THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN BUYING AN ACCOUNT - page 3.

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Quote from: subSTRATA on July 16, 2015, 08:57:41 PM

Quote from: lorylore on July 16, 2015, 08:39:32 AM

Quote from: Hexcoin on July 15, 2015, 09:45:45 AM

Quote from: Real14Hero on July 15, 2015, 09:00:16 AM

But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?

Please respond, I'm curious about this one.

No need to worry if the buyer have signed message from the seller when buying accounts, that would serve as proof of account transfer and he cant claim it back

Well when you buy an account you ask the seller to sign a message that that account is sold to you, and you must keep this message for future, so you are protected. - my opinion

its not just your opinion, i agree with it as well. by stating in the signed message that the account will be sold to you, the seller can no longer claim the account back as theirs using a signed message.

Quick question about signed messages: Now, from what I understand, for a signed message to be valid, it must have been fron an address associated to the account from a post or something at some point. If a person were to purchase an account, and then decide to resell it for whatever reason, how could he legitimately prove ownership without having access to an address that has been associated with the account for an extended period of time?

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Quote from: subSTRATA on July 16, 2015, 08:57:41 PM

Quote from: lorylore on July 16, 2015, 08:39:32 AM

Quote from: Hexcoin on July 15, 2015, 09:45:45 AM

Quote from: Real14Hero on July 15, 2015, 09:00:16 AM

But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?

Please respond, I'm curious about this one.

No need to worry if the buyer have signed message from the seller when buying accounts, that would serve as proof of account transfer and he cant claim it back

Well when you buy an account you ask the seller to sign a message that that account is sold to you, and you must keep this message for future, so you are protected. - my opinion

its not just your opinion, i agree with it as well. by stating in the signed message that the account will be sold to you, the seller can no longer claim the account back as theirs using a signed message.

This is the most important part of this thread IMO. OP don't miss out on what's quoted above.

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Quote from: lorylore on July 16, 2015, 08:39:32 AM

Quote from: Hexcoin on July 15, 2015, 09:45:45 AM

Quote from: Real14Hero on July 15, 2015, 09:00:16 AM

But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?

Please respond, I'm curious about this one.

No need to worry if the buyer have signed message from the seller when buying accounts, that would serve as proof of account transfer and he cant claim it back

Well when you buy an account you ask the seller to sign a message that that account is sold to you, and you must keep this message for future, so you are protected. - my opinion

its not just your opinion, i agree with it as well. by stating in the signed message that the account will be sold to you, the seller can no longer claim the account back as theirs using a signed message.

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Quote from: Hexcoin on July 15, 2015, 09:45:45 AM

Quote from: Real14Hero on July 15, 2015, 09:00:16 AM

But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?

Please respond, I'm curious about this one.

No need to worry if the buyer have signed message from the seller when buying accounts, that would serve as proof of account transfer and he cant claim it back

Well when you buy an account you ask the seller to sign a message that that account is sold to you, and you must keep this message for future, so you are protected. - my opinion

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Quote from: Reynaldo on July 15, 2015, 03:28:17 PM

Quote from: Amph on July 15, 2015, 03:16:47 PM

Quote from: Hexcoin on July 15, 2015, 09:45:45 AM

Quote from: Real14Hero on July 15, 2015, 09:00:16 AM

But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?

Please respond, I'm curious about this one.

No need to worry if the buyer have signed message from the seller when buying accounts, that would serve as proof of account transfer and he cant claim it back

better to change the address to one of your address and sign it again and reporting that you have bought the account(a bit too drastic but it's the only way to avoid trouble afterward), because you never know with who you're dealing with

Or you can just sell the address that you staked along with the account.

by that you mean giving the private key of that address to the buyer right? if doing this it'd be good to use pgp or another form of communication, pm privacy is not guaranteed.

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Quote from: Amph on July 15, 2015, 03:16:47 PM

Quote from: Hexcoin on July 15, 2015, 09:45:45 AM

Quote from: Real14Hero on July 15, 2015, 09:00:16 AM

But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?

Please respond, I'm curious about this one.

