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this will be minable?

You will be able to "mine" in the sense that you contribute calculation power (just as in the regular Bitcoin network) but you
do not get "newly created" coins but coins that others have paid in order to have their work solved/done.

So you will be able to "earn" (i think its fine to call it "mine") coins by using your computational power.

so we mine coins that are already in circulation? it's like trading our hash for the coin itself right? what is the algo?

Yes, there will be only a fixed number of coins in circulation. Those who "mine" earn those coins,
those who need computational power need to "spend their coins to the miners".

The algorithm is variable, and depends on what "those who need computational power" need to get solved.
There will be a video up shortly explaining all that.

cool seems like a sort of a multipool coin
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this will be minable?

You will be able to "mine" in the sense that you contribute calculation power (just as in the regular Bitcoin network) but you
do not get "newly created" coins but coins that others have paid in order to have their work solved/done.

So you will be able to "earn" (i think its fine to call it "mine") coins by using your computational power.

so we mine coins that are already in circulation? it's like trading our hash for the coin itself right? what is the algo?
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I still confusing.Sorry for my poor understanding,so i just send 0.1BTC to the Crowfunding adress for a test.Can anyone tell what to do next?
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this will be minable?
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Hi,sorry i have to ask some stupid question.
1.Can i use Blockchain.info wallet to crowfunding?
2.Is it just send the Bitcoin to the crowfunding adress?Do i need to do some extra action?
3.How can i get my crowfunding coin?
My English is my second language,so i need to ask you those question directly.

hi,

i asked those questions to "Evil-Knievel" last days, His answers;

1 and 2 .
u can use blockchain.info wallet for crowfunding. If u send btc with old wallet, you must use export feature for private key the account.. if u send btc beta wallet, u must do that

The Wallet Recovery Phrase should be fine.
Setting->Wallet->Wallet Recovery Phrase

You get a phrase of many words. This is enough, just write it down and keep it somewhere safe. The words are enough.

3.
Once the program is done there will be an importer, which can import blockchain.info backups, private keys, bitcoin core wallets, and everything else. The main thing is that the private key is there.

You are so nice!Thanks a lot!!!!
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Hi,sorry i have to ask some stupid question.
1.Can i use Blockchain.info wallet to crowfunding?
2.Is it just send the Bitcoin to the crowfunding adress?Do i need to do some extra action?
3.How can i get my crowfunding coin?
My English is my second language,so i need to ask you those question directly.

hi,

i asked those questions to "Evil-Knievel" last days, His answers;

1 and 2 .
u can use blockchain.info wallet for crowfunding. If u send btc with old wallet, you must use export feature for private key the account.. if u send btc beta wallet, u must do that

The Wallet Recovery Phrase should be fine.
Setting->Wallet->Wallet Recovery Phrase

You get a phrase of many words. This is enough, just write it down and keep it somewhere safe. The words are enough.

3.
Once the program is done there will be an importer, which can import blockchain.info backups, private keys, bitcoin core wallets, and everything else. The main thing is that the private key is there.
full member
Activity: 191
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Hi,sorry i have to ask some stupid question.
1.Can i use Blockchain.info wallet to crowfunding?
2.Is it just send the Bitcoin to the crowfunding adress?Do i need to do some extra action?
3.How can i get my crowfunding coin?
My English is my second language,so i need to ask you those question directly.
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Overall I think you are headed in the right direction.  This section I would rename - Overview - The Eastic System , or just - The Elastic System.  Try to use the same terminology, through out, task, work program, algorithm are all used to describe the same thing, task suddenly became work program, in this section.  I would split this section in to 4 paragraphs,  couple lines intro, describe buyer and seller, describe flow process, conclusion with 1 or two lines.  review work flow chart i dont see to3 or an arrow back to buyer for his answered work program.  I think you would want to introduce here in a couple of words how this work program is created but the buyer...and save the details for the next section.

after re-reading the intro I think it should be shortened a bit.  I would review the absrtact and introduction and begin using the term "Elastic System" from the beginning of the whitepaper.


again excuse the tablet typos.


legendary
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Great work ED!
Is the ICO going to end in around 190 days?
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changes to consider

para 1:  major driver  -  facilitating agent
               general idea - general objective
               in exchange for their.... -  in exchange for their resources contributed in the calculation of certain task.
               to solve their own task...  - to solve their submitted task (work packages)
                That is required so that... -  The escrow is required in the event a miner does not ...
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It looks like the diagram is missing to3, and there us no arrow back to the buyer for his answered algorithm.

i have some more sentence changes but it will ge a few hours, before i grit to them
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Regarding the intro, I think it would be better to go a bit deeper into the functions of distributed computing (scientific and economic). Another thing I would suggest for the project is to drop the 'Coin' or rebrand completely, by its concept this isn't another coin, but something in the ranks of ethereum/augur etc. so calling it a coin really devalues it, and hides it in the multitude of all the clonecoins.

