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Quote from: Joyawan13 on May 12, 2020, 05:33:41 AM

what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

Investing is for a long term and you have no control on it if you are going to have profit or loses. Trading for me is for a short term which you need to focus and watch the flow of value every time. You also have the control on it just to avoid loses. And sometimes it depends on a coin you are traded. Much better to select a valuable coin to trade like btc/usdt or btc/eth and have patience always. I think if you're going to focus on trading you can find strategy on how to gain and not to loss.

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The signals are really very unfortunate Following these the trade is getting tougher day by day It is much easier to trade when you can analyze the market and determine the exact price of the currency. Investing is much easier if you can understand the connection between the green and red lights of trading candles You have to try to learn something new by using your intellect.

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Stop trading only depending on the signal of different groups of telegrams and others.
Start trading by analyzing yourself. Before buying any coin, check the volume, candlestick confirmation, support resistance. If you have a position to buy, buy it, otherwise wait. If these are followed, the loss will be less.

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Quote from: rathaha10 on June 06, 2020, 04:46:57 PM

Well, it's almost thesame here and i know quite a lot of traders who are finding it difficult to make decent profit during this rather difficult time.

I am seeing people call the 6k mark as "difficult times" and now 9k mark as difficult. So which mark is "easy" for you? If you keep thinking like that no price will seem fit for your buying or selling and you will waste time thinking. Those who bought at low can sell at this time if they need money at hand. Price is not going down below 9k for 2weeks now.

This is where people got mixed up and confused by the current price situation. Some might say we're in a difficult position and some said we're In a good path of direction.
Those who said $9,000 is a difficult position for the investors, then It's safe to say that these people just missed a good entry point. And those who are worried If the price drop down to $6,000, then this people might be looking forward for a bull season, ignoring the fact that they can actually maximize the future profit by purchasing more fragments of Bitcoin while the price is still affordable.
Either way it's a win-win situation for the long term hodler with a long term perspective. This short term speculations and predictions doesn't matter anyway If you're aiming for a long term profit.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 24, 2020, 09:08:02 AM

At the moment the market is lateral, many affirm that it will rise due to the effect of FIAT money, due to the effect of Bitcoin's Halving, for trading right now it is best to know how to read the volume, that way you will have better criteria to when making decisions.

For the investment, it is best to do it and forget about it until a good time, time when you can take benefits. The difference between Trading and Investment is that the Investment needs to wait for a long time, and trading you must be aware of each movement of the market as you have chosen the timing, if you always trade at very low times, the probability of losing increases, because it doesn't give you time to react to volatility changes, which are usually abrupt.

Just on what i do read up on recent previous page where trading can really be considered investment they do only differ in terms of profitability and depending on what are the goals you do have set. In mention about profitability intensity then this will depend on how you do deal with things up.Some might go for longer terms and just decide to simply hold and some will like to trade or to see profits in shorter durations.
We might able to say its getting harder and harder depending on the current condition since there are lots of factors that do affect market movements and even on traditional business aspect.

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In another word, i will say not only trades and investments. Naturally, everything gets harder and harder and with the pandemic it keeps on going. This is why you need to find renewed confidence and continue to develop good trading traits. Continue to find new ways, methods and strategies to flourish as a trader irrespective of time

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Quote from: BuNga_cute on June 06, 2020, 01:25:46 PM

I do not agree trading and investment are getting harder and harder., because you do not have the capital or knowledge so say so.
In my opinion it is not too difficult to invest in crypto, we only need to buy coins at low prices and hold up to the target sale reached.

It's not always the same for every one of us. I feel it too mate, trading becomes harder because of the growing community. There is a significant growth in number of traders in the previous years making the prices more unstable than ever, you can literally see the prices moving unprecedentedly. Though buying low and selling is still the best strategy to use, you cannot guarantee your winnings with sticking on it, you need to come up with something new that can cope up with the market.

Quote from: BuNga_cute on June 06, 2020, 01:25:46 PM

Then for trading we must be smart at reading the market and can also apply risk management. If the matter can be done well, trading
or investment is easy to do. It can even be used as full time jobs.

I disagree on the latter words that you said. I can't imagine trading becoming a full time job, how can you do a sustaining profit every day? unless you're already rich so it would be nothing to you to lose $1000 in a day.

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At the moment the market is lateral, many affirm that it will rise due to the effect of FIAT money, due to the effect of Bitcoin's Halving, for trading right now it is best to know how to read the volume, that way you will have better criteria to when making decisions.

For the investment, it is best to do it and forget about it until a good time, time when you can take benefits. The difference between Trading and Investment is that the Investment needs to wait for a long time, and trading you must be aware of each movement of the market as you have chosen the timing, if you always trade at very low times, the probability of losing increases, because it doesn't give you time to react to volatility changes, which are usually abrupt.

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Quote from: rathaha10 on June 06, 2020, 04:46:57 PM

Well, it's almost thesame here and i know quite a lot of traders who are finding it difficult to make decent profit during this rather difficult time.

I am seeing people call the 6k mark as "difficult times" and now 9k mark as difficult. So which mark is "easy" for you? If you keep thinking like that no price will seem fit for your buying or selling and you will waste time thinking. Those who bought at low can sell at this time if they need money at hand. Price is not going down below 9k for 2weeks now.

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Well i kinda attributed it to the whole market downtrends we are currently facing, the bears is at large and trading is much profitable during bear conditions. Nonetheless, there are still some traders making it quite well but it's isn't comparable to when there is a bull market

The market is bullish now for reasons unknown to me. It would seem that the crisis wave should have continued but people are probably seeing it as an opportunity to buy more bitcoin and raising the price.

Thus it is a good time to sell if you wish to. Buy if the price drops to 8k or lower.

