Topic: THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN BUYING AN ACCOUNT - page 2. (Read 4323 times)
You should be careful the account is not hacked or else the owner may get it banned/claim it later. signing a message by an old BTC address in a previous post can confirm this is the real owner I think.
I see many sellers says about potential activity and i have seen that it takes some times to count them.
My question would be: Is there any bot or any tool that would automatically check the potential activity of an account.
My question would be: Is there any bot or any tool that would automatically check the potential activity of an account.
IMO these are the most important things to check when buying an account on this forum:
1-it's not hacked, Ask to sign a message from an old address.
2-it doesn't have a pending loan, check recent posts and the loaning forum for anything related to the username.
3-it doesn't have any negative trusts even the untrusted feedback.
4-it isn't involved in anything controversial (again by recent posts and search/looking around), it may receive negative trust later if it was involved in anything controversial.
1-it's not hacked, Ask to sign a message from an old address.
2-it doesn't have a pending loan, check recent posts and the loaning forum for anything related to the username.
3-it doesn't have any negative trusts even the untrusted feedback.
4-it isn't involved in anything controversial (again by recent posts and search/looking around), it may receive negative trust later if it was involved in anything controversial.
When i would knew the seller told the account to others then i would not buy anymore. So i would ask him. When he tells me then im out.
Why? There are some people on the forum that give sold accounts negative. If one of these asks the seller, they dont have to be interested in fact, then the account is at risk. Why should i buy such account then?
Its simply not worth then. So i think its not smart to reveal the accoun to anyone other than the escrow. He can check everything and the account is safe until its really sold.
I still search a fast way to check for potential activity. Anyone knows one? Accounts with high post counts are no fun to count the 2 week periods.
Why? There are some people on the forum that give sold accounts negative. If one of these asks the seller, they dont have to be interested in fact, then the account is at risk. Why should i buy such account then?
Its simply not worth then. So i think its not smart to reveal the accoun to anyone other than the escrow. He can check everything and the account is safe until its really sold.
I still search a fast way to check for potential activity. Anyone knows one? Accounts with high post counts are no fun to count the 2 week periods.
nice to see a different perspective on the matter, as you run an escrow service; maybe ive just gotten lucky so far with the accounts. as for counting activity, it would likely be possible to create a script that could do that; bit-x's signature campaign bot can read through posts and get a rough character count, section the post was in, and other info that is used in calculating posts for a sig campaign. im sure there's a way to get the dates of the posts in order to calculate the activity. im sure bitcoin boy could implement something like that in a day with the existing code from the sig campaign bot.
I wanna buy an account and i wanna knw the kind of things i should watch out for when im buying a membership account on this forum
Something to consider if you want to buy an account are The Rank lever of tbe account at least Sr. Member, Post quality, and Trust level of the account also the price of the account you want to buy
you should also extensively search the account's posts and history once you know the name of the account to see if it is involved in any suspicious activity, scams, has any open loans, etc. for obvious reasons.
i dont think so anyone will tell you account username before the payment or deal because no one like and trust sold account and that is why escrow is must to buy the account you can ask the escrow to check the account for is it involved in any suspicious activity, scams, has any open loans
actually, ive done a few account deals on here before, and every single time the seller has opted to inform me of the account's name at my request, sometimes before i even confirm that i will purchase the account.
When i would knew the seller told the account to others then i would not buy anymore. So i would ask him. When he tells me then im out.
Why? There are some people on the forum that give sold accounts negative. If one of these asks the seller, they dont have to be interested in fact, then the account is at risk. Why should i buy such account then?
Its simply not worth then. So i think its not smart to reveal the accoun to anyone other than the escrow. He can check everything and the account is safe until its really sold.
I still search a fast way to check for potential activity. Anyone knows one? Accounts with high post counts are no fun to count the 2 week periods.