Very good point, I have never looked at it this way.
If you have a particular idea in mind feel free to apply your changes to the introduction and post it for reviewing. Also feel free to attach some sort of affiliation/acknowledgement.
Otherwise I would first finish the rest on the paper and then start polishing the introduction.

Thank you very much for your suggestions for now.
I don't know enogh to be able to tell you what to add to the introduction, but I have some considerations.

Distributed computing dedicated to solve a single task is a virtual supercomputer, composed of many computers working together for a single purpose. Scientific projects harness the power of voulenteer computers to solve computational tasks, the scale of such virtual supercomputers is limited by beeing voulenteer projects, profitable cryptocurrencies on the other hand produce larger networks of computation, yet waste their power on competing for profit and can't be harnessed to solve useful tasks. Grid projects need to be made profitable to scale up and PoW needs to be made useful for arbitrary computational tasks, Elastic makes PoW useful, but grid projects now have to compete with the profitability of crypto mining. So if (I don't know how or if this is technically solved by Elastic) the use of blockchain can mitigate the vulnerability problem of malicious nodes producing false results in grid systems, this could make it even more difficult. Redundancy would be costly if some amount of power would be needed to form a consensus, so I think other mechanisms are needed. I think that costs will be the main problem of Elastic computing, usually grid projects are used precisely because of their low costs, but when its economic, any computing project will need to compete with crypto mining, this alone is a very significant problem for such projects and any additional costs only make it harder.

Also, arbitrariness enables recursivness, will it be possible to hire elastic network to attack elastic network?


As for the name, I think elastic, elasticity or any variation https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/elastic is cool, for the name of the coins or tokens, I'd just stay away from using the word token, as it now means something that serves as a temporary replacement. I personally prefer something that fits well with the name of the system and makes sense, for example elastic/elasticity.


First version of the FAA section (mainly, the description of the FAA)
Sources for the LaTeX document are in the github repository.




I found some grammatical errors:

aims for preventing = aims to prevent

on the safe sides = on the safe side


legendary
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Yup, I would have suggested to call this just "Elastix" (variant of "Elastics" as plural form of "Elastic")... But that name already is used by a popular Asterix-based PBX platform. Though telephony/VoIP is a different non-competing field, so probably the same name could be used here without implications.


I love your idea, but as you pointed out: I do not want to risk to get any legal trouble with present approaches.
But really, i love it  Wink

If you like the idea, it is is worth to investigate a feasibility of using that name, maybe later, when more important stuff is completed Smiley

One more unrelated input from me (hopefully useful) - the QR code shown on the crowdfunding page is either broken, or is really hard to read. My phone struggled for few minutes, and was not able to recognize it. I zoomed it in, inverted colors - no luck. I then just copied the address to first QR code generator website found by Google (http://www.qr-code-generator.com actually), made a QR code there, and my phone scanned it instantly without any problems.

So I suppose it is worth to check this QR code, and fix it, not to cause unnecessary strain on gadget-lover investors.. oh sorry - donators Smiley
legendary
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This  seems to be a well funded and well planned project I have never seen a coin that generate so much interest when it is still 144 days for a launch,this could be huge ,there will be excitement as it move to it's launching goodluck to your team will bookmarked this thread and see how it unfolds..
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I was thinking maybe something fun would be to call them "threads" instead of coins.  It might just be silly but there is kind of a fun double meaning because thread can be made of elastic and also threads of a processor.   Cheesy
legendary
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I would also drop the Coin and just name the project "Elastic"
and in the crowdfunding one can get "tokens" instead of coins.

[ELC] Elastic: A Revolutionary, Crypto-Driven Computation Cluster (weighted Crowdfunding)


Hadn't considered it before, but I think you are right. 'Elastic Coin' sounds like a generic crypto ... either just 'Elastic' or 'Elastic Cluster', or something similar does sound a bit more professional.


Yup, I would have suggested to call this just "Elastix" (variant of "Elastics" as plural form of "Elastic")... But that name already is used by a popular Asterix-based PBX platform. Though telephony/VoIP is a different non-competing field, so probably the same name could be used here without implications.
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