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legendary
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April 17, 2024, 12:45:50 PM
#59
It is very sad to understand that people use the forum as a golden antelope, from which it is necessary to pump out as much as can be pumped without paying any attention to any qualities of human morality.
You have captured the sentiment aptly. For some of the members here in the forum, it seems clear there are no limits to their depravity (and displaying any qualities of human morality would be the furthest thing from their mind as they try to get merits in their quest to join campaigns and add to their farmed accounts).

I also noticed this post, which screams about the hypocrisy of people who do not take something to heart but only want personal gain.
And again... I went through all the participants in the Bitcoin Node competition, but I’m not even surprised that almost all the brethren of the country which love to bake pizza and skillfully carve pumpkins gathered there. I won’t name this location, but most likely there will always be plenty of merit hunters there.
And yes, in May there will be a pizza competition again. I think we will see more than one new alternative “talented” account. Roll Eyes
People would have thought it does some skill to carve pumpkins and bake pizzas but some members here have displayed unbelievable talent.

The pizza competition as well as the other events have been abused on multiple occasions. If I am able to I will keep an eye on those threads and if necessary will give relevant tags but that is another issue for another day. As for the current, I am glad the Elissa~sH was caught out.
legendary
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April 17, 2024, 06:24:25 AM
#58
The disgusting gutter level lows that some people will go in order to seek merits has never surprised me but watching two accounts that were relative newbies at the time creating absolutely unnecessary threads about forum members (one deceased and one dying), was an eye opener. I find their behaviour repulsive.

One of those threads was created by the Elissa~sH account and I posted my disappointment on 10th March 2024:  o_e_l_e_o Such a life you will build/Laugh at death You will cry.

I do not believe this is a case of a single alt-account, The Elissa~sH account displayed key components of behaviour that showed with reasonable it is part of an account farming business.

It is very sad to understand that people use the forum as a golden antelope, from which it is necessary to pump out as much as can be pumped without paying any attention to any qualities of human morality.
I also noticed this post, which screams about the hypocrisy of people who do not take something to heart but only want personal gain.
And again... I went through all the participants in the Bitcoin Node competition, but I’m not even surprised that almost all the brethren of the country which love to bake pizza and skillfully carve pumpkins gathered there. I won’t name this location, but most likely there will always be plenty of merit hunters there.
And yes, in May there will be a pizza competition again. I think we will see more than one new alternative “talented” account. Roll Eyes
legendary
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April 17, 2024, 06:22:18 AM
#57
My personal suggestion, I guess someone who earn 1K merits can participate too because there's no shame for high ranked user to learn technical thing from the basic.

That is already possible, you just can't earn merit after you're done.
legendary
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April 17, 2024, 05:47:56 AM
#56
The disgusting gutter level lows that some people will go in order to seek merits has never surprised me but watching two accounts that were relative newbies at the time creating absolutely unnecessary threads about forum members (one deceased and one dying), was an eye opener. I find their behaviour repulsive.

One of those threads was created by the Elissa~sH account and I posted my disappointment on 10th March 2024:  o_e_l_e_o Such a life you will build/Laugh at death You will cry.

I do not believe this is a case of a single alt-account, The Elissa~sH account displayed key components of behaviour that showed with reasonable it is part of an account farming business.
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April 17, 2024, 02:26:32 AM
#55
Or is it not a fan? Keep saying that you are not you.
LOL. Caught red-handed.

Looks like the hunter got hunted instead, lol 🤡. That's why OP shouldn't have accused anyone of anything abusive when he was not even honest to himself. His unnecessary attention caused his own downfall.

I might also start requiring a certain amount of activity in order to participate, but I haven't decided by how much yet.

Well you should! Your thread reached over 80 pages. Limiting merits only won't just cut it now. Also It's too easy for a farmer to farm merits. On the other hand, I think having 6 months worth of activity should be a must. So newly created farming accounts won't be able to participate without genuinely becoming an active user. Some might oppose newbies should be given rooms for growth but there are other threads/ways for that (My perspective).

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legendary
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April 15, 2024, 10:59:52 AM
#54

I might also start requiring a certain amount of activity in order to participate, but I haven't decided by how much yet.

