Topic: This Smells Like Hypocrisy - page 6. (Read 1028 times)
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Actually, that can happen because in this case, the government makes policies or regulations regarding gambling. Of course, the government can determine which ones are included in gambling and which ones will not be included in gambling. So it's not surprising if it happened in Japan because maybe the Japanese government has some considerations as to why it's not against the law. Maybe this is because the government oversees the gambling game or maybe it's because this type of game has been around for a long time and has a huge fan base, including high-ranking officials from that government.
To me, this seems hypocritical. You claim that gambling is illegal, but you may bet on horse racing, Pachinko, bicycle racing, boat racing, and Mahjong, which baffles me. I do not seem to understand. Why is that so? You claim it is unlawful, yet wagering on games that are overseen by the government is not unlawful. Is this not hypocritical? What does the government fear?
Yes it's crazy that Japan has a ban on gambling and at the same time in all the major cities you have a huge gambling culture with the famous Pachinko slot machines. I am not really sure why Japan has that strict laws on gambling, they seem to have come in 1907 which is more than 100 years ago. To me the laws seem outdated and today it's clear that many people would like to gamble more freely. I was two times in Japan already and every time I visited a Pachinko it was packed with people. Like in any society there is some people who enjoy gambling, in Japan they have a restricted chance to gamble only for goodies and not money itself. This seems like a unnecessary step as there are still ways to exploit the system and the government is fully aware of it. It seems that the Liberal Democratic Party in Japan tries for more than 20 years to change the laws and allow big casinos to be opened up. Japan is a fast growing population with a lot of old people around, they are selling more diapers for old people than for babies. Maybe the government is afraid that older people would punish them if they legalise gambling again, or maybe the Japanese people got so used to the limited form of gambling they have that they don't want it to change anymore.
While it's always safe to abide by the rules of any country regarding gambling, we must think of the reasons why the Government chose some particular games over the rest. First, it'll be wrong to remove completely gambling in a country, looking at the way the article sounds, if left for them they'll ban gambling. Second, the two accepted games makes them more profits, by promoting their local games and keeping citizens and tourists entertained in the country. Lastly, no lottery games pays off 100%, some pay out 97% and take 3% of any game played using their machine. So, I'd say that despite how long you play using the lottery games, players will always lose money which will profit the Government. Even those that win big jackpots on the long run would bet the whole winning back into gambling. I think the Government wants to make more money from citizens through gambling at same time rescue addicted players too.
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Gambling in Japan is not black and white. In fact, gambling is considered a criminal offence and is generally banned across the country.
Those that are found gambling can face large fines and even serve jail time.
However, there are exceptions to this rule. Betting on horse racing and the lottery are two forms of gambling that are accepted in Japan.
Those that are found gambling can face large fines and even serve jail time.
However, there are exceptions to this rule. Betting on horse racing and the lottery are two forms of gambling that are accepted in Japan.
To me, this seems hypocritical. You claim that gambling is illegal, but you may bet on horse racing, Pachinko, bicycle racing, boat racing, and Mahjong, which baffles me. I do not seem to understand. Why is that so? You claim it is unlawful, yet wagering on games that are overseen by the government is not unlawful. Is this not hypocritical? What does the government fear?
https://gamblingnewsmagazine.com/gambling-in-japan/
There might be a huge reason for this. We all know that Japan is one of the most disciplined country, I guess they are just avoiding their people to get more involved with gambling, so they are limiting those activities where you can place your bets.
We never know, these lotteries are government owned and they are implementing charities from all the bets accumulated within the country, just like the lottery here in my country.
Let us just respect and understand, rules are rules and whether there's a fear or none, there's really no fear of the government. AFAIK, each prefecture has a different law or specific laws for activities and that's why for some cities it may not be allowed to gamble but for some the cities in Japan, it's allowed.
Though they said that it is for entertainment purposes I don't see a reason why other games are banned and those types of games are not.
Just as the other with history, it's possible that there's also a reason behind those bans and that's why they did that for some other type of gambling games. 
