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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on January 18, 2023, 12:20:30 PM

Lol, nothing spiritual here if you ask me. Have you heard of the word persistent? Yes, so maybe those people are persistent.
There's a saying that goes - If you keep doing the same things, you will keep getting the same results. Maybe these traders like you said who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite
the effort they put to eradicating poverty are using the same trading strategy that is not working for them. Maybe they are unwilling to be open-minded and tryout a new trading strategy.
Anyways, if you are stuck in this loop, my candid advise is to stop trading for a couple of days. Use that time for self-reflection.

They have the wrong mindset when they get into trading, investing or whatever. Yes, they only expect profits without thinking about the losses they will receive. I don't deny that maybe everyone has the same goal in the end, namely profit, myself included. But I mean they don't think about the risks that go hand in hand in it.
Running it will not be as easy as seeing other people running it, meaning that there must be knowledge that we must learn beforehand. We also have to manage everything related to the things we do, for example financial management, risk management and so on.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

Everyone strategy of making money is different despite they are doing same business. Trading and investing does not grant your wealth but the methods you are using to do so, many people just started their crypto trading two years back and they are now living fine and some people 4 years and their still struggling in living comfortably because those who are living fine now were able to discovered unique aways of trading.and even for investors it all depend on what you invested will determine your profits. so, we don't expect all investors to have same standard of living because they are not investing same amount of money. Always know the higher you invest in good thing the higher you will make profit in that thing.

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Lol, nothing spiritual here if you ask me. Have you heard of the word persistent? Yes, so maybe those people are persistent.
There's a saying that goes - If you keep doing the same things, you will keep getting the same results. Maybe these traders like you said who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite
the effort they put to eradicating poverty are using the same trading strategy that is not working for them. Maybe they are unwilling to be open-minded and tryout a new trading strategy.
Anyways, if you are stuck in this loop, my candid advise is to stop trading for a couple of days. Use that time for self-reflection.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

We are all human beings in this world, but the ways in which we earn money are very different. You can't just start trading and become wealthy, though there are times when doing so will make you happy because you are making money, but most of the time you might feel like you made a mistake.
This is not the ideal strategy for someone to improve their financial situation if they continue to trade.

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Well, investing and speculating in the market are two very different processes for me, I think things should be separated and operated in a specific way, in my case I really like investing, obviously I put Bitcoin as the infallible option, not altcoins, because I don't trust altcoins and now less because the market is quite volatile, so for me the only thing I could put into investment is just Bitcoin, now to speculate in the market I like to do it with Bitcoin itself and with relatively strong currencies, with the altocins I see almost all of them as pump and dump, whichever way it is seen, it is the best way as I have discovered it.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on January 07, 2023, 06:16:42 AM

Spiritual forces has nothing to do with trading.

Any other mumbo jumbo for that instance. But there are a lot of reasons why people keep trying to connect these things in the era of science.

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If one is not making profits in trading it means the person still need to learn more about trading. Op just need to forget about that spiritual force mentality and understand the reality of trading and still have to putting in more effort to get more knowledge about trading. The only thing that can be as a result of loss is trading is lacking the important keys of trading that is always required to make profit.

We often make mistakes and overlook them while blaming others for the losses. If someone bought shitcoins instead of bitcoin then they are at fault. If someone bought at an all time high and now asking for profits in a bear market, they are at fault. These may seem simple but these are so common among newbie traders.

All that spiritual bullshit needs to be kept aside and simple method to buy low and sell high should be instituted. Make money from the selling difference, it is a simple math but does not get into your wee brains while still pondering over weed-induced spiritual highs that ruin your lives.

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Quote from: Awaklara on January 07, 2023, 09:05:27 AM

Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

something that changes our lives is hard work and consistency. in trading and investing there is nothing of the sort. if you are still losing in investing and trading, it means you do not have enough skills and knowledge.
the spiritual aspect that might make sense is when you start learning to be calmer in any situation. faced with no emotion and panic. maybe it would be more psychologically correct.

I dont see any connections about spiritual or something when it comes to this one which it is true that this would be more sort of on psychological aspects on which it do make you really think that it is really that

something wrong in this regard but it all matters on how you do make up trades.If it turns out that it is profitable or you do make money but still have that uncontented feeling
then it doesnt automatically connects out on spiritual aspects.

