This might be a different approach to gambling? - page 7.

Runnert

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Quote from: leea-1334 on September 25, 2019, 05:43:58 AM

Zero house edge means you have to find a different way to make profit other than just hoping that gamblers lose at your casino! Of course, this usually happens anyway but you will get smart gamblers who make the most of 0 edge,,, especially when it comes to promotions (which is usually +EV anyway during promos even with house edge).

Only heads or tails, so this is PvP? That means site takes nothing for 0 house edge?

We don't see why we should do promotions? And why should we be making profit? I can help my neighbours for free can i? Not everyone is in it to make money.

Currently there is only head or tails, but we are playing to add more games in the future. And all those games will be PvP. Correct the site takes nothing, 0 house edge.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on September 25, 2019, 05:17:19 AM

Quote from: Runnert on September 24, 2019, 02:11:56 PM

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We appreciate all feedback and suggestions.

Quote from: Haunebu on September 25, 2019, 01:47:10 AM

Checked out the site and observed the following:

- Design is way too bland and you could have put more effort into making it look better.
- 1 confirmation deposit should be prioritized over 3 confirmation deposits since 3 confirmations tend to take a lot of time sometimes.
- Expected to find dice and only found heads or tails which is honestly not that appealing.
- How is this 0% house edge model feasible in the long run?

^ These are the fact that I want also to know but OP I think is very busy right now, did not online from the time he posted this thread. Upon looking at the site, all replies above were right. Very poor website and how could be impossible to get revenue if there is no house edge, it means it is only third party gambling site that has a feature of P2P? Let us just wait for the update by the OP.

Not everyone lives in the same time zone ;P But yes we are working constantly on improving the website.
We are not looking to earn revenue from it. And yes all our games wil become PvP. You could see us as a platfrom where people can play against each other without anyone interfering them, or a escrow between 2 player gambling online.

Runnert

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Quote from: carter34 on September 25, 2019, 04:21:54 AM

Nop... This site is far from being a beta. I think a lot of work has not been done here. The design is very dry , the forum too has to be colourful to attract discussion because colour is attracting to gamblers. Maybe, it wasn't suppose to be posted yet until it is at least 90% ready which will get visitors to be expecting a completion in their minds. Anyway, wish you well as you put the works in order.

Thank you for your feedback!

We saw it more as the beta of the idea/concept. We know the site is far from done yet. All design features we will add later on. We did post it on purpose without the site being 100% done, so we could work together with to community on improving the website in the way they see fit.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on September 25, 2019, 03:38:35 AM

It seems the OP has been busy to work on his site because he is come back and give more information related to his website. I visited on the site, and I look that the design is too simple and there is no advertisement or any catchy image. I think the OP should add an image on the site so people will have an interest and they will stay for a long time. As others said, I wonder how he can make a profit if he applies no house edge? In the FAQ section, I think he needs to explain about deposit and withdraw, and I hope he doesn't use KYC for the members.

We are working everyday to improve the site. Good point u made about the image but for now we think there is more important work to be done.
We are not looking to make profit in anyway. What did you find unclear about the deposit and withdraw system? And no we currently do not apply KYC, anonymity is a must for us. If we become licensed we will have to use the KYC law.

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Quote from: Haunebu on September 25, 2019, 01:47:10 AM

Checked out the site and observed the following:

- Design is way too bland and you could have put more effort into making it look better.
- 1 confirmation deposit should be prioritized over 3 confirmation deposits since 3 confirmations tend to take a lot of time sometimes.
- Expected to find dice and only found heads or tails which is honestly not that appealing.
- How is this 0% house edge model feasible in the long run?

Thank you for your feedback!

-We are currently working on improving the backend of the site, all visuals are just side tasks for now.
-We are well aware of that but we decided to go for the safe option for now.
-I understand where you are coming from, we plan to add more games and make the site more diverse in the future.
-It's not, and we have no problem with that.