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To me, this seems hypocritical. You claim that gambling is illegal, but you may bet on horse racing, Pachinko, bicycle racing, boat racing, and Mahjong, which baffles me. I do not seem to understand. Why is that so? You claim it is unlawful, yet wagering on games that are overseen by the government is not unlawful. Is this not hypocritical? What does the government fear?
1.Lotteries are allowed in most countries in the world, even in the countries where gambling is banned. Nothing unusual here.
2.Wait what? There's horse racing in Japan? I never knew that the Japanese can gamble on horse racing.
I learned something new today.I guess that having a total ban over gambling would simply throw the entire gambling industry in the hands of the Japanese mob(Yakuza).
I've repeated multiple times that having strict regulation over gambling is way better than a total ban. Banning alcohol in the USA during the 20s and 30s didn't work.
Having one form of gambling allowed while others are banned might seem like a hypocrisy, but I guess that the Japanese lawmakers consider some forms of gambling to be less harmful(when it comes to falling into gambling addiction).
It is difficult to understand the reasoning from government law makers, if you do not know the background of each individual that took part in the process to make those laws.
In my country.... government controlled Lottery systems are legal, but all other forms of Lottery systems are illegal. The government have regulatory oversight over the national lottery and they benefit from the taxes that are generated and also the projects that are funded by the Lottery.
You will have to look at government projects that are funded by these industries to see why they might allow them to operate, because they are obviously getting something from this decision.
In my country.... government controlled Lottery systems are legal, but all other forms of Lottery systems are illegal. The government have regulatory oversight over the national lottery and they benefit from the taxes that are generated and also the projects that are funded by the Lottery.
You will have to look at government projects that are funded by these industries to see why they might allow them to operate, because they are obviously getting something from this decision.
Is this not hypocritical? What does the government fear?
There is fear when you have to answer somebody, governments has none to answer hence no fear.
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Why is that so? You claim it is unlawful, yet wagering on games that are overseen by the government is not unlawful.
Wikipedia answers, it's in order to increase the income of national and local governments as well as to offer a form of entertainment.
Gambling In Japan
To me, this seems hypocritical. You claim that gambling is illegal, but you may bet on horse racing, Pachinko, bicycle racing, boat racing, and Mahjong, which baffles me. I do not seem to understand. Why is that so? You claim it is unlawful, yet wagering on games that are overseen by the government is not unlawful. Is this not hypocritical? What does the government fear?
Although gambling is prohibited in many countries of the world, its use is constantly increasing day by day. The Japanese government has allowed gambling on a number of issues that were previously prevalent. They basically think that gambling as the source of entertainment. But I think this is just an official announcement. If you can see the real picture then certainly something different can be visible. A large amount of money used in gambling and also conducted in many prohibited countries today. The government does not have any information. But those governments are also quite aware that the gambling industry has considerable influenced by their citizen as well.
The moment I knew that Japan and gambling were a topic about bans, I knew horse racing would've been involved. I'm just guessing it's because it's pretty far from the general gambling games (though let's be real, ANY game can be used in any form of gambling) that most casinos are known for like poker. And from what I know, Horse Racing is really big in Japan as well.
Though I think if anyone were to find any sort of "solid" cause as to why they ain't really going to find any. The Japanese government just allows it, and that's that, it's in their jurisdiction anyway. It's not about what they "fear" as well, I guess at this point it's just they want to build up their own solid preference in terms of games used in gambling.
I am also shocked by this as they banned those other gambling games as they can be addictive but what Ive found reading and searching is that horse races have a long history for them so it means it is already their culture and they are doing this, the same with other games like a lottery as the government earn money from it for their country. Though they said that it is for entertainment purposes I don't see a reason why other games are banned and those types of games are not.
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Gambling in Japan is not black and white. In fact, gambling is considered a criminal offence and is generally banned across the country.
Those that are found gambling can face large fines and even serve jail time.
However, there are exceptions to this rule. Betting on horse racing and the lottery are two forms of gambling that are accepted in Japan.
Those that are found gambling can face large fines and even serve jail time.
However, there are exceptions to this rule. Betting on horse racing and the lottery are two forms of gambling that are accepted in Japan.