I wanna buy an account and i wanna knw the kind of things i should watch out for when im buying a membership account on this forum
Something to consider if you want to buy an account are The Rank lever of tbe account at least Sr. Member, Post quality, and Trust level of the account also the price of the account you want to buy
you should also extensively search the account's posts and history once you know the name of the account to see if it is involved in any suspicious activity, scams, has any open loans, etc. for obvious reasons.
i dont think so anyone will tell you account username before the payment or deal because no one like and trust sold account and that is why escrow is must to buy the account you can ask the escrow to check the account for is it involved in any suspicious activity, scams, has any open loans
actually, ive done a few account deals on here before, and every single time the seller has opted to inform me of the account's name at my request, sometimes before i even confirm that i will purchase the account.
I wanna buy an account and i wanna knw the kind of things i should watch out for when im buying a membership account on this forum
Something to consider if you want to buy an account are The Rank lever of tbe account at least Sr. Member, Post quality, and Trust level of the account also the price of the account you want to buy
you should also extensively search the account's posts and history once you know the name of the account to see if it is involved in any suspicious activity, scams, has any open loans, etc. for obvious reasons.
i dont think so anyone will tell you account username before the payment or deal because no one like and trust sold account and that is why escrow is must to buy the account you can ask the escrow to check the account for is it involved in any suspicious activity, scams, has any open loans
I think he is meaning something else like: The signed message "xxxx and address xxxx and signature xxxx" has been signed on Tuesday 21 July 2015. If i understand his question
well theere is no "date" field in a signed message, all there is are an address, message, and signature. if the message is dated the date would be included in the message, and the signature would be different compared to is the date was not included in the message as the message would be different. if youre asking if the date the message was signed could be verified or seen with the date not being explicitly stated in the message, no, i dont believe there is a way to do that.
But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?
Please respond, I'm curious about this one.
Please respond, I'm curious about this one.
No need to worry if the buyer have signed message from the seller when buying accounts, that would serve as proof of account transfer and he cant claim it back
Well when you buy an account you ask the seller to sign a message that that account is sold to you, and you must keep this message for future, so you are protected. - my opinion
its not just your opinion, i agree with it as well. by stating in the signed message that the account will be sold to you, the seller can no longer claim the account back as theirs using a signed message.
Quick question about signed messages: Now, from what I understand, for a signed message to be valid, it must have been fron an address associated to the account from a post or something at some point. If a person were to purchase an account, and then decide to resell it for whatever reason, how could he legitimately prove ownership without having access to an address that has been associated with the account for an extended period of time?
The buyer can't proof that he is the legitimate buyer except he got a signature from seller that says that the previous owner sold the account to him. The new owner should have posted a bitcoin address so that he can proof, with another signature, that he held the account since then.
When selling an account then the message should contain the date of sale, the account to be sold and the buyer who bought it.
I agree with you, a date should be included in the signed message, i dont know if we can verify when has been signed the message can we?
if a date is included in the signed message, that should be sufficient proof the message was signed on that day if the message can be verified as valid; the signature for the message wouldnt be valid if any part of the message or signature were to be changed.
Yes i know that, but i was wondering if we can verify when was that message signed if there is no date in the message.
yes, the signature of the signed message is only valid for that particular message. the date is just a part of the message. if the signature corresponds to the message it should be verifiable without issues.
I think he is meaning something else like: The signed message "xxxx and address xxxx and signature xxxx" has been signed on Tuesday 21 July 2015. If i understand his question
But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?
Please respond, I'm curious about this one.
Please respond, I'm curious about this one.
No need to worry if the buyer have signed message from the seller when buying accounts, that would serve as proof of account transfer and he cant claim it back
Well when you buy an account you ask the seller to sign a message that that account is sold to you, and you must keep this message for future, so you are protected. - my opinion
its not just your opinion, i agree with it as well. by stating in the signed message that the account will be sold to you, the seller can no longer claim the account back as theirs using a signed message.
Quick question about signed messages: Now, from what I understand, for a signed message to be valid, it must have been fron an address associated to the account from a post or something at some point. If a person were to purchase an account, and then decide to resell it for whatever reason, how could he legitimately prove ownership without having access to an address that has been associated with the account for an extended period of time?
