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Topic: Troleybüs/Eal F. Skillz/Pandacoin - page 3. (Read 5551 times)

legendary
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March 02, 2015, 06:37:48 PM
#29
I haven't looked at the feedback exchanged, but to exchange feedback when you know someone in real life without saying so is kind of deceiving. It's the same thing that, for example, shdvb does. He constantly gets feedback and posts to his thread from people who either work for him or that he knows personally just to make him look more popular and trustworthy. Eal's situation is different, but I believe if he's going to be giving and receiving feedback from his friends then it should say that in the feedback especially if negative feedback is being given by the other accounts for problems involving their friends.
legendary
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Merit: 1049
┴puoʎǝq ʞool┴
February 27, 2015, 02:27:03 AM
#28
Its freaking $10-$15...even if Eal F Skillz isn't the guy who owes, it would probably be in his best interest to just pay it and get it over with.

Make too much of a commotion and even if innocent you risk Theymos removing his mod status to just "play it safe".

No, if he (Eal F. Skillz) is innocent then he shouldn't pay anything. Troleybüs isn't innocent though.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
February 27, 2015, 02:21:17 AM
#27
Its freaking $10-$15...even if Eal F Skillz isn't the guy who owes, it would probably be in his best interest to just pay it and get it over with.

Make too much of a commotion and even if innocent you risk Theymos removing his mod status to just "play it safe".
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1049
┴puoʎǝq ʞool┴
February 27, 2015, 01:43:25 AM
#26
First of all, I would like to make it clear that at this point I do not think that these accounts are alts of Eal.

At the same time, I think all evidence should be presented, so here is some more circumstantial evidence linking these three accounts together: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=962893.40

All 3 post 15 minutes after one another. 15 minutes after Pandacoin posts, so does https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/karartma1-223006, another Turkish account that hangs out in the same threads as Pandacoin. This account has also only left feedback for eal and pandacoin.

Although the blockchain analysis is decent proof as well, I would like to hear what these users have to say about these accusations before finalizing my judgment. I think that there are legitimate reasons for these accounts to be linked so closely, although I'm not going to post them since they could be used to fabricate a story that seems legitimate.

I think that is enough proof.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/karartma1-223006, another Turkish account that hangs out in the same threads as Pandacoin. This account has also only left feedback for eal and pandacoin.
Dafuq? Do you really think this can be an evidence?

I'm on the same page too (primedice giveaway), Write me down as an alt too. Are you really this idiot?

This is a warning in Turkish section about primedice giveaway: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10532180
post:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/primedicecom-003-btc-each-giveaway-962893
Stunna 0.03 veriyor ilk 100 e. Minimum 300 activity gerekiyor.

And not a single post from Pandacoin nor Troleybüs after that post, odd don't you think? They just went there and posted, 15 minutes from each other. Oh and not to mention the "trustworthy", with no reference, feedback they left each other.

ps: I copied the message here because marco owns this account Grin

Well by the way, you're obviously doing this shit because of your revenge wish...

It's not a revenge wish, Eal F. Skillz didn't do anything to me prior to this incident (yes, he was a bit stubborn with his feedback on yussuf89 but that's it).



My post's date: (All dates are in Turkish Local Time, they may seen different to you)
February 21, 2015, 02:30:30 PM
Eal's post's date:
February 21, 2015, 02:46:44 PM
Pandacoin's post's date:
February 21, 2015, 02:58:07 PM
Troleybüs's post's date:
February 21, 2015, 03:11:12 PM
Karartma1's post's date:
February 21, 2015, 03:26:32 PM

These time differencies are not coincidence or implying they're own by the same person. I've posted before, there are couple of topics in Turkish section about those giveaways so non-English speaker friends can earn some BTC.

Also, I've posted 15 mins before Eal didn't you check it? Eal gave me same feedback mentioning "Trustworthy" without reference. Why am I not on that list? According to your logic I should be one of Eal's accounts...


