Topic: Stolen account yussuf89 (Read 8938 times)
I gave back account to it's previous owner. Thread can now be closed.
Marcoheminer sell stolen account?
Yes he did. If you check marcotheminer's trade page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=147773
you'll see a negative trust from Badbear.
"BadBear 12: -0 / +5(5) 2015-02-24 0.00000000 Reference Traffics in stolen accounts "
And click the reference link, where'll it lead you?
@marco please don't lie here. Everything is obvious.
Marcoheminer sell stolen account?
No it was not stolen.
Update: 20.05.2015 - 19:10 (Turkey's hour).
According to @Zeki a.k.a yussuf89 confirmed that he take his account back from the buyer here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/herkese-merhaba-1066619
But that doesn't change marcotheminer's situation. He sold a stollen acount to someone else and the buyer gave it back.
It was not stolen.
I'll have Zeki post here, with a signed messaged if necessary.
Hey.
I want to do the right thing and give this account back to it's owner. I bought this account few weeks ago for 0.7 BTC without knowing about previous owner or any of this. I found this thread few days ago, when I bought this acount from marcotheminer, I didn't know about this thread or that account which I will buy is compromised.
I already contacted previous owner and waiting from him reply.
I am not asking any BTC by returning this account, will take all loss on me ( sadly 0.7 BTC ).
Cheers.
I want to do the right thing and give this account back to it's owner. I bought this account few weeks ago for 0.7 BTC without knowing about previous owner or any of this. I found this thread few days ago, when I bought this acount from marcotheminer, I didn't know about this thread or that account which I will buy is compromised.
I already contacted previous owner and waiting from him reply.
I am not asking any BTC by returning this account, will take all loss on me ( sadly 0.7 BTC ).
Cheers.
*Buys account from Marco marked Traffics in stolen accounts*
*Surprised to find that the account was stolen*
Marcoheminer sell stolen account?
Yes he did. If you check marcotheminer's trade page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=147773
you'll see a negative trust from Badbear.
"BadBear 12: -0 / +5(5) 2015-02-24 0.00000000 Reference Traffics in stolen accounts "
And click the reference link, where'll it lead you?
@marco please don't lie here. Everything is obvious.
Marcoheminer sell stolen account?
No it was not stolen.
Update: 20.05.2015 - 19:10 (Turkey's hour).
According to @Zeki a.k.a yussuf89 confirmed that he take his account back from the buyer here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/herkese-merhaba-1066619
But that doesn't change marcotheminer's situation. He sold a stollen acount to someone else and the buyer gave it back.
Marcoheminer sell stolen account?
No it was not stolen.
Already contacted him. Waiting for reply.
Hey.
I want to do the right thing and give this account back to it's owner. I bought this account few weeks ago for 0.7 BTC without knowing about previous owner or any of this. I found this thread few days ago, when I bought this acount from marcotheminer, I didn't know about this thread or that account which I will buy is compromised.
I already contacted previous owner and waiting from him reply.
I am not asking any BTC by returning this account, will take all loss on me ( sadly 0.7 BTC ).
Cheers.
You should contact the OP. He is the rightful owner of the account. I want to do the right thing and give this account back to it's owner. I bought this account few weeks ago for 0.7 BTC without knowing about previous owner or any of this. I found this thread few days ago, when I bought this acount from marcotheminer, I didn't know about this thread or that account which I will buy is compromised.
I already contacted previous owner and waiting from him reply.
I am not asking any BTC by returning this account, will take all loss on me ( sadly 0.7 BTC ).
Cheers.
Marcoheminer sell stolen account?
Hey.
I want to do the right thing and give this account back to it's owner. I bought this account few weeks ago for 0.7 BTC without knowing about previous owner or any of this. I found this thread few days ago, when I bought this acount from marcotheminer, I didn't know about this thread or that account which I will buy is compromised.
I already contacted previous owner and waiting from him reply.
I am not asking any BTC by returning this account, will take all loss on me ( sadly 0.7 BTC ).
Cheers.
I want to do the right thing and give this account back to it's owner. I bought this account few weeks ago for 0.7 BTC without knowing about previous owner or any of this. I found this thread few days ago, when I bought this acount from marcotheminer, I didn't know about this thread or that account which I will buy is compromised.
I already contacted previous owner and waiting from him reply.
I am not asking any BTC by returning this account, will take all loss on me ( sadly 0.7 BTC ).
Cheers.
Has the *real* owner of this account received payment that is due to them from the sale of the account?
Im the real owner of this account. I have received the payment from sale.New posts* from yussuf89 are not written by me.
* https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10536105
This is my last post from yussuf89
Confirming this.
Has the *real* owner of this account received payment that is due to them from the sale of the account?
Im the real owner of this account. I have received the payment from sale.New posts* from yussuf89 are not written by me.
* https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10536105
This is my last post from yussuf89
So, actually yussuf89 (uid: 151256) is a bought, formerly hacked, account. Given is actual activity here, I'll leave him a neutral comment into his trust feedback page to remind others that the person actually controlling the account is not the same who received trust feedbacks in the past months.
1- Yanlış anlamadıysam dediğiniz https://www.ipominer.com bunun gibi bir şey olabilir mi?
2- Olumsuz etkilemeyebilir, ama olumlu etkilemez. bazılarının huyu öyle, bir scam veya scame yönlendirme sezsin hemen negatif trust veriyor.
2- Olumsuz etkilemeyebilir, ama olumlu etkilemez. bazılarının huyu öyle, bir scam veya scame yönlendirme sezsin hemen negatif trust veriyor.