No need to worry if the buyer have signed message from the seller when buying accounts, that would serve as proof of account transfer and he cant claim it back

better to change the address to one of your address and sign it again and reporting that you have bought the account(a bit too drastic but it's the only way to avoid trouble afterward), because you never know with who you're dealing with

Or you can just sell the address that you staked along with the account.

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Quote from: Hexcoin on July 15, 2015, 09:45:45 AM

Quote from: Real14Hero on July 15, 2015, 09:00:16 AM

But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?

Please respond, I'm curious about this one.

No need to worry if the buyer have signed message from the seller when buying accounts, that would serve as proof of account transfer and he cant claim it back

better to change the address to one of your address and sign it again and reporting that you have bought the account(a bit too drastic but it's the only way to avoid trouble afterward), because you never know with who you're dealing with

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Quote from: Hexcoin on July 15, 2015, 09:45:45 AM

Quote from: Real14Hero on July 15, 2015, 09:00:16 AM

But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?

Please respond, I'm curious about this one.

No need to worry if the buyer have signed message from the seller when buying accounts, that would serve as proof of account transfer and he cant claim it back

Not necessarily. It's entirely possible that this will happen and if you read some threads in Meta it has happened before. Some scammers will sell their account then try claim it was hacked to get it back.

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Quote from: Hexcoin on July 15, 2015, 09:45:45 AM

Quote from: Real14Hero on July 15, 2015, 09:00:16 AM

But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?

Please respond, I'm curious about this one.

No need to worry if the buyer have signed message from the seller when buying accounts, that would serve as proof of account transfer and he cant claim it back

If old buyer has a address staked, and it was not the one to send signed message I would guess it could still be taken back.

I have not heard of any situations of this happening. But if you stake a address with an account you should be able to recover it with help of mods and proving you own staked address.

So I would be careful as far as what address seller uses. I still would not suggest for anyone to buy an account.

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Quote from: Real14Hero on July 15, 2015, 09:00:16 AM

But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?

Please respond, I'm curious about this one.

No need to worry if the buyer have signed message from the seller when buying accounts, that would serve as proof of account transfer and he cant claim it back

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But what happen if the seller take back his account by proving the ownership of old address after sell the account to someone? Is it still possible right?

Please respond, I'm curious about this one.

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Quote from: ranochigo on July 14, 2015, 09:34:25 AM

Quote from: SebastianJu on July 13, 2015, 04:50:06 PM

Quote from: Xialla on July 10, 2015, 11:55:53 AM

Quote from: the juggler on July 07, 2015, 11:32:22 AM

I wanna buy an account and i wanna knw the kind of things i should watch out for when im buying a membership account on this forum

I will be simple scared to do something like this...reason is simple. you don't know, how many posts were deleted before deal, you don't know, how and where is account involved and there may be lot of misunderstandings in the future because of this.

another point is, that maybe you will have different opinions than original acc holder so you will not be able to express yourself and your ideas. it is like buying other identity for this board..is better to build your own with own acc.

Though when searching for the membername in bitcointalk it should become clear if something fishy happened with the account. I dont think its so very easy to scam with that when a buyer is investigating first. Mostly there are many interested persons and some of them will investigate and post their findings when they find bad things.

This won't work without an escrow however. Most sellers would not expose the account that they are selling to a third party which they don't trust, this reduces the value of the account and potentially get negative trust.

I agree. Some sellers show the accounts to interested persons but this is something only noobs are doing. The risk is high the account gets a negative for that.

I often escrowed account trades and before i secure an account i ask the buyer which things i should check with the account. So the only one knowing the account at this point is the seller and me.

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Quote from: notlist3d on July 09, 2015, 12:48:54 AM

I think it's very few legit account's that sale. Most that have been using for a long time really don't want to start over.

Personally I cannot imagine starting over and putting in a few more years. The amount of money the account brings vs signature campaign does not compute for a sale of a good long term account.