Yes, it looks like people are taking advantage of your kindness. The latest posts from newcomers strangely coincide with their same registration date. This could be a good way to grow farming accounts.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kfcfane-3618615     March 23, 2024, 12:47:06 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63946392

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dto-3618628   March 23, 2024, 02:03:56 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63947039

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zerato-3618660 March 23, 2024, 06:05:21 PM  already worked
hero member
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April 15, 2024, 02:33:02 AM
#53
Or is it not a fan? Keep saying that you are not you.

LOL. Caught red-handed.

I might also start requiring a certain amount of activity in order to participate, but I haven't decided by how much yet.
Probably people with at least 50 earned merits? Or if you want to make it a little more harder, then allow only full member rank and above. Still, people will abuse it as long as they have a chance to get some free merits. Someone might have more than one full member account who will participate in such events.
hero member
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April 15, 2024, 12:47:12 AM
#52
Thank you for catching this. Now I have added a negative tag to both profiles, which I think should deter most account farms from cheating in the future (you can't get into most bounties if you have a negative feedback from DT1).
Nice to see that, case closed. Wink

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I might also start requiring a certain amount of activity in order to participate, but I haven't decided by how much yet.
Only activity? I would say it's better to have certain amount of merit too. Probably 30-50 merits because someone can earn 10 merits easily by begging i.e. earn 1 merit and then post an application on rank up thread.

My personal suggestion, I guess someone who earn 1K merits can participate too because there's no shame for high ranked user to learn technical thing from the basic.
legendary
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April 15, 2024, 12:29:55 AM
#51
I'm surprised no one didn't pay attention with users who merited @OP.

@OP username Elissa~sH
User who gave largest merit in this thread Unas~True

Is this really a coincidence? Roll Eyes

Let's dig deeper, Unas~True created an account since January 26, 2024, he didn't make any post. Two months later he suddenly participate in Merit giveaway thread.

After he got 14 merits, he didn't even merit any post in Beginners & Help section (it's the board he posted in this forum, which mean he's familiar on this board to other board), but he choose to visit Reputation board and give 6 merits to this thread. Roll Eyes

There's a rule that forbid alt accounts usage, can I say @OP deserve to get negative feedback?

Edit:
Elissa~sH last submission
Unas~True last submission

  • Do not enroll alt accounts.

Thank you for catching this. Now I have added a negative tag to both profiles, which I think should deter most account farms from cheating in the future (you can't get into most bounties if you have a negative feedback from DT1).

I might also start requiring a certain amount of activity in order to participate, but I haven't decided by how much yet.
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April 14, 2024, 06:11:31 PM
#50
I am more surprised that my post is about merit abuse, but my post is getting merit like this. I am shocked.Roll Eyes
So on realizing that DT members don't tag merit abusers, you decided to take it upon yourself to abuse the merit system yourself?

What a liar and hypocrite. You actually deserve a tag since you are dishonest!


Yeah. What a strange coincidence. Look at the screenshot. Marvelous. Do you probably have a fan who opens your profile day and night?
Or is it not a fan? Keep saying that you are not you.

Well Well Well. This is interesting.
legendary
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April 14, 2024, 01:10:10 PM
#49
No, no, buddy, you are in vain trying to separate yourself from this group. Your history of merit has a lot to do with those who participate in the competition. Such coincidences do not happen, just believe me. I simply have no other connections, so sleep well for now.
Believe me buddy, I don't know who they are.


Yeah. What a strange coincidence. Look at the screenshot. Marvelous. Do you probably have a fan who opens your profile day and night?
Or is it not a fan? Keep saying that you are not you.
Day 05:

