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Quote from: AicecreaME on September 16, 2023, 06:15:02 AM

Both is profitable depending on how much effort you are willing to give to excel in either of the two.

Trading is a continuous stressor in my opinion especially if you're a beginner, since there's a lot things you should do to find the right things in your trading journey to make profits most of the time, while investment is also a stressor but not that much compare to trading. There's a lot of investment but I would always choose Bitcoin, less hassle for me than going for real estate, or stocks.

Stress is something that you may earn if you keep losing your position but if you convert that to a much better learning, it can be use as a tool to continue working with your potential, both trading and investment can bring you decent benefits, it's on your take whether to pick one or to do both and explore for your full potential to earn from both venue of investment.

More on how you take your chances and explore to maximize the benefits from both venues or to focus on one of it and try
to master the best practices for a better outcome.

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Quote from: macson on September 16, 2023, 03:06:43 PM

Since i got to know Bitcoin, i have noticed that the price will continue to fluctuate because of that i do both.. trading is not my basic but i continue to learn to be able to generate short and medium term profits from the trading activities that i do ^{(i trade 50% of the bitcoin assets that i have)}, while the remaining 50% of the bitcoin that i have, i invest for my long-term profits, i have heard many predictions from several experts that the price of bitcoin will reach $1 million, i am sure of that prediction lol.

As long as you can still do both in your own way, I think that's a pretty good thing and there won't be any problems as long as you're able to do it. Moreover, if you have never made a loss from the work you are doing, surely your enthusiasm for continuing to do this is still so great that you immediately believe what experts say about the price that Bitcoin will reach in the future. And sometimes I also believe what the experts say, but not for the price of $1 million for one unit of Bitcoin because logically that will not be possible in the near future or in the next market cycle.

Trading and investing are things that can be done simultaneously, it will not cause any problems with both.
However, what must be realized is that both have different risks with different levels of possible profits and different patterns or techniques between trading and investing.

In trading, losses are normal, especially in the Crypto market which has very fast movements so it is possible for us to make losses or profits in a short time.
There is a lot of knowledge and knowledge needed in trading, which is different from investing.
So if someone does both of these things then it is someone who has extensive knowledge.

However, regarding speculation that the price of Bitcoin will reach $1 million, I agree with you that it will not happen in the near future, maybe I have the same belief but that is in the long term in the future.

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Quote from: macson on September 16, 2023, 03:06:43 PM

Since i got to know Bitcoin, i have noticed that the price will continue to fluctuate because of that i do both.. trading is not my basic but i continue to learn to be able to generate short and medium term profits from the trading activities that i do ^{(i trade 50% of the bitcoin assets that i have)}, while the remaining 50% of the bitcoin that i have, i invest for my long-term profits, i have heard many predictions from several experts that the price of bitcoin will reach $1 million, i am sure of that prediction lol.

50% in trading mate? meaning you use the 50% to buy and sell bitcoin and the other 50% is to HODL in bitcoin?
aren't you using those 50% in altcoin trading since those are the easy moving coins?
Mine is indeed 50% in bitcoins but the other 50% is used for altcoin holding also, my trading skills are limited and
I don't wanna try my luck so much , so I would rather buy and Hold bitcoin and altcoins than to use in daytrading?

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Quote from: Out of mind on September 16, 2023, 08:23:21 PM

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Well said, I also prefer investment over trading because trading is not for everyone. Even then I also agree that trading was also is an investment. If someone invests a small amount of Bitcoin during the bull run, we can expect quite a lot of profit from him. But if one invests small amount of capital in trading, it can be profitable and all can be lost. But I will not say that trading is bad, trading is definitely good for those who are very experienced. And for inexperienced people, I will say that investment is most useful. Because in many cases when it comes to learning to trade, some technical complications are more than others.

what do you mean by Investment? is that what we called Holding?

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Quote from: macson on September 16, 2023, 03:06:43 PM

Since i got to know Bitcoin, i have noticed that the price will continue to fluctuate because of that i do both.. trading is not my basic but i continue to learn to be able to generate short and medium term profits from the trading activities that i do ^{(i trade 50% of the bitcoin assets that i have)}, while the remaining 50% of the bitcoin that i have, i invest for my long-term profits, i have heard many predictions from several experts that the price of bitcoin will reach $1 million, i am sure of that prediction lol.