No, your posting history is extremely different and you wouldn't be standing up for yourself if you weren't his alt I imagine.

Karartma1 is possibly another of his alts as all he does is post in giveaways exactly like pandacoin, Eal F Skillz and troleybüs.
legendary
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February 27, 2015, 01:37:03 AM
#25
First of all, I would like to make it clear that at this point I do not think that these accounts are alts of Eal.

At the same time, I think all evidence should be presented, so here is some more circumstantial evidence linking these three accounts together: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=962893.40

All 3 post 15 minutes after one another. 15 minutes after Pandacoin posts, so does https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/karartma1-223006, another Turkish account that hangs out in the same threads as Pandacoin. This account has also only left feedback for eal and pandacoin.

Although the blockchain analysis is decent proof as well, I would like to hear what these users have to say about these accusations before finalizing my judgment. I think that there are legitimate reasons for these accounts to be linked so closely, although I'm not going to post them since they could be used to fabricate a story that seems legitimate.

I think that is enough proof.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/karartma1-223006, another Turkish account that hangs out in the same threads as Pandacoin. This account has also only left feedback for eal and pandacoin.
Dafuq? Do you really think this can be an evidence?

I'm on the same page too (primedice giveaway), Write me down as an alt too. Are you really this idiot?

This is a warning in Turkish section about primedice giveaway: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10532180
post:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/primedicecom-003-btc-each-giveaway-962893
Stunna 0.03 veriyor ilk 100 e. Minimum 300 activity gerekiyor.

And not a single post from Pandacoin nor Troleybüs after that post, odd don't you think? They just went there and posted, 15 minutes from each other. Oh and not to mention the "trustworthy", with no reference, feedback they left each other.

ps: I copied the message here because marco owns this account Grin

Well by the way, you're obviously doing this shit because of your revenge wish...

It's not a revenge wish, Eal F. Skillz didn't do anything to me prior to this incident (yes, he was a bit stubborn with his feedback on yussuf89 but that's it).



My post's date: (All dates are in Turkish Local Time, they may seen different to you)
February 21, 2015, 02:30:30 PM
Eal's post's date:
February 21, 2015, 02:46:44 PM
Pandacoin's post's date:
February 21, 2015, 02:58:07 PM
Troleybüs's post's date:
February 21, 2015, 03:11:12 PM
Karartma1's post's date:
February 21, 2015, 03:26:32 PM

These time differencies are not coincidence or implying they're own by the same person. I've posted before, there are couple of topics in Turkish section about those giveaways so non-English speaker friends can earn some BTC.

Also, I've posted 15 mins before Eal didn't you check it? Eal gave me same feedback mentioning "Trustworthy" without reference. Why am I not on that list? According to your logic I should be one of Eal's accounts...

legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1049
┴puoʎǝq ʞool┴
February 27, 2015, 01:24:00 AM
#24
First of all, I would like to make it clear that at this point I do not think that these accounts are alts of Eal.

At the same time, I think all evidence should be presented, so here is some more circumstantial evidence linking these three accounts together: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=962893.40

All 3 post 15 minutes after one another. 15 minutes after Pandacoin posts, so does https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/karartma1-223006, another Turkish account that hangs out in the same threads as Pandacoin. This account has also only left feedback for eal and pandacoin.

Although the blockchain analysis is decent proof as well, I would like to hear what these users have to say about these accusations before finalizing my judgment. I think that there are legitimate reasons for these accounts to be linked so closely, although I'm not going to post them since they could be used to fabricate a story that seems legitimate.

I think that is enough proof.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/karartma1-223006, another Turkish account that hangs out in the same threads as Pandacoin. This account has also only left feedback for eal and pandacoin.
Dafuq? Do you really think this can be an evidence?

I'm on the same page too (primedice giveaway), Write me down as an alt too. Are you really this idiot?