I think yes, who bought the account has created the dice site and now he is managing it. Maybe it is also better to write something in that thread (only to be intended as warning). An user from the defaultTrust list (depth 2) should also give a neutral trust, because your trust is in the untrusted feedback section.
+1. Mine is better than none; however, if an user gifted with defaultTrust membership could leave a comment there it maybe a lot more helpful!
Has the *real* owner of this account received payment that is due to them from the sale of the account?
Im the real owner of this account. I have received the payment from sale.New posts* from yussuf89 are not written by me.
* https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10536105
This is my last post from yussuf89
So, actually yussuf89 (uid: 151256) is a bought, formerly hacked, account. Given is actual activity here, I'll leave him a neutral comment into his trust feedback page to remind others that the person actually controlling the account is not the same who received trust feedbacks in the past months.
1- Yanlış anlamadıysam dediğiniz https://www.ipominer.com bunun gibi bir şey olabilir mi?
2- Olumsuz etkilemeyebilir, ama olumlu etkilemez. bazılarının huyu öyle, bir scam veya scame yönlendirme sezsin hemen negatif trust veriyor.
2- Olumsuz etkilemeyebilir, ama olumlu etkilemez. bazılarının huyu öyle, bir scam veya scame yönlendirme sezsin hemen negatif trust veriyor.
I think yes, who bought the account has created the dice site and now he is managing it. Maybe it is also better to write something in that thread (only to be intended as warning). An user from the defaultTrust list (depth 2) should also give a neutral trust, because your trust is in the untrusted feedback section.
Has the *real* owner of this account received payment that is due to them from the sale of the account?
Im the real owner of this account. I have received the payment from sale.New posts* from yussuf89 are not written by me.
* https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10536105
This is my last post from yussuf89
So, actually yussuf89 (uid: 151256) is a bought, formerly hacked, account. Given is actual activity here, I'll leave him a neutral comment into his trust feedback page to remind others that the person actually controlling the account is not the same who received trust feedbacks in the past months.
1- Yanlış anlamadıysam dediğiniz https://www.ipominer.com bunun gibi bir şey olabilir mi?
2- Olumsuz etkilemeyebilir, ama olumlu etkilemez. bazılarının huyu öyle, bir scam veya scame yönlendirme sezsin hemen negatif trust veriyor.
2- Olumsuz etkilemeyebilir, ama olumlu etkilemez. bazılarının huyu öyle, bir scam veya scame yönlendirme sezsin hemen negatif trust veriyor.
Has the *real* owner of this account received payment that is due to them from the sale of the account?
Im the real owner of this account. I have received the payment from sale.New posts* from yussuf89 are not written by me.
* https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10536105
This is my last post from yussuf89
Has the *real* owner of this account received payment that is due to them from the sale of the account?
I have seen that someone has opened a dice site with the use of the yussuf89's forum account, is he the real owner or was the account sold to someone else?
Dice : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dicebitscom-provably-fair-dice-1-house-edge-1052006
Has the *real* owner of this account received payment that is due to them from the sale of the account?
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There was a similar case here.
Luckily, the original owner consented to selling of the account and the lenders didn't have to take a hit.
He let go of ~$250..... not many people would.
Luckily, the original owner consented to selling of the account and the lenders didn't have to take a hit.
He let go of ~$250..... not many people would.
I saw it too. But as the owner said, he is off from BTC, so he doesn't care about his account. It is similar case of OP, he also doesn't care about his account much as Quickseller has posted OP tried to sell his SM account.
-MZ
There was a similar case here.
Luckily, the original owner consented to selling of the account and the lenders didn't have to take a hit.
He let go of ~$250..... not many people would.
Luckily, the original owner consented to selling of the account and the lenders didn't have to take a hit.
He let go of ~$250..... not many people would.
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Activity: 560
Merit: 509
I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
This is a very interesting test case, but I am not sure what conclusions I can draw from it.
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- Is accepting accounts as collateral not encouraged, because there always is a doubt that they could be hacked?
You should always ask a signed message from an address used by the account atleast 2 months old.
- What if I purchase an account and decide to sell it after a week because I need the money? I would obviously not be able to produce a signed message from an address used ages ago.
You can if you do what I said above.
- In this case, what if Marcotheminer had already sold the account prior to it being disputed? Would the buyer have been forced to take a loss?
If marcotheminer is a fair person, he may give an amount to the owner. Owner could atleast not get a total loss.
- If I am using an escrow to buy an account and then there is a claim of the account being hacked, what happens?
It would depend on escrow. Escrow will do one of these:
- Give the account back to the current owner(in this case, marcotheminer), send the funds back to the buyer and cancel the escrow.
- Give the account to real owner and send the funds back to the buyer.
- Finish the trade and release the funds to previous owner.
- Finish the trade and release the funds to real owner.
-MZ
This is a very interesting test case, but I am not sure what conclusions I can draw from it.
- Is accepting accounts as collateral not encouraged, because there always is a doubt that they could be hacked?
- What if I purchase an account and decide to sell it after a week because I need the money? I would obviously not be able to produce a signed message from an address used ages ago.
- In this case, what if Marcotheminer had already sold the account prior to it being disputed? Would the buyer have been forced to take a loss?
- If I am using an escrow to buy an account and then there is a claim of the account being hacked, what happens?
- Is accepting accounts as collateral not encouraged, because there always is a doubt that they could be hacked?
- What if I purchase an account and decide to sell it after a week because I need the money? I would obviously not be able to produce a signed message from an address used ages ago.
- In this case, what if Marcotheminer had already sold the account prior to it being disputed? Would the buyer have been forced to take a loss?
- If I am using an escrow to buy an account and then there is a claim of the account being hacked, what happens?
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