Lol fuck you.
This is xt agenda of increasing blocksize and it wont happen.
There is no proofs, no data, no tests, no financial incentive, and no ´mass adoption' to support immédiate blocksize increase.
There is simply no problem.
Just you ignorant fudsters.
You Mad Bro? Go altcoin.
Good riddance.
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My only fear is that Bitcoin is torn apart by the very people who work to make it better..
I'm for core, as Hearn and Gavin seem a bit shady, and all we really need is just the block size increase.
Why a hard fork when there is only 1 problem???
I'm for core, as Hearn and Gavin seem a bit shady, and all we really need is just the block size increase.
Why a hard fork when there is only 1 problem???
there is already a patched xt version which only uses bigger blocks.
consensus rules vs client code vs private keys
that are three different things.
(imho i dont think any of the changes is shady; but everybody can use whatever they want. and miners (=pools) seems to run custom code anyway.)
My only fear is that Bitcoin is torn apart by the very people who work to make it better..
I'm for core, as Hearn and Gavin seem a bit shady, and all we really need is just the block size increase.
Why a hard fork when there is only 1 problem???
I'm for core, as Hearn and Gavin seem a bit shady, and all we really need is just the block size increase.
Why a hard fork when there is only 1 problem???
Core Supporters resort to BS excuses for why they aren't addressing an obvious compromise solution that would most likely kill XT.
Wrong. I'm promoting dynamic blocksizes as much as this stream of pro-XT effluent will allow, but it's not possible to work it into every reply and still appear a credible debater.
(note that many or most pro-XT'ers don't seem to understand that logic, they've been happy to completely subvert discourse in order to work their non-pertinent messages into it)
Good topic. At the end of the day - Core Supporters resort to BS excuses for why they aren't addressing an obvious compromise solution that would most likely kill XT. You'd get bigger block size, and Gavin/Mike would be left with no arguments except for focusing solely on the IP Tracking / Blacklist aspects of XT. Since that would be a weak political position - XT would most likely never reach 75%. Continuing to do nothing pretty much guarantees a succesful XT Fork.
To be honest, I don't even know what to think anymore about all of this debate. I have heard so many opinions, so many theories, so many FUD, and so many disinformations that my head spins at the moment and whenever I go to read through another thread.
It might be possible, that the best way to survive all this is to go and hide into the cave and just wait that everything ends. I mean, this is really getting ridiculous!
It might be possible, that the best way to survive all this is to go and hide into the cave and just wait that everything ends. I mean, this is really getting ridiculous!
If for the best of the coin the important developers and people behind it think only for this things poor us and poor bitcoin technology. They must be substituted and replaced with open mind people which think about the future of this wonderful technology and not about the money.
The technology is money.
Remind me why it is we should separate the technology from it's purpose? Be careful when opening your mind, your brain might fall out....
If there only the money invested that make disagreement about the XT this is not serious. For bitcoin are invested much much more millions. If for the best of the coin the important developers and people behind it think only for this things poor us and poor bitcoin technology. They must be substituted and replaced with open mind people which think about the future of this wonderful technology and not about the money.
I agree with op, core dev's need to pull their sh*t togeather. If they did their job in the first place, we wouldn't have xt debate at all.
Even if this xt is falling apart, there will be something similar within few months, no doubt about it.
Even if this xt is falling apart, there will be something similar within few months, no doubt about it.
This XT patch is literally and only BIP101 integrated in Core. It already exist and you are free to run it as we speak.
https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3hsc3f/bitcoinxt_with_just_the_patch_for_big_blocks_only/
https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3hsc3f/bitcoinxt_with_just_the_patch_for_big_blocks_only/
Oh? Whats this then?;
configure.ac Introduce the beginnings of anti-DoS resource scheduling. 17 days ago
Yep. This and this are both consensus critical and have nothing to do with BIP101 or big blocks, and yet are included in the "big-blocks-only" XT branch for some reason. I am not aware of any proper review of these patches (there is no official BIP AFAIK).
In other words, "big-blocks-only" XT is not "big blocks only". Instead it's BIP101+"resource-counting-hardfork" which both trigger using the same 75% voting method.