As long as you can still do both in your own way, I think that's a pretty good thing and there won't be any problems as long as you're able to do it. Moreover, if you have never made a loss from the work you are doing, surely your enthusiasm for continuing to do this is still so great that you immediately believe what experts say about the price that Bitcoin will reach in the future. And sometimes I also believe what the experts say, but not for the price of $1 million for one unit of Bitcoin because logically that will not be possible in the near future or in the next market cycle.

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Quote from: |MINER| on September 17, 2023, 12:07:25 AM

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Well said, I also prefer investment over trading because trading is not for everyone. Even then I also agree that trading was also is an investment. If someone invests a small amount of Bitcoin during the bull run, we can expect quite a lot of profit from him. But if one invests small amount of capital in trading, it can be profitable and all can be lost. But I will not say that trading is bad, trading is definitely good for those who are very experienced. And for inexperienced people, I will say that investment is most useful. Because in many cases when it comes to learning to trade, some technical complications are more than others.

I also had the same thought that investment would be my choice. Trading for me has more risk than investing, and realistically I want to minimize that risk. It's not that I'm afraid, but if there are two options that have benefits but different risks, of course I would prefer the smaller risk.
Maybe in taking profits, investment is much longer than trading, but again it is worth the risk we have to bear. Investing is also easier to do, especially we invest in bitcoin, in short we only need to hold until we can take profits. Whereas in trading maybe our balance will run out in a few minutes if we do the wrong analysis.

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Quote from: Out of mind on September 16, 2023, 08:23:21 PM

If I see between trading and investing, I will definitely invest. Why and trading is a big trader who has a big business, they will trade only bitcoin and different for convenience. But a person can invest when he has some knowledge about crypto. I will always choose to invest, as the investment is likely to yield huge profits and future bitcoin or cryptocurrency has the potential to do well. I think about investing before I think about trading, and investing is what I love the most. Because one's money is at risk when trading without good experience in trading, that's why it is not possible to trade whenever a person does not have good knowledge. But when a person invests and keeps his money then he is not at risk, but he can get good profit in future and earn from it.

You have pointed out a good thing, that is why whale traders have big business.
In my opinion, I think that in a business the start up will create for your future those feelings couldn't be found on trading. If you want a big success in your life then you have to work on those type things it's mean those startup, where you will get continuous earning even then if you aren't there. If you are looking at those giant businessmen their journey starts with hard work but now they can easily earn an amount by just sitting on a chair.
If I say about myself I have a planning a business from making profit from trading and also others ways where I have earning. Now here is one more thing that I want to say as an example, suppose you are sick for a few days then what will happen to your trading situation, but if you can run a business in a successful state, you can earn money even when you are sick. .

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Quote from: Out of mind on September 16, 2023, 08:23:21 PM

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Well said, I also prefer investment over trading because trading is not for everyone. Even then I also agree that trading was also is an investment. If someone invests a small amount of Bitcoin during the bull run, we can expect quite a lot of profit from him. But if one invests small amount of capital in trading, it can be profitable and all can be lost. But I will not say that trading is bad, trading is definitely good for those who are very experienced. And for inexperienced people, I will say that investment is most useful. Because in many cases when it comes to learning to trade, some technical complications are more than others.

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If I see between trading and investing, I will definitely invest. Why and trading is a big trader who has a big business, they will trade only bitcoin and different for convenience. But a person can invest when he has some knowledge about crypto. I will always choose to invest, as the investment is likely to yield huge profits and future bitcoin or cryptocurrency has the potential to do well. I think about investing before I think about trading, and investing is what I love the most. Because one's money is at risk when trading without good experience in trading, that's why it is not possible to trade whenever a person does not have good knowledge. But when a person invests and keeps his money then he is not at risk, but he can get good profit in future and earn from it.

