Two matches were played yesterday. The first was between Hatayspor and Antalyaspor and the other between Karagümrük and Istanbulspor.
The first match was totally worth to watch. The fact that there were 6 goals is also one of the reason, but the first 2 goals were really good goals. And also, many carambols added excitement to the match. It was one of the best matches I've watched this season.
The other match was the boring one. The Istanbulspor players played a really tough but after Karagümrük scored the first goal they were out of the game. They conceded the 2nd and 3rd goals due to their own mistakes and lost the match. Referee was really bad at that match.
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Hatayspor-Antalyaspor game ended with many goals.
Fatih Karagümrük beat İstanbulspor, unfortunately İstanbulspor is the worst team in the Süper League.
There is a Galatasaray-Pendikspor game tomorrow, we will probably win, this game may end with different scores.
Fatih Karagümrük beat İstanbulspor, unfortunately İstanbulspor is the worst team in the Süper League.
There is a Galatasaray-Pendikspor game tomorrow, we will probably win, this game may end with different scores.
Galatasaray will return to the league with high morale. They played good football against Manchester United in the Champions League. Also, they will play Pendikspor this week (one of the weakest teams in the league).
Fenerbahçe and Beşiktaş will undoubtedly return to the league in shame. But we can guess that they will want to win their league games and forget the defeats they suffered in the European cups.
In fact, I think Fenerbahçe should forget about the UEFA European conference league and focus on the Turkish Super League, because the UEFA European conference league is not as important as the Turkish Super League. I think even the possibility of being out of the championship race in the Turkish Super League would upset the fans more.
Fenerbahçe and Beşiktaş will undoubtedly return to the league in shame. But we can guess that they will want to win their league games and forget the defeats they suffered in the European cups.
In fact, I think Fenerbahçe should forget about the UEFA European conference league and focus on the Turkish Super League, because the UEFA European conference league is not as important as the Turkish Super League. I think even the possibility of being out of the championship race in the Turkish Super League would upset the fans more.
The final game in the Champions League against Copenhagen will be a true highlight for them. I think both teams Copenhagen and Galatasaray have a goal in front of their eyes that they did not think would now be so close. Qualifying for the next round would be huge for both of them. But It is not a coincidence as their rank in the league shows. But it is not only the rank, it is also how they are equal points with Fenerbahce. This could become one of their best seasons in a very long time if they can carry on being so strong on the pitch.
Galatasaray will return to the league with high morale. They played good football against Manchester United in the Champions League. Also, they will play Pendikspor this week (one of the weakest teams in the league).
Fenerbahçe and Beşiktaş will undoubtedly return to the league in shame. But we can guess that they will want to win their league games and forget the defeats they suffered in the European cups.
In fact, I think Fenerbahçe should forget about the UEFA European conference league and focus on the Turkish Super League, because the UEFA European conference league is not as important as the Turkish Super League. I think even the possibility of being out of the championship race in the Turkish Super League would upset the fans more.
Fenerbahçe and Beşiktaş will undoubtedly return to the league in shame. But we can guess that they will want to win their league games and forget the defeats they suffered in the European cups.
In fact, I think Fenerbahçe should forget about the UEFA European conference league and focus on the Turkish Super League, because the UEFA European conference league is not as important as the Turkish Super League. I think even the possibility of being out of the championship race in the Turkish Super League would upset the fans more.
Galatasaray last performance was shaky in the proper definition of their ability, they may be better, they may not be better but for the face off against United they did really great, we hoped to see them perform, and they actually did by gettimg a comeback and equalized 3-3. United themselves are not necessarily in a right form and for me their victory was uncertain as well.
Now it seems like they're both at the same range. Although Galatasaray were the host and definitely, they'd have the advantage at their finger tip but they didn't capitalize on it and make a difference and also secure a win, United themselves tried but were unable to combat the host to the last and win, Well from the outcome of the match but hopefully one of the sides would qualify for the next round because it'll have effect on their progress. Both teams want to partake in the subsequent games in the tournament, this is the second to last group game and that was the time they got to prove their worth.
Now it seems like they're both at the same range. Although Galatasaray were the host and definitely, they'd have the advantage at their finger tip but they didn't capitalize on it and make a difference and also secure a win, United themselves tried but were unable to combat the host to the last and win, Well from the outcome of the match but hopefully one of the sides would qualify for the next round because it'll have effect on their progress. Both teams want to partake in the subsequent games in the tournament, this is the second to last group game and that was the time they got to prove their worth.
