What are potential cheats supposed to do when they are watching account farmers and literally some of the lowest of the low trying to rank up using any means necessary?
For example, when action is not taken when members are blatantly using purchased accounts and are lying about participating in charity events for people (namely those that contributed in the field of cryptology) that are no longer with us and are instead being rewarded with enough merits to get to 500 and then to see those accounts get selected for the spam fest campaign that is Stake and to make 99% of their posts spamming the gambling board. It encourages others to post in similar fashion.
Regardless of the manner in which a system has been set up to function, if there is any chance of cheating/manipulating it people will try to find a way. When merit abuse occurs, members should take action as a collective in order to send out a signal to members that try to cheat.
Topic: There is an abuse of merit - page 3. (Read 1840 times)
Looks like a classic case of merit sales to me.
• User A has lots of farmed accounts and advertised merits for sale on telegram, discord or wherever else they do,
• When they get a buyer, they pick one of their accounts to send the merit through,
• They know this would have a negative impact on the receiver, but do not care much for that.
It would be a bad way to run a business if he sent 3-5 merits every 10 days. Most likely no one would notice that, but suddenly appear with 50 Merits, I do not think it is a behavior for selling merits, especially if seller is active on the forum.• User A has lots of farmed accounts and advertised merits for sale on telegram, discord or wherever else they do,
• When they get a buyer, they pick one of their accounts to send the merit through,
• They know this would have a negative impact on the receiver, but do not care much for that.
It is not the first time and it certainly will not be the last, so you should not use merits as trust feedbacks.
My question is, how do I give 50 merit in this simple post? Merit is given to those who post good quality standards, but it is seen that merit is being misused. Merits are being offered to random posts that need to be noted. They are trying to grow new accounts using multiple accounts.
Your assumption cannot be refuted, but there is no concrete evidence to say the two are connected. Maybe both are managed by the same person, he is trying to use the merit to develop other accounts. It's a bit suspicious to see this fact, Icefrag who just woke up from his sleep, suddenly throws 50 merits on a low quality post. He seemed to have received a recommendation for misuse of merit, how could someone who had just woken up from a long sleep immediately find this topic made in Announcements (Altcoins). I fully support leonair assumption, perhaps the Icefrag account was hacked or sold to someone managing the hashuna account. In my opinion, his goal is very clear, he wants to improve his low rank account by utilizing sMerit from accounts that are already in the Hero Member rank.
This is indeed merit abuse but this doesn’t mean that the account who received it will benefit on it in the future. There’s no way that account can join on signature campaign or can be trusted on loans once he/she apply.
Uh....why wouldn't that person not be able to join a campaign somewhere down the line? There have been, are, and probably will be campaigns whose managers either wouldn't find out about this or wouldn't care. As to benefiting from those 50 merits, that'll certainly speed up the ranking up process as long as hashuna keeps posting and gets enough activity. I'd be willing to bet that it would take a lot longer had he not gotten those merits, since most newbies mainly post crap.Great catch on this one, OP. Just to be clear: that post absolutely did not deserve 50 merits, and it's pretty clear the Icefrag account has changed hands. I'm going to continue to read this thread and look into Icefrag's post history if necessary to confirm what seems obvious.
Icefrag merit sent by hashuna
I saw LoyceV bro post this from Merit earn from there. I gave an ID check, and from there, I saw how Merit got 50. I saw that a low-quality post was given 50 merit points. The account that gave the merit last posted on August 6, 2018, at 01:25:54 PM, then did not post again and became active on January 25, 2024, at 12:14:41 AM. The account post looks like it's a purchased account. The account has changed hands.
My question is, how do I give 50 merit in this simple post?
That's only through inpatient merit-selling business transactions because there's no way an account with the history you posted will get 50 merits out of thin air without something involved. Even the world most silly person will understand there's something more to it.I saw LoyceV bro post this from Merit earn from there. I gave an ID check, and from there, I saw how Merit got 50. I saw that a low-quality post was given 50 merit points. The account that gave the merit last posted on August 6, 2018, at 01:25:54 PM, then did not post again and became active on January 25, 2024, at 12:14:41 AM. The account post looks like it's a purchased account. The account has changed hands.
My question is, how do I give 50 merit in this simple post?
Merit is given to those who post good quality standards, but it is seen that merit is being misused.
Yes, it is. However, it is not a must that good quality standard posts have to receive 150 or more characters.Merits are being offered to random posts that need to be noted. They are trying to grow new accounts using multiple accounts.
Maybe not. What we're seeing could only be a merit-selling transaction. 
Yes, it's a clear case of merit abuse and I think you're right the one who sent those merits might be the actual real owner or someone might have bought that account. This seems like growing a new account in a short time, but I'm not sure why would someone do that while having a high ranked account.
If we check it carefully then the account which sent those merits has Hero rank which's a good rank and such ranked member should not need to grow a new account while his real account is still not enrolled in a signature campaign.
