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March 24, 2024, 10:56:01 AM
If something similar to this season had happened in one of Europe's 8 major leagues, and it wouldn't even have been possible for the season to reach this point, the federation management would have been dismissed completely, the central referee board would have been abolished, and most of the referees would have been unemployed. It was such a bad season that we witnessed a scandal every week that would lead to the cancellation of the league. Despite all this, there has been no resignation, no one being prosecuted, no one taking responsibility. This is how football turns into a circus when there is no law in the country. They disgraced us to the whole world.
In fact, every time problem occurs, there is always solution that can be taken to resolve it, the previous league went well and many people liked it.
Moreover, this is not personal interest but for the of football, it would be shame that what was going well should be destroyed in vain just like that.
This was difficult decision and many people thought there was some kind of game going on in it that had to do with the power of the central council who previously had complete control over everything.
But that is what will happen now and nothing will be able to change it, those who get sanctions are those who are found guilty and everyone has followed the plot.

It just that if look back and evaluate it based on the problems that occurred in one of the previous matches, there are indeed several things that are really mistakes that cannot be given relief.
We see how it develops, and remember that the problem that previously occurred when the referee was beaten, was also resolved well even though there was a delay in the league.
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March 23, 2024, 06:33:18 PM
If something similar to this season had happened in one of Europe's 8 major leagues, and it wouldn't even have been possible for the season to reach this point, the federation management would have been dismissed completely, the central referee board would have been abolished, and most of the referees would have been unemployed. It was such a bad season that we witnessed a scandal every week that would lead to the cancellation of the league. Despite all this, there has been no resignation, no one being prosecuted, no one taking responsibility. This is how football turns into a circus when there is no law in the country. They disgraced us to the whole world.
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March 23, 2024, 05:57:57 PM
I don't think there will be a serious decision regarding Fenerbahçe. Nobody wants to see one of Turkey's three biggest teams playing in the lower league. You cannot give an unfair penalty to a team with millions of fans.
I think this issue will be concluded with the penalties that a few players will receive. The president of the federation is already making speeches about unity and solidarity, people have to be more compassionate towards each other

Trabzonspor fans have harbored hatred against Fenerbahçe for years. This tension must be defused before something irreversibly bad happens. Everyone should remember that sports are for friendship and brotherhood. Of course, sporting achievements are important, but human life is more important than anything else. A peace event should be organized to ensure the friendship of both teams.

This week both teams will play easy opponents. I think Fenerbahçe will beat Adana Demirspor and Galatasaray will beat Hatayspor. Adana Demirspor and Hatayspor were good in the first half of the season, but they didn't show the same stability in the second half of the season.
This unnecessary and senseless hatred has affected the whole league. There was really no reason for such a big scene. There's no reason for this ridiculous feud. Trabzonspor fans are making a big mistake. They are fixated on ridiculous incidents from the past and it is affecting first their own team, then Fenerbahçe and then the whole league. Both Trabzonspor and Fenerbahçe should focus on themselves and the game, both as clubs and as fans. The decisions to be taken now will affect the league. If Trabzonspor does not receive a very big penalty, it will be unfair and will cause such incidents to happen again in the future. I actually hate that we have to talk about these ridiculous issues.
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March 23, 2024, 05:29:23 PM
I don't think there will be a serious decision regarding Fenerbahçe. Nobody wants to see one of Turkey's three biggest teams playing in the lower league. You cannot give an unfair penalty to a team with millions of fans.
I think this issue will be concluded with the penalties that a few players will receive. The president of the federation is already making speeches about unity and solidarity, people have to be more compassionate towards each other
I also think that they are afraid of making a decision that will affect the fate of the league, but there is a great chaos in the football in the country right now, so it's very difficult to predict what the decision will be. Leaving it until after the elections also increases the question marks. Why are they waiting for the election to announce the penalties, it's a strange situation.
There should be deterrent penalties to prevent such incidents from happening again, but we see major incidents like this several times every season. We can even say that we are used to this situation as a people.
Yeah, now it's time for the TFF to bring strict rules and policies because recently we have good development in league and as things were going on positive way we have big incident which are surely not acceptable even right now nothing is clear, and we have to wait for the 2nd April with election is also going to have big impact on this all if we have any wrong decision from the Fenerbahçe then surely this could be huge setback.

President of the federation is trying to settle things, but now it's just not going to settle with speeches we need some serious changes which will bring better and positive changes in soccer which is much needed for all clubs and fans which now love to watch good soccer.