Its impossible that someone do still feel on being broke after the positive things that do happen into you.Unless if you are extremely greedy and isnt satisfied on what you are currently earning.

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Quote from: Awaklara on January 07, 2023, 09:05:27 AM

Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

something that changes our lives is hard work and consistency. in trading and investing there is nothing of the sort. if you are still losing in investing and trading, it means you do not have enough skills and knowledge.
the spiritual aspect that might make sense is when you start learning to be calmer in any situation. faced with no emotion and panic. maybe it would be more psychologically correct.

It is more likely to be emotional and mental not spiritual at all. Spiritual may only came in once we felt that we are wrong spending too much money and losing it in an instant or it is just like conscience. We should learn how to trade little by little so we will not have a problem when we hit sl, we should learn to limit ourselves and we should know that even in trading and investing there's no guarantee that it is 100% will give us ROI we should expect loses as well so that it will not bother us and make us frustrated.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

something that changes our lives is hard work and consistency. in trading and investing there is nothing of the sort. if you are still losing in investing and trading, it means you do not have enough skills and knowledge.
the spiritual aspect that might make sense is when you start learning to be calmer in any situation. faced with no emotion and panic. maybe it would be more psychologically correct.

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Quote from: Viscore on January 05, 2023, 06:45:59 PM

Spiritual aspects when it comes to trading and investing are just few points to consider

How are they few points to consider ? If we are trading with the fear of spiritual connection to the way we trade or the outcome of it then we may be tied to it and not put more effort to learn and get better. The market is not connected by just one person but by many buyers and sellers who don't know each other and our success rate depends on how smart we are in the analysis and market decision we take.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

There is no spiritual forces that's can hinder profit if the trader can actually trade. Perhaps those people who are your point of reference don't know exactly what they are doing.
I don't know how many traders you have come in contact with or how you come to this conclusion but what I do know is - there are many traders put there profiting from their trade.

Spiritual forces has nothing to do with trading. If one is not making profits in trading it means the person still need to learn more about trading. Op just need to forget about that spiritual force mentality and understand the reality of trading and still have to putting in more effort to get more knowledge about trading. The only thing that can be as a result of loss is trading is lacking the important keys of trading that is always required to make profit.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to eradicating poverty

They might be having some mental issue which could easily lead to mistakes. And trading emotionally in this situation has to be the main thing. And also those traders who don't have proper knowledge and education about trading could also make the same mistake. Hence, they still trade and invest but instead of making profit, they lose.
For this, I don't think there are any connection with spiritual problems.

It could also be that they are just lying, just as there are gamblers out there which are very vocal about their wins while they hide their losses, there are many traders that are like that too, so while we may have the impression they are making a fortune while they trade as they post about all the profits they have obtained, the truth is that their losses surpass by far those profits, so even if they try to sell themselves as successful traders the reality is nowhere near as optimistic as they try to make us believe.

Could be true and you need to understand that you can't become successful without loses. Profits and loss are both part of the system. But your profits have to be more than your loses.
And I think those who brags about their wins, they are just putting targets on their back. Why announce your personal life with others, have some privacy, man. And these days, we can't trust no one on the internet. Life has become so hard and we are still making it harder.

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People who believing into spiritual aspects in trading or investing are lacking in experiences; once you gather knowledge and experiences then you start believing into your skills by leaving off any kind of external factors.

I believe in spirituality in life but to say that someone who's good in trading and investing yet, not yet well with financial, there has nothing to do with spiritual about it. There are I know of spiritual law but it's not really connected to this.

I agree that it's about lacking of experience.

Don't know how to manage money, finances and someone might have just been from the lowest up to the top and then is having hard time on keeping up on what's happening to himself so, spending is like becoming a YOLO thing.

Spiritual aspects when it comes to trading and investing are just few points to consider, but it’s not really that significant. However, if you both trade and invest without knowledge, skills and experience, then you should not expect for it to be successful too. They can still be profitable for some time but definitely, those profits will not be sustainable.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

It does not mean that even if you go for investing and trading, you will already achieved utmost profits. Of course that will only be possible if you have decent skills and strategies in both of them, otherwise you will end up wasting your money because you are following the wrong patterns for investing and trading. Although there are also some inevitable circumstances, but if you only know how to combat them with your knowledge and skills, you will still win and make significant profits at the end of the day.

