Topic: theymos is a government agent | do not use this forum it is honeypot - page 4. (Read 9261 times)

GTFO if you dont like the forum

What will that do? it'll only make it slightly easier for the hacker, he won't have to go through as many mouse clicks to reset a password after he logs in.

Who is 'we'? And how do you know?

We are starting to see hacked accounts from the leak appear and begin to troll these forums. Theymos needs to force a password reset on all unchanged passwords ASAP.

This hack and the last was in October of 2013 to my knowledge. I think there was one other hack back in 2010ish, but I don't recall the details of that. That isn't really the point, my point was that hacks happen, Bitcointalk doesn't have that bad of a track record, even big companies have been hacked repeatedly. What would you like seen done? There is new forum software in production, which should help. This attack wasn't a forum vulnerability, it was an attack on the hosting company.

Discussion sections don't increase the forum's legal involvement. We do not collect any money from ponzi operators, we do not endorse any ponzis, we do not run a ponzi ourself, we warn users that they could be scams, we warn users to check their local jurisdictions before participating. Google ponzi schemes, and you will find names and information about active ponzi schemes. Google isn't responsible if you decide to put your money in them. Discuss this with a lawyer if you wish, you don't understand what constitutes involvement beyond what you are rationalizing. That isn't how the law defines it.

I'm not sure who said the ponzi section was created to protect noobs, as I said, people didn't want ponzis grouped together with other gambling, so a new section was added to reduce clutter.  Frankly, the ponzi section is one of the least controversial sections. As I said, Gambling online in general is illegal in the US.

Nope. Your scenario would mean actual illegal images were hosted or displayed on the forum, which would remove the question of jurisdiction.  Furthermore child pornography is illegal in most of the world, not just the US. If there is a legitimate use for the section ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, then it is legal by default. If staff are notified of any activity that is criminal in any of the participating users jurisdictions, they do take efforts to stop or remove the offending posts, satisfying the requirement of due dilligence. Furthermore as it exists the ponzis are just discussed and coordinated on the forum without the direct assistance of BCT, the actual ponzis operate in the individual's home country, not on the BCT host. If BCT actually hosted the ponzis you might have a point, but your example fails when examined closely.

Perhaps,

 The forum is a subversive Political Action Committee for a party to fund its candidates and the hacks are the result of 'Opposition Research' trying to get some dirt...

Sorry but your "understanding" of law leaves something to be desired. You are mistaken.

I don't see how Bitcointalk fits your red bolded text either. It has been hacked two times in five years to my knowledge.

About the bolded above, there is a sliding scale of legal involvement. Fully involved, partially involved, and minimally involved. Fully involved would be a site designed to cater for such behavior that is in question. If I make an online drug market, my role is fully involved in an action illegal in my jurisdiction. Partially involved would be a site that doesn't condone actions done, but has a certain expected level of care owed to those involved. For example, if you were scammed in the marketplace section and the forums was paid to provide a safe marketplace, we wouldn't be legally responsible for the scammer, but we would be obligated to make the situation right. Bitcointalk is minimally involved in everything you have mentioned. Our primary motivation is Bitcoin discussion, and we make no statements explicit or implied that we are here to protect users from anything. Just the opposite, it is common knowledge that people are on their own, and the only thing moderators or administrators of the site are expected to do, is to reduce spam. We moderate discussion that is disruptive, not necessarily illegal. There are plenty of warnings stating that viewed content is the individual's responsibility.

Good detective job mate .
But probably Theymos knew already who did that . like the hack of 2013 he knew who was it but he decided to not do anything about it and simply forgive the hacker .

hey mybitcointrade.com aka mr.anonymous,

by the way, you/they have my bitcoin and i want them back !

Hello Mr. Anonymous;
I think theymos should take care of you because you're probably the guy who compromised servers.
According to google cache the account you use belongs to "Mybitcointrade.com" and it was not active since 2012. to be precise; Last Active:   September 25, 2012, 10:17:21 AM (according to google cache: 21 Apr 2015 01:05:26 GMT)
https://www.google.com/search?q=cache:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=25340

Ps: check the avatar

The forum is not necessarily hosted in the US for one (not sure where it is). Second US law has provisions protecting service providers for the illegal activities of their users as long as they are not directly involved in the activities of course, beyond being a service provider like hosting a forum. Otherwise, how could any international corporation operate ever? There will always be conflicts of national law between an individuals country of residence and the country they operate within. Jurisdiction is a very important legal foundation of criminal law.

Second, if 2 people on Pluto want to plan a ponzi on the forum, and ponzis are legal on Pluto, then it really doesn't matter what the law is anywhere else, because as residents of Pluto, no US laws were violated, meaning there is no legal liability. There may be some newer exceptions to this as the UN and Interpol wrestle jurisdiction away from national governments and begin imposing the laws of every other nation upon individuals in their own home countries.

Now you are just talking trash, what is the proof and evidence for all your claims? Just because those websites that got hacked didnt get hacked many times that still doesnt mean anything, this forum hasnt been hacked so many times either.

I have done my research, long ago. That is how I know you are mistaken.

I think theymos is ~26 years old (most probable) under the 30s... but it is only a supposition.

PS: However, why the OP doesn't 'have' a nickname but a space ?

I'm 100% certain Theymos is in his 20s. He isn't in the senate or congress. Could he be some other sort of government official, yeah I don't know for sure that he isn't. But I do know for certain that he isn't old enough to be a Wisconsin representative. A family member perhaps? I've seen his picture, its floating around in the original Theymos dox thread somewhere in Meta. He isn't the person others have posted pictures of.

How come you don't have a name anyway
Anyway , Theymos name is public on different forums and websites . So If he was really an agent for the governement that would be revealed long time ago when he took over the forum and not till now . even if he is , so what ? It dosen't matter . All we care about is that Bitcoin is annonymus and they can't control that so we are cool .

The Michael MArquardt on that page is theymos, without any doubt. Same name, same age same city. I fucking hate this shit, re you fuckers really this blind that you cannot research for yourself and see the 100% unadulterated truth.

Wait.. no one is forcing you to put your bitcoin in the ponzi schemes.... this is the thing that a lot of users don't understand. He created that second trash section (yes it is only a trash...) to collect all the useless thread and I suggest always the users "don't take part to those ponzi schemes".