I think the first change should definitely be the TFF management, first of all there should be a fair TFF management, if that comes, the League will definitely be better.
Referees definitely need to be trained much better, unfortunately this cannot happen with referees, they are getting worse every day.
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March 23, 2024, 05:22:34 AM
I don't think there will be a serious decision regarding Fenerbahçe. Nobody wants to see one of Turkey's three biggest teams playing in the lower league. You cannot give an unfair penalty to a team with millions of fans.
I think this issue will be concluded with the penalties that a few players will receive. The president of the federation is already making speeches about unity and solidarity, people have to be more compassionate towards each other
I also think that they are afraid of making a decision that will affect the fate of the league, but there is a great chaos in the football in the country right now, so it's very difficult to predict what the decision will be. Leaving it until after the elections also increases the question marks. Why are they waiting for the election to announce the penalties, it's a strange situation.
There should be deterrent penalties to prevent such incidents from happening again, but we see major incidents like this several times every season. We can even say that we are used to this situation as a people.
Yeah, now it's time for the TFF to bring strict rules and policies because recently we have good development in league and as things were going on positive way we have big incident which are surely not acceptable even right now nothing is clear, and we have to wait for the 2nd April with election is also going to have big impact on this all if we have any wrong decision from the Fenerbahçe then surely this could be huge setback.

President of the federation is trying to settle things, but now it's just not going to settle with speeches we need some serious changes which will bring better and positive changes in soccer which is much needed for all clubs and fans which now love to watch good soccer.
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March 22, 2024, 10:06:08 PM
People are discussing the possibility of Fenerbahçe board to decide to withdraw from the league as well recently. However I'm not expecting such thing to happen. I wouldn't like to see one of the biggest teams of the Super League in lower leagues to tell the truth. These teams are keeping the prestige level of the Super League in its current place.

By the way I see it like there are 2 teams to join the Champions League qualification stage this season. Is it true? If it is then this means there is a chance that we have a potential to carry 2 teams from our country to the Champions League group stage. To increase the country coefficient this would be really great.  Smiley

Yes, we will participate with 2 teams next year. But there is a problem: if Fenerbahçe withdraws from the League, we will lose points as a country and it will be a problem for us to go to the European Leagues.
Let's see what decision will be made on April 2, everyone is waiting for this decision.
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March 22, 2024, 06:58:32 PM
I don't think there will be a serious decision regarding Fenerbahçe. Nobody wants to see one of Turkey's three biggest teams playing in the lower league. You cannot give an unfair penalty to a team with millions of fans.
I think this issue will be concluded with the penalties that a few players will receive. The president of the federation is already making speeches about unity and solidarity, people have to be more compassionate towards each other

Trabzonspor fans have harbored hatred against Fenerbahçe for years. This tension must be defused before something irreversibly bad happens. Everyone should remember that sports are for friendship and brotherhood. Of course, sporting achievements are important, but human life is more important than anything else. A peace event should be organized to ensure the friendship of both teams.

This week both teams will play easy opponents. I think Fenerbahçe will beat Adana Demirspor and Galatasaray will beat Hatayspor. Adana Demirspor and Hatayspor were good in the first half of the season, but they didn't show the same stability in the second half of the season.
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March 22, 2024, 06:49:46 PM
I don't think there will be a serious decision regarding Fenerbahçe. Nobody wants to see one of Turkey's three biggest teams playing in the lower league. You cannot give an unfair penalty to a team with millions of fans.
I think this issue will be concluded with the penalties that a few players will receive. The president of the federation is already making speeches about unity and solidarity, people have to be more compassionate towards each other

I also think that they are afraid of making a decision that will affect the fate of the league, but there is a great chaos in the football in the country right now, so it's very difficult to predict what the decision will be. Leaving it until after the elections also increases the question marks. Why are they waiting for the election to announce the penalties, it's a strange situation.
There should be deterrent penalties to prevent such incidents from happening again, but we see major incidents like this several times every season. We can even say that we are used to this situation as a people.
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March 22, 2024, 09:35:06 AM
I don't think there will be a serious decision regarding Fenerbahçe. Nobody wants to see one of Turkey's three biggest teams playing in the lower league. You cannot give an unfair penalty to a team with millions of fans.
I think this issue will be concluded with the penalties that a few players will receive. The president of the federation is already making speeches about unity and solidarity, people have to be more compassionate towards each other
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March 22, 2024, 09:17:53 AM
People are discussing the possibility of Fenerbahçe board to decide to withdraw from the league as well recently. However I'm not expecting such thing to happen. I wouldn't like to see one of the biggest teams of the Super League in lower leagues to tell the truth. These teams are keeping the prestige level of the Super League in its current place.