hero member
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April 14, 2024, 09:38:07 AM
#48
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This is not how it works. Don't tell me you are roksana.hee, an SEO expert from our local thread has ruined their account lately using AI shit and plagiarism. Now you are trying to butter yahoo and lovesmayfamilis so they don't talk against you. I guess it's pretty clear who is who even though there is not enough proof to prove it. I wonder how many people abused NotATether's challenge thread to earn merits, especially by our locals. I don't feel good anymore to tell people that I am from that local thread because most of the people have a negative impression of our local board. I feel like you are telling god to give you another chance and you won't repeat the mistake. I hope God hears you. Stop responding to every post and go forward.
member
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April 14, 2024, 04:49:35 AM
#47
No, no, buddy, you are in vain trying to separate yourself from this group. Your history of merit has a lot to do with those who participate in the competition. Such coincidences do not happen, just believe me. I simply have no other connections, so sleep well for now.
Believe me buddy, I don't know who they are. I have no desire to obtain merit illegally. If I can get merit by showing my merit, then I will do it, and I have no desire to get merit.
I am a small person, and I am learning by following you. I can't tell you how much time I spent. I am an SEO expert, but I know well from good ideas about the forums. You are my guide on this journey.

Trust me, Buddy, I'm not trying to tell any lies. Someone is trying to put me in danger. I have no account except one in this forum. I am here to learn knowledge. You will see my posts where I talk about what I know or try to help.

Congrats, you have now put yourself on the radar. I am not sure why folks make a post here and think that it will not draw attention to themselves? The community has seen nearly every trick in the book by now, most of us have been here 7-10 years.
Yes, you have been here for 7–10 years. You are great people, and I always respect you. I want to move forward by following you. We can only move forward without your help. See my posts as i slowly learn and try to post sensibly.
legendary
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April 14, 2024, 04:37:12 AM
#46
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It is a complete abuse of merit. But even though you have posted it here for a long time, no action has been seen from DT members against it so far.
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I recall theymos discourage giving trust feedback for merit abuse, so don't expect DT will take action. Although i expect those abuser would be ignored by some members, which means they will receive less merit from them.
legendary
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April 14, 2024, 03:57:10 AM
#45

I am also surprised that a new member has given me many merits. Why did he give so much merit to my account? They don't understand anything new but must also know why they gave me this merit. Their accounts need to be monitored.

I am more surprised that my post is about merit abuse, but my post is getting merit like this. I am shocked.Roll Eyes
Congrats, you have now put yourself on the radar. I am not sure why folks make a post here and think that it will not draw attention to themselves? The community has seen nearly every trick in the book by now, most of us have been here 7-10 years.



No, no, buddy, you are in vain trying to separate yourself from this group. Your history of merit has a lot to do with those who participate in the competition. Such coincidences do not happen, just believe me. I simply have no other connections, so sleep well for now.
Love the last line, sleep well for now lol.
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April 14, 2024, 03:44:20 AM
#44
You can also see how the Elissa~sH account receives merit from those who recently participated in the NotATether competition and received 14 merits from it. Quite a strange interest of newcomers who come to this topic with thanks to Elissa~sH, isn't it?
I wrote a post yesterday to get such merit; I decided to do it today, but it is better to talk about it than to those who have given me so many merits. They are new and have yet to post in any other thread. Their accounts should be looked into.

Is this really a coincidence? Roll Eyes

Let's dig deeper, Unas~True created an account since January 26, 2024, he didn't make any post. Two months later he suddenly participate in Merit giveaway thread.

After he got 14 merits, he didn't even merit any post in Beginners & Help section (it's the board he posted in this forum, which mean he's familiar on this board to other board), but he choose to visit Reputation board and give 6 merits to this thread. Roll Eyes

I am also surprised that a new member has given me many merits. Why did he give so much merit to my account? They don't understand anything new but must also know why they gave me this merit. Their accounts need to be monitored.

I am more surprised that my post is about merit abuse, but my post is getting merit like this. I am shocked.Roll Eyes

No, no, buddy, you are in vain trying to separate yourself from this group. Your history of merit has a lot to do with those who participate in the competition. Such coincidences do not happen, just believe me. I simply have no other connections, so sleep well for now.
member
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April 14, 2024, 03:36:43 AM
#43
You can also see how the Elissa~sH account receives merit from those who recently participated in the NotATether competition and received 14 merits from it. Quite a strange interest of newcomers who come to this topic with thanks to Elissa~sH, isn't it?
I wrote a post yesterday to get such merit; I decided to do it today, but it is better to talk about it than to those who have given me so many merits. They are new and have yet to post in any other thread. Their accounts should be looked into.