To me, this seems hypocritical. You claim that gambling is illegal, but you may bet on horse racing, Pachinko, bicycle racing, boat racing, and Mahjong, which baffles me. I do not seem to understand. Why is that so? You claim it is unlawful, yet wagering on games that are overseen by the government is not unlawful. Is this not hypocritical? What does the government fear?
https://gamblingnewsmagazine.com/gambling-in-japan/
Not only that, if they are serious about banning gambling then they should shut down the stock markets too because that’s the biggest casino in every country.
Gambling is always in our daily lives. Nobody can avoid it. Every choice we make has some gambling element inside because we can’t know the future but only can make predictions which is the basics of gambling.
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Aren't those sports and games that you mentioned served a huge part in Japan's culture?
That's what I thought, if it would be cultural.
As I see it, they seem to like and keep traditional gambling games. Ban those games that are not included in their history like card games but Plinko, dice, slots, and horse racing will stay as allowed games to gamble with.
But anyway, banning most of the gambling and allowing at least the lottery is not unique to Japan as far as I know. It's happened in the US too, at least in some states.
Like most of the time this is about the money, at a great deal of countries around the world lotteries are owned by the government as they are big money makers, it is just that at Japan it seems the government seems to have an even greater control of gambling than in other countries and they want to keep that monopoly for themselves, and I cannot blame them as the amount of money the gambling industry can generates is enormous.
I don't think the economic issue is exclusive. It is probably the main reason, but the thing about the lottery is that it has less risk of problem gambling.
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Gambling in Japan is not black and white. In fact, gambling is considered a criminal offence and is generally banned across the country.
Those that are found gambling can face large fines and even serve jail time.
However, there are exceptions to this rule. Betting on horse racing and the lottery are two forms of gambling that are accepted in Japan.
Those that are found gambling can face large fines and even serve jail time.
However, there are exceptions to this rule. Betting on horse racing and the lottery are two forms of gambling that are accepted in Japan.
To me, this seems hypocritical. You claim that gambling is illegal, but you may bet on horse racing, Pachinko, bicycle racing, boat racing, and Mahjong, which baffles me. I do not seem to understand. Why is that so? You claim it is unlawful, yet wagering on games that are overseen by the government is not unlawful. Is this not hypocritical? What does the government fear?
This is the reason why there is a saying: In every rule theres an exemption. There is an explanation why horse betting and lottery are accepted in Japan. It is possible that these two gambling may give the government income through taxes and fees. Besides these two gambling can be easily moderated or regulated by the government. Another thing is that horse racing is probably acknowledged by the Japanese government a cultural tradition since horse racing has been popular in Japan for centuries.
About other forms of betting that are rewarded by in-game currency, they are not considered gambling since the money exchanged is not for cash so they are considered legal.
- But it can still be considered gambling in the end, because there was a betting procedure. The only surprising thing is that there are so many gambling games, why did they make horse racing legitimate in their country?
Why, does this horse racing game bring so much revenue to the Japanese government that they only recognize it?
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Gambling in Japan is not black and white. In fact, gambling is considered a criminal offence and is generally banned across the country.
Those that are found gambling can face large fines and even serve jail time.
However, there are exceptions to this rule. Betting on horse racing and the lottery are two forms of gambling that are accepted in Japan.
Those that are found gambling can face large fines and even serve jail time.
However, there are exceptions to this rule. Betting on horse racing and the lottery are two forms of gambling that are accepted in Japan.
To me, this seems hypocritical. You claim that gambling is illegal, but you may bet on horse racing, Pachinko, bicycle racing, boat racing, and Mahjong, which baffles me. I do not seem to understand. Why is that so? You claim it is unlawful, yet wagering on games that are overseen by the government is not unlawful. Is this not hypocritical? What does the government fear?
https://gamblingnewsmagazine.com/gambling-in-japan/
If that's what the law said, better if we just have to accept it. There are some activities and happenings in other countries that we might see not good in our eyes. We don't understand their tradition and culture so we don't have the right to call their law referring to gambling hypocrisy.
