Topic: Those who rent out signature space---Unite! - page 4. (Read 3987 times)
I know what you mean; I have heard there are a few scams out there regarding signature space rentals. I think after July 10 I'll see whether Luckybit actually pays out, and then maybe try turning my signature over to a couple of the affiliate programs I know about. See if that works.
Good luck with this. Lots of time people do start scammer threads when sig campaign sponsors don't pay but obviously by then the damage is done.
It looks like up/down bit may be a good chance to try and see if your proposal can get any traction.
I would actually be more worried about borderline spammers making scores of low value posts that essentially "drain" the sponsors bank compelling them to limit or end the campaign or so alienate users that they ignore all of us who have rented out our space. While sponsors should look out for themselves there are so many people in campaigns that they just impose limits or give up.
It looks like up/down bit may be a good chance to try and see if your proposal can get any traction.
I would actually be more worried about borderline spammers making scores of low value posts that essentially "drain" the sponsors bank compelling them to limit or end the campaign or so alienate users that they ignore all of us who have rented out our space. While sponsors should look out for themselves there are so many people in campaigns that they just impose limits or give up.
Never really realized that people paid for signature space. A interesting way to advertise for sure. What is the going rate about does anyone know?
Good luck with this. Lots of time people do start scammer threads when sig campaign sponsors don't pay but obviously by then the damage is done.
It looks like up/down bit may be a good chance to try and see if your proposal can get any traction.
I would actually be more worried about borderline spammers making scores of low value posts that essentially "drain" the sponsors bank compelling them to limit or end the campaign or so alienate users that they ignore all of us who have rented out our space. While sponsors should look out for themselves there are so many people in campaigns that they just impose limits or give up.
It looks like up/down bit may be a good chance to try and see if your proposal can get any traction.
I would actually be more worried about borderline spammers making scores of low value posts that essentially "drain" the sponsors bank compelling them to limit or end the campaign or so alienate users that they ignore all of us who have rented out our space. While sponsors should look out for themselves there are so many people in campaigns that they just impose limits or give up.
i'm with ya. after getting screwed by tradefortress and bitcoinsports.eu, i gave up on signature advertising for a while. minersource has been good so far, but i see what you mean with all the problems around updown.bt and xbtec.
My idea is basically to start a culture whereby when this kinda thing happens, all the campaigners drop the signature at the same moment. Let's call it the equivalent of a strike. So, for example, perhaps as a staring point, I'd suggest that when a campaigner who doesn't pay all the participants by 24hours past the time agreed upon, all the campaigners should immediately remove the signature until the campaigner settles the debt. If everyone acts in soldiarity, the campaigner would basically realize that he's not going to get away with any free advertizing, he needs to make everything right before anyone would be willing to bear his ad.
A stronger version of this, which I'm not 100% sure is a good idea, would be to place text over the ad which says "UNRESOLVED ISSUES WITH COMPANY X---DO NOT BUY". I think this would be a sort of extreme measure. Say after a campaigner has failed to rectify the debt for weeks and is not willing to negotiate to make it right.
i'm with ya. after getting screwed by tradefortress and bitcoinsports.eu, i gave up on signature advertising for a while. minersource has been good so far, but i see what you mean with all the problems around updown.bt and xbtec.
Hello folks,
I've been involed in a few signature ad campaigns of the past few years. By involved I mean that I've rented my signature space out. To be honest, the first few campaigns I was involved in were completely professional and there were no issues regarding payment, payment-ontime, etc. However, the last few campaigns I've been involved in have had serious issues. Either payments weren't done on time. Or they were done on time for some people but not for others. Or everyone was paid but some weren't paid in full.
In my opinion, those who rent out their signature need to stick together on this front. When a signature renter doesn't pay one of us in full, it's really a damage to all of us---that's because any of us might be the next one not to be paid. I'm not trying to organize an official union or monopolize the labor market or anything like that. However, I am thinking that there should be some basic "signature bearer's rights" and that signature campaigns who violate these rights for even a single individual in the campaign should basicially find their ad removed from all the campaigners by solidarity. I think this sort of thing would force folks renting signature space to be respectful and professional and to fulfill their contracts.
The opposite of this sort of solidarity is what I'm seeing a lot now. As soon as one person says "hey i didn't get paid" half of the newbies jump on him and say "well there must have ben some problem with your posts" or "well what did you do wrong" or "stop spreading FUD". In any case, if the person really did have something wrong, that's one thing. But I can reference specific incidents in a number of recent campaigns where folks left unsatisfied after basically bearing the ad in their signature for free.
I don't want to propose anything too concrete here, I just want to prompt discussion about solidarity among signature renters. My opinion is that would drive signature campaign advertizers to treat their contractees with professionalism and improve the market conditions for these contractees. What are your opinions?
I've been involed in a few signature ad campaigns of the past few years. By involved I mean that I've rented my signature space out. To be honest, the first few campaigns I was involved in were completely professional and there were no issues regarding payment, payment-ontime, etc. However, the last few campaigns I've been involved in have had serious issues. Either payments weren't done on time. Or they were done on time for some people but not for others. Or everyone was paid but some weren't paid in full.
In my opinion, those who rent out their signature need to stick together on this front. When a signature renter doesn't pay one of us in full, it's really a damage to all of us---that's because any of us might be the next one not to be paid. I'm not trying to organize an official union or monopolize the labor market or anything like that. However, I am thinking that there should be some basic "signature bearer's rights" and that signature campaigns who violate these rights for even a single individual in the campaign should basicially find their ad removed from all the campaigners by solidarity. I think this sort of thing would force folks renting signature space to be respectful and professional and to fulfill their contracts.
The opposite of this sort of solidarity is what I'm seeing a lot now. As soon as one person says "hey i didn't get paid" half of the newbies jump on him and say "well there must have ben some problem with your posts" or "well what did you do wrong" or "stop spreading FUD". In any case, if the person really did have something wrong, that's one thing. But I can reference specific incidents in a number of recent campaigns where folks left unsatisfied after basically bearing the ad in their signature for free.
I don't want to propose anything too concrete here, I just want to prompt discussion about solidarity among signature renters. My opinion is that would drive signature campaign advertizers to treat their contractees with professionalism and improve the market conditions for these contractees. What are your opinions?
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