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Quote from: macson on September 16, 2023, 03:06:43 PM

Since i got to know Bitcoin, i have noticed that the price will continue to fluctuate because of that i do both.. trading is not my basic but i continue to learn to be able to generate short and medium term profits from the trading activities that i do ^{(i trade 50% of the bitcoin assets that i have)}, while the remaining 50% of the bitcoin that i have, i invest for my long-term profits, i have heard many predictions from several experts that the price of bitcoin will reach $1 million, i am sure of that prediction lol.

It is a good decision to invest 50% of the Bitcoin you have for the long term because it will be needed later and we will see a surge in Bitcoin next year when the Halving will happen. The new ATH is the most anticipated target for all long-term investors.

When you are trading and investing it is a good way to go.
It is not easy to start trading at first.
You have to understand how the crypto market works because of the high volatility.

Short, medium, or long-term can be chosen whichever suits you.
Short-term will give you quick profits but also give you quick losses, depending on how you manage and understand the market well.

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Since i got to know Bitcoin, i have noticed that the price will continue to fluctuate because of that i do both.. trading is not my basic but i continue to learn to be able to generate short and medium term profits from the trading activities that i do ^{(i trade 50% of the bitcoin assets that i have)}, while the remaining 50% of the bitcoin that i have, i invest for my long-term profits, i have heard many predictions from several experts that the price of bitcoin will reach $1 million, i am sure of that prediction lol.

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Quote from: rozak on September 15, 2023, 08:54:41 PM

more people may be more active in doing both. but have you ever seen anyone think they are only lucky in one area? Everything can be learned, but sometimes people feel that they are more fortunate in a particular field when they have tried two or more times in doing something.
Likewise with investment or trading. people may be able to do both, but sometimes they always fail in investing and on the contrary always profit in trading. Or maybe on the contrary there are those who always fail in trading but profit in investing. So maybe that's the reason why there are people who don't do both.

This is the perfect thing which I also examine that everyone cannot be profitable in every field and the major concern is about the strategies, learning, knowledge and interest in selected field. People are not interested in investment in most of the cases because they are in search of quick profit which is not easy with investment.

Some people on the other hand are not interested in trading due to the quick decision, timing consuming and presence of high risk. People often think about their profit and if they find anything profitable then they will try to learn about that because no one will create any idea about unprofitable business learning.

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Quote from: JamesBorn on April 27, 2023, 02:45:25 PM

Trading can be seen as a form of investing, but I'll choose investing for now since I don't have strong technical skills in trading. On the other hand, I find investing worth exploring, possibly something I could enjoy.

Regarding Bitcoin's worst experience, for me, it's the occasionally extremely high transaction fees.

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Quote from: edy_58 on September 15, 2023, 10:54:38 PM

There are many things that need to be understood before we start trading or investing. If we don't really understand both of them, it's a good idea for us to choose which area we are good at so that if we do, we don't experience big losses. If we understand these two things, it will certainly benefit us a lot do both of these things.

It is not that complicated to understand both if we want to try to understand both well enough. For example, if you want to trade, you only need to make sure you buy at a low price and sell at a high price in a cryptocurrency or several cryptocurrencies. Meanwhile, for investment, you just need to make sure the asset you invest in is really good and very well known, as in the example of Bitcoin. So it's not that complicated to understand both of them, although everyone really needs precision and patience when carrying out these two things now.

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Both is profitable depending on how much effort you are willing to give to excel in either of the two.

Trading is a continuous stressor in my opinion especially if you're a beginner, since there's a lot things you should do to find the right things in your trading journey to make profits most of the time, while investment is also a stressor but not that much compare to trading. There's a lot of investment but I would always choose Bitcoin, less hassle for me than going for real estate, or stocks.

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Quote from: rozak on September 15, 2023, 08:54:41 PM

more people may be more active in doing both. but have you ever seen anyone think they are only lucky in one area? Everything can be learned, but sometimes people feel that they are more fortunate in a particular field when they have tried two or more times in doing something.
Likewise with investment or trading. people may be able to do both, but sometimes they always fail in investing and on the contrary always profit in trading. Or maybe on the contrary there are those who always fail in trading but profit in investing. So maybe that's the reason why there are people who don't do both.

There are many things that need to be understood before we start trading or investing. If we don't really understand both of them, it's a good idea for us to choose which area we are good at so that if we do, we don't experience big losses. If we understand these two things, it will certainly benefit us a lot do both of these things.

