.

There is also the issue that there is zero evidence that the account was purchased (you just so happened to delete the PM's).

Then to top it off there is the issue that puzzle.me created a thread whose title matches your name on his first post.  

Edit: to add further suspicion, the posts that both you and several of your alts have created were edited with the addresses removed to make it more difficult to track your alts.
the alts had already got negative trust from others one month before badbear's rating came, and I bought the accounts after those trust rating and I didn't buy em all at the same time. Deals for them were made at different times.
And so hence, badbear's rating doesn't add up to timeline and so is invaluable to the present timeline.
All the other proofs are based on your certain assumptions and suppositions, and they aren't substantial enough to prove that I am wrong.

Stop making further stories. You personally also know that now you can't help yourself so stop wasting your time. Nice find Quickseller. Thankyou Tomatocage for leaving a neg. feedback.
Who the fuck are you to stop me from telling my reason? I am just telling you what I've been speaking since the beginning.
Go spam you fake ass scam/paid signature somewhere else.
sr. member
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Jus a simple question, does buying negative trusted account and then using them for signature ads and reselling is something against the forum?? I don't think so, and in short that's what I did. I personally do respect each and every member out here and respect their opinions, but really am I being punished for buying negatively trusted accounts? Wow, I really feel these proofs aren't watertight and I just think after qs's few claims went wrong now quickseller is doing all this just to gain name/fame on the forum by pushing down people and making assumptions based on incomplete proofs.
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No that is not against any rule however the evidence shows that is most likely something that did not happen. As I mentioned previously addresses were posted that connected you with puzzle.me both before and after BadBear outed his alts. If the addresses were only posted after his alts were outed then it would be understandable/believable that you purchased all the accounts from him but this isn't what happened.

There is also the issue that there is zero evidence that the account was purchased (you just so happened to delete the PM's).

Then to top it off there is the issue that puzzle.me created a thread whose title matches your name on his first post.  

Edit: to add further suspicion, the posts that both you and several of your alts have created were edited with the addresses removed to make it more difficult to track your alts.
the alts had already got negative trust from others one month before badbear's rating came, and I bought the accounts after those trust rating and I didn't buy em all at the same time. Deals for them were made at different times.
And so hence, badbear's rating doesn't add up to timeline and so is invaluable to the present timeline.
All the other proofs are based on your certain assumptions and suppositions, and they aren't substantial enough to prove that I am wrong.

Stop making further stories. You personally also know that now you can't help yourself so stop wasting your time. Nice find Quickseller. Thankyou Tomatocage for leaving a neg. feedback.
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