By the way I see it like there are 2 teams to join the Champions League qualification stage this season. Is it true? If it is then this means there is a chance that we have a potential to carry 2 teams from our country to the Champions League group stage. To increase the country coefficient this would be really great.  Smiley
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March 22, 2024, 01:58:46 AM
Galatasaray still managed to stay at the top of the standings by holding the difference in points from Fenerbahce by 2 points, I think the match between Fenerbahce vs Trabzonspor will end in draw or win for Trabzonspor because in this match the performance of both is almost equal.
It just that Fenerbahce victory over Trabzonspor means they can save the full 3 points and get closer to getting points from Galatasaray, in the future, it is certain that there will be much fiercer competition because the fight for the title will continue.
Galatasaray and Fenerbahce are the strongest candidates in the race for the title because the other teams below these two team have very large difference in points and it is impossible for them to catch up.
Galatasaray and Fenerbahce will meet later before the season-ending competition finishes and we will see who is truly the strongest to be worthy of the title this season.
But they will also meet first in the Turkish Super Cup final on April 8.
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March 22, 2024, 12:42:00 AM
The economic consequences of such action will be quite dire, and will probably result with them having to rebuild. I am not saying that's good or bad, I am just saying that all these big name good quality players will not stay, and will want to move away, so they will have to be forced to sell most of them, and considering players are dying to leave at that point, it is also quite possible that they will not get top money for it neither. They will need to cut the budget down, and have a lot of debt already so it is going to be mostly cheaper players and a whole new rebuild.

You can't keep paying 5+ million euro to players at that level, max you should do is a million euro at most, probably not even that for most of the squad. These all have results, and may hurt them for yet another decade.
Fenerbahçe's name worths a lot of money so they can still generate huge money through streaming revenue and overall sponsorships. But I also think most players would not like to play at 2nd league, they will directly cancel their contracts in emergency in my opinion. I also agree, even if Fenerbahçe returns back to Süper Lig in 1 year, it may take them 5 years to compete with Galatasaray because of some financial benefits gone. Rebuilding Süper Lig team is not easy task.
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March 21, 2024, 09:08:41 PM
The economic consequences of such action will be quite dire, and will probably result with them having to rebuild. I am not saying that's good or bad, I am just saying that all these big name good quality players will not stay, and will want to move away, so they will have to be forced to sell most of them, and considering players are dying to leave at that point, it is also quite possible that they will not get top money for it neither. They will need to cut the budget down, and have a lot of debt already so it is going to be mostly cheaper players and a whole new rebuild.

You can't keep paying 5+ million euro to players at that level, max you should do is a million euro at most, probably not even that for most of the squad. These all have results, and may hurt them for yet another decade.
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March 21, 2024, 06:57:45 AM
Fenerbahçe will most probably withdraw from the league. What happened after the Trabzonspor match is not normal. These events have a backstory and a history.  Ali Koç and his team's decision is final this time. After the April 2 general assembly meeting, if there is no step from the TFF, it seems that there will be a decision to withdraw from the league. If Fenerbahçe withdraws from the league, it will be bad for the Super League because it seems that the fans are also determined to withdraw from the league.

Let's see what decision will be made on April 2. My guess is the exact opposite. They will most likely stay in the league because Ali Koç said that the penalties for withdrawing from the league are very high. If they withdraw from the league, Fenerbahçe will start again from the amateur league and it will take many years for them to reach the Super League.
Whatever punishment comes in terms of withdrawal from the league, it is discussed in the general assembly and a decision is taken by finding a common point. In this way, no one can question the decision taken with democracy. Most people are already aware that the league is a theatre and they do not want to continue this. In this way, I think that whatever happens, the fans will respect this decision. We can say that everyone who is devoted to Fenerbahçe and who is a member of the board will fully participate in this board and we can say that even the participation record will be broken.
Recently I was feeling things are going good for the Turkish soccer as their teams are improving their quality and having good chance for giving their best in all competitions, but things like these are surely going to create problems even I personally feel this all is not acceptable with they need to be had tough security checks and also tough rules for the all parties on same basis if they want to have good development and also increase into their fan base which will surely increase their revenues as well.
Fenerbahçe what going to do it's all will be appeared into next two weeks, but Turkish Federation is surely needing to work on their way for the improvement of many things which are important because now we have two big incidents in last few weeks which create bad impression around the soccer world.
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March 21, 2024, 03:00:49 AM
I am pretty sure Fenerbahçe is trying to block Turkish football federation to penalize their football players who replied Trabzonspor fans that attacked them. I understand argument Fener fans saying, "shouldn't our players protect themselves from attack?" Of course they have self defense right. But rules are rules. One Fenerbahçe footballer literally kicked a head of a fan like its a ball. Especially that guy definitely deserved punishment. Those punishments may be lightweight compared to normal cause of "self-defense" argument. Although I think they deserve punishment.