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Quote from: Joyawan13 on May 12, 2020, 05:33:41 AM

what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

Well, it's almost thesame here and i know quite a lot of traders who are finding it difficult to make decent profit during this rather difficult time. Well i kinda attributed it to the whole market downtrends we are currently facing, the bears is at large and trading is much profitable during bear conditions. Nonetheless, there are still some traders making it quite well but it's isn't comparable to when there is a bull market

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I do not agree trading and investment are getting harder and harder., because you do not have the capital or knowledge so say so.
In my opinion it is not too difficult to invest in crypto, we only need to buy coins at low prices and hold up to the target sale reached.
Then for trading we must be smart at reading the market and can also apply risk management. If the matter can be done well, trading
or investment is easy to do. It can even be used as full time jobs.

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Quote from: Joyawan13 on May 12, 2020, 05:33:41 AM

what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

You've got this mate...
I understand you want to improve and become beneficial to the market but don't get so explosive to think that trading will work smoothly and profitable all the time because it is not. Trading and investment will still work fine but the sad story is that people want to get instant returns, not even to wait for a few months to take it all and that it makes different and harder to bring those things right. Believe me, there is no magic in crypto that everything will work according to what you want.

A lot of things you have needed
*improve your skill,
*market understanding
*strategy
*keep patient

It will come into the moment that you cross that borders.

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It is still the same as it was whats making it hard are the scam and exchange being hack almost every time. because of bitcoin volatile nature, it is hard to predict so if your not a seasoned crypto trader I suggest you buy and hold or look for another altcoin to trade such as ETH and EOS.

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If Bitcoin were a stable currency it would be confined to one place like Fiat and it would be easier to make a profit We have to wait a long time for the Bitcoin crypto market to increase in price depending on investment and demand. But if the prices of cryptocurrency currencies go down then trade investment will be difficult Many will leave the crypto market for fear of losing.

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IMHO, trading and investing remains the same only our patience level got suppressed year after year.Basically we all want the price to become bullish all the time and more likely we are expecting the profits like year 2017 but it happens rarely but you can still make profits from your trading activities.Just look at the daily volatility range of bitcoin which is still showing good range and more stable in the resistance so its good time for traders to make money.

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Quote from: Joyawan13 on May 12, 2020, 05:33:41 AM

what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

Losing money into your investment is inevitable but somewhat can really be lessen or reduced depending into your own strategy and knowledge towards it. Not all days would be fruitful or do give out profits but if you are
already experiencing losing situation on severe manner then somethings wrong into your own handling of your investment + market becomes worst or just like that. They key here is that you dont easily give up and
find out solutions for you to be able to withstand on such crisis or problem of yours.If not then expect for more losses because you have already in mind with that kind of pressure and being too impatient.
Making money is just the same but not totally on high intense wayback in 2017.

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If it was that easy we would all be living in big villas and castles. Trade and investment is a business that is literally making your life a lot easier if you are doing it right while also keeping you incredibly busy. If you know what you are doing and you are great at it, you could turn thousands into millions in few years, that means you will never have to work again.

There is around 7 billion people in the world who has to find a way to live, some are elderly and have retirement plans, some are kids so their parents take care of them, some of them are spouses that do not work, but there is probably over 3-4 billion people who work. That means if you are a great trader, you will not have to work at all like those 3-4 billion people, think of how rare a thing we are talking about.

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Maybe you can take a break and re-assess your trading strategies. It might be addictive sometime if you are nothing gaining and you are still trading. there are trading demo you can play along with so that you learn more. This is one of them https://demo.hitbtc.com/. Also you need to be focused do not think you can do multi-task jobs with trading because it require devotion of your time and commitment. Finally do not set a bogus profit for yourself. It is better to have little profit rather than loss or nothing

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Quote from: samcrypto on May 18, 2020, 10:49:52 AM

Quote from: Joyawan13 on May 12, 2020, 05:33:41 AM

what I am experiencing right now is that it is difficult for me to obtain profits from investments and trade that I do, & is there someone here who has more effective ways for me to be able to improve my trade and investment so that I can get a profit of course, not vice versa I get is continuous loss.

Are you using the same strategies just like before?
For me, I’m still making profit especially when the price of bitcoin almost hit a $10k and goes dump a little after that. You have to be more strategic, it make not be as easy as possible but we can still earn money. Buy low and sell high is still good, just have enough patience in the market and don’t rush to your big profit.

Right! I do it this way also. In the difficult time like this when there's not a lot of big changes occur in the market, we have to lower our profit target per transaction. Don't set the target too high or you gonna face the risk to loose not only the profit but also your capital. The golden rule of buying low and selling high is still the same. The only thing different is how high should we sell!

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Quote from: abel1337 on May 16, 2020, 06:45:12 AM

This is damn true, I've seen many projects before that got a successful crowd sale and doing fine in their first year but ended up abandoning the project they are holding. It's, even more, harder to find a good investment today because of the crowd sale scams that are going around throughout the crypto community. Big investors lose their trust in crypto project development that's why some good projects don't get a chance to get their crowd sale fulfilled.

that's what makes investing so difficult, friend. however, many projects do the same pattern, after success, and list to several markets, they leave their project, and the worst is, because of its success, many try to follow the path they take, so many successful but disappointing projects. even for those who do research, sometimes they also get caught up in such investments.

Yeah, agree! However, it is the risk that we have to accept when we join the market. There's nothing easy these days. Making money is hard and you have to learn to make it somewhat easier. In this cryptocurrency market, besides having knowledge, skills, techniques, you need to have some lucks as well. I have to admit that doing research is the best way to reduce the risk, however, sometime it just doesn't completely helpful. By the time we invest, doing research is no more responsible for the risk that we face!

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