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Topic: Theymos you don't help us, so now close the french board (Read 1126 times)

hero member
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It's done, we have a moderator ;)



Edit 16/07 : Of course I never wanted that the french board closed, that was the only way I found to said how many we (I) was tired with the mess in our local section.

Theymos give us halab, we have never vote for him but it was a REAL good decision, 1 week later french local board is clean !
copper member
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
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I'm not entirely sure also why he thought the politics and society board needed a moderator more than the french board

The need for a P&S mod and a French Mod are completely irrelevant to each other.  I wasn't promoted to a mod and then assigned P&S over the French board.  I don't believe having a P&S mod reduces or changes in anyway the French board getting a mod.

I think he meant that we deserve to have a moderator as much as P&S do. The two sections can have a moderator, he was wondering why it seems important for Theymos to have a moderator for P&S, while he doesn't care for our local board.

Yeah you might want to read the part of my post you quoted again FH.
Both need a mod but somehow the PS one was found first which seems a bit odd because there were a lot of non-spammers that just moved to serious discussion and the french pdople can't really move out of their board unless they want to pick up another language.
full member
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I'm not entirely sure also why he thought the politics and society board needed a moderator more than the french board

The need for a P&S mod and a French Mod are completely irrelevant to each other.  I wasn't promoted to a mod and then assigned P&S over the French board.  I don't believe having a P&S mod reduces or changes in anyway the French board getting a mod.

I think he meant that we deserve to have a moderator as much as P&S do. The two sections can have a moderator, he was wondering why it seems important for Theymos to have a moderator for P&S, while he doesn't care for our local board.
legendary
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Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!
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I'm not entirely sure also why he thought the politics and society board needed a moderator more than the french board

The need for a P&S mod and a French Mod are completely irrelevant to each other.  I wasn't promoted to a mod and then assigned P&S over the French board.  I don't believe having a P&S mod reduces or changes in anyway the French board getting a mod.

hero member
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We definitely  get the whole idea here. To keep that board alive there should be someone who should stepup to keep it alive.

They are right that theymos might not just able to find someone who's willing to support that local section. Since you are already here gaining attention.

Try to apply for being a mod? And start reporting posts that you think does not have any sense at all. That might change theymos's outlook towards that section. As long as you are ready for that responsibility.
legendary
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I vouch for LeGaulois to be a second French board mod.

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Our actual mod isn't doing anything anymore (kcud_dab). I don't know him at all, so he might have been a great mod in the past, but he doesn't do shit now. And I believe he is getting payed for that.

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- Everything's going according to plan. Kcud_dab is a good moderator.
- I need a little more time, but you're on the right/bad way.
- Okay, you're right, the situation is no longer bearable, I'll give you an answer soon.

Since there is already a mod and not questioning his capability, but considering the responses on this thread, a helping hand, additional support could be useful for one of the most popular boards in local, my opinion.
newbie
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It's sad to hear this about the French board, just as France is getting bullish on crypto too. Bad timing.
I hope a moderator is elected soon.
sr. member
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+ 1 with JohnUser.

Close the French section, please.
hero member
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For now, it doesn't matter anyway. Fuck crypto, WE ARE IN SEMI-FINAL MOTHERFUCKERS !!!

(sorry, I had to)


maybe if we win the wold cup we will have a moderator.

But yeah, we are good ! (Russian must be afraid)
hero member
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With his links, Halab has given great examples of what we have to deal with every day.
I'll give you another one. Do you guys think it's normal that we have to create a thread like this one in order to get rid of fake French translators who poison our board ?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/to-all-bms-here-is-a-list-of-fake-french-translators-help-us-tag-them-4498551

If we had a mod, he would just have to delete the threads. Here, we have to red trust those guys, gather some proof against them and then hope for a DT to check on the situation and tag them. We shouldn't have to do that. And that's only a mere drop in the ocean.
We are not a small community (though more and more French people are leaving), we deserve to be heard.
Just get rid of this useless mod (I can't believe he's getting paid for doing nothing) and promote someone else.
staff
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I find your lack of faith in Bitcoin disturbing.
Back to the discussion, here: does the French board have a consensus on who the top two most qualified to-be moderators are?

I know that JohnUser doesn't want to be a moderator, so consider only the ones who are willing.

We discussed this in February and names came up.
- LeGaulois (Hero)
- Soy (Legendary) (from July and he asked for several mods)
- JonhUser (for Altcoins sections only)
and maybe more now. Things may have changed since February.

But before giving names, we should know if Theymos agrees to promote moderator(s). Once its GO given, the names will come quickly Smiley
copper member
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Spear the bees
can you think of something that fits there that couldn't be put in either Beginners and Help or Development and Technical Discussion?
General discussion on Bitcoin. Some ideas: "Public viewpoint of Bitcoin", "Depth of bitcoin knowledge of the average user", etc.
Back to the discussion, here: does the French board have a consensus on who the top two most qualified to-be moderators are?

I know that JohnUser doesn't want to be a moderator, so consider only the ones who are willing.
copper member
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
most of the people who didn't want to spam but have relevant topics moved their topics to serious discussion or ivory tow.
I never liked the idea of ignoring the problem and just moving somewhere else.

Serious discussion and the Ivory Tower are good. But they should be temporary solutions. There will still be rampant spam in all sections namely Bitcoin Discussion which has devolved to the point where it seems insulting to have such a name. Moderators need to handle things on a more macro level (thread locks/trashing), or there should be more moderators appointed.

We should also have some better proactive measures against spam as the forum scales.

That went a bit off topic, however, I don't get the point of bitcoin discussion and think it's a bit redundant, can you think of something that fits there that couldn't be put in either Beginners and Help or Development and Technical Discussion?
copper member
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Spear the bees
most of the people who didn't want to spam but have relevant topics moved their topics to serious discussion or ivory tow.
I never liked the idea of ignoring the problem and just moving somewhere else.

Serious discussion and the Ivory Tower are good. But they should be temporary solutions. There will still be rampant spam in all sections namely Bitcoin Discussion which has devolved to the point where it seems insulting to have such a name. Moderators need to handle things on a more macro level (thread locks/trashing), or there should be more moderators appointed.

We should also have some better proactive measures against spam as the forum scales.
copper member
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
What is meant by "experimental French users"?
Experienced.
Ah ok.

First of all, that was just an example.
Problem being, reporting posts in the French section doesn't lead to results when the moderator doesn't moderate.
But it owuld be picked up by theymos if there were a very large number of pending requests.

If he doesn't cite them then report them for plagiarism with the relevant links (by PMing a global mod).
It shouldn't have to be this contrived. :/

If the board is at the point where they have to PM global mods to help moderate the section then isn't it a huge red flag to theymos that he should enlist the help of a new moderator?
Yes. But for some reason he hasn't so that's the best alternative I could come up with.


I'm not entirely sure also why he thought the politics and society board needed a moderator more than the french board, most of the people who didn't want to spam but have relevant topics moved their topics to serious discussion or ivory tow.
copper member
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Spear the bees
What is meant by "experimental French users"?
Experienced.

First of all, that was just an example.
Problem being, reporting posts in the French section doesn't lead to results when the moderator doesn't moderate.

If he doesn't cite them then report them for plagiarism with the relevant links (by PMing a global mod).
It shouldn't have to be this contrived. :/

If the board is at the point where they have to PM global mods to help moderate the section then isn't it a huge red flag to theymos that he should enlist the help of a new moderator?
copper member
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
Let's Vote For The OP To Become A Mod Of His Local Board Smiley
I guess you're the only one who really fits well and with the high concern to your board Wink
There's no objection here as I think.  Grin Grin Grin

He doesn't want to be moderator himself. Some experimented french users of the forum already proposed themselves.

What is meant by "experimental French users"? If they're newbies and JRs then there's probably not much hope in getting them to be mods full/sr+ might have a chance at it though...

Since when did Shorena start reporting ?
How many forums does he/she report on?
How many posts are there on these boards?
What is its/hers report accuracy?

First of all, that was just an example.
Because I asked them that many questions Grin. There was a thread on it, I tried to google it but with no avail.
Accuracy was 99% if I remember rightly and what do you mean by forums, if you mean boards then no one actually really has that data other than Theymos so how would I know? And whenever they registered obvioulsy (2013).

@Halab

All the topics created by @Kitcho are translated texts from English news websites to French
If he doesn't cite them then report them for plagiarism with the relevant links (by PMing a global mod).
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@Halab

All the topics created by @Kitcho are translated texts from English news websites to French
staff
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I find your lack of faith in Bitcoin disturbing.
I went to your local board, at the bitcoin discussion and all topics were in French there.
Didn't find a single topic in Chinesein this board
Your local board looks ok to me. Everything is in French as it should be. I can't evaluate what they are saying, but I know it's 90% trash as most the forum.
Would you like to be do happy if I spoken like to you as this ? Do you want to read about mining swimming pool ?

One example : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--4602345
" S'il vous plaît nous offrir du temps!" if I try to translate it in english : "Please offer we some time". In correct french, we say : please give us some time. We don't offer time.
"Deux tours de simplement envoyer votre adresse à notre compte bitcointalk comme message." => "Two rounds of simply send your adresse to our BCT's account like message"

And more than an example, why do you think french members have created this topic : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/to-all-bms-here-is-a-list-of-fake-french-translators-help-us-tag-them-4404879 ?


Can you link a board with real problems?
It's easy to answer, have a look at : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=13.0

More seriously, you want to get news on the Bitcoin? Don't go on the french Bitcoin news board.
A few days ago, a member decided to flood the Bitcoin news forum. Here's the result:

We told him to stop, he kept going before he heard reason.  

The Daneel ambassador has decided to make one topic per news of his token :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41522656
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41334787
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40997191
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40759328
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40678426
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40321942
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40321942
It's too hard to create one and only one topic for his token ? Isn't Altcoins board flooded enough already?

You want to buy contraband cigarettes ? Come to the French boards.

You want an example of a non-French-speaking man who comes to do his signature campaign with impunity?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--3167706
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32865369
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32865407
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32865528
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32865575
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32865810
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32865861
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32866084
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32866788
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32867478
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32867629
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32867649
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32866708
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32866522
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32866446
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32866330
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32866389
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32867824
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32867722
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32867885
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32867934
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32868560
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32868584
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32868610
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32868754
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32868776
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32868856
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32868893
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32868928
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32867663
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32868946
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32868972
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32869005
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32869200
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32876234
Is it enough ? I've got plenty more.

Is it still ok for you?

There are users here like shorena who have reported tens of thousands of posts accurately without any acknowledgement of them (disclaimer: this information was read by me a while ago, it might not be 100% accurate).

Since when did Shorena start reporting ?
How many forums does he/she report on?
How many posts are there on these boards?
What is its/hers report accuracy?


I started to report in February on the French boards only.
Make a comparison on the number of posts between the English and French boards.
And compare what is comparable.
full member
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Let's Vote For The OP To Become A Mod Of His Local Board Smiley
I guess you're the only one who really fits well and with the high concern to your board Wink
There's no objection here as I think.  Grin Grin Grin

He doesn't want to be moderator himself. Some experienced (Smiley) french users of the forum already proposed themselves.
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