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Quote from: JollyGood on October 29, 2024, 03:29:37 PM

Others will no doubt make up their mind and come to their own conclusions but what cannot be denied is most newbies to a crypto forum post in crypto related threads not cricket nor football. Why did you not ask anything about crypto or specifically Bitcoin rather than build your post count by posting in football and cricket threads?

Quote from: BabyBird on October 29, 2024, 01:18:13 PM

I am a new user my first journey started on September 18, 2024. I am trying to learn and work from this forum. As far as I know good quality posts and forums have to work otherwise no merit can be earned. If there is any mistake in my post please help me with correct answer. I request your help on which page and what type of post will I be able to qualify. please tell me🙇

I am wrong please give me basic understanding about Bitcoin now so that I can work well.

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Others will no doubt make up their mind and come to their own conclusions but what cannot be denied is most newbies to a crypto forum post in crypto related threads not cricket nor football. Why did you not ask anything about crypto or specifically Bitcoin rather than build your post count by posting in football and cricket threads?

Quote from: BabyBird on October 29, 2024, 01:18:13 PM

I am a new user my first journey started on September 18, 2024. I am trying to learn and work from this forum. As far as I know good quality posts and forums have to work otherwise no merit can be earned. If there is any mistake in my post please help me with correct answer. I request your help on which page and what type of post will I be able to qualify. please tell me🙇

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Quote from: JollyGood on October 29, 2024, 06:46:47 AM

After one glance at your profile and post history, there are signs of it being an alt-account primarily because you know more about the forum than one month old newbies usually do.

You created your account created in September 2024 (last month) but instead of asking about crypto you used it to post immediately in cricket threads to what seems to be an attempt to build post count. After other posts in what are patterns synonymous with alt-account/farm accounts you posted in competitions and now you have now posted in the Reputation board digging up this old thread.

You have just bumped up an old thread for no real reason but in the process you have now caught the attention of other members including myself. How many accounts do you have here?

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Quote from: Elissa~sH on February 25, 2024, 01:29:01 AM

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I saw LoyceV bro post this from Merit earn from there. I gave an ID check, and from there, I saw how Merit got 50. I saw that a low-quality post was given 50 merit points. The account that gave the merit last posted on August 6, 2018, at 01:25:54 PM, then did not post again and became active on January 25, 2024, at 12:14:41 AM. The account post looks like it's a purchased account. The account has changed hands.
My question is, how do I give 50 merit in this simple post? Merit is given to those who post good quality standards, but it is seen that merit is being misused. Merits are being offered to random posts that need to be noted. They are trying to grow new accounts using multiple accounts.

Really, it's sad that a good quality post has done nothing to improve the form, giving a post 50 merits for no reason. It's really bad. I think regular forums should give merit to those who work hard and post quality and stay active.

I am a new user my first journey started on September 18, 2024. I am trying to learn and work from this forum. As far as I know good quality posts and forums have to work otherwise no merit can be earned. If there is any mistake in my post please help me with correct answer. I request your help on which page and what type of post will I be able to qualify. please tell me🙇

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After one glance at your profile and post history, there are signs of it being an alt-account primarily because you know more about the forum than one month old newbies usually do.

You created your account created in September 2024 (last month) but instead of asking about crypto you used it to post immediately in cricket threads to what seems to be an attempt to build post count. After other posts in what are patterns synonymous with alt-account/farm accounts you posted in competitions and now you have now posted in the Reputation board digging up this old thread.

You have just bumped up an old thread for no real reason but in the process you have now caught the attention of other members including myself. How many accounts do you have here?

Quote from: BabyBird on October 29, 2024, 04:10:15 AM

Quote from: Elissa~sH on February 25, 2024, 01:29:01 AM

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I saw LoyceV bro post this from Merit earn from there. I gave an ID check, and from there, I saw how Merit got 50. I saw that a low-quality post was given 50 merit points. The account that gave the merit last posted on August 6, 2018, at 01:25:54 PM, then did not post again and became active on January 25, 2024, at 12:14:41 AM. The account post looks like it's a purchased account. The account has changed hands.
My question is, how do I give 50 merit in this simple post? Merit is given to those who post good quality standards, but it is seen that merit is being misused. Merits are being offered to random posts that need to be noted. They are trying to grow new accounts using multiple accounts.

