Topic: Thoughts on Zcash? - page 59. (Read 123380 times)

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http://www.cnet.com/news/watch-paul-rudd-beat-stephen-hawking-at-quantum-chess/#!

https://blog.okturtles.com/2016/03/the-zcash-catch/

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You attack me alleging/implying that I am trying to generate sympathy (or that I am some weakling who wallows in self-pity). So I said if you walk in my shoes then maybe you would understand that being ill doesn't mean the person wants sympathy. In fact, what I wanted was to get well so I could code. Fuck why do I have to compensate for your very low IQ which causes you to not comprehend simple things. Stop dragging me into your retarded myopia.

You have no fucking idea what struggle I went through with my health. It wasn't self-pity asshole. It was a fucking hell that you will not understand until you have the same illness. I fought every damn day in herculean ways that you can't see. But don't worry, I am coming cured thanks to a miracle called oatmeal.

I didn't attack you in this thread. You attacked me. I responded rationally. You continue your nonsense myopia and attack me some more.


Dude you have no fucking clue. And I have no desire to teach you how ignorant you are. You are too stupid to understand what is really going on. I refuse to argue with an idiot.

I am not claiming any one else's work dumbass[1]. Try to learn how to read.

If you think Gregory Maxwell is trying to help you, then you are a dumb sucker who either can't read or can't understand the technical points (or can't click links).

I cover such a wide swath of technical information, you are inane to claim that I shouldn't use links to refer to what I have already written. What kind of total idiot would suggest that I should re-type all my posts into every post I make. Fucking retarded.

That is enough talk. STFU and I will too. There won't be any need for words on the other side of where this is all headed.

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And don't get so smug about my Zero Knowledge Transactions versus Shen-noether/Gmaxwell's RingCT. I will prove everything I claimed when I am ready. I love to make fools eat their shit. Consider that I might just be waiting for Monero to waste their time implementing a less efficient protocol. I offered to help them if they'd pay me something reasonable, instead they had Shen treat me condescendingly. I do not lose. Watch and learn how I deal with fucktards. You are playing checkers and I am playing 5D chess.

I wish that you recover. Praying for someone to get sick? New level of low, but I can understand why you are stuck there. Your arrogance knows no bounds.




Yet another looping reference. Why are you quoting gmaxwell's post, when I already posted that in my earlier post (and coincidently you also posted about it). I am just sick of you trying to take credit for someone else's work and pooping on progress made elsewhere which doesn't fit your agenda. You have been lying to yourself for so long, you have started believing in your own lies.

Makes sense, much more to think about.

You may not realize but I'm sure a lot of lurkers like myself appreciate your comments, concerns, and continued education into this realm.  You are on the right path, my only concern is the next big thing may not be the best option which often takes place on this planet.

One last time...


Damn glad I didn't accept your offer. I don't remember because so many people offered me money. I could have easily taken  $100,000 in angel investment, but I didn't. Because I don't need it. Yet Ethereum needed $15 million to produce nothing. And now needs more. I expect Zcash will need more than the $1 million they have.

Your overconfidence is perfect.


I will pray you get fatty liver disease so you can walk in my shoes (oh yeah you can't click a link ... how sad). Any way, it is coming cured finally. So now I can deal with you retards the way I have always done in the past before I got ill.


I could respond in more detail if I thought there was any benefit to doing so, but I'd rather let you continue with your overconfidence. Just a little note for you:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14023976

Trusting any centralized node is roughly akin to trusting a mixnet that has only one node. Timing attacks still apply. Trust that the node isn't compromised still applies.

When I tell people that I thought deeply for 3 years about all the ways anonymity could be achieved, they don't appreciate all the designs I contemplated while sitting on the sofa over the past 3 years.

I simplified the conclusion.

Oh I'm shaking. I will definitely partake in the zcash PnD when the BTC whales play it, and in fact hold onto some.

Your vaporware on the other hand? Will never happen anyways ....

I even told you I would fund your project more than an year ago, if only you could come up with a whitepaper (too lazy to find the post but its there in my history). All you can throw now is your own bile on gullible retards and drown in your own self-pity. Get some self respect. It means more than money.

Thanks for the response.  I too am not worried about government data collection however if this crypto takes off it will attract a whole new breed of scammers, hackers, etc... trying to take advantage of new users.  I am no IP expert however when it comes to masking your IP with while accessing crypto wouldn't a centralized web based wallet provide more anonymity?

For example, in BitShares the wallet keys stay local and we simply access a portal such as OpenLedger to get the blockchain.  If one were to use a VPN, Tor, whatever method you want to access OpenLedger is there anyway on the IP level a user could be tracked?  I'm not asking beyond the IP level as each chain has their own privacy issues with transactions etc...  This appears to be a better approach instead of running a full node locally?