It's a good thing that they still allowed some gambling and not totally making gambling illegal like in some countries where no gambling type is allowed to operate. I can't live in a country where gambling is totally illegal as that was boring.
It's a good thing that they still allowed some gambling and not totally making gambling illegal like in some countries where no gambling type is allowed to operate. I can't live in a country where gambling is totally illegal as that was boring.
Yeah, we have to respect the tradition and culture of the Japanese people. For outsiders this might look like a hypocrisy because they are allowing certain type of gambling. On the other hand the Japanese government might not see it like that, its more of giving their people some outlet to stay and have fun but at the same time not getting into the addiction like any other Asian nationalities.
So there are negative and positive of it, specially for tax purpose of their of government. It's hard to criticized them with this kind of laws, and in this data, shows that indeed even with this kind of regulation, there are still going to be widespread addiction.
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According to a 2017 survey by Japan’s Ministry of Health, Labor, and Welfare, 3.6% of Japanese adults—some 3.2 million people—are thought to suffer gambling addiction at some point in their life. This is startlingly high compared to rates in other industrialized nations like France and the Netherlands, where it is 1.2% and 1.9%, respectively.
The survey found that over the previous year, 0.8% of Japanese, some 700,000 people, exhibited behavior consistent with gambling addiction, and that addicts on average spent ¥58,000 a month on their affliction. It also named pachinko and slot machines as the most popular forms of wagering.
The survey found that over the previous year, 0.8% of Japanese, some 700,000 people, exhibited behavior consistent with gambling addiction, and that addicts on average spent ¥58,000 a month on their affliction. It also named pachinko and slot machines as the most popular forms of wagering.
https://www.nippon.com/en/currents/d00367/
If that's what the law said, better if we just have to accept it. There are some activities and happenings in other countries that we might see not good in our eyes. We don't understand their tradition and culture so we don't have the right to call their law referring to gambling hypocrisy.
It's a good thing that they still allowed some gambling and not totally making gambling illegal like in some countries where no gambling type is allowed to operate. I can't live in a country where gambling is totally illegal as that was boring.
It's a good thing that they still allowed some gambling and not totally making gambling illegal like in some countries where no gambling type is allowed to operate. I can't live in a country where gambling is totally illegal as that was boring.
To me, this seems hypocritical. You claim that gambling is illegal, but you may bet on horse racing, Pachinko, bicycle racing, boat racing, and Mahjong, which baffles me. I do not seem to understand. Why is that so? You claim it is unlawful, yet wagering on games that are overseen by the government is not unlawful. Is this not hypocritical? What does the government fear?
I'm not fully aware of how gambling works in Japan but I don't see any hypocrisy here. They are not totally the whole gambling as 100% illegal.
In a gambling-friendly country, there's always legal gambling and illegal gambling.
Obviously, those legal gambling should only be patronized by their citizens. Their country, their rules.
They all have the jurisdiction to ban to certain games that they don't like. There must be a cultural reason why only a few of them are allowed to be played and then the others are outright banned. Well, I don't want to dig deeper on it but soon I'll find out the reason personally when I get to fly there for a vacation and try those gambling places that are legally operating. I guess there's a certain reason for that and will end up with the conclusion that due to the usual reason, taxation.
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Gambling in Japan is not black and white. In fact, gambling is considered a criminal offence and is generally banned across the country.
Those that are found gambling can face large fines and even serve jail time.
However, there are exceptions to this rule. Betting on horse racing and the lottery are two forms of gambling that are accepted in Japan.
Those that are found gambling can face large fines and even serve jail time.
However, there are exceptions to this rule. Betting on horse racing and the lottery are two forms of gambling that are accepted in Japan.
To me, this seems hypocritical. You claim that gambling is illegal, but you may bet on horse racing, Pachinko, bicycle racing, boat racing, and Mahjong, which baffles me. I do not seem to understand. Why is that so? You claim it is unlawful, yet wagering on games that are overseen by the government is not unlawful. Is this not hypocritical? What does the government fear?
https://gamblingnewsmagazine.com/gambling-in-japan/
Japan is a very interesting country and some of its beliefs are quite hard to grasp.
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