Transgenders are not allowed to serve the military. - page 2.

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Quote from: bcnaranjo on August 25, 2017, 08:43:23 PM

That's discrimination, being a transgender doesn't make them less of a person. They have all the capabilities that is maybe more than those straight people have. As far as I know they are talented and independent and were good in the fields that they were in.

This is such nonsense.

Not too long ago the Marine standards were relaxed so that women could pass. What's the rule now, 3 pushups?

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Quote from: Wayan_Pedjeng on July 29, 2017, 09:50:08 AM

This is a good decision. Because if they are drafted in to the army, then the transgenders will ask for special privileges such as separate toilets for them. And the military might find it hard to accommodate all their demands. When they decide to become transgenders, these people forfeit certain rights. The possibility of becoming a soldier is one of those rights.

I agree with you, this is not just a joke but it's a real fact that T (transgender) will be a burden and a huge budget for the US military not to mention medical care, contraceptives and other tools. I think the trump policy is very precise and Supported by high-ranking officers from American military generals and top officials,

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Quote from: joebrook on August 25, 2017, 06:43:39 PM

he has also banned the Department of Defense from using its resources to provide medical treatment for transgender individuals currently serving in the military

The Army funds must be spent on the medical treatment of the veterans who were maimed and injured in places such as Iraq and Afghanistan. These funds should not be wasted on sex-change surgeries (i.e. medical treatment for transgenders, as they call it).

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People need to stay focused on what's really important when it comes to serving our nation. This is obviously a distraction and has no place on the battlefield. You guys need to wake up and realize this isn't about equality or tolerance.

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That's discrimination, being a transgender doesn't make them less of a person. They have all the capabilities that is maybe more than those straight people have. As far as I know they are talented and independent and were good in the fields that they were in.

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We should also stop military services for transgenders. I mean, if another country attacks us, we shold allow them to attack the transgenders, but nobody else... except the medical and bankers, of course.

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Though i am not a supporter of LGBT I think Donald Trump signing a directive to ban the entry of transgernders into the USA Military is not a good idea and he has also banned the Department of Defense from using its resources to provide medical treatment for transgender individuals currently serving in the military, This is a way for him to force them out of the military as a whole. I see some people going to courts very soon to counter this.

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Quote from: Arahara0230 on August 17, 2017, 04:37:10 AM

For me as long as they are physically fit and can do the job on serving the country. No matter what they gender could be, let them serve.

Precisely! Anyone can serve the military as long as they undergone proper training and all that comes to serve the military and the country regardless of the gender preference of the person who is willing to do all the things that he or she can for the country. I mean being transgender doesn't mean that you are less of a person. Sometimes, transgender people can do more than the straight ones. So, let us not underestimate the strength and willingness of the transgender people to serve the military and the country but instead, let us support them and believe in them.

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For me as long as they are physically fit and can do the job on serving the country. No matter what they gender could be, let them serve.

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As long as they are willing and deserving to serve the country its up to them..
And also they must not ask for any special treatment..
They shall be treated as what they are: SOLDIERS

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Quote from: Prettygirl01315 on August 16, 2017, 11:47:24 AM

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Quote from: 0Pirats0 on August 05, 2017, 08:23:32 AM

Transgender people are mentally ill and are not sure what they will be able to do during military service or during real military operations. I believe that such people should not be allowed to serve in the army, because there can be unpredictable consequences.

I agree with this. Trans-genders by default are mentally challenged people, as they are not sure whether they are male or female. Such people are not eligible for taking part in the military operations. If such people are allowed in, then it can pose a danger to the other members of the army.

I totally disagree with you. Transgenders are not mentally challenged people, they were just born on a body that is different from the real sexuality they feel. I know a lot of transgender people and they are really successful with their chosen path. And allowing them to join the military is not that big deal because they might do better than those straigt people.

Transgenders are not sure about their sexuality. They were born as a male and they want to identify as a female (or vice versa). When they are not even sure about their gender, how can they make important decisions on the front-line?

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Maybe transgenders should to serve in special transgenders battalions...?
But in 21 century serving in army its not good idea imho

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Quote from: saffira on July 28, 2017, 02:05:50 PM

I have just read this article about Pres Trump not allowing transgender to serve in military
I respect transgenders as long as they are physically fit and can do their duty, there is no problem.

Exactly i don´t understand either, if they proof to be just as good as any marine and can fullfil his duty there is no problem.

I don't think the military receive orders via tweets, Trump is a shiposter, he would be very popular as a bitcoin and altcoins trader on twitter. Cheesy

But I don't think tweets become immediately law.

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Quote from: saffira on July 28, 2017, 02:05:50 PM

I have just read this article about Pres Trump not allowing transgender to serve in military
I respect transgenders as long as they are physically fit and can do their duty, there is no problem.

Exactly i don´t understand either, if they proof to be just as good as any marine and can fullfil his duty there is no problem.

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I, too, would not allow transgender people to serve in the army, because they can not determine their belonging to the sex, are too fixated on their appearance and have an increased risk of suicide.

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Quote from: 0Pirats0 on August 05, 2017, 08:23:32 AM

Transgender people are mentally ill and are not sure what they will be able to do during military service or during real military operations. I believe that such people should not be allowed to serve in the army, because there can be unpredictable consequences.

I agree with this. Trans-genders by default are mentally challenged people, as they are not sure whether they are male or female. Such people are not eligible for taking part in the military operations. If such people are allowed in, then it can pose a danger to the other members of the army.

I totally disagree with you. Transgenders are not mentally challenged people, they were just born on a body that is different from the real sexuality they feel. I know a lot of transgender people and they are really successful with their chosen path. And allowing them to join the military is not that big deal because they might do better than those straigt people.

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Quote from: 0Pirats0 on August 05, 2017, 08:23:32 AM

Transgender people are mentally ill and are not sure what they will be able to do during military service or during real military operations. I believe that such people should not be allowed to serve in the army, because there can be unpredictable consequences.

I agree with this. Trans-genders by default are mentally challenged people, as they are not sure whether they are male or female. Such people are not eligible for taking part in the military operations. If such people are allowed in, then it can pose a danger to the other members of the army.

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For me transgenders must be allowed unless the condition of their body is suit to the military and they do it to serve in there country.

I see in some country letting a girl to join a military, why not a transgender.

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Much better if they won't allowed them, it may cause some confusion on military because not everyone will accept their being. It is also for their own safety, they might be bullied by other soldier that can lower their morale. In the first place, you don't have to change your gender in order to join the military if you really want to, because there are male and female soldiers to begin with.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on August 05, 2017, 09:14:27 AM

Quote from: 0Pirats0 on August 05, 2017, 08:23:32 AM

Transgender people are mentally ill and are not sure what they will be able to do during military service or during real military operations. I believe that such people should not be allowed to serve in the army, because there can be unpredictable consequences.

I'd say they are usually weak minded and care too much about their looks. A soldier can't be a "pussy" or he'll put others at risk.
Just think of a situation when a transgender guy, that paid a lot of money for surgeries, gets a shrapnel in the face or in his new silicone tit. I'd expect a total mental breakdown from him at that moment. Wink

These people are actually pretty couragious coming out considering how society sees them. If they're capable, i don't see any reason why they shouldn't be accepted. We have women in the military who sometimes are even more capable than men. If these people want to serve their country, let them.

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