Is this really a coincidence? Roll Eyes

Let's dig deeper, Unas~True created an account since January 26, 2024, he didn't make any post. Two months later he suddenly participate in Merit giveaway thread.

After he got 14 merits, he didn't even merit any post in Beginners & Help section (it's the board he posted in this forum, which mean he's familiar on this board to other board), but he choose to visit Reputation board and give 6 merits to this thread. Roll Eyes

I am also surprised that a new member has given me many merits. Why did he give so much merit to my account? They don't understand anything new but must also know why they gave me this merit. Their accounts need to be monitored.

I am more surprised that my post is about merit abuse, but my post is getting merit like this. I am shocked.Roll Eyes
hero member
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April 14, 2024, 03:05:34 AM
#42
I'm surprised no one didn't pay attention with users who merited @OP.

@OP username Elissa~sH
User who gave largest merit in this thread Unas~True

Is this really a coincidence? Roll Eyes

Let's dig deeper, Unas~True created an account since January 26, 2024, he didn't make any post. Two months later he suddenly participate in Merit giveaway thread.

After he got 14 merits, he didn't even merit any post in Beginners & Help section (it's the board he posted in this forum, which mean he's familiar on this board to other board), but he choose to visit Reputation board and give 6 merits to this thread. Roll Eyes

There's a rule that forbid alt accounts usage, can I say @OP deserve to get negative feedback?

Edit:
Elissa~sH last submission
Unas~True last submission

  • Do not enroll alt accounts.

You can also see how the Elissa~sH account receives merit from those who recently participated in the NotATether competition and received 14 merits from it. Quite a strange interest of newcomers who come to this topic with thanks to Elissa~sH, isn't it?
Oh man, you're faster than me!
legendary
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April 14, 2024, 01:12:14 AM
#41

It is a complete abuse of merit.

If you don’t see a single tag from DT, it doesn’t mean that people don’t see what’s happening with these accounts. In addition, there is no rule to flag accounts for forwarding merits, at least without concrete evidence of their alternatives. Don't just think about participating in signature companies, perhaps some people do not understand the value of merit, and transferring it in such quantity was not something important for the sender.
At least as long as these accounts are not active, there is no need to tag them or worry at all.

Although in your case, receiving 2 merits from a user who also rarely writes on the forum other than offering himself to participate in a signature looks almost the same.
But yes, not the same scale. Grin



You can also see how the Elissa~sH account receives merit from those who recently participated in the NotATether competition and received 14 merits from it. Quite a strange interest of newcomers who come to this topic with thanks to Elissa~sH, isn't it?
Only a blind person would not notice the transfer of merit between alternatives that have become very cunning.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=3605965
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=112675
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=3613705
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=117429

As The Sceptical Chymist says, any reward on the forum will be abused.
hero member
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April 13, 2024, 09:29:49 PM
#40
Icefrag merit sent by hashuna

I saw LoyceV bro post this from Merit earn from there. I gave an ID check, and from there, I saw how Merit got 50. I saw that a low-quality post was given 50 merit points. The account that gave the merit last posted on August 6, 2018, at 01:25:54 PM, then did not post again and became active on January 25, 2024, at 12:14:41 AM. The account post looks like it's a purchased account. The account has changed hands.
My question is, how do I give 50 merit in this simple post? Merit is given to those who post good quality standards, but it is seen that merit is being misused. Merits are being offered to random posts that need to be noted. They are trying to grow new accounts using multiple accounts.

It is a complete abuse of merit. But even though you have posted it here for a long time, no action has been seen from DT members against it so far. Many have discussed here but no tag has been given for such abuse. 50 merit per 1 transaction on a Newbie account means the same person is managing both accounts. And now many signature campaign slots are seen empty for Full Member so it can be a plan to get full member rank quickly and join signature campaign. Another funny thing was that the Merited post was the last post from that account and since then that account has become inactive.  But here also the link between these two accounts is found that both accounts are inactive then the question is if these two accounts are not managed by the same owner then how can their activity be the same
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