The buyer can't proof that he is the legitimate buyer except he got a signature from seller that says that the previous owner sold the account to him. The new owner should have posted a bitcoin address so that he can proof, with another signature, that he held the account since then.
When selling an account then the message should contain the date of sale, the account to be sold and the buyer who bought it.
I agree with you, a date should be included in the signed message, i dont know if we can verify when has been signed the message can we?
if a date is included in the signed message, that should be sufficient proof the message was signed on that day if the message can be verified as valid; the signature for the message wouldnt be valid if any part of the message or signature were to be changed.
Yes i know that, but i was wondering if we can verify when was that message signed if there is no date in the message.
yes, the signature of the signed message is only valid for that particular message. the date is just a part of the message. if the signature corresponds to the message it should be verifiable without issues.
Make sure the seller signs a message just to prove that account is theirs and not stolen or hacked. There are many scams outhere, beware!
But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?
Please respond, I'm curious about this one.
Please respond, I'm curious about this one.
No need to worry if the buyer have signed message from the seller when buying accounts, that would serve as proof of account transfer and he cant claim it back
Well when you buy an account you ask the seller to sign a message that that account is sold to you, and you must keep this message for future, so you are protected. - my opinion
its not just your opinion, i agree with it as well. by stating in the signed message that the account will be sold to you, the seller can no longer claim the account back as theirs using a signed message.
Quick question about signed messages: Now, from what I understand, for a signed message to be valid, it must have been fron an address associated to the account from a post or something at some point. If a person were to purchase an account, and then decide to resell it for whatever reason, how could he legitimately prove ownership without having access to an address that has been associated with the account for an extended period of time?
The buyer can't proof that he is the legitimate buyer except he got a signature from seller that says that the previous owner sold the account to him. The new owner should have posted a bitcoin address so that he can proof, with another signature, that he held the account since then.
When selling an account then the message should contain the date of sale, the account to be sold and the buyer who bought it.
I agree with you, a date should be included in the signed message, i dont know if we can verify when has been signed the message can we?
if a date is included in the signed message, that should be sufficient proof the message was signed on that day if the message can be verified as valid; the signature for the message wouldnt be valid if any part of the message or signature were to be changed.
Yes i know that, but i was wondering if we can verify when was that message signed if there is no date in the message.
I wanna buy an account and i wanna knw the kind of things i should watch out for when im buying a membership account on this forum
Something to consider if you want to buy an account are The Rank lever of tbe account at least Sr. Member, Post quality, and Trust level of the account also the price of the account you want to buy
you should also extensively search the account's posts and history once you know the name of the account to see if it is involved in any suspicious activity, scams, has any open loans, etc. for obvious reasons.
I wanna buy an account and i wanna knw the kind of things i should watch out for when im buying a membership account on this forum
Something to consider if you want to buy an account are The Rank lever of tbe account at least Sr. Member, Post quality, and Trust level of the account also the price of the account you want to buy
But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?
Please respond, I'm curious about this one.
Please respond, I'm curious about this one.
No need to worry if the buyer have signed message from the seller when buying accounts, that would serve as proof of account transfer and he cant claim it back
Well when you buy an account you ask the seller to sign a message that that account is sold to you, and you must keep this message for future, so you are protected. - my opinion
its not just your opinion, i agree with it as well. by stating in the signed message that the account will be sold to you, the seller can no longer claim the account back as theirs using a signed message.
Quick question about signed messages: Now, from what I understand, for a signed message to be valid, it must have been fron an address associated to the account from a post or something at some point. If a person were to purchase an account, and then decide to resell it for whatever reason, how could he legitimately prove ownership without having access to an address that has been associated with the account for an extended period of time?
The buyer can't proof that he is the legitimate buyer except he got a signature from seller that says that the previous owner sold the account to him. The new owner should have posted a bitcoin address so that he can proof, with another signature, that he held the account since then.
