Trading and investing,and still very broke.why?Is it spiritual? - page 4.

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Quote from: Flexystar on December 17, 2022, 11:20:06 AM

Haha, seriously man you went down all the way to chromosomes. Nah, I don’t think so it works like that in the world of trading mate. If you really want to work then you will need to work as normal trader who knows how to do technical analysis and factual analysis through this market. I think those who are highly skilled in such areas will always be in the top list traders. After all this is game of talent and you can always acquire more skills by learning it with paid or free courses. I hope you understand trading is mathematical logic you have to have understand for perfect trade.

He did think way too deep and much lol

He just had no idea what he had to do just to be 'like them' a successful trader in frame .. which it's far from the reality , people tend to look at the case while actually inside of those 'successful trader' a lot of pain gained out of what people called as ' successful '
Speaking about spiritual thing , god might have us in each destiny but the searching of the destiny is all on our hands to handle , so get your ass out of cozy couch and start working hard.

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Quote from: South Park on December 16, 2022, 04:20:21 PM

Most people are not capable to manage success, an example of this are lottery winners, I think most of us would think that if a person wins tens of millions on the lottery that should be enough to last those winners a lifetime, but it is not true, those people find themselves in financial trouble as they begin to spend that money as if it is never going to run out, so people go broke despite earning a lot of money because once they get the money they have pursued for so long they do not know how to keep it.

It’s all about our mindset, some were able to changed their life completely thru that winning while some just for only few days since they thinks that it is okay to spend all since they only got it thru winning and it deserves to be enjoyed in everything they wanted, most of the stories I heard were just how fast they spend their winning and how generous they are in giving, but it could be different if our money came from hard work if we waited alot in that winning we sure set our mind on what we gonna do, or if it’s from our trading we keep strategizing or in our investment we sure have set plans for it to grow more.

And without a doubt you are right, those the get their money due to their luck or by an inheritance do not know how difficult it is to earn that money, which is why they end up squandering it, however the one that made that money by working hard and by managing their money responsibly knows how difficult it is to earn money and they will not waste it in stuff they do not need or want, so the mentality of the people is key and we have seen many examples of this on the past so we can demonstrate this is true.

For those amounts that been earned through inheritance or something not that they had worked hard then they wont really be mindful on how they would gonna spending it or on how they would really be gonna handling it, as long they do know that they do have tons of money then pretty sure the main thing on their mind is to spend up and buy all the things that they do want.
For those who are sensible towards their actions and been mindful about their future then this is where actions would really vary into each individual.
Trading isnt something thats for everyone on which there are ones who do get successful and there are ones who do really totally failed.

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Quote from: Wapfika on December 16, 2022, 04:50:17 PM

Quote from: South Park on December 16, 2022, 04:20:21 PM

Most people are not capable to manage success, an example of this are lottery winners, I think most of us would think that if a person wins tens of millions on the lottery that should be enough to last those winners a lifetime, but it is not true, those people find themselves in financial trouble as they begin to spend that money as if it is never going to run out, so people go broke despite earning a lot of money because once they get the money they have pursued for so long they do not know how to keep it.

It’s all about our mindset, some were able to changed their life completely thru that winning while some just for only few days since they thinks that it is okay to spend all since they only got it thru winning and it deserves to be enjoyed in everything they wanted, most of the stories I heard were just how fast they spend their winning and how generous they are in giving, but it could be different if our money came from hard work if we waited alot in that winning we sure set our mind on what we gonna do, or if it’s from our trading we keep strategizing or in our investment we sure have set plans for it to grow more.

And without a doubt you are right, those that get their money due to their luck or by an inheritance do not know how difficult it is to earn that money, which is why they end up squandering it, however the one that made that money by working hard and by managing their money responsibly knows how difficult it is to earn money and they will not waste it in stuff they do not need or want, so the mentality of the people is key and we have seen many examples of this on the past so we can demonstrate this is true.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

One thing you need to know is that investing or trading in crypto does not make one to be rich. If you are not getting profit in your trading that means you need to do some workings , to ensure you are doing the right thing. Trading and investing are always profitable but you need to follow the process and rules to earn profit. Their is no where it is written investing in crypto makes one to be rich. If trading makes you to go broke then you need knowledge to understand trading to go about it well.

Most noobs mindset is that they do really believe that this thing could really make them easily get rich through trading.Yes, it could be possible but thats not something simple that would really be happening.
It is really just that hard and lots of challenges that you would really be facing up along the way and its not something you do make yourself get profitable.On the time that you are already making profits
then its really impossible that you would really be having the emotion of being incomplete or something like that because most of people would really be that grateful
on the time that we do make money.I dont know about spiritual things but it doesnt really have any sense if we do try to connect it out.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 17, 2022, 04:17:07 PM

People are still broke and lose their money even though they are working hard and consistent with it probably because they are;
* not meant for the crypto world
* might their strategy are not working well but they still using it
* Please consider their emotions which could lead to bad decision-making

All of these things can badly affect the result of what you do. As long as you keep those bad habits in your life and never change it, nothing will happen and remain broken.