So far we know that Fenerbache has a high rivalry with Galatasaray and Trabzonspor, so when they celebrated their victory in the middle of the field it only made the Trabzonspor fans' emotions peak, In the footage circulating on social media, we can see from the start the match was running with high intensity which often this sparked a commotion and at that time the trabzonspor supporters also started throwing objects at the Fenerbache players, and it was clear that the security provided in the match was a little weak, allowing the fans to enter the field.

At the moment it is difficult to say who is right and who is wrong, because we also do not deny that players also have the right to defend themselves, but of course not by trying to kick a supporter's head with a kung fu kick which clearly also endangers other people, besides that in the recording it can be seen In fact, the players from the Fenerbache squad had been protected by stadium security at that time so there was no need to take excessive action.
Currently the case is being investigated by the Turkish authorities and I think hopefully we can see this problem Resolved quickly, so there is no need for Fenerbache to withdraw from the Turkish Super League as they are currently Considering right now.
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March 21, 2024, 01:31:26 AM
I am pretty sure Fenerbahçe is trying to block Turkish football federation to penalize their football players who replied Trabzonspor fans that attacked them. I understand argument Fener fans saying, "shouldn't our players protect themselves from attack?" Of course they have self defense right. But rules are rules. One Fenerbahçe footballer literally kicked a head of a fan like its a ball. Especially that guy definitely deserved punishment. Those punishments may be lightweight compared to normal cause of "self-defense" argument. Although I think they deserve punishment.
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March 20, 2024, 07:16:47 PM
Fenerbahçe will most probably withdraw from the league. What happened after the Trabzonspor match is not normal. These events have a backstory and a history.  Ali Koç and his team's decision is final this time. After the April 2 general assembly meeting, if there is no step from the TFF, it seems that there will be a decision to withdraw from the league. If Fenerbahçe withdraws from the league, it will be bad for the Super League because it seems that the fans are also determined to withdraw from the league.

Let's see what decision will be made on April 2. My guess is the exact opposite. They will most likely stay in the league because Ali Koç said that the penalties for withdrawing from the league are very high. If they withdraw from the league, Fenerbahçe will start again from the amateur league and it will take many years for them to reach the Super League.
Whatever punishment comes in terms of withdrawal from the league, it is discussed in the general assembly and a decision is taken by finding a common point. In this way, no one can question the decision taken with democracy. Most people are already aware that the league is a theatre and they do not want to continue this. In this way, I think that whatever happens, the fans will respect this decision. We can say that everyone who is devoted to Fenerbahçe and who is a member of the board will fully participate in this board and we can say that even the participation record will be broken.
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March 20, 2024, 06:35:47 PM
They are in no hurry to announce the penalties because of the national match break. In less than 2 weeks local elections will be held. There are some who attribute the lack of announcement of the penalties to this election process. Fenerbahçe's decision to make an announcement on April 2 also coincides with the elections. Whatever negotiations are going on behind closed doors, everything has been left until after the elections. Frankly, I wonder how this will end. Roll Eyes
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March 20, 2024, 05:55:46 PM
Fenerbahçe will most probably withdraw from the league. What happened after the Trabzonspor match is not normal. These events have a backstory and a history.  Ali Koç and his team's decision is final this time. After the April 2 general assembly meeting, if there is no step from the TFF, it seems that there will be a decision to withdraw from the league. If Fenerbahçe withdraws from the league, it will be bad for the Super League because it seems that the fans are also determined to withdraw from the league.

Let's see what decision will be made on April 2. My guess is the exact opposite. They will most likely stay in the league because Ali Koç said that the penalties for withdrawing from the league are very high. If they withdraw from the league, Fenerbahçe will start again from the amateur league and it will take many years for them to reach the Super League.
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March 20, 2024, 04:01:03 PM
Fenerbahçe will most probably withdraw from the league. What happened after the Trabzonspor match is not normal. These events have a backstory and a history.  Ali Koç and his team's decision is final this time. After the April 2 general assembly meeting, if there is no step from the TFF, it seems that there will be a decision to withdraw from the league. If Fenerbahçe withdraws from the league, it will be bad for the Super League because it seems that the fans are also determined to withdraw from the league.
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