Topic: Trust spam happens (Read 4108 times)

He came back with an alt-account kinglong (uid:490032) to evade ban opening an almost identical thread to repeat same accusation against MZ after users asked him to provide verifiable evidence over the FuckIdolPlus scam case he was involved in. Also he still engaged in giving out fake trust feedbacks.

http://gyazo.com/f820c68abd0a5764a0b6ce5a575a3cc9

LOL


Sadly, this wasn't the case in every jurisdiction. As an example, in Italy to IP protection laws qualify users of such Keys as felons due to them being punishable even when you do it not-for-profit, in order to make a "profit" which can also be seen in the simple expense savings due to the fact that you have had paid less money than for the purchase of the original key/software. Since Symantec self-admitted to being using an exploit to illegally obtaining MS Keys an Italian user could also held accountable to article 648 -a felony - of the Italian penal code (if the same user was unaware of the illicit origin of the Keys and simply failed to verify their lecit origin - doubtful - he could hope the be held accountable to article 712 - a misdemeanor - of the same penal code. Civil law punishments can always be applied even if court charges are brought.
However, if I remove a software from a system and resell the same key to another usere this would be OK both to IP, penal laws & to MS (or other software house). Obviously, multi-user key licenses have to be sold in bulk and cannot be sold individually.


As I said above out there are many court jurisdictions. Vod called out MS since he was knowledgeable over it; but sw came from many software house and I am concerned of having to fight in a court not about a developer balance sheet.

This. It clearly states you have created lots of account just for trust spam.


This is were you are wrong. If I am abusing trust system, you shouldn't do the same to me, you should post in Meta and we can discuss.


Another misunderstanding of yours. I am not a magnet. You can't:

• Clearly post a scam accusation.
• Avoid trust spam.
• Avoid abusive language.
• Clear your doubts.


As you call us Dogs, we are same. Interesting theory.


These are explained above. Have you took the time to read before copy-pasting? Besides, could you teach me how to "suck" these if that solve your problem? Whenever I tried, my mouth is either vaccum or is filled with air. Thank you!

Such poppycock. If you don't want Vod or anyone else to leave you negative trust then either 1) Don't sell stolen goods and products which also violate the company's TOU, or 2) Do business on another forum that doesn't rate members or provide such protections.

Just last week in another thread, a user by the name of SellMaster3000 or something was doing the same thing, and seemed shocked that people would leave him negative feedback. Vod is simply making a note of facts which is valuable if you want to make an informed decision. If you like cutting corners you will overlook the trust comments and contine buying from such vendors I am sure. If integrity matters to you, then you will look elsewhere.

I don't care what your purpose is, it's still spam, and it accomplishes nothing. Use your time away from the forum to chill out.

Sorry! Admin. I don't remember much

But my purpose is to attack give the bastard is abusing trust here to apply to everyone

We are pulling more members to go to war with me

The people Indian and China are the same: Because I call this the dog


Better go suck travel mouth bitch Indian
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10986221
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10987699
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10987962
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10990204
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10991113
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10991220
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10991683

Important Messages: https://i.imgur.com/OChMSjX.png and https://i.imgur.com/hLDpXFW.png

What is happening when you avoid him questions: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10991993

If I were him, I will stop this. Won't it be boring to login to 95 accounts and leave feedback to different accounts? -x_x-


It was discussed earlier but there wasn't much use. As it isn't illegal because at most, it is punishable under Civil law.


What Vod did was to get this to attention but it went in a different way as there was "illegal" and "stolen". One the contrary, Vod has a soft corner for Microsoft and that is one of the reason for leaving negative feedback and also one of the reason for anti-vod statements.


For me, he has: "I am an Indian".

Edit: He has came up with FB profiles which claims she is living in my state. Pretty soon, he will tell she is my neighbour. Hope he atleast won't tell "she is living in my home/house".

This seems like a reasonable approach, I think.  Salty?

+1. Symantec seems to have the habit to resort to retaliation trust feedback abuse; recently, at the beginning of the MSDN Key trade affair he sent me a PM saying he left me -ve trust feedback - over the following neutral feedback: Selling Keys from MSDN is not allowed as per Microsoft own TOS (see http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/selling-product-key-from-msdntechnet-and-or/cf40c328-67ce-49b6-bbb6-c28cda92c06e) and may also be a misdemeanor or felony in your jurisdiction accordingly to IP protection law and/or other laws. This can apply also to Keys from other software houses. Always do your own due diligence before engaging in a trade! - then backtracking. After this I reminded him - PMs #msg3525723, #msg3526241, #msg3526263 - about how trust feedback was supposed to operate; so now, I think he has no excuse for his abusive behaviour.

Why don't we ban as he/she is clearly spamming. I mean there is ban for post_spam and PM_spam, so why not a ban for "trust_spam"? This will increase if no action is taken and of course, never want a trust moderation. The trust feedback can stay there.

Usually racially charged comments follow from a person that has not legitimate ground to stand on in their accusations. Muhammed Zakir was one of the first people I remembered seeing on here regularly, and although I don't know him well seems like a genuinely nice guy. There are certainly bad actors amongst all races and peoples, so trying to justify this simply because he is an Indian is rather laughable.

this is obvious spam. I think this probably qualifies to have them removed, however either way it is not going to affect you.

IMO anyone that attacks someone based on their race is deducted credibility points in my book and are generally not going to be listened to.

95 accounts for trust bombing? Really?

Who cares? Negative trusts from brand new/newbie users. I hope no one will trust  their judgments  . will the trust system be (in the new forum software) the same as now?

Thanks mate. Whose next or am I the last?

What is with my messages? I was trying to ask FuckIdolPlus to know more about this. If you look my posts, you can clearly see that I have done the same thing earlier.


I asked her to give the password to me or a trusted person so that I or anyone else can verify what she is claiming is true or not.


See the reference.


If you have checked the time, you can easily know I was sleeping at that time. I checked your thread now and if you unlock it, I can reply. Thank you!


A fair warning: You maybe going for similar names. I can assure you, I don't know here but I know you won't believe it. If you think it is her's, it's okay but probably, it may belong to someone else and you might be breaking their privacy. Anyway, it's always your choice.


Yes, I am an Indian. I still don't know why should I protect a person(if he/she is bad) even if the person is living in my country.

This is going a little offtopic. If you think my actions are bad or irrelevant, feel free to start a scam accusation and we can discuss it there.

Better go suck travel mouth bitch Indian:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10986221
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10987699
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10987962
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10990204
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10991113
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10991220
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10991683

Important Messages: https://i.imgur.com/OChMSjX.png and https://i.imgur.com/hLDpXFW.png

What is happening when you avoid him questions: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10991993

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I will find here: Skype: tanya.kuthiala.3 and E-Mail: [email protected] and I'll figure out something like this

https://www.facebook.com/tanya.kuthiala.3 or https://www.facebook.com/tanya.kuthiala (This is Indians, in the state of Kerala)

PS: Here's a bitch in Indians...That is why Muhammad Zakir trying to justify the actions of this scam

Muhammad Zakir - https://i.imgur.com/Rmv7Hju.png (This is Indians, in the state of Kerala)

They are simple rules for leaving feedback. There are many more rules for leaving trust feedback. Don't claim things only with those three lines.


I don't want you to stop posting in this thread, I want you to stop using unnecessary BBCodes and speak calmly.


This shows how exactly is your personality.


I (we) aren't in for a war. It looks like you are in for a war. You even can't talk correctly.


I didn't understand this. However, I am fairly sure you have misunderstood.


Warning is good but you should clarify all things or atleast the questions asked by members. What you did were reposting same post(s).



Negative trust feedback wasn't for scamming, it was for bad attitude and possible-false scam accusation.


You did see his profile, right? We aren't ignoring him, you couldn't even make a truthful scam accusation and came up with bad behavior.


Yes, self-moderated threads are bad for sales but there can be good intentions too(not saying FuckIdolPlus has/had good/bad intention).

P.S. You can clearly understand what does the forum warning mean. IMHO you have a few misunderstandings but you aren't ready to ask them.

Read it before you open your mouth dog here

- Positive - You trust this person or had a successful trade.
- Neutral - Comments. Your rating will not affect this person's trust score.
- Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.


This is the last time I speak in this topic:

1. You and the people Indian and China are the same: Because I call this the dog

2. You guys are calling for more people to participate to war with me

3. He and others are abusing the system you trust to apply to everyone

4. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fuckidolplus-scammer-56-please-banned-him-1012548 (This is my topic aims to warn everyone to be careful when trade with him)


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As for my own: I still staying true to conscience and my man and I is not scam anyone here. Here I always have customers and partners trust me

Those who are taking advantage of trust: Stop the ignorance of him when imposing it for everyone

Especially pay attention to the following topics: This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1013646
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--987244
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-microsoft-office-windows-keys-for-2-4-1007956
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/psn-steam-xbox-live-itunes-megastore-cheap-prices-btc-and-pm-only-1007795

Yes I'm pretty sure he has at least 2 additional accounts he uses to sell keys (not 100% sure so I won't mention the accounts) and who knows if others besides those.