This crypto world belongs to everyone; no exception. So, every trader can be part of it but to stay as a trader, you need lots of preparation and without that if you keep trading then you may face only touch time with your capital rather than being a profitable trader by multiplying your capital.

Good strategy and emotion control kind of things are possible over experience which means you cannot be profitable from day one. But, I am sure that everyone is expecting that which is the core reason for not being successful in crypto trading as per my observation.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

People are still broke and lose their money even though they are working hard and consistent with it probably because they are;
* not meant for the crypto world
* might their strategy are not working well but they still using it
* Please consider their emotions which could lead to bad decision-making

All of these things can badly affect the result of what you do. As long as you keep those bad habits in your life and never change it, nothing will happen and remain broken.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

One thing you need to know is that investing or trading in crypto does not make one to be rich. If you are not getting profit in your trading that means you need to do some workings , to ensure you are doing the right thing. Trading and investing are always profitable but you need to follow the process and rules to earn profit. Their is no where it is written investing in crypto makes one to be rich. If trading makes you to go broke then you need knowledge to understand trading to go about it well.

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Haha, seriously man you went down all the way to chromosomes. Nah, I don’t think so it works like that in the world of trading mate. If you really want to work then you will need to work as normal trader who knows how to do technical analysis and factual analysis through this market. I think those who are highly skilled in such areas will always be in the top list traders. After all this is game of talent and you can always acquire more skills by learning it with paid or free courses. I hope you understand trading is mathematical logic you have to have understand for perfect trade.

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Quote from: South Park on December 16, 2022, 04:20:21 PM

Most people are not capable to manage success, an example of this are lottery winners, I think most of us would think that if a person wins tens of millions on the lottery that should be enough to last those winners a lifetime, but it is not true, those people find themselves in financial trouble as they begin to spend that money as if it is never going to run out, so people go broke despite earning a lot of money because once they get the money they have pursued for so long they do not know how to keep it.

It’s all about our mindset, some were able to changed their life completely thru that winning while some just for only few days since they thinks that it is okay to spend all since they only got it thru winning and it deserves to be enjoyed in everything they wanted, most of the stories I heard were just how fast they spend their winning and how generous they are in giving, but it could be different if our money came from hard work if we waited alot in that winning we sure set our mind on what we gonna do, or if it’s from our trading we keep strategizing or in our investment we sure have set plans for it to grow more.

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Quote from: michellee on December 11, 2022, 12:15:23 PM

It seems that luck has not been on their side so they have not been able to benefit from trading or investing. Or it could be because they haven't mastered how to trade or invest properly and correctly. There are many reasons for this and they need to look for it themselves until they find it. In trading or investing, we must understand what to do and not do it carelessly because it won't help and can even hinder us from making profits. They need to look for the cause and only those who can find it and work to fix it can finally turn a profit.

Most people are not capable to manage success, an example of this are lottery winners, I think most of us would think that if a person wins tens of millions on the lottery that should be enough to last those winners a lifetime, but it is not true, those people find themselves in financial trouble as they begin to spend that money as if it is never going to run out, so people go broke despite earning a lot of money because once they get the money they have pursued for so long they do not know how to keep it.

On the time that you had earned that much then you would really be not minding on how to allocate or budget it which is really that shouldnt really be done.I do see some people who do spend out their

money unwisely specially on the amount which they do really be able to gain up via lotteries or something from their investment or something like that.If you do find it hard to earn then you

would definitely be that mindful or sensible when it comes on how you would gonna spending it and minding that you would really be minding on how to make it grow
or make it bigger and make yourself sustain for further years to come.

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Quote from: michellee on December 11, 2022, 12:15:23 PM

It seems that luck has not been on their side so they have not been able to benefit from trading or investing. Or it could be because they haven't mastered how to trade or invest properly and correctly. There are many reasons for this and they need to look for it themselves until they find it. In trading or investing, we must understand what to do and not do it carelessly because it won't help and can even hinder us from making profits. They need to look for the cause and only those who can find it and work to fix it can finally turn a profit.

Most people are not capable to manage success, an example of this are lottery winners, I think most of us would think that if a person wins tens of millions on the lottery that should be enough to last those winners a lifetime, but it is not true, those people find themselves in financial trouble as they begin to spend that money as if it is never going to run out, so people go broke despite earning a lot of money because once they get the money they have pursued for so long they do not know how to keep it.

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Quote from: Viscore on December 11, 2022, 04:59:27 PM

Not certainly on spiritual aspects but more on physical, mental and emotional state of the investor or trader. If he starts investing without getting ready these physical, mental and emotional aspects, he will still be unsuccessful in all his attempts.