Most accounts sold I think are farmed. I could be wrong but I predict this. Or there was that hack it's hard to tell how many accounts came out of that.

i see what you mean. i don't see myself selling my account either.

but as i said not everyone on this forum is in a signature campaign. and i have seen people who want to sell their own account which was posting just for their own and not for any signature campaign. granted it is rare but they exist

i have seen somebody who was selling his account because he was not interested in bitcoin anymore and lost a lot of bitcoin gambling so left the forum.

p.s. and i think someone who wants to but an account for signature campaign should not care if it was farmed or not since he will do the same!

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Quote from: funtotry on July 15, 2015, 12:54:12 AM

Use escrow
If possible have escrow assess the account to see if the trust is there and the owner is not lying about the activity.
Check through the PM/post for suspicious activity
Make sure you dont pay too much for an account, check the average prices on hte marketplace
That should be it

Even with escrow you can still lose. You would really have to make escrow hold it for a extended period of time past when you get the account.

With leaked databases that were flooded on here a day ago from Cloudminr.io , chances are some accounts for sale will come from this. It is possible you buy an account and original owner comes back and want's it and can prove that they did own it before hack.

I really suggest people making and raising their own account. It takes time, but if you like bitcoin it should be fun.

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Use escrow
If possible have escrow assess the account to see if the trust is there and the owner is not lying about the activity.
Check through the PM/post for suspicious activity
Make sure you dont pay too much for an account, check the average prices on hte marketplace
That should be it

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This thread really make sense. Enjoyed reading it and learned a lot.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on July 13, 2015, 04:50:06 PM

Quote from: Xialla on July 10, 2015, 11:55:53 AM

Quote from: the juggler on July 07, 2015, 11:32:22 AM

I wanna buy an account and i wanna knw the kind of things i should watch out for when im buying a membership account on this forum

I will be simple scared to do something like this...reason is simple. you don't know, how many posts were deleted before deal, you don't know, how and where is account involved and there may be lot of misunderstandings in the future because of this.

another point is, that maybe you will have different opinions than original acc holder so you will not be able to express yourself and your ideas. it is like buying other identity for this board..is better to build your own with own acc.

Though when searching for the membername in bitcointalk it should become clear if something fishy happened with the account. I dont think its so very easy to scam with that when a buyer is investigating first. Mostly there are many interested persons and some of them will investigate and post their findings when they find bad things.

This won't work without an escrow however. Most sellers would not expose the account that they are selling to a third party which they don't trust, this reduces the value of the account and potentially get negative trust.

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Quote from: Xialla on July 10, 2015, 11:55:53 AM

Quote from: the juggler on July 07, 2015, 11:32:22 AM

I wanna buy an account and i wanna knw the kind of things i should watch out for when im buying a membership account on this forum

I will be simple scared to do something like this...reason is simple. you don't know, how many posts were deleted before deal, you don't know, how and where is account involved and there may be lot of misunderstandings in the future because of this.

another point is, that maybe you will have different opinions than original acc holder so you will not be able to express yourself and your ideas. it is like buying other identity for this board..is better to build your own with own acc.

Though when searching for the membername in bitcointalk it should become clear if something fishy happened with the account. I dont think its so very easy to scam with that when a buyer is investigating first. Mostly there are many interested persons and some of them will investigate and post their findings when they find bad things.

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Quote from: the juggler on July 07, 2015, 11:32:22 AM

I wanna buy an account and i wanna knw the kind of things i should watch out for when im buying a membership account on this forum

I will be simple scared to do something like this...reason is simple. you don't know, how many posts were deleted before deal, you don't know, how and where is account involved and there may be lot of misunderstandings in the future because of this.

another point is, that maybe you will have different opinions than original acc holder so you will not be able to express yourself and your ideas. it is like buying other identity for this board..is better to build your own with own acc.

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Quote from: gkv9 on July 09, 2015, 05:58:21 AM

Ownership: You should ask the seller to prove the ownership by signing a message for you...

Quality of Posts: The boards where the account made posts must not be off-topic mostly, and all should be constructive in order for you to be able to get accepted in a signature campaign, if you are buying one for the same regards...

Escrow: Never do any trade without having an escrow, I got scammed once and so advising you to strictly follow this rule...

I want to be quoted this kind words.
Btw. i tried to buy one account without signed message and holding escrow the money for a month but i didnt buy it.

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