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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

People keep doing trading and investing but still don't know how to fix the mistake and make themselves better could be a reason why those traders are not gaining anything from their trading activities. Sure, each person have different time and effort to actually understand the situation of the market and it's not everyone's game but actually with research and listening to other people advice for reference and use it for better condition to you, it could be beneficial for those traders who are seeking to be better at trading. It's really hard of course but some of you could make it.

We cant be perfect
We cant be precise
We cant really be constant on making profits

But what we are targeting and aiming is on which to make out profits in the end of the day and this is why we are really that pursuing on doing trades.We know that trading isnt really that for all
on which there are people who are really be able to withstand and there are people who do easily surrender or give up.
On the time that you had reached up on being profitable or really doing good then i dont see for someone to be discontented with that and trying out to look
for another thing which it is really that somewhat impossible in that case.

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I'm not sure if you know what the purpose of investing is and how successful people are at making huge profits. You can't just hope that investors or anyone else will get rich with bitcoin overnight, and neither should most other altcoin.

You have to have a good trading strategy in order to make a profit, the same for investing. There is a wide choice of valuable and tradable assets on the market, but when you make the wrong choice you are more likely to lose than make a profit. Long-term investment and selling it on ATH is a good solution for you, so poverty is actually not inherited but you may fail to change your fate because of your own incompetence.

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poverty is not the dominant hereditary factor and wealth is the goal.
and all of that is the will, the commitment to change one's life to become more established or successful.

for me all the things traders have done to trade and invest with all commitments but have not become rich, it is just an ongoing process.
if a trader is able to keep that commitment and invest in the right crypto or coins, i am sure to find success and become rich.
as I have done in the past when I felt bored with all things trading and investing in crypto but I tried to keep the commitment to keep investing and in the end I met a bullish season and my assets became valuable.

so I conclude that there is no element of spiritual and hereditary.
because all of that requires process, IMO

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

Some traders actually lead very comfortable lives despite their persistent trading attitude. Perhaps the people you are referring to as constant traders who are still broke are losing money every day in trading and are perpetually broke because they lack adequate knowledge and background about crypto trading. On the other hand, they might be accumulating their profits and not want the general public to see how wealthy they are.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

This is too deep. If we're talking about spiritual beings, I'd say it's possible; if the spiritual forces want you to stay poor because that's your destiny, then it's possible, but there's a reason for it; while trading, you'll help poor people with your profit, you'll guide others when it comes to trading, and other instances because if you get rich, you won't be able to do it, so everything has a reason. If we talk without spirituality, then I would say you are the problem, as you can't manage your profit or your money well, which is why you are still not getting rich.

Well, I respect of what your belief guys but I think, trading is a pure skill and knowledge that we must obtain before entering such a decision.
Just people don't believe in luck because that is misfortune. The same for me, everything your decision relies on you there is no spiritual --there is no course in trading, the logic here is you must have the knowledge and it depends on you. Sometimes people greed will put them down and now, who is to blame for that?

Thank you for your respect. We are in a religious country, so we really have these kinds of thoughts, but that doesn't mean that if we lose a trade we will be blaming the spiritual beings; when we lose all day, we ain't blaming anyone; it just happens for a reason. This is also for us to maintain a positive attitude and move on from something. We also don't rely on our beliefs; we are just using them for motivation to continue, just as in trading, to continue to trade even if losing to strengthen the strategy and not rely on luck, as trading isn't about luck; it is more about experience and your strategy.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on December 08, 2022, 07:09:27 AM

Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

This is too deep. If we're talking about spiritual beings, I'd say it's possible; if the spiritual forces want you to stay poor because that's your destiny, then it's possible, but there's a reason for it; while trading, you'll help poor people with your profit, you'll guide others when it comes to trading, and other instances because if you get rich, you won't be able to do it, so everything has a reason. If we talk without spirituality, then I would say you are the problem, as you can't manage your profit or your money well, which is why you are still not getting rich.

Well, I respect of what your belief guys but I think, trading is a pure skill and knowledge that we must obtain before entering such a decision.
Just people don't believe in luck because that is misfortune. The same for me, everything your decision relies on you there is no spiritual --there is no course in trading, the logic here is you must have the knowledge and it depends on you. Sometimes people greed will put them down and now, who is to blame for that?

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

Trading is competing to other traders. You can only earn on trading if someone loses there money simply trading is just the transfer of money from impatient one to the patient that always get profit in the long term. Probably those who doesn’t get profit despite trading frequently are the one under the category of impatient on consistently giving there money to other traders through cut loss.

There’s now way that everyone one will be happy on trading on investing because this is not a charity but a competition on who will collect more using other people money. Trading is like a ponzi but the only difference was it doesn’t promise any sure profit but the design is same that user can get profit using other user funds that purchasing same assets.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

They still often make mistakes in analyzing so they can't make a profit yet. In addition, there is a potential for greed from their trading where I see that if someone can already see the profit, don't immediately close the trade and take the profit. They tend to want bigger profits so they keep waiting for the price to increase. But unfortunately, that only sometimes happens and makes them sell their coins at high prices too late. They would have made more profits if they could learn better and know when to close their trades.

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Quote from: hyudien on December 08, 2022, 08:34:09 AM

When logic is able to overcome things that are still within reach of reason, do you need to associate it with something taboo? Even in an increasingly sophisticated world you still think primitively. You have the right to associate it with spiritual things, but in a realm that is not accessible to reason.