Runnert

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Quote from: avikz on September 25, 2019, 01:08:43 AM

Quote from: Runnert on September 24, 2019, 02:11:56 PM

Dear Everyone,

We have been working on a free to use online casino with zero house egde! After weeks of building we are proud to announce to you we have launched our beta version. But please keep in mind this is only the beta and we will we be continuously working on this project. Make sure you check it out even if you are not an gambler! We appreciate all feedback and suggestions. gl hf
https://www.fifty-fifty.casino

Sincerely,

Fifty-Fifty

May I please ask, how do you plan to earn revenue? If there is no house edge, how do you pay for the hosting or other stuffs? Or is it just during the beta period? The concern that Darkstar raised, is very valid and that's the first thing came to my mind just after reading the announcement thread!

We made that announcement thread so our users know we are trying to be as transparent as possible.

We are not trying to earn any revenue from it. We pay hosting out of our own pocket and we are currently in a financial state that allows us to do so. And the site will be 100% free, without any house edge even after the beta.

Runnert

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Quote from: livingfree on September 24, 2019, 11:02:53 PM

Like what others concern, you need to show us that you can maintain the site without having any percentage of house edge. So, from the fees? from your own pocket? but how long?

We've seen old projects before that has this kind of feature too but in the long run, they've ended being quiet. I dunno know why, maybe they stopped already because they can't maintain their operation because of the promised 0% house edge.

We are able to fund hosting etc from our own pocket, and we don't mind doing it to give something to the community. We do all the development/coding and we enjoy doing it so that is also no issue.

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Gambling sites are business and its owners do spent out some cash from their wallets to launch up the site.
Zero house edge or no any other ways on profiting will always be a question on mind.We arent building a charity here just to have that aim on having
a fair gambling to everyone.lol

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Quote from: ReiMomo on September 24, 2019, 10:38:57 PM

No need to hurry in launching your gambling site, it needs more feature games that can lure gamblers to visit. Yet, the design is too simple and it is not attractive to gambler enthusiasts for sure. Because in P2P gambling platform need more players unless if you had using bot as their opponent. The suggestion above of mine is good to follow, having an affiliate program will help your gambling site more progressive.

We understand the site is too basic to be a proper gambling site as you guys know them. We will be working on making it more attractive.
But as of now we try to focus on the idea of this concept, and making it 100% safe and working in the back end of the site. We are currently not looking for fast progress, we want to be rock solid before expanding.

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the site looks verry simple! its under construction or something?

Runnert

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Quote from: crwth on September 24, 2019, 10:01:38 PM

Quote from: DarkStar_ on September 24, 2019, 06:57:03 PM

I'm worried that you're only method of turning a profit is by cheating on your heads and tails game - you know the server seed and know the opponent's client seed, so you can easily create a client seed that generates a win for you.

I'm quite confused right now because upon reading the website it's a PvP type of game. The most plausible way to have their profit if they give an advantage to your opponent and that said opponent is a player from the house. Right now there are a few people using the site so they need to use somebody to play in the site because they "do not support a bot-api." Even without a bot, you could decide on where you would give the win (generating a win to the favorable side) then profit from it.

That's just my take on the situation. No other way they could profit, no affiliates, ads, etc. Great initiative though.

Thank you for your feedback!

Please read our post above this one.

We are not looking to profit from it. You could see it as a charity organization.

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on September 24, 2019, 06:57:03 PM

What is your business model? From what I've seen, you don't seem to have any method of making a profit, since you don't take any rake. I'm worried that you're only method of turning a profit is by cheating on your heads and tails game - you know the server seed and know the opponent's client seed, so you can easily create a client seed that generates a win for you.

There is no business model. We build this website because we do not find it fair that casino's always win.

That is a really good point you made there, you might want to klik "please read more" on our home page where we explain a new system to prevent this from happening.
The only problem with that is: that both players have to be in the lobby simultaneously, and with a brand new website where there is almost no traffic this might become an issue. We wanted to add this later on(when there is enough traffic), but since you guys are really worried about that we started development right away. Please keep in mind that this function wont be as user friendly in the beginning as the way we do it now. Eventually we want all our games to use the SSB method.

