Topic: Trust No One - page 12. (Read 161211 times)

Thanks a lot of the suggestion. I guess I may really need to have multiple accounts for security purpose.

Thanks!

agree on

Ugh. It was bound to happen. The irony of posting on the 'NEWB' board isn't lost upon me.

So, quick background. I'm a freelance finance journalist in Toronto and after a few days of lurking around, I decided to pull the trigger and purchase some BTC to go through the whole experience. Some friends in the office wanted some too--so we decided to go to LocalBitcoins.com and find someone willing to sell either live or via interac in Toronto. Counter party was user "Duckie" with a previous positive review. We texted back and forth--his number is +1 647 795 3222. Funds were accepted for 5 BTC and poof. A couple of hours later, a disconnected phone number and nothing, nada.

I have a header from the e-mail (his address is [email protected]) he sent confirming receipt of funds and alleging transfer of BTC:

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Subject: Re: 5 BTC - makksik
From: Premium Btc <[email protected]>

Any advice?

This was my first transaction and I just feel so deluded and let down. Really grossed out.

Thanks,
Makksik

is mtgox reliable one?

Reading the OP makes me think that BTC may be a catalyst for the IT industry to significantly up the security of various devices.

BTC for the win... again!

thanks....

ok no problem

Thanks!! 

This is definitely a good thread to have stickied. However ironically, even we should not trust OP because he said trust NO ONE.

However, I want to believe.

Yeah serious. I'm glad there're other people on this forum that feel the same way.

Thank you for the warnings

i think you're right!!

thank you very much for the exchange of experiences

Currency without trust is a currency doomed to die, But with bitcoins procedures, trust should be earned, not expected. Im not saying its smart to send your coins to a guy you knew for a few weeks, but you should'nt void away forum friends because of paranoia.

i agree

Ok again, my prior attempt just fucked up cause off getting logged out while typing this post. WTF ?


How about mining software you didn't write/configure/compile yourself ??

The possibility off build in hacks could be very high, your hardware mining but not for you.

Someone could capture every succesfull hashfind and send all relevant hash info back to the hacker/minerdeveloper without having it send back to the bitcoin-network.

The hacker can then just inject that correct hashblock back into the bitcoinnetwork and receive the rewards. The network would never know the theft was going on and just pays out to the hacker.

Such network communication could be hidden , the way rootkits work.

Am i getting paranoid enough ?

I like this post, PEOPLE need to BE AWARE.

Grts
 

I specially liked the section about what your password clue file might say

Thanks OP

Thank you for this OP. If I had a bitcoin(still working on that), I'd tip you.