Instead, see https://github.com/mikehearn/bitcoinxt/tree/only-bigblocks here for a "pure" BIP101 implementation (does not include the above mentioned patches). However, this version will be consensus-incompatible with the "big-blocks-only" XT branch because it includes BIP101 but not the "resource-counting-hardfork". It could be a mess if one a sizable number of miners/nodes upgrade to one but not the other.
Increase the BlockSize on Core.
It's obvious. We all want to increase the block size. Virtually no one disagrees about that. We have consensus!
Agree, increase it because people want it. We must increase it.It's obvious. We all want to increase the block size. Virtually no one disagrees about that. We have consensus!
Yep. It's obvious an increase is needed.
When it becomes too large, that will be obvious too. Perhaps it's a good idea to pick a solution that allows for that possibility also?
Increase the BlockSize on Core.
It's obvious. We all want to increase the block size. Virtually no one disagrees about that. We have consensus!
Agree, increase it because people want it. We must increase it. It's obvious. We all want to increase the block size. Virtually no one disagrees about that. We have consensus!
I notice you don't dispute the fact there is zero propensity for lannwj to author an XT master. Why is that? 
Because I have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
I support this and NOT XT.
I think XT backers are taking people for block size change as pro XT. Seem to really be pushing this one point.
Correct, people don't seem to differentiate. Bip101 is NOT Bitcoin XT.
This XT patch is literally and only BIP101 integrated in Core. It already exist and you are free to run it as we speak.
https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3hsc3f/bitcoinxt_with_just_the_patch_for_big_blocks_only/
I was trying to get a grab of xtnodes.com to post before nobody_cares.gif. But, sadly, it's down. Again.
You know your shit is getting nuked from space when CloudFail can't protect you.
the point is always want, convince the other to have their consensus on what you want, and i'm not entirely sure tat anyone want to jump on the (MB train
I notice you don't dispute the fact there is zero propensity for lannwj to author an XT master. Why is that?
Because I have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
Not according to https://github.com/bitcoin it isn't.
Yawn...nap time. Wake me up when laanwj authors an XT master!
Yawn...nap time. Wake me up when laanwj authors an XT master!
Good luck to you sir, I wish you the best with all of that. May the consensus be with you.
Bitcoin's multi-billion dollar/multi-year consensus has always been with me.
You don't need to waste wishes pleading for status quo to exist.
I notice you don't dispute the fact there is zero propensity for lannwj to author an XT master. Why is that?
Not according to https://github.com/bitcoin it isn't.
Yawn...nap time. Wake me up when laanwj authors an XT master!
Yawn...nap time. Wake me up when laanwj authors an XT master!
Good luck to you sir, I wish you the best with all of that. May the consensus be with you.
XT is the default now
Not according to https://github.com/bitcoin it isn't.
Yawn...nap time. Wake me up when laanwj authors an XT master!
They have made moves, in the form of BIPs 100-104 and Lightning/Sidechains/Treechains. Project Apollo was not built in a day. We need to listen to the engineer and researcher Dilberts and Wallys, not the pointy-haired/headed bosses. Or this might happen again.
Core dev dudes have no power to force Bitcoin's multi-year, multi-billion-dollar socioeconomic majority to do anything. Especially not a contentious (ie potentially disastrous) hard fork (ie catastrophic consensus failure).
Ah yes, the contemporary classic 'Zomg, Bitcoin WILL LITERALLY DIEEE if it does not immediately conform to my preferences' conceit.
XT is the default now and you have to deal with that. Just wait around and do nothing, do not support an increase in the block size on core, spend all your time and energy bashing XT, then watch when the day comes when we get 2 million new users in a week as the network panics into a 75% majority voting for XT, also known as THE ONLY REALISTIC WAY TO INCREASE THE BLOCK SIZE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE!!!
A vote for no block size increase on Core is a vote for Bitcoin XT.
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Please, fuck off back to /r/bitcoin_unsensored, or /v/bitcoinxt, or whatever vapid social media site you prefer.
This forum is the vapid social media site I come from and prefer thank you.
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