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Quote from: South Park on January 05, 2023, 05:57:55 PM

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to eradicating poverty

They might be having some mental issue which could easily lead to mistakes. And trading emotionally in this situation has to be the main thing. And also those traders who don't have proper knowledge and education about trading could also make the same mistake. Hence, they still trade and invest but instead of making profit, they lose.
For this, I don't think there are any connection with spiritual problems.

It could also be that they are just lying, just as there are gamblers out there which are very vocal about their wins while they hide their losses, there are many traders that are like that too, so while we may have the impression they are making a fortune while they trade as they post about all the profits they have obtained, the truth is that their losses surpass by far those profits, so even if they try to sell themselves as successful traders the reality is nowhere near as optimistic as they try to make us believe.

You are right on this one which is do really matches up on the reality that we are facing.There are people who are really that loves to brag out their positive results.Doesnt matter if you are involved on

gambling or trading which there are really those kind of people who do really love to show off but we dont really know on whats the story behind which same as you said that we dont know if their losses

is way more than on what they do have on their wins or profitable trades or in other means.So its really hard to believe if someone doesnt really get contented
if they are really on that profitable side.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to eradicating poverty

They might be having some mental issue which could easily lead to mistakes. And trading emotionally in this situation has to be the main thing. And also those traders who don't have proper knowledge and education about trading could also make the same mistake. Hence, they still trade and invest but instead of making profit, they lose.
For this, I don't think there are any connection with spiritual problems.

It could also be that they are just lying, just as there are gamblers out there which are very vocal about their wins while they hide their losses, there are many traders that are like that too, so while we may have the impression they are making a fortune while they trade as they post about all the profits they have obtained, the truth is that their losses surpass by far those profits, so even if they try to sell themselves as successful traders the reality is nowhere near as optimistic as they try to make us believe.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

There is no spiritual forces that's can hinder profit if the trader can actually trade. Perhaps those people who are your point of reference don't know exactly what they are doing.
I don't know how many traders you have come in contact with or how you come to this conclusion but what I do know is - there are many traders put there profiting from their trade.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to eradicating poverty

They might be having some mental issue which could easily lead to mistakes. And trading emotionally in this situation has to be the main thing. And also those traders who don't have proper knowledge and education about trading could also make the same mistake. Hence, they still trade and invest but instead of making profit, they lose.
For this, I don't think there are any connection with spiritual problems.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on January 04, 2023, 09:19:26 AM

Have you seen the movement of Bitcoin in the past 7 days past the lows of $16,408 and the highs of $16,886, didn't you overcome poverty in the past 7 days with a net income of $478, so how do you say trading has spiritual, curse and so on.

I think you yourself are experiencing spiritual, cursed on the basis of your lack of understanding in trading crypto. Suggestion: if you have small capital don't trade, long term investment is suitable for you to do, gather, collect and collect as much, when the time comes pick it up.

Its really hard to find your place in crypto and even if you can answer these questions, what you should do afterwards is still not that easy to see. I mean its such a terrible situation until you find it that you could lose so much money until you do, and this won't be a nice thing at all.

I believe for example that I am a long term holder who doesn't do it mindfully but basically just ignore the market, not a big ask considering all I have to do is not even look at what the price is, I have zero clue what the price is right now for example, I know it is somewhere around 17k range, a bit low or higher probably but that's all, no idea about the exact price at all. However, I still make profit, how? I just buy and hold and forget exactly like this.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on January 04, 2023, 11:59:38 AM

Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

Spiritual? If yes then people who spread the religion should be the rich but why business man and investors are rich!

Keep doing wrong doesn't make it right so if someone is losing despite their hard work then it's time to make changes in their strategy for traders as well as investors.

Successful traders succeed because of their skills and their religious and spiritual belief has nothing to do with it. No matter how religious you are, if you know nothing about trading, your faith won't make you earn any profit but if you are skilled and applying the right strategies and you are not disregarding continuous learning, you will surely succeed in it.
Trading will not make you succeed in the beginning. You have to go through losses to learn from your mistakes but no spiritual forces or any unseen entities are influencing your journey.

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