I guess it could be case of merit purchasing, the one who sent those merits might have sold the merits and the account who got it might have bought those merits. No matter what's the real story of those merits, the thing is that it's a clear case of merit abuse.
If we check it carefully then the account which sent those merits has Hero rank which's a good rank and such ranked member should not need to grow a new account while his real account is still not enrolled in a signature campaign.
I guess it could be case of merit purchasing, the one who sent those merits might have sold the merits and the account who got it might have bought those merits. No matter what's the real story of those merits, the thing is that it's a clear case of merit abuse.
You don't need much to complain, this is pure merit abuse, it even seems that the both accounts belong to one person, even though it want to raise his alt is not abuse a merit system, some certain things is not suppose to be allowed to continue to repeating itself in this community, for this person to have done such maybe it emulate it from someone else, which is totally wrong, if these is not he/her account, both of them knows each other, we have to start now and condemn this attitude before it will turn to norms.
Brings up the question of how trustworthy is this bounty manager if they are going to engage in merit abuse? We don't know 100% if an alt sent merits to the account or if he bought them, but it does look fishy.
It looks fishy and most times I reason the part of country some people are and how they reason there. He could also send such amount of merits to the other profile without abusing it. Maybe sending fewer number of merits multiple times untill it gets to a high number.Apart from sells of merits which I don't know if it exists, other merit related issues should just concern only the merits sources and not smerit earners.
Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. Hard to say at this point, but I would at the very least keep an eye on the guy for a bit of I were a bounty hunter and make sure the projects he is involved with are legit.
Brings up the question of how trustworthy is this bounty manager if they are going to engage in merit abuse? We don't know 100% if an alt sent merits to the account or if he bought them, but it does look fishy.
It looks fishy and most times I reason the part of country some people are and how they reason there. He could also send such amount of merits to the other profile without abusing it. Maybe sending fewer number of merits multiple times untill it gets to a high number.Apart from sells of merits which I don't know if it exists, other merit related issues should just concern only the merits sources and not smerit earners.
Brings up the question of how trustworthy is this bounty manager if they are going to engage in merit abuse? We don't know 100% if an alt sent merits to the account or if he bought them, but it does look fishy.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 538
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I have come across some low-quality posts that received10 merits, while another received 20. I can't find the thread again where a member only made a three-word comment but received more than 20 merits too. So,it has been so for some members who don't know how to distribute merit, so they can just drop off their merit on any post that they think they are happy with. It may not matter to them what others think about the topic, but to them, they actually might have read something that made them smile and left them no option but to award merit.
With some facts already tabled down, something is phishy here. It seems that Icefrag is a bought account who got in contact with Hashuna and agreed to splash all his merit on Hashuna. This is obviously a merit abuse case, and both accounts have raised suspicion for themselves.
With some facts already tabled down, something is phishy here. It seems that Icefrag is a bought account who got in contact with Hashuna and agreed to splash all his merit on Hashuna. This is obviously a merit abuse case, and both accounts have raised suspicion for themselves.
Looks like a classic case of merit sales to me.
• User A has lots of farmed accounts and advertised merits for sale on telegram, discord or wherever else they do,
• When they get a buyer, they pick one of their accounts to send the merit through,
• They know this would have a negative impact on the receiver, but do not care much for that.
Good catch op. These users would eventually run out of merits to send an the system would purge them out.
• User A has lots of farmed accounts and advertised merits for sale on telegram, discord or wherever else they do,
• When they get a buyer, they pick one of their accounts to send the merit through,
• They know this would have a negative impact on the receiver, but do not care much for that.
Good catch op. These users would eventually run out of merits to send an the system would purge them out.
All this does is shine an unnecessary light on both accounts and some of us will probably keep an eye on them from time to time just to see if they make any mistake which connects either/both accounts to more accounts. Why the desperation to send 50 merits in one go in this way when it could have been handled in a different manner which could have attracted less attention.
Now both accounts have been brought to our attention.
You're right. It's a misuse of merits and both accounts are probably connected, but it's hard to prove.
Icefrag has been inactive for over five years, and all of his merits have been airdropped, so it's possible that he's part of a larger account farm. hashuna, on the other hand, is a newbie and all his posts are related to "Pyrin" announcement.
Now both accounts have been brought to our attention.
My question is, how do I give 50 merit in this simple post? Merit is given to those who post good quality standards, but it is seen that merit is being misused. Merits are being offered to random posts that need to be noted. They are trying to grow new accounts using multiple accounts.
You're right. It's a misuse of merits and both accounts are probably connected, but it's hard to prove.
Icefrag has been inactive for over five years, and all of his merits have been airdropped, so it's possible that he's part of a larger account farm. hashuna, on the other hand, is a newbie and all his posts are related to "Pyrin" announcement.