Oh slapper I see you are just foaming at the mouth because of some personal hate for me.

I thought you were actually interested in documenting the facts and truth.

You are now on ignore.

Btw, I didn't realize that you are so handicapped that you can't click the mouse on a link. My pity for not being aware of the struggle/anguish you are going through. I thought I was in bad condition with fatty liver disease, but not being able to click the mouse pointer on links (or touch the screen on your mobile device) would really limit what someone could do with a computer these days. So sad. Hope you can find a cure.

Edit: watching these trolls get so offended by my successes is nothing compared to the joy I am going to get when I dominate with my vaporcoin in the actual user adoption market. Then who will they cry to, lol. slapper your days are numbered. Enjoy them while you can.

It's NOT vaporware, period. There is no spinning angle to it. Plenty of products can be delivered (and still be vaporware), while a project like zcash (which is not out of alpha yet) is still not a vaporware, with its active development, roadmap and their investors. They are not asking anyone to put a dime, are publishing research papers that most of the cryptography world learns from and are producing without blabbering on this board.

Also your post redirects to another post, in typical fashion or your loops of quoting your own posts and spamming multiple threads and generally unreadable.


Yah right, how come they didn't credit you? Where is your actual idea from 2013? Any source code/math/crypto to demonstrate any of your claims?

slapper I know there was a working version of Zerocash, so I know it is not entirely vaporware. I was just trying to be succinct.

They haven't yet shipped Zcash, is what I mean.

Yes those other concerns have been enumerated by myself upthread. Perhaps you did not read the thread.

What does my vaporware have to do with this   Stay on topic please.

Btw, see my post above 3 minutes before yours 

It's not vaporware. They are actively developing their alpha on their public git They are also contributing to ZKCP which is big news from today

https://bitcoincore.org/en/2016/02/26/zero-knowledge-contingent-payments-announcement/

The probems with zcash have nothing to do with vaporware but 1)trusted setup 2)their reward structure and 3) being a company. You need to stress on these instead of leading people down the wrong rabbit hole which can be easily countered by their source code. And countering the "vaporware" point will not get rid of the above 3 and some other problems.

Do you have source code available for your vaporware? Or a screenshot of your repo since you know people might steal your wonderful code?

Zcash team is advancing on finding other uses for zk-snarks:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14023257

I had already pointed out in my prior two posts in this thread, that hiding from the government is futile. And only Zcash can avoid the unreliability and non-End-to-End principled Tor/I2P mixnets which Monero and copycats require. I shouldn't have to worry about how my transaction is transported to the block chain in order to have my privacy 100% insured (except for the omniscient government).

Zcash is vaporware though.

zcash protocol is a latest version in a digital currency. It is just like a protocol. zerocash protocol has been considered one of the most trusted technologies for puting security back in the Bitcoin equation

Apology but I must correct you. Zcash/Zerocash/zk-snarks enable you to increase the anonymity set to every transaction ever done. This is why IP address correlation doesn't normally apply in Zcash, but does apply in these other technologies such as Cryptonote/Monero and copycats such as Bitshares/ShadowCash which limit the anonymity set to rings (and these rings can overlap and other means that they become unmasked via block chain analysis especially when combined with IP address correlation data).


The more insoluble problem is that scripting on a block chain destroys the security of the block chain, and besides PoS/DPoS is insecure.

Make sure you understand how fundamentally unavoidable/essential zk-snarks are.

Perhaps Tor/I2P are useful for privacy against those who don't have the data collection capabilities of the NSA. I don't know what those use cases are. If you are trying to hide from the government, I don't think Tor/I2P are sufficient. Governments will cooperate and share data on those who are avoiding goverment's absolute power of taxation and regulation.

I have stated in this thread that for corporations who will comply with government edicts yet otherwise want privacy, then they want a more reliable solution than depending on a network layer for IP address obfuscation. Remember that the fundamental End-to-End Principle of the internet says the ends should not rely on the performance of any particular network nodes in the middle (i.e. the network should be a fungible layer). I suspect (wild conjecture) Tor/I2P might fail 0.1 to 1% of the time (in terms of IP anonymity and/or performance).

Thus I have stated Zcash/Zerocash (zk-snarks) are a superior solution because IP address becomes more or less irrelevant (which is not the case for any other technology such as Bitcoin or Monero/Cryptonote).

I give up on hiding from the government. Can't be done. I am pursuing microtransactions as the way to fight back (the government can't tax every damn little thing that people do, because people don't want to track every damn little thing they do). You can say I am pursuing a new strategy of "hiding in plain sight".

For privacy, I prefer zk-snarks. Monero is available now, Zcash is not. I presume Monero could perhaps add zk-snarks in the future if they decide to.