Really, it's sad that a good quality post has done nothing to improve the form, giving a post 50 merits for no reason. It's really bad. I think regular forums should give merit to those who work hard and post quality and stay active.

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Quote from: Elissa~sH on February 25, 2024, 01:29:01 AM

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I saw LoyceV bro post this from Merit earn from there. I gave an ID check, and from there, I saw how Merit got 50. I saw that a low-quality post was given 50 merit points. The account that gave the merit last posted on August 6, 2018, at 01:25:54 PM, then did not post again and became active on January 25, 2024, at 12:14:41 AM. The account post looks like it's a purchased account. The account has changed hands.
My question is, how do I give 50 merit in this simple post? Merit is given to those who post good quality standards, but it is seen that merit is being misused. Merits are being offered to random posts that need to be noted. They are trying to grow new accounts using multiple accounts.

Really, it's sad that a good quality post has done nothing to improve the form, giving a post 50 merits for no reason. It's really bad. I think regular forums should give merit to those who work hard and post quality and stay active.

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My worthless shitty opinion is that abuse of merit doesn't exist! Only a merit-source can abuse it (Because they have a very very small boring responsibility). "normal users" can use their merits exactly how they want! What's the problem? Is merit so important? Really? Come on. It's a life outside this hole to. And if I want to give 5000 merits to a post that only says "I am ugly" I can do that and it's not any merit abuse, it's my merits and no one have a penny to say what I should or doing with them, same as I don't have anything to say what others do with their merits. Stop hijack how to use merits. A quality post is a opinion not fact.
Also merit is just a fiction it doesn't exist, I don't understand why people is so horny about them? To get into a signature campaign to earn some bucks? Come on.. Grin

Cheers. / BabyB

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Whenever a newbie comes along and almost immediately starts posting in a manner to arouse suspicion they are an alt-account or part of an account farm, they should not be given the benefit of the doubt as they almost always have ulterior motives.

The OP managed to get 25 merits for creating this thread on 25th February 2024 but by the time 15th April 2024 arrived, it was his last login because he knew the game was up and the first of the negative tags were placed. Quite clearly, the OP is now concentrating on the accounts in their farm as he has given up on the Elissa~sH account.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on April 14, 2024, 12:12:14 AM

You can also see how the Elissa~sH account receives merit from those who recently participated in the NotATether competition and received 14 merits from it. Quite a strange interest of newcomers who come to this topic with thanks to Elissa~sH, isn't it?
Only a blind person would not notice the transfer of merit between alternatives that have become very cunning.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=3605965
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=112675
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=3613705
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=117429

As The Sceptical Chymist says, any reward on the forum will be abused.

I also found something similar sir, can you make their account orange? You can be sure they are the same person.

mulyadi227 account:
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/muliyadi227-1335592
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Try focusing on one of Pandorak names on April 5 2024
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=3571729
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1335592
Pandora Account:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pandorak-3530840

Muliyadi227 Account Get results from the @NotATether challenge on April 22, 2024, 13:33:19 with 14 benefits. The day after April 23, 2024, 10:28:48 sent 8 benefits to Pandorak account.

Here I also saw Xiaomie A1 found a lot of abuse of achievement awards. I've given it a negative. Is the orange color visible to you or not? If you don't see orange, please color orange on their account.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on April 17, 2024, 05:24:25 AM

It is very sad to understand that people use the forum as a golden antelope, from which it is necessary to pump out as much as can be pumped without paying any attention to any qualities of human morality.

You have captured the sentiment aptly. For some of the members here in the forum, it seems clear there are no limits to their depravity (and displaying any qualities of human morality would be the furthest thing from their mind as they try to get merits in their quest to join campaigns and add to their farmed accounts).