Being prepared to stay emotionally strong is more important for successful trading experiences; people do assume their swing in emotions is somehow related to spiritual things but in my opinion, that is understandable. We need to remember there are traders who live out of trading profits alone hence if we give enough efforts then we also could copy such traders which is basically spiritually and technically possible.

Quote from: harizen on December 11, 2022, 05:46:09 PM

Maybe they are facing financial problems and slowly solving those problems. Good thing that they are consistent in trading and investment as slowly but surely, they will soon be able to settle their respective financial problems and struggles and can now focus on making profits.

I must be another person who believes in your statements. Growth in trading definitely not possible in the beginning dates itself. We must keep hard working by understanding all the aspects of trading system. People need enough time to identify such aspects but unfortunately they start hunting for profits before that time itself which is part that leads to failure for most cases.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,

Maybe they are facing financial problems and slowly solving those problems. Good thing that they are consistent in trading and investment as slowly but surely, they will soon be able to settle their respective financial problems and struggles and can now focus on making profits.

- inability to properly organized the financial management,
- too much spending on unnecessary things thinking money can be earned easily because these people are good at trading or investing,
- lots of things that needed to spend and covered on a daily basis

Aside from that, there are other possible reasons that only they know why they end up still broke on the process.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

Not certainly on spiritual aspects but more on physical, mental and emotional state of the investor or trader. If he starts investing without getting ready these physical, mental and emotional aspects, he will still be unsuccessful in all his attempts. He should invest or trade not because of his greed on money, but he should invest because that’s what his passion is telling him so. He should trade because he knows he is already prepared in combatting the risks that trading has.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

Traders or investors who consistently do what they do is not guaranteed that they will become successful in a short time, they should keep consistent for long time and nothing know when they will become successful. It depends on effort and how much they learn. Never trade or invest with money that we borrow from people with its interest since it can make us more broke than before. It's not something like a gene from somebody but it's just how they handle trading and investing with their knowledge and their attitude.

I think success can also come early. A trader and investor can make a nice amount of money in a short period of time. That's an example of short-term success. For those who are into longer terms, maybe they are aiming for a bigger return of their capital. That is why they ignore trading their coins when the price have increased a little. Failures are expected in each journey but that is normal.

As long as one doesn't give up and be consistent on what they are trying to pursue then they can be successful. Trading and investing may involve spiritual aspects. We pray that we can do well. It also calms us down a bit if we are having a hard time.

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Quote from: martyns on December 07, 2022, 03:27:15 AM

I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

Only what you tend to believe do have the most effects on you. In believing, you tend to create the scenario and put the forces to its realisation in your subconscious and that could have a physical manifestation in your life.

Of course there are forces in the world that either acts for you or against you. It all depends on how you've been able to channel them to act.

Now, your putting in work to invest and trade but, your not getting the profits you desire or want. Don't you think the issues could be with your method, what ideas you approach the market with each time, there isn't any assurance to success in trade but your level of success depends on how well you've taken the time to invest in the rudiments of the field and what you are willing to get from it.

Am not saying these as a very successful trader or anything but, I don't think your path to being successful in this avenue is determined by others. The results in your life is mainly due to the choices you make towards change.

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I understand your question because I am from an eastern environment. There they believe that a person is destined in fate or in heaven to either be rich or to be poor, so if it is written that he is poor, he will not become rich no matter what he does. I think that's what you want to ask!

In any case, assuming that you are a believer in this belief, then you do not know what is written for you, rich or poor? Therefore, you have to learn to trade well, do everything that is required of you correctly, and wait for the results.

You can't keep blaming yourself and saying I'm a loser because I'm destined to always be poor! This is wrong behaviour.

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It seems that luck has not been on their side so they have not been able to benefit from trading or investing. Or it could be because they haven't mastered how to trade or invest properly and correctly. There are many reasons for this and they need to look for it themselves until they find it. In trading or investing, we must understand what to do and not do it carelessly because it won't help and can even hinder us from making profits. They need to look for the cause and only those who can find it and work to fix it can finally turn a profit.

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Continuous losses can really lead to disappointments and frustrations but that doesn't mean that there's a spiritual force that is pulling us down. Maybe you can check your trading and investing history so you could check your mistakes and try to correct them or try to apply better strategies that would work for you. Trading is a long process of learning and it couldn't make you rich instantly. Even successful traders have failed before and they also had losses. Sometimes you have to go through a series of losses but you always have to be mindful of it and always take lessons from your mistakes.

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I know how it feels because most of us have felt the same way. For most of the time, I lost in both trading and investing. But we should not expect too much when it comes to results. No promises or astronomical guaranteed returns whatsoever.

We just simply have to acknowledge and accept whatever results that we have at the end of the day. If we lose, charge it to experience and a lesson learned. Only spend what you can afford to lose and never quit your day job just to be a full time trader and/or investor.

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