You sure make a lot of assertions about "blockstreamers" x, y, z - but bitcoin is not blockstreamers.. so you are making little to no sense. My understanding is that there are various bitcoiners who are involve in blockstream, but blockstream is looking into ways to build on bitcoin.. and it is not bitcoin in itself.
Anyhow, your post seems to attribute a variety of matters to blockstreamers makes little sense, and seems to be an attempt to convolute matters and to claim something is other than it is in order to spread FUCD.
the reason being is because if you read all of this 99 page topic.. the blockstreamers themselves are presuming that blockstream is bitcoin.. and anything else involving people NOT on blockstream salary or not a blockstream religious sect must be an altcoin.. yet the hypocrisy and truth of it, is that blockstream itself are the altcoin developers..
even my last post pointed out the failings of a blockstreamer who is blindly presuming that segnet is bitcoin.. even when his own words are telling him that segnet is its own altcoin with its own genesis block. he still feels that segwit is a piece of perfection that is handling bitcoin transactions right this second perfectly....
the comedy moments about the blockstream hypocrisy is truly rib tickling hilarity.
if only blockstreamers opened their minds and stopped defending their altcoins and instead invested their passion and brains into the possibility that people who are NOT paid by blockstream may actually want bitcoin to grow ONCHAIN for the benefit of the community, then they would not be trying to suggest non-blockstream is an altcoiner.. and instead realise blockstream is the altcoiner.. as even you have realised this.
putting it to the bottom line
blockstreams idea is 5.7mb of data for approximately 7600tx capacity.
yet when anyone else said 4mb of data for 10,000 average capacity. blockstreamers threw a dummy out the pram
yet when anyone else said 2mb of data for 5,000 average capacity. blockstreamers threw another dummy out the pram