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on April 17, 2024, 05:24:25 AM

I also noticed this post, which screams about the hypocrisy of people who do not take something to heart but only want personal gain.
And again... I went through all the participants in the Bitcoin Node competition, but I’m not even surprised that almost all the brethren of the country which love to bake pizza and skillfully carve pumpkins gathered there. I won’t name this location, but most likely there will always be plenty of merit hunters there.
And yes, in May there will be a pizza competition again. I think we will see more than one new alternative “talented” account. Roll Eyes

People would have thought it does some skill to carve pumpkins and bake pizzas but some members here have displayed unbelievable talent.

The pizza competition as well as the other events have been abused on multiple occasions. If I am able to I will keep an eye on those threads and if necessary will give relevant tags but that is another issue for another day. As for the current, I am glad the Elissa~sH was caught out.

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Quote from: JollyGood on April 17, 2024, 04:47:56 AM

The disgusting gutter level lows that some people will go in order to seek merits has never surprised me but watching two accounts that were relative newbies at the time creating absolutely unnecessary threads about forum members (one deceased and one dying), was an eye opener. I find their behaviour repulsive.

One of those threads was created by the Elissa~sH account and I posted my disappointment on 10th March 2024: o_e_l_e_o Such a life you will build/Laugh at death You will cry.

I do not believe this is a case of a single alt-account, The Elissa~sH account displayed key components of behaviour that showed with reasonable it is part of an account farming business.

It is very sad to understand that people use the forum as a golden antelope, from which it is necessary to pump out as much as can be pumped without paying any attention to any qualities of human morality.
I also noticed this post, which screams about the hypocrisy of people who do not take something to heart but only want personal gain.
And again... I went through all the participants in the Bitcoin Node competition, but I’m not even surprised that almost all the brethren of the country which love to bake pizza and skillfully carve pumpkins gathered there. I won’t name this location, but most likely there will always be plenty of merit hunters there.
And yes, in May there will be a pizza competition again. I think we will see more than one new alternative “talented” account. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Apocollapse on April 14, 2024, 11:47:12 PM

My personal suggestion, I guess someone who earn 1K merits can participate too because there's no shame for high ranked user to learn technical thing from the basic.

That is already possible, you just can't earn merit after you're done.

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The disgusting gutter level lows that some people will go in order to seek merits has never surprised me but watching two accounts that were relative newbies at the time creating absolutely unnecessary threads about forum members (one deceased and one dying), was an eye opener. I find their behaviour repulsive.

One of those threads was created by the Elissa~sH account and I posted my disappointment on 10th March 2024: o_e_l_e_o Such a life you will build/Laugh at death You will cry.

I do not believe this is a case of a single alt-account, The Elissa~sH account displayed key components of behaviour that showed with reasonable it is part of an account farming business.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on April 14, 2024, 12:10:10 PM

Or is it not a fan? Keep saying that you are not you.

LOL. Caught red-handed.

Looks like the hunter got hunted instead, lol 🤡. That's why OP shouldn't have accused anyone of anything abusive when he was not even honest to himself. His unnecessary attention caused his own downfall.

Quote from: NotATether on April 14, 2024, 11:29:55 PM

I might also start requiring a certain amount of activity in order to participate, but I haven't decided by how much yet.

Well you should! Your thread reached over 80 pages. Limiting merits only won't just cut it now. Also It's too easy for a farmer to farm merits. On the other hand, I think having 6 months worth of activity should be a must. So newly created farming accounts won't be able to participate without genuinely becoming an active user. Some might oppose newbies should be given rooms for growth but there are other threads/ways for that (My perspective).

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Quote from: NotATether on April 14, 2024, 11:29:55 PM

I might also start requiring a certain amount of activity in order to participate, but I haven't decided by how much yet.

Yes, it looks like people are taking advantage of your kindness. The latest posts from newcomers strangely coincide with their same registration date. This could be a good way to grow farming accounts.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kfcfane-3618615 March 23, 2024, 12:47:06 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63946392

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dto-3618628 March 23, 2024, 02:03:56 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63947039

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zerato-3618660 March 23, 2024, 06:05:21 PM already worked

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on April 14, 2024, 12:10:10 PM

Or is it not a fan? Keep saying that you are not you.