This is a warning in Turkish section about primedice giveaway: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10532180
post:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/primedicecom-003-btc-each-giveaway-962893
Stunna 0.03 veriyor ilk 100 e. Minimum 300 activity gerekiyor.

And not a single post from Pandacoin nor Troleybüs after that post, odd don't you think? They just went there and posted, 15 minutes from each other. Oh and not to mention the "trustworthy", with no reference, feedback they left each other.

ps: I copied the message here because marco owns this account Grin

Well by the way, you're obviously doing this shit because of your revenge wish...

It's not a revenge wish, Eal F. Skillz didn't do anything to me prior to this incident (yes, he was a bit stubborn with his feedback on yussuf89 but that's it).

legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
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February 27, 2015, 01:16:21 AM
#23
First of all, I would like to make it clear that at this point I do not think that these accounts are alts of Eal.

At the same time, I think all evidence should be presented, so here is some more circumstantial evidence linking these three accounts together: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=962893.40

All 3 post 15 minutes after one another. 15 minutes after Pandacoin posts, so does https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/karartma1-223006, another Turkish account that hangs out in the same threads as Pandacoin. This account has also only left feedback for eal and pandacoin.

Although the blockchain analysis is decent proof as well, I would like to hear what these users have to say about these accusations before finalizing my judgment. I think that there are legitimate reasons for these accounts to be linked so closely, although I'm not going to post them since they could be used to fabricate a story that seems legitimate.

I think that is enough proof.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/karartma1-223006, another Turkish account that hangs out in the same threads as Pandacoin. This account has also only left feedback for eal and pandacoin.
Dafuq? Do you really think this can be an evidence?

I'm on the same page too (primedice giveaway), Write me down as an alt too. Are you really this idiot?

This is a warning in Turkish section about primedice giveaway: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10532180
post:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/primedicecom-003-btc-each-giveaway-962893
Stunna 0.03 veriyor ilk 100 e. Minimum 300 activity gerekiyor.
ps: I copied the message here because marco owns this account Grin

Well by the way, you're obviously doing this shit because of your revenge wish...
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1049
┴puoʎǝq ʞool┴
February 27, 2015, 01:13:53 AM
#22
I didn't spam as you have to check my counted posts only. They are ok. But I understand why you didn't wanna pay me. Because you want to control your signature deal with all your alts and get most of the money. I can see that one coming, because I offered you an easy and reasonable solution but you didn't even respond to my message.

In that case, I don't owe you 0.055 BTC, you had to cut my 17 messages which you accidentally count last payment day which is totally your fault. I've already said you shouldn't count them in the first place. I'll write message history in below.
You owe me some amount of BTC which I couldn't count total because you erased my name in your bot. Which is fine, I don't need your dirty money. But everybody should know, you betrayed Bit-X company and as a campaign organizer you tried to take advantage of the program with your multiple accounts.

It's funny you mention Eal F. Skillz and Pandacoin. Tonight we watched Beşiktaş - Liverpool game together. Check our photo in instagram. Cheesy


PM History:
Seems like I skipped your posts. They are of terrible quality. If I do not see an improvement next month you will be denied any payment.
Terrible? Really? I think they are better than yours.

You spammed 40 in 2 days. Half of them in the games and rounds section. Yes, terrible.

Games and Rounds is not spam, I've been participating those games even before my signature. I don't count them as your signature campaign. Why did you count them and say like this? I didn't post 50 messages this round, I already know it. None of my messages were deleted by moderators. Ask any moderator if you want. If you don't want to count my posts I can tell you: 36
I exclude 20 messages which are in Games&Rounds or Off-Topic or Local board. Consider this again and say terrible.

Very well, then please send back 0.055 to 1DwsNFJnXFSFtXP7M2q4rVczLyTqNpz1pb. If you meet a total of 50 posts next month (17 more) you will be paid. I still think that your posts were made solely for campaign earnings (hence the sudden posting activity in 2 days). Thanks.