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Quote from: Jonyshake71 on September 15, 2023, 09:17:18 AM

It depends on a person what he can afford. Trading could be an opportunity to them who have small amount but sharp knowledge in this field but if a person can afford both then investing is the best option. Cause it needs lesss knowledge in comparison of trading which requires deep knowledge. Otherwise it can be a high risk activity for a person. I like investing cause i still have a lot to from for being a good trader

this is always my take , specially from people who needs to decide.

Why choose one when we can have them both?

- half of your funds must be in Investing meaning Lobg term holding, (but you must know and ready to wait)

- another half must be a capital in trading , buy and sell the coins you believe will survive in the net 24 hrs of market bullying.

more people may be more active in doing both. but have you ever seen anyone think they are only lucky in one area? Everything can be learned, but sometimes people feel that they are more fortunate in a particular field when they have tried two or more times in doing something.
Likewise with investment or trading. people may be able to do both, but sometimes they always fail in investing and on the contrary always profit in trading. Or maybe on the contrary there are those who always fail in trading but profit in investing. So maybe that's the reason why there are people who don't do both.

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Quote from: Jonyshake71 on September 15, 2023, 09:17:18 AM

It depends on a person what he can afford. Trading could be an opportunity to them who have small amount but sharp knowledge in this field but if a person can afford both then investing is the best option. Cause it needs lesss knowledge in comparison of trading which requires deep knowledge. Otherwise it can be a high risk activity for a person. I like investing cause i still have a lot to from for being a good trader

this is always my take , specially from people who needs to decide.

Why choose one when we can have them both?

- half of your funds must be in Investing meaning Lobg term holding, (but you must know and ready to wait)

- another half must be a capital in trading , buy and sell the coins you believe will survive in the net 24 hrs of market bullying.

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Quote from: Jonyshake71 on September 15, 2023, 09:17:18 AM

It depends on a person what he can afford. Trading could be an opportunity to them who have small amount but sharp knowledge in this field but if a person can afford both then investing is the best option. Cause it needs lesss knowledge in comparison of trading which requires deep knowledge. Otherwise it can be a high risk activity for a person. I like investing cause i still have a lot to from for being a good trader

Both is the best option that one can do. But in able to be good in both of it, I think you need to be an experienced trader first and you'll get to understand the risk for both of them. An investor can remain and still be an investor without doing any trades and be good at it but he can't be good at trading if he stays an investor. While a trader can take risks as well and do the trades daily it's most likely he's just doing typical investor things. Quite confusing but I hope that I have explained it quite well.

Quote from: joker1313 on September 15, 2023, 05:14:49 PM

In my opinion it totally depends on the nature of the person. If you are young looking for a career into the markets then there is not much options for you, you will have to make trades on a daily basis or a shorter time frame. And on the other hand investor can be anybody. Any person doing some other job or business can do investing into the cryptoverse. It all basically depends on how much time u can devote to the markets.

Depends on your patience in this market whether you're for the short term or long term. But as said, those two can be applied to both of them but whichever you take, you can't skip the risk that you're taking from it.

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In my opinion it totally depends on the nature of the person. If you are young looking for a career into the markets then there is not much options for you, you will have to make trades on a daily basis or a shorter time frame. And on the other hand investor can be anybody. Any person doing some other job or business can do investing into the cryptoverse. It all basically depends on how much time u can devote to the markets.

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Quote from: goaldigger on April 27, 2023, 04:58:12 PM

Investing can also be trading, depends on the timeline we’re talking about.
What you should be more focus to is to increase your knowledge about the market, and know if you can do trading or you prefer more to become a passive investors. I prefer more long term investing, but I can do trade as well though recently the market seems not in favor to my decisions and that’s why I stop trading for now.

Trading basically means when a person buys and sells a coin in a short period of time. And investment refers to buying a coin as a strong asset and holding it indefinitely. So it can be said that trading and investment are not completely the same. But if one has a passive income source then he should invest in it and keep his full focus on his business or job. Then his source of passive income will be fine and on the other hand he will get a good return from investment which will benefit him a lot.

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