LOL. Caught red-handed.

Quote from: NotATether on April 14, 2024, 11:29:55 PM

I might also start requiring a certain amount of activity in order to participate, but I haven't decided by how much yet.

Probably people with at least 50 earned merits? Or if you want to make it a little more harder, then allow only full member rank and above. Still, people will abuse it as long as they have a chance to get some free merits. Someone might have more than one full member account who will participate in such events.

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Quote from: NotATether on April 14, 2024, 11:29:55 PM

Thank you for catching this. Now I have added a negative tag to both profiles, which I think should deter most account farms from cheating in the future (you can't get into most bounties if you have a negative feedback from DT1).

Nice to see that, case closed. Wink

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I might also start requiring a certain amount of activity in order to participate, but I haven't decided by how much yet.

Only activity? I would say it's better to have certain amount of merit too. Probably 30-50 merits because someone can earn 10 merits easily by begging i.e. earn 1 merit and then post an application on rank up thread.

My personal suggestion, I guess someone who earn 1K merits can participate too because there's no shame for high ranked user to learn technical thing from the basic.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on April 14, 2024, 02:05:34 AM

I'm surprised no one didn't pay attention with users who merited @OP.

@OP username Elissa~sH
User who gave largest merit in this thread Unas~True

Is this really a coincidence? Roll Eyes

Let's dig deeper, Unas~True created an account since January 26, 2024, he didn't make any post. Two months later he suddenly participate in Merit giveaway thread.

After he got 14 merits, he didn't even merit any post in Beginners & Help section (it's the board he posted in this forum, which mean he's familiar on this board to other board), but he choose to visit Reputation board and give 6 merits to this thread. Roll Eyes

There's a rule that forbid alt accounts usage, can I say @OP deserve to get negative feedback?

Edit:
Elissa~sH last submission
Unas~True last submission

Quote from: NotATether on January 03, 2024, 01:19:15 AM

Do not enroll alt accounts.

Thank you for catching this. Now I have added a negative tag to both profiles, which I think should deter most account farms from cheating in the future (you can't get into most bounties if you have a negative feedback from DT1).

I might also start requiring a certain amount of activity in order to participate, but I haven't decided by how much yet.

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Quote from: Elissa~sH on April 14, 2024, 02:36:43 AM

I am more surprised that my post is about merit abuse, but my post is getting merit like this. I am shocked. Roll Eyes

So on realizing that DT members don't tag merit abusers, you decided to take it upon yourself to abuse the merit system yourself?

What a liar and hypocrite. You actually deserve a tag since you are dishonest!

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on April 14, 2024, 12:10:10 PM

Yeah. What a strange coincidence. Look at the screenshot. Marvelous. Do you probably have a fan who opens your profile day and night?
Or is it not a fan? Keep saying that you are not you.

Well Well Well. This is interesting.

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Quote from: Elissa~sH on April 14, 2024, 03:49:35 AM

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on April 14, 2024, 02:44:20 AM

No, no, buddy, you are in vain trying to separate yourself from this group. Your history of merit has a lot to do with those who participate in the competition. Such coincidences do not happen, just believe me. I simply have no other connections, so sleep well for now.

Believe me buddy, I don't know who they are.

Yeah. What a strange coincidence. Look at the screenshot. Marvelous. Do you probably have a fan who opens your profile day and night?
Or is it not a fan? Keep saying that you are not you.

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Quote from: Elissa~sH on April 14, 2024, 03:49:35 AM

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This is not how it works. Don't tell me you are roksana.hee, an SEO expert from our local thread has ruined their account lately using AI shit and plagiarism. Now you are trying to butter yahoo and lovesmayfamilis so they don't talk against you. I guess it's pretty clear who is who even though there is not enough proof to prove it. I wonder how many people abused NotATether's challenge thread to earn merits, especially by our locals. I don't feel good anymore to tell people that I am from that local thread because most of the people have a negative impression of our local board. I feel like you are telling god to give you another chance and you won't repeat the mistake. I hope God hears you. Stop responding to every post and go forward.

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