No problem, I can send it back. I just sent verification form. It's pending now. You should know that I'm an honest user here. I already have a positive trust from Staff. I had life difficulties last week, but I'm okay now. I'm in my home for 2 days, hanging in BitcoinTalk. 30 posts in 2 days is not an impossible achivement. Wink

I can't see my balance. Site is broken.

http://i.imgur.com/mxpHABb.jpg[/img]

How can I repay when my money is stuck in the site? It's already there, check it. Decrease 0.017BTC from next payment, it's an option, too.

A couple things to note:

I have never enrolled an alt under my control into the BIT-X campaign, which would essentially be ripping off the campaign's funds.

You claimed to have managed to buy back bitcoins through BIT-X recently here:
Today I can login to my account. I had to buy back my BTC with loss. I tried to withdraw but it's pending. Why don't you make instant withdrawals?

This isn't retaliation feedback (not sure why that is your subject of negative trust for me).
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1049
┴puoʎǝq ʞool┴
February 27, 2015, 01:05:43 AM
#21
First of all, I would like to make it clear that at this point I do not think that these accounts are alts of Eal.

At the same time, I think all evidence should be presented, so here is some more circumstantial evidence linking these three accounts together: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=962893.40

All 3 post 15 minutes after one another. 15 minutes after Pandacoin posts, so does https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/karartma1-223006, another Turkish account that hangs out in the same threads as Pandacoin. This account has also only left feedback for eal and pandacoin.

Although the blockchain analysis is decent proof as well, I would like to hear what these users have to say about these accusations before finalizing my judgment. I think that there are legitimate reasons for these accounts to be linked so closely, although I'm not going to post them since they could be used to fabricate a story that seems legitimate.

I think that is enough proof.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/karartma1-223006, another Turkish account that hangs out in the same threads as Pandacoin. This account has also only left feedback for eal and pandacoin.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
February 27, 2015, 12:04:55 AM
#20
You owe me some amount of BTC which I couldn't count total because you erased my name in your bot. Which is fine, I don't need your dirty money. But everybody should know, you betrayed Bit-X company and as a campaign organizer you tried to take advantage of the program with your multiple accounts.
Which of his alts are enrolled in bit-x?

Please provide proof of them to both me and PistolPete. We will use this information to warn against Marcotheminerspammer

Marco has already made one mistake administrating bit-x. Marco has now made two mistakes in his lending business. It is only a matter of time before he makes a second mistake at bit-x and his empire will fall.

The empire of Marcotheminer will be remembered as being one of the most prolific spamming empires known to bitcointalk
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1119
February 26, 2015, 08:48:52 PM
#19
Are you serious ?  is Pandacoin an alt account of Eal F. Skillz? I didn't know this thing, thanks for the heads up.

I had a little dispute with that Pandacoin guy and we traded negative feedback. Within an hour or so I was also left negative feedback by that Eal F Skillz guy. I thought at the time it was pretty odd..
Later that day Panda and myself worked it out, but it was strange.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
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February 26, 2015, 08:20:38 PM
#18
legendary
Activity: 1424
Merit: 1001
February 26, 2015, 06:04:30 PM
#17
I didn't spam as you have to check my counted posts only. They are ok. But I understand why you didn't wanna pay me. Because you want to control your signature deal with all your alts and get most of the money. I can see that one coming, because I offered you an easy and reasonable solution but you didn't even respond to my message.

In that case, I don't owe you 0.055 BTC, you had to cut my 17 messages which you accidentally count last payment day which is totally your fault. I've already said you shouldn't count them in the first place. I'll write message history in below.
You owe me 0.057BTC for my legit posts which made in February. Everybody should know, you betrayed Bit-X company and as a campaign organizer you tried to take advantage of the program with your multiple accounts.

It's funny you mention Eal F. Skillz and Pandacoin. Tonight we watched Beşiktaş - Liverpool game together. Check our photo in instagram. Cheesy


PM History:
Seems like I skipped your posts. They are of terrible quality. If I do not see an improvement next month you will be denied any payment.
Terrible? Really? I think they are better than yours.