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Quote from: dark08 on September 24, 2019, 06:16:36 PM

Quote from: Runnert on September 24, 2019, 02:11:56 PM

Dear Everyone,

We have been working on a free to use online casino with zero house egde! After weeks of building we are proud to announce to you we have launched our beta version. But please keep in mind this is only the beta and we will we be continuously working on this project. Make sure you check it out even if you are not an gambler! We appreciate all feedback and suggestions. gl hf
https://www.fifty-fifty.casino

Sincerely,

Fifty-Fifty

How can we assure that you have a zero house endge? Where you can get profit if you put your house endge into zero?
Upon visiting your website its look simple theres a lot of online casino with a lot of good features its better to make a good marketing strategy to bring more customer.

it's PvP and we are not able to take an edge of that. We don't want to make profit, and we don't see why we should?
I understand the site looks really stiff and simpel. We will be working on that in the future, thank you for your feedback.

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Zero house edge means you have to find a different way to make profit other than just hoping that gamblers lose at your casino! Of course, this usually happens anyway but you will get smart gamblers who make the most of 0 edge,,, especially when it comes to promotions (which is usually +EV anyway during promos even with house edge).

Only heads or tails, so this is PvP? That means site takes nothing for 0 house edge?

Runnert

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Quote from: TimeTeller on September 24, 2019, 06:08:42 PM

If you have 0% house edge, where will you get your income to sustain your presence?
And also, aside from the heads & tails, what other games are you going to have here?
Are you planning to get your gambling license also for this project?

There are no intentions to earn an income/revenue from the site, we have the resources to keep the site up and running.
So there is no need for any house edge. We see it more like our hobby to build this and to make something that never existed before.

We were thinking about adding PvP dice games, poker, sports-bets etc. But if you guys have any other ideas we are happy to hear you out.

Well right now we don't really feel like investing that much money into an gambling license. We can give our time and ofcourse pay for the hosting etc. If we reach an substantial amount of daily players we could always reconsider getting an license.

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Quote from: Runnert on September 24, 2019, 02:11:56 PM

~snip~
We appreciate all feedback and suggestions.

Quote from: Haunebu on September 25, 2019, 01:47:10 AM

Checked out the site and observed the following:

- Design is way too bland and you could have put more effort into making it look better.
- 1 confirmation deposit should be prioritized over 3 confirmation deposits since 3 confirmations tend to take a lot of time sometimes.
- Expected to find dice and only found heads or tails which is honestly not that appealing.
- How is this 0% house edge model feasible in the long run?

^ These are the fact that I want also to know but OP I think is very busy right now, did not online from the time he posted this thread. Upon looking at the site, all replies above were right. Very poor website and how could be impossible to get revenue if there is no house edge, it means it is only third party gambling site that has a feature of P2P? Let us just wait for the update by the OP.

carter34

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Nop... This site is far from being a beta. I think a lot of work has not been done here. The design is very dry , the forum too has to be colourful to attract discussion because colour is attracting to gamblers. Maybe, it wasn't suppose to be posted yet until it is at least 90% ready which will get visitors to be expecting a completion in their minds. Anyway, wish you well as you put the works in order.

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It seems the OP has been busy to work on his site because he is come back and give more information related to his website. I visited on the site, and I look that the design is too simple and there is no advertisement or any catchy image. I think the OP should add an image on the site so people will have an interest and they will stay for a long time. As others said, I wonder how he can make a profit if he applies no house edge? In the FAQ section, I think he needs to explain about deposit and withdraw, and I hope he doesn't use KYC for the members.

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Checked out the site and observed the following:

- Design is way too bland and you could have put more effort into making it look better.
- 1 confirmation deposit should be prioritized over 3 confirmation deposits since 3 confirmations tend to take a lot of time sometimes.
- Expected to find dice and only found heads or tails which is honestly not that appealing.
- How is this 0% house edge model feasible in the long run?

avikz

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Quote from: Runnert on September 24, 2019, 02:11:56 PM

Dear Everyone,

We have been working on a free to use online casino with zero house egde! After weeks of building we are proud to announce to you we have launched our beta version. But please keep in mind this is only the beta and we will we be continuously working on this project. Make sure you check it out even if you are not an gambler! We appreciate all feedback and suggestions. gl hf
https://www.fifty-fifty.casino

Sincerely,

Fifty-Fifty

May I please ask, how do you plan to earn revenue? If there is no house edge, how do you pay for the hosting or other stuffs? Or is it just during the beta period? The concern that Darkstar raised, is very valid and that's the first thing came to my mind just after reading the announcement thread!

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