When selling an account then the message should contain the date of sale, the account to be sold and the buyer who bought it.
I agree with you, a date should be included in the signed message, i dont know if we can verify when has been signed the message can we?
if a date is included in the signed message, that should be sufficient proof the message was signed on that day if the message can be verified as valid; the signature for the message wouldnt be valid if any part of the message or signature were to be changed.
i think theres more risk on buying an account.
You have to double check if they dont have some password recovery setup, or the other secret pw security question answer to be super safe.
And even using escrow, they only provide the pw on the account so the 2nd point I mentioned I see it happen more with them entering by security questions.
You have to double check if they dont have some password recovery setup, or the other secret pw security question answer to be super safe.
And even using escrow, they only provide the pw on the account so the 2nd point I mentioned I see it happen more with them entering by security questions.
But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?
Please respond, I'm curious about this one.
Please respond, I'm curious about this one.
this is why always use escrow when buying a forum account because escrow is the witness that the account is soled and he will protact everything regarding it and also there is one more way which is signing a message if you use your mind and choss wisly your account is going no where after buying, ps also ask the escrow to check the account post history because people made crap posts mostly is some other languge and then sale it
But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?
Please respond, I'm curious about this one.
Please respond, I'm curious about this one.
No need to worry if the buyer have signed message from the seller when buying accounts, that would serve as proof of account transfer and he cant claim it back
Well when you buy an account you ask the seller to sign a message that that account is sold to you, and you must keep this message for future, so you are protected. - my opinion
its not just your opinion, i agree with it as well. by stating in the signed message that the account will be sold to you, the seller can no longer claim the account back as theirs using a signed message.
Quick question about signed messages: Now, from what I understand, for a signed message to be valid, it must have been fron an address associated to the account from a post or something at some point. If a person were to purchase an account, and then decide to resell it for whatever reason, how could he legitimately prove ownership without having access to an address that has been associated with the account for an extended period of time?
The buyer can't proof that he is the legitimate buyer except he got a signature from seller that says that the previous owner sold the account to him. The new owner should have posted a bitcoin address so that he can proof, with another signature, that he held the account since then.
When selling an account then the message should contain the date of sale, the account to be sold and the buyer who bought it.
I agree with you, a date should be included in the signed message, i dont know if we can verify when has been signed the message can we?
But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?
Please respond, I'm curious about this one.
Please respond, I'm curious about this one.
No need to worry if the buyer have signed message from the seller when buying accounts, that would serve as proof of account transfer and he cant claim it back
Well when you buy an account you ask the seller to sign a message that that account is sold to you, and you must keep this message for future, so you are protected. - my opinion
its not just your opinion, i agree with it as well. by stating in the signed message that the account will be sold to you, the seller can no longer claim the account back as theirs using a signed message.
Well from this i conclude that this is our opinion and every user should consider this as a must for their account.
But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?
Please respond, I'm curious about this one.
Please respond, I'm curious about this one.
No need to worry if the buyer have signed message from the seller when buying accounts, that would serve as proof of account transfer and he cant claim it back
Well when you buy an account you ask the seller to sign a message that that account is sold to you, and you must keep this message for future, so you are protected. - my opinion
its not just your opinion, i agree with it as well. by stating in the signed message that the account will be sold to you, the seller can no longer claim the account back as theirs using a signed message.
Quick question about signed messages: Now, from what I understand, for a signed message to be valid, it must have been fron an address associated to the account from a post or something at some point. If a person were to purchase an account, and then decide to resell it for whatever reason, how could he legitimately prove ownership without having access to an address that has been associated with the account for an extended period of time?
The buyer can't proof that he is the legitimate buyer except he got a signature from seller that says that the previous owner sold the account to him. The new owner should have posted a bitcoin address so that he can proof, with another signature, that he held the account since then.
When selling an account then the message should contain the date of sale, the account to be sold and the buyer who bought it.
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