You spammed 40 in 2 days. Half of them in the games and rounds section. Yes, terrible.

Games and Rounds is not spam, I've been participating those games even before my signature. I don't count them as your signature campaign. Why did you count them and say like this? I didn't post 50 messages this round, I already know it. None of my messages were deleted by moderators. Ask any moderator if you want. If you don't want to count my posts I can tell you: 36
I exclude 20 messages which are in Games&Rounds or Off-Topic or Local board. Consider this again and say terrible.

Very well, then please send back 0.055 to 1DwsNFJnXFSFtXP7M2q4rVczLyTqNpz1pb. If you meet a total of 50 posts next month (17 more) you will be paid. I still think that your posts were made solely for campaign earnings (hence the sudden posting activity in 2 days). Thanks.

No problem, I can send it back. I just sent verification form. It's pending now. You should know that I'm an honest user here. I already have a positive trust from Staff. I had life difficulties last week, but I'm okay now. I'm in my home for 2 days, hanging in BitcoinTalk. 30 posts in 2 days is not an impossible achivement. Wink

I can't see my balance. Site is broken.



How can I repay when my money is stuck in the site? It's already there, check it. Decrease 0.017BTC from next payment, it's an option, too.
hero member
Activity: 908
Merit: 657
February 26, 2015, 05:34:04 PM
#16
First of all, I would like to make it clear that at this point I do not think that these accounts are alts of Eal.

At the same time, I think all evidence should be presented, so here is some more circumstantial evidence linking these three accounts together: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=962893.40

All 3 post 15 minutes after one another. 15 minutes after Pandacoin posts, so does https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/karartma1-223006, another Turkish account that hangs out in the same threads as Pandacoin. This account has also only left feedback for eal and pandacoin.

Although the blockchain analysis is decent proof as well, I would like to hear what these users have to say about these accusations before finalizing my judgment. I think that there are legitimate reasons for these accounts to be linked so closely, although I'm not going to post them since they could be used to fabricate a story that seems legitimate.
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1049
┴puoʎǝq ʞool┴
February 26, 2015, 02:45:01 PM
#15
Saved all the posts "incriminated" :

- https://archive.today/Gxlfm   (pandacoin)
- https://archive.today/PVilB    (troleybüs)
- https://archive.today/ranGd  (Here he edited the post "Last edit: February 22, 2015, 02:39:44 PM by Eal F. Skillz").

I don't want to be involved, only to know the truth. Good luck guys.

Thank you redsn0w.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1043
#Free market
February 26, 2015, 02:30:35 PM
#14
Saved all the posts "incriminated" :

- https://archive.today/Gxlfm   (pandacoin)
- https://archive.today/PVilB    (troleybüs)
- https://archive.today/ranGd  (Here he edited the post "Last edit: February 22, 2015, 02:39:44 PM by Eal F. Skillz").

I don't want to be involved, only to know the truth. Good luck guys.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1043
#Free market
February 26, 2015, 02:17:45 PM
#13
I think the proofs are "valid", now let us wait a reply from his account ( one of them, maybe it would be better his main moderator account "Eal F. Skillz).



Just for reference : https://archive.today/XpWah
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1049
┴puoʎǝq ʞool┴
February 26, 2015, 02:07:52 PM
#12
Stay on topic guys!
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
February 26, 2015, 02:07:13 PM
#11
I suspect all of these are actually alts of hilariousandco (another staff member) but let me see what I can dig up

Damn, you got me  Roll Eyes. The question is, who are you an alt of?
Ha no you are not. It should be obvious who he is an alt of, elianite

Good call, Vod.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1043
#Free market
February 26, 2015, 02:06:06 PM
#10
Are you serious ?  is Pandacoin an alt account of Eal F. Skillz? I didn't know this thing, thanks for the heads up.
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