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leonair, already shown this, but base on the security log my plausible guess is :The Icefrag account was hacked or bought for the purpose of selling smerits or to be resold, which now has been use to sell smerits since the password changed occur earlier last year before going to sleep and now woke up again. I Think is the reason the Icefrag account didn't try to get into campaign or become active at least since last year.
Though also the account might be connected and is being used to make those members of this forum altcoin discussions who are still naive to think that the project is legit since Icefrag who is an hero member is still supporting the project. In the end they are trying to control naive people to invest in their scam project
Even though @Icefrag, has known this forum since 2013, and even though he has an Alt account called @hashuna registered in 2023, he should have seen the things said by @theymos, so as not to be seen.
I'm sure @hashuna is @Icefrag's Alt, because he knows and understands projects working in the crypto field, just as @Icefrag understands everything about projects working in the crypto field.
He should understand the concept said by @theymos, to avoid the chaos that occurs as in this thread, @Icefrag's behavior reflects bad activities for other members, Merit is given not on the shoulders of quality but based on individual thoughts, this is actionnot a good example.
While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.
I'm sure @hashuna is @Icefrag's Alt, because he knows and understands projects working in the crypto field, just as @Icefrag understands everything about projects working in the crypto field.
He should understand the concept said by @theymos, to avoid the chaos that occurs as in this thread, @Icefrag's behavior reflects bad activities for other members, Merit is given not on the shoulders of quality but based on individual thoughts, this is actionnot a good example.
This is indeed suspicious. The account, Icefrag just woke up and made his first order of business to send his smerits to a newbie account. My theory is that the account was sold, and the new owner probably had a deal with the seller to send the merits to @hashuna.
My question is, how do I give 50 merit in this simple post? Merit is given to those who post good quality standards, but it is seen that merit is being misused. Merits are being offered to random posts that need to be noted. They are trying to grow new accounts using multiple accounts.
There is no conventional standard for meriting posts because everyone is free to give merit based on personal standards. I have seen posts with more casual words receive a large amount of merits. But I don't think that posts deserve to get such an amount of merits. It is possible that these accounts have a connection or it is also possible that the sender just wants to offload his airdropped merits. Except there is strong proof linking the two accounts, it will be assumed that they have not broken any rule. Nice catch, OP. 
Icefrag merit sent by hashuna
I saw LoyceV bro post this from Merit earn from there. I gave an ID check, and from there, I saw how Merit got 50. I saw that a low-quality post was given 50 merit points. The account that gave the merit last posted on August 6, 2018, at 01:25:54 PM, then did not post again and became active on January 25, 2024, at 12:14:41 AM. The account post looks like it's a purchased account. The account has changed hands.
My question is, how do I give 50 merit in this simple post? Merit is given to those who post good quality standards, but it is seen that merit is being misused. Merits are being offered to random posts that need to be noted. They are trying to grow new accounts using multiple accounts.
Better call @lovesmayfamilis. Urgently. She will bring order here! I saw LoyceV bro post this from Merit earn from there. I gave an ID check, and from there, I saw how Merit got 50. I saw that a low-quality post was given 50 merit points. The account that gave the merit last posted on August 6, 2018, at 01:25:54 PM, then did not post again and became active on January 25, 2024, at 12:14:41 AM. The account post looks like it's a purchased account. The account has changed hands.
My question is, how do I give 50 merit in this simple post? Merit is given to those who post good quality standards, but it is seen that merit is being misused. Merits are being offered to random posts that need to be noted. They are trying to grow new accounts using multiple accounts.
Although in the comments above we already figured out what’s what.About @LoyceV bro. He awarded merit in large quantities to others (you won’t believe it, I personally saw it when he sent it to me
), but this was due to other reasons.Sending large amounts of merit one time (or repeatedly) is not an indicator of abuse of merit, but in this case, all signs point to the opposite. Abuse case is closed.
@Elissa~sH, you deserve
My question is, how do I give 50 merit in this simple post? Merit is given to those who post good quality standards, but it is seen that merit is being misused. Merits are being offered to random posts that need to be noted. They are trying to grow new accounts using multiple accounts.
Nice catch OpI think it might be that both accounts belong to one owner. And the Hero Member account from which such a large merit transaction is done is probably the hack or sold account. And his purpose is to increase the rank of a new account by transferring all Smerit
This account password reset via email 4/17/2023, the hack or buying activity appears to have taken place at that time. and this merit transaction is the first transaction from this account. and 50 merit in the first transaction ha ha
My question is, how do I give 50 merit in this simple post? Merit is given to those who post good quality standards, but it is seen that merit is being misused. Merits are being offered to random posts that need to be noted. They are trying to grow new accounts using multiple accounts.
You're right. It's a misuse of merits and both accounts are probably connected, but it's hard to prove.
Icefrag has been inactive for over five years, and all of his merits have been airdropped, so it's possible that he's part of a larger account farm. hashuna, on the other hand, is a newbie and all his posts are related to "Pyrin" announcement.
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