Rightly said, I dont know why people keep thinking unscientifically in a world where technology is advancing like wildfire. I guess this is due to the lack of scientific temper among the common people or the effect of religious groups spewing BS on their followers and taking money from them in exchange for that BS.

Keeping that aside, we know that with practice any skill can be learnt and be refined. Trading is nothing different, once you get the hang of it there is nothing easier than that. What is tough is the patience that is required of the trader during the course of trading - for example you might buy at the low bear market but the market might not go bullish till the next six months.

Being in the middle of traders in a family might build up the similar mindset but this varies from person and is defenitely not something genetic.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

When logic is able to overcome things that are still within reach of reason, do you need to associate it with something taboo? Even in an increasingly sophisticated world you still think primitively. You have the right to associate it with spiritual things, but in a realm that is not accessible to reason. Regarding trade and investment, there are theories and these theories were created based on existing statistics. So while it can be defined and learned what you have to blame in investing is the way of thinking and the level of understanding that is still minimal.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

People keep doing trading and investing but still don't know how to fix the mistake and make themselves better could be a reason why those traders are not gaining anything from their trading activities. Sure, each person have different time and effort to actually understand the situation of the market and it's not everyone's game but actually with research and listening to other people advice for reference and use it for better condition to you, it could be beneficial for those traders who are seeking to be better at trading. It's really hard of course but some of you could make it.

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You are trying to answer why that's happening to them, and probably there's an easier way to deal with it: Don't think about it. Unless you are affected by it directly, or you are talking to yourself or referring to yourself in the third person, and you are the one who is trading and still manages to not profit at all in trading. Imagine blaming the heritage for yourself instead of doing something that would help you in the long run; that's sad.

There isn't a connection with the inheritance of poverty. Still, the attitude surrounding the person affects it, IMO The definition and the understanding of why it is what it is is just plain sadness. It will take a lot of work to act on and change.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

This is too deep. If we're talking about spiritual beings, I'd say it's possible; if the spiritual forces want you to stay poor because that's your destiny, then it's possible, but there's a reason for it; while trading, you'll help poor people with your profit, you'll guide others when it comes to trading, and other instances because if you get rich, you won't be able to do it, so everything has a reason. If we talk without spirituality, then I would say you are the problem, as you can't manage your profit or your money well, which is why you are still not getting rich.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

Not because you started trading doesn't mean that you will be rich. Not because you put too much effort on studying about trading, asking advices, paying for indicators, doesn't mean you will succeed on most of your trades. Trading is not compatible to everyone, you gotta know where you excel the most, where your skills are useful 100%, because if you'll force yourself in trading even though you can't see yourself being a successful trader, then whatever you'll do is useless.

"God gives mercy to those who help themselves" in short, ask God for his mercy to help us, and don't stop trying until you find the work that works for you.

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Quote from: bitcoindata21 on December 07, 2022, 07:48:43 AM

Imo investing and trading are all about psychology and strategy.

Well, that's lack of what it is all about. It also includes finances/money and that's why we want to trade because we either win or lose but mostly, we want to earn and make money out of it.

Quote from: bitcoindata21 on December 07, 2022, 07:48:43 AM

Intelligence might play a small part but it is not necessary.

That's part of decision making and strategizing so IMO, it's the biggest part and most necessary.

Quote from: bitcoindata21 on December 07, 2022, 07:48:43 AM

If you are the type who is good at solving problems you will probably produce a good strategy. The psychology part takes time and practice, aswell as life experience

And that includes the intelligence and that means that it contradicts from what you've said. But we do agree about taking time of practice which is common to have experience.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

Remaining consistent in terms of keep repeating the trading and investing?

No, they're committing a mistake or keep repeating it that is why they can't able to succeed consistent generally in the investment.

First of all they need to tick all the basics before becoming trader or investor which is other sources of income. If someone relies only on income source from their investment then sooner or later they will be broke in most cases.

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No curse, no spiritual matters but just all about how they manage their finances. That's it. There's no other reason why someone who's profitable yet still seems to be broke behind.
It's not about the money that you earn but all about how you're good at holding and spending the money that you get. There are people that don't earn that much but avoids being broke because they know their priorities and where and what to spend.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

Really hard to believe on or to say into those people who are consistent or making profits in trading or simply survive this market would really be having that kind of feeling.If i were into those feet or shoes into those

traders then why would really be not happy on what you had achieved or able to obtain? This has nothing to do with anything bullshit like spiritual forces or physical shit or whatsoever.

If you arent happy on what you are currently been dealing with then you should simply stop, but just like i do said earlier that it is really hard to believe on that someone who are
consistent on trading cant really be that happy because we know that person would be totally be that contented if he do really be able to make money consistently
specially into this unpredictable market.It is really just too impossible that you wont really be that happy on this case.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

If you have the thought and believe that a spiritual force or something is affecting you, you will steady be seeing reasons to support your speculation. Consistency in trading does not mean that you will make money in doing so, you can be consistently loosing money with the wrong approach and strategy, while some people who don't trade consistently but with a good strategy are benefiting because of their strategy. I don't think anything but your mentality is what is affecting you, change your mentality and improve your strategy and approach.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

This is mainly as a result of not having a proper plan before coming to invest/trade Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.
Every investor or trader out there should set its daily, weekly, monthly or yearly target / goal trading Bitcoin and cryptocurrency, so once your target is achieved, use those profits to solve your day to day needs, and maybe if large profit is achieved you should look into investing in other things like real estate, this will help you not get recked and go broke while investing and trading cryptos.

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