Galatasaray sight has to be the round of 16 in champions league, the tournament can wait a bit, this week their minds are put in Champions League, one of the msot important games they play in quite long time.
You can earn a lot of money reaching that stage also.
You can earn a lot of money reaching that stage also.
Frankly, not only Galatasaray fans but all of Türkiye supports them right now. I'm sure the support from the fans will be phenomenal to win their match against Manchester United. I am sure that it was the away game that put Bayern Munich the hardest. Manchester United will feel the same. If Galatasaray is on a good day, Manchester United needs to make a really big effort to win the match.
Antalyaspor must win away against Hatayspor today to maintain its claim for the top 6. I wonder what Hatayspor will do in this match, having lost 4 of its last 5 matches in the league. Antalyaspor went undefeated for 4 matches and collected 10 points. They have an impressive streak and will want to continue it. Antalyaspor, which has effective offensive weapons such as Buksa and Jehezkel, will definitely score a goal in this match. I think the match is close to ending with over 2.5 goals. Even though İddaa gave the opposite odds, I think we will see goals in this match. My prediction is that both teams will score and Antalyaspor will win the match.
Galatasaray sight has to be the round of 16 in champions league, the tournament can wait a bit, this week their minds are put in Champions League, one of the msot important games they play in quite long time.
You can earn a lot of money reaching that stage also.
You can earn a lot of money reaching that stage also.
Frankly, not only Galatasaray fans but all of Türkiye supports them right now. I'm sure the support from the fans will be phenomenal to win their match against Manchester United. I am sure that it was the away game that put Bayern Munich the hardest. Manchester United will feel the same. If Galatasaray is on a good day, Manchester United needs to make a really big effort to win the match.
I have read the records of the dialogue between the referee and VAR room of the Fenerbahce - Karagumruk game. I must admit that it was really ridiculous. The VAR room insist on the referee to check the replay as they have seen a clear incident that could lead to a penalty. But the referee interestingly becomes very stubborn about not even looking at it.
What is this? How can you be so sure while VAR system can show the incident to you in a clearer way?
I'm not satisfied with the management of referees in this league at all. I mean that I would still say the same thing even if a similar incident happened in a game of the team I support and the decision was in favour of my team.
We've had situations where the VAR and the referee's decision doesn't align. It occurs due to some factors which can be technical defaults or most likely the referee being adamant to go along with the VAR suggestion. Sometimes, a play would warrant a card fine or a free or penalty kick and then a call would be made, and the referee may choose to accept or ignore the call even sometimes after accepting, they still neglect to going for a recheck.What is this? How can you be so sure while VAR system can show the incident to you in a clearer way?
I'm not satisfied with the management of referees in this league at all. I mean that I would still say the same thing even if a similar incident happened in a game of the team I support and the decision was in favour of my team.
All these discrepancies makes for wrong outcome of games and mostly a side would feel cheated and tag it as favouritism on the part of the referee, there has to be corrections to these situations. We can't have our referees making wrong calls and decisions on the pitch which can very much be avoided and then after the match, come out to make unnecessary apologies that can't alter the records of the game, once a game is played, it can't be replayed so the referees have to be cautious in their dealings and be very much credible in their task.
Fenerbahçe won barely against Fatih Karagümrük SK 2-1. The first half of the match ended with Fatih Karagümrük leading 1-0 and Fenerbahçe scored the second two goals. So Fenerbahçe have again a parity between Galatasaray. The biggest breaking point of the match was Samet Akaydın touching the ball like a goalkeeper. But the referee and VAR did not aware.
If that was a penalty and the VAR didn't touch it, then I would say Szymanski's position was definitely a penalty. The first tackle seems to be outside, but the second tackle is inside with his knee. There are other refereeing mistakes and despite that, Fenerbahce won because they played well again. Both in the first half and in the second half, the referee made obvious mistakes and everything is clear. This was also discussed one by one on Bein Sports' Trio program.Referees are continually being discussed and criticised in the Turkish Super League. This is really unfortunate for us to tell the truth. Because this hasn't changed even a bit for so many years. The federation also doesn't take any action on this crucial topic so we continue to see simple referee mistakes a lot in every season.
In this Fenerbahce - Karagumruk match indeed there were debatable decisions by the referee as well. I just don't know what to say about this anymore.We are suggesting the federation to try out some decent foreign referees in our league at least. What would we lose by doing this?
Referee decisions are questioned every week in our league, decisions are not taken as if they will not be questioned, that is why many fans have moved away from the Super League, it is really sad because the rights of many teams have been defeated, it is a problem that has been going on for years.
I agree with you, the federation must immediately find a solution. This solution must be permanent and radical. Maybe like resetting the entire system. Turkish Super League is no longer followed by young generations. According to Bein data, except for Galatasaray, Fenerbahçe, Beşiktaş and Trabzonspor matches, the other matches are watched by 40-50 people. I'm not talking about the stadium, I'm talking about the viewing on television.
Fenerbahçe won barely against Fatih Karagümrük SK 2-1. The first half of the match ended with Fatih Karagümrük leading 1-0 and Fenerbahçe scored the second two goals. So Fenerbahçe have again a parity between Galatasaray. The biggest breaking point of the match was Samet Akaydın touching the ball like a goalkeeper. But the referee and VAR did not aware.
If that was a penalty and the VAR didn't touch it, then I would say Szymanski's position was definitely a penalty. The first tackle seems to be outside, but the second tackle is inside with his knee. There are other refereeing mistakes and despite that, Fenerbahce won because they played well again. Both in the first half and in the second half, the referee made obvious mistakes and everything is clear. This was also discussed one by one on Bein Sports' Trio program.Referees are continually being discussed and criticised in the Turkish Super League. This is really unfortunate for us to tell the truth. Because this hasn't changed even a bit for so many years. The federation also doesn't take any action on this crucial topic so we continue to see simple referee mistakes a lot in every season.
In this Fenerbahce - Karagumruk match indeed there were debatable decisions by the referee as well. I just don't know what to say about this anymore.We are suggesting the federation to try out some decent foreign referees in our league at least. What would we lose by doing this?
Referee decisions are questioned every week in our league, decisions are not taken as if they will not be questioned, that is why many fans have moved away from the Super League, it is really sad because the rights of many teams have been defeated, it is a problem that has been going on for years.
I agree with you, the federation must immediately find a solution. This solution must be permanent and radical. Maybe like resetting the entire system. Turkish Super League is no longer followed by young generations. According to Bein data, except for Galatasaray, Fenerbahçe, Beşiktaş and Trabzonspor matches, the other matches are watched by 40-50 people. I'm not talking about the stadium, I'm talking about the viewing on television.
The biggest problem in our league is the referees and the VAR system.
Referee mistakes happen in every match, okay this may happen, but isn't that why the VAR system came?
Why don't the referees go to VAR or VAR doesn't intervene in the game?
This VAR system is a very ridiculous and unnecessary system.
VAR is a backfire, it's true as you say and I agree with that. In fact, if we look at the existence of VAR, the aim is to increase the accuracy of the referee's decisions, not to cause controversy and disrupt the rhythm of the game. As far as I remember, VAR errors don't only happen here, they even happen in the most elite competitions, yes, I mean the Premier League. If I'm not mistaken, in the Tottenham versus Liverpool match, the match was full of controversy according to some people. In the end, I think VAR is like a double edged sword, which sometimes helps the referee, but at the same time can make the referee subject to insults.Referee mistakes happen in every match, okay this may happen, but isn't that why the VAR system came?
Why don't the referees go to VAR or VAR doesn't intervene in the game?
This VAR system is a very ridiculous and unnecessary system.
Our biggest problem is that such mistakes are constant, that is they occur in almost every game.
MHK needs to intervene in this, but they don't seem to care.
Referees should be equal and fair to every team, so the league will be better.
I have read the records of the dialogue between the referee and VAR room of the Fenerbahce - Karagumruk game. I must admit that it was really ridiculous. The VAR room insist on the referee to check the replay as they have seen a clear incident that could lead to a penalty. But the referee interestingly becomes very stubborn about not even looking at it.
What is this? How can you be so sure while VAR system can show the incident to you in a clearer way?
I'm not satisfied with the management of referees in this league at all. I mean that I would still say the same thing even if a similar incident happened in a game of the team I support and the decision was in favour of my team.
What is this? How can you be so sure while VAR system can show the incident to you in a clearer way?
I'm not satisfied with the management of referees in this league at all. I mean that I would still say the same thing even if a similar incident happened in a game of the team I support and the decision was in favour of my team.
Fenerbahçe won barely against Fