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legendary
Activity: 3122
Merit: 1102
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
October 31, 2022, 05:59:02 PM
#74
People very quick to defend books, strange. I was stonewalled for a withdrawal with Trustdice until I went to Askgamblers. It does happen.
Sometimes when I look at myself I conclude that I don't know many things concerning gambling so I want to ask if there is anyway this can be done because gambling really know about you but some people are interested to learn more like me and curious to learn about gambling in all means

you are on the right track as you already found this forum. if you know more about gambling, just browse the threads here as well as the gambling discussion board. you can also try playing using small deposits and get the grasp of what's going on with the site as well as the game. you don't need to be a rocket scientist to play gambling games.


I love that you shared this kind of information to us. It just really resolves this kind of accusation. Why can't other casino do the same thing?

Thank you for your recognition! We attach great importance to transparent and meaningful communication with players and the crypto community at large, therefore we value Bitcointalk a lot and consider it a reliable channel for such effort.


Best,
TrustDice Team
Thanks to the trustdice team for sharing this info with the public I like the way and manner this case was handled publicly, now I know why ops have not replied to all the comments on this thread.

We even demanded he shares some evidence to back up his claims but until now he has not responded and this action of his speak volume about the authenticity of his claims.

this is also the advantage of having active support on this forum. the casino in question can always clarify the situation and give their inputs towards the situation. because if they don't have any rep, hard to give their side of story. and people will just assume the site is indeed a scam.
jr. member
Activity: 151
Merit: 4
October 31, 2022, 04:10:50 PM
#73
People very quick to defend books, strange. I was stonewalled for a withdrawal with Trustdice until I went to Askgamblers. It does happen.
sr. member
Activity: 672
Merit: 273
October 31, 2022, 03:45:48 PM
#72

I love that you shared this kind of information to us. It just really resolves this kind of accusation. Why can't other casino do the same thing?

Thank you for your recognition! We attach great importance to transparent and meaningful communication with players and the crypto community at large, therefore we value Bitcointalk a lot and consider it a reliable channel for such effort.


Best,
TrustDice Team
Thanks to the trustdice team for sharing this info with the public I like the way and manner this case was handled publicly, now I know why ops have not replied to all the comments on this thread.

We even demanded he shares some evidence to back up his claims but until now he has not responded and this action of his speak volume about the authenticity of his claims.
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 3045
Top Crypto Casino
October 31, 2022, 12:14:43 PM
#71
I think it is high time we pay less attention to all the newbies account posting accusations on this board and if they want they accusations to be given the needle attention, their should go to reputation and make proper scam accusations thread rather than coming to gambling board to create threads just to destroy the image of their perceived competitors.
Most of us here already know their tactics and we know they follow similar pattern to make this accusations.
Actually, scam accusation topics should be posted on the scam accusation board not the reputation board.
I agree with you that many accusations made by newbies are baseless and made only as a revenge to harm the casino's reputation. But this doesn't mean we have to ignore them all together and should treat them on a case by case basis as some of them my have genuine concerns.
hero member
Activity: 1008
Merit: 520
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
October 30, 2022, 05:24:11 PM
#70


You are right, he has been proven to have abused the bonus in the post above and I have guessed that the above report is only used to find "bugs" so that he can get the welcome bonus from registering another account.
I think it is high time we pay less attention to all the newbies account posting accusations on this board and if they want they accusations to be given the needle attention, their should go to reputation and make proper scam accusations thread rather than coming to gambling board to create threads just to destroy the image of their perceived competitors.
Most of us here already know their tactics and we know they follow similar pattern to make this accusations.
sr. member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 262
October 29, 2022, 05:49:13 PM
#69
Why they post accusations without sharing any proof? If there’s no proof that’s a baseless accusation no matter how much it’s value. If there’s no update from OP, probably he is just messing around here. I see good reviews with Trustdice though and for sure if OP provide his proof probably this case can be solve easily.
Some accusation post coming from newbie account and seems speculation between competitor way how to make one gambling site down or really real problem faced by them.  I have checked some review made by account with level newbie and without any proof sharing seems difficult to claimed with Trustdice site is wrong, but lets waiting if OP give valid respond and can sharing proof to know which one true or fault. Not any casino suspend or freeze account without have mistake or TOS rule break, they have announce which one allow and disallow when active at some gambling casino website.
sr. member
Activity: 672
Merit: 273
October 29, 2022, 12:33:06 PM
#68
2 days later no answer from OP? What happened mate? Taking your time gathering counter-evidence or what? Cheesy


I think the ops have already given up, as he has not updated the thread since it creates and even if he is looking for evidence he shouldn't have taken this long before he responds here.

Because the only evidence needed is screenshots of his evidence to prove the allegation against trust dice.
Why they post accusations without sharing any proof? If there’s no proof that’s a baseless accusation no matter how much it’s value. If there’s no update from OP, probably he is just messing around here. I see good reviews with Trustdice though and for sure if OP provide his proof probably this case can be solve easily.

Honestly after spending years in this forum, 90% of all scam accusation posts made here on the gambling subforums is just people wanting to vent about getting caught breaking the rules and facing the consequences. It is quite tiring but understandable. I would probably want to vent to if I lost my account/money. I would think its best to just follow the rules, though. That way you can keep playing without having to worry.

Although I am still very much against having to store your money on a third party wallet on some gambling website. All gambling should be decentralised. Otherwise who knows when some gambling website decides to go rogue? It happens. Rarely. But it happens.
I am also against storing large amount on either gambling wallet or exchanges most especially the centralized ones because you may end up not being able to access the funds when anything happens, and that is why i am always hesitant about playing on centralized gambling platform that demand kyc at whatever point.

And on the other hand trustdice have been around for a while and i dont think their will just violates their client right to access his money without any proven evidence of abused on the system.
hero member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 547
Top Crypto Casino
October 29, 2022, 11:59:18 AM
#67

I love that you shared this kind of information to us. It just really resolves this kind of accusation. Why can't other casino do the same thing?

Thank you for your recognition! We attach great importance to transparent and meaningful communication with players and the crypto community at large, therefore we value Bitcointalk a lot and consider it a reliable channel for such effort.


Best,
TrustDice Team

You and trustdice deserve any recognition in regard to this accusation made by the OP on your gambling platform. It also looks like the OP already knows his mistake and the bonus abuse that he did and thought that he'll get away with it by posting on the forum. After your response on this thread confirming the bonus abuse and duplicate, the OP has not responded ever since and has not been online afterward which only means that he got caught and has abandoned his accusation.

Anyways, Thanks for clarifying the case and being transparent to the forum.
copper member
Activity: 517
Merit: 92
TrustDice Official Rep
October 29, 2022, 11:34:06 AM
#66

I love that you shared this kind of information to us. It just really resolves this kind of accusation. Why can't other casino do the same thing?

Thank you for your recognition! We attach great importance to transparent and meaningful communication with players and the crypto community at large, therefore we value Bitcointalk a lot and consider it a reliable channel for such effort.


Best,
TrustDice Team
full member
Activity: 2086
Merit: 193
October 29, 2022, 11:24:03 AM
#65
The reason why OP is not responding here is that, trustdice already reponded to this and they confirmed it as an abused . The next time you post accusation you should be more confident that you didn't violate any rules because many didn't aware of this and they easily make a thread. If you are going to abuse the system, make no mistake because in a good site you will be caught.
copper member
Activity: 517
Merit: 92
TrustDice Official Rep
October 29, 2022, 11:19:38 AM
#64
In case anyone hasn't seen TrustDice official response, you can find it quoted below. We confirmed it is a case of duplicate accounts and bonus abuse.

Thank you!
TrustDice Team



Hello everyone,

The OP replied directly to us with his account information and we reviewed the case.

After discussing with our Risk Management team, we determined, with overwhelming evidence, that OP was abusing our $25 Welcome Bonus through duplicate accounts, and matched the abuse pattern of other confirmed abusing accounts.

We found multiple new accounts partaking in $25 Welcome Bonus that:
  • registered through the same referral link;
  • used the same email domain;
  • were from the same country;
  • were using the same language;
  • deposited the same amount of crypto;
  • deposited with the same cryptocurrency;

His abuse has been well documented by our system, as below (username and partial email/language was marked out in purple for privacy reasons):



Such behavior is strictly prohibited as per our T&C 3.2 and 10.1:

3.2 You are allowed to have only one Member Account. Only one Account for each household, IP, PC is allowed. If you attempt to open more than one Member Account, all accounts you try to open may be blocked or closed and any bets may be voided. Also any returns, deposits, winnings or bonuses which you have gained or accrued during such time as the Duplicate Account was active will be forfeited by you and may be reclaimed by us, and you will return to us on demand any such funds which have been withdrawn from the Duplicate Account. If you wish to open another account, you may do so by contacting our support team via the Live Chat. If a new account is opened, the old account will be closed. If you notice that you have more than one registered Member Account you must notify us immediately. Failure to do so may lead to your Member account being blocked for access.

10.1 Trustdice.win reserves the right to cancel any promotion, bonus or bonus program (including, but not limited to deposit bonuses, reload bonuses and loyalty programs) with immediate effect if we believe the bonus has been set up incorrectly, is being abused, has not been used within 30 days from receiving it on your account, and if said bonus has been paid out, we reserve the right to decline any withdrawal request and to deduct such amount from your account. Whether or not a bonus is deemed to be set up incorrectly or abused shall be determined solely by Trustdice.win.


His balance has been confiscated as per T&C 13.1:

13.1. If you breach any provision of these Terms and Conditions or we have a reasonable ground to suspect that you have breached them, we reserve the right to not open, to suspend, or to close your Member Account, or withhold payment of your winnings, and in extreme cases, your deposits, and apply such funds to any damages due by you.


Thank you to the Bitcointalk community for bringing attention to this case. Have a great week further.

TrustDice Team


legendary
Activity: 2226
Merit: 1981
A Bitcoiner chooses. A slave obeys.
October 29, 2022, 09:24:42 AM
#63
2 days later no answer from OP? What happened mate? Taking your time gathering counter-evidence or what? Cheesy


I think the ops have already given up, as he has not updated the thread since it creates and even if he is looking for evidence he shouldn't have taken this long before he responds here.

Because the only evidence needed is screenshots of his evidence to prove the allegation against trust dice.
Why they post accusations without sharing any proof? If there’s no proof that’s a baseless accusation no matter how much it’s value. If there’s no update from OP, probably he is just messing around here. I see good reviews with Trustdice though and for sure if OP provide his proof probably this case can be solve easily.

Honestly after spending years in this forum, 90% of all scam accusation posts made here on the gambling subforums is just people wanting to vent about getting caught breaking the rules and facing the consequences. It is quite tiring but understandable. I would probably want to vent to if I lost my account/money. I would think its best to just follow the rules, though. That way you can keep playing without having to worry.

Although I am still very much against having to store your money on a third party wallet on some gambling website. All gambling should be decentralised. Otherwise who knows when some gambling website decides to go rogue? It happens. Rarely. But it happens.
sr. member
Activity: 840
Merit: 292
October 29, 2022, 07:50:10 AM
#62
It does appear to be a case of duplicate accounts and bonus abuse.
Savage! Now we're know @OP is creating fake accusation in order to get his winning by his dirty trick, this is why I mostly don't believe any accusation created by newbie that doesn't attach any images as a proof. They don't have any proof to show and just play with words, to make he's right and the casino is wrong. I believe the @OP will shut his mouth after you giving a complete explanation of this matter.

-  That's the problem with the accusers, although I don't blame them all because other newbies make accusations on a crypto gambling platform here in the forum that they hold evidence, unlike @OP there is not even a single proof of what he accused the trust dice.

So it is obvious that it is only doing FUD or damage to what can be said to be one of the legitimate gambling platforms operating here in the crypto industry.
hero member
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October 29, 2022, 05:31:29 AM
#61
As far as I am concerned, trust dice is genuine casino and I am getting paid pretty well enough and on time for all my gambled money over there. I’m even speaking with few users over Chat box and got tipped and giving tips so I am pretty sure everything at Trustdice is working just fine.

If somehow you have stumbled upon spam links or someone deceived you into wrong promotions. Could be that or it could be that you might have misplayed all the promos and broke the rules as everyone mentioned up here. Smiley

As far as I am concerned, trust dice is genuine casino and I am getting paid pretty well enough and on time for all my gambled money over there. I’m even speaking with few users over Chat box and got tipped and giving tips so I am pretty sure everything at Trustdice is working just fine.

If somehow you have stumbled upon spam links or someone deceived you into wrong promotions. Could be that or it could be that you might have misplayed all the promos and broke the rules as everyone mentioned up here. Smiley
Trustdice is a reputable casino company and they have a fair way of dealing with customers. So for them to confiscate your account means you have violated their rules and regulations or the terms of service TOS if not it will not be possible for them to do that. Though, I cannot speak for them since I am not in the managing team. In life someone that has a good character can do mistake because mistake is inevitable.
hero member
Activity: 2548
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October 29, 2022, 03:39:43 AM
#60
2 days later no answer from OP? What happened mate? Taking your time gathering counter evidence or what? Cheesy

When I see a scam accusation I'm usually on the side of the client even before all proof is shown. I want to be on the side of the victim and they usually play their roles well, but you've got to be a special kind to be scam a business and when caught accuse them of scamming you.
He has no time to answer, he just registers new accounts Smiley

The same about me. The casino basically has a lot more options to ban a gambler, and as you know, the casino always wins. But sometimes we see such situations when a gambler knows that he is cheating, but tries to blame the casino. In such a situation, there is no sympathy for the gambler.
sr. member
Activity: 672
Merit: 273
October 28, 2022, 04:33:00 PM
#59
2 days later no answer from OP? What happened mate? Taking your time gathering counter-evidence or what? Cheesy


I think the ops have already given up, as he has not updated the thread since it creates and even if he is looking for evidence he shouldn't have taken this long before he responds here.

Because the only evidence needed is screenshots of his evidence to prove the allegation against trust dice.
hero member
Activity: 2590
Merit: 644
October 28, 2022, 04:31:33 PM
#58
2 days later no answer from OP? What happened mate? Taking your time gathering counter evidence or what? Cheesy

When I see a scam accusation I'm usually on the side of the client even before all proof is shown. I want to be on the side of the victim and they usually play their roles well, but you've got to be a special kind to be scam a business and when caught accuse them of scamming you.
^Sometimes when you violate the ToS you acted like you are a victim of scams, accusing the casino and that is why I prefer to believe when there is evidence shown. I read the whole reply but OP did not come up and give update on this thread and probably the reason could be lack of evidence and that is why OP abandoned this thread. I saw Trustdice trying to build a reputation here and spending money of it and effort, do you thing because of that they let the reputation lost? I don't think so.
hero member
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October 28, 2022, 04:22:36 PM
#57
You are correct, most accusations that are coming from newbies always follow a pattern and most of them are just created to fud against competitors and their hide under the identity of newbies since they can easily create several accounts just to spam the forum with the wrong accusations.
But when you look closely you will notice the false claims and bonus abuse.
I have reviewed the accusations from every newbie account which has the same pattern, they have threaded the report without full description and don't include any valid evidence, I think it is not enough to bring down the competitor casino because the report is unprofessional and everyone thinks he has made the accusation false.

You are right, he has been proven to have abused the bonus in the post above and I have guessed that the above report is only used to find "bugs" so that he can get the welcome bonus from registering another account.
hero member
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October 28, 2022, 04:06:37 PM
#56
follow the bonus link
wagered a penny, made a deposit and raised the balance from the deposit 6 times the amount that I won from the bonus
in the end, I was simply banned, referring to the rules of the site.

scam casino, do not recommend to anyone.
Please my friend..
This is just an allegation to Trustdice casino until proven otherwise, because i expected you to have backed-up your scam allegations with the necessary screenshots, like the screenshot If your deposit, (either through Gmaithat app), screenshot to prove theeat you were banned and your login details, with detailled explanation how it all happened, so that if anyone who withto assist would have
able to have had a complete clue, and next step of approach, because Trustdice is not a scam casino, and theeere must have been a little bridge of misunderstanding where tou might have gone wrong.

But how about you try contact Sir "Hhampuz"...  He is the campaign manager, and i don't know he could be of help
hero member
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
October 28, 2022, 02:31:58 PM
#55
It does appear to be a case of duplicate accounts and bonus abuse.
Savage! Now we're know @OP is creating fake accusation in order to get his winning by his dirty trick, this is why I mostly don't believe any accusation created by newbie that doesn't attach any images as a proof. They don't have any proof to show and just play with words, to make he's right and the casino is wrong. I believe the @OP will shut his mouth after you giving a complete explanation of this matter.


You are correct, most accusations that are coming from newbies always follow a pattern and most of them are just created to fud against competitors and their hide under the identity of newbies since they can easily create several accounts just to spam the forum with the wrong accusations.
But when you look closely you will notice the false claims and bonus abuse.
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