Topic: To all BMs, here is a list of fake French translators - help us tag them ! (Read 1288 times)

To be continued here :  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/to-all-bms-here-is-a-list-of-fake-french-translators-help-us-tag-them-4498551

It was my biggest mistake ever. I would continue help the community here. May be one day the RedTrust changes if i can aprove that am not a bad guy.


Please keep in mind, that statement was based on good willing to help community and not a part of a scam sheme like you continue describing it !!!
I wrongly evaluate my skills in languages and this is why i wrote that post and this is why i tried to contribute for translation services.


Maybe am not looking for your mercy Lord JohnUser!! I provided details in my last posts about how this did happen with me and the confusion in my head about forum rules and bounty rules. I find this as an opportunity to discuss it. User asche had politely discuss some points with me.
Am looking for you to not have a bad attitude about me, trying to describe that am not a scammer.

Whitepaper in french with google or any low quality automated translation :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VbPUfhL8yPzq4gepieypC57RoLruwM-p/view

The ironic thing is that he wants to offer his services to track down bad French translators (ans other language) : http://archive.is/PXjql

What are you looking for? what is done can't be undone.

Well the point of the thread was to make BM's aware of people with low quality translations. You can see that as a punishment.


Three possibilities:

• He has minions working for him, as long as it is good work I don't have any issue with it.
• He is heavily using google translate and you should put his name here, or in another thread so that he can get tagged
• He is a mother**cking genius

I didn't get it was "just" a Whitepaper. My bad. Basically you just hustled a team then/stole money from someone who would have done a good job.

Thanks for your replay asche.


Yes that's right! This is why i didn't try to start trying translations with threads that have to be posted in local boards. This rule is one of forum rules that should not be broken and i didn't break it until confirmation that my works can be accepted.
Reminder; i translated one WhitePaper which is Orbis WhitePaper and after being accepted and added to spreadsheet, i started applying for more Translations. I tried to explain it here and that i didn't scam anybody or break the forum rules (Indeed, i thought that managers are responsible to set rules for their campaign and if breaking those rules in someway will not lead to Red-Tag if it doesn't in contradiction with the forum rules. If you find the reason to call me a scammer, then please set rules before for managers on how to run properly their campaigns. Am not trying to prove innocence for translation scammers that use local boards to post their fake works but how to call a scammer a scammer if he didn't scam anybody and didn't will to scam anybody. After receiving the Red Trust, i contacted those who accepted me to complete translations informing them to hire other translators.



Here we are talking about breaking the bounty rules. You break the rules then you are disqualified from the campaign and may be blacklisted for other future campaign as it may be reported to forum Mods in case breaking the forum rules. Some other notes may be interresting for Detectives who called me scammer/faker (without a proof it's an insult)
- Are bounty rules considered sacred and we should punish those whose breaking them?
- How to call someone who applied for two translations or more per day and appears to be able to translate 10 whitepapers and 20 threads and moderate them all, in just one week?
- Would you please provide proofs that i scammed any project or breaking any rule of the forum?



I totally agree with you, but i didn't post anything in local boards. Detectives did an awsome investigation about possible works but found nothing.

It does.

Posts in local boards have to be written in that language.

You aren't writing french when using these tools. Period.

All bounties I have seen state that using automated tools is forbidden. So you are basically stealing/scamming while trashing the local boards.

This is your own opinion but you say it as it is a general truth as it doesn't break any forum rule. Why should we use translating tools in general?? For those who are not native speakers of such a language, may be find help using those tools. I don't mean using them as the only way for translation but google for example can't well translate context and this is why it's not recommended. In my case, i confess that i found help using it to translate many technical terms but i wasn't able to finish the work and check it twice in just 6 days requierement as it was my first try.


People are called scammers because majority of bounty managers don't check the works before paiements; if they can't speak all languages, there are many solutions to verify translations:

No 


It doesn't mean someone is eligible to complete the task using google translate or alike but it means that anybody can take the chance to do the work then managers have to check the work and take the decision to accept or refuse it. But BM ignore the task and wait for someone to contact them.

I got a new client for you guys :

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/maxi32-1903084

https://archive.fo/Op0SM

Using a translator tool to translate something is no different than scamming the bounty manager and the project itself. People are abusing the fact that the guys don't speak the language to check the job quality.


You must be trolling, right? Not any full sentence makes sense. You have zero knowledge of French and any French citizen can see it while reading.
If nobody applied for a translation doesn't mean someone is eligible to complete the task using google translate or alike

Depends on the bounty manager.

Some of them compare their translations with google translate in languages they don't understand themselves. Other ones create a proofreading task.

Most of them just trust the translators/wait for someone to contact them like we do.

Again, greatly appreciated guys !
And yeah I guess some of them got paid, we can't catch them all at the right time.
I can't speak for BMs so I don't know what is checked and what is not. Some of them probably don't care and some probably wouldn't know how to recognize real French.
I just hope this list will clean things up in the French board.

Most likely the person who pays doesn't know the target language (otherwise why would they pay someone to translate) so yeah... this is a bona fide scam vector.

I tagged the fuckers who were untagged in the OP.  This does not surprise me that morons are doing this, as there are tons of desperate people on this forum--but that's no excuse for this nonsense.  

Tell me these people aren't getting paid for google translate jobs.  I'm not familiar with how these translation bounties work.  Isn't there a review of the work they did before they receive payment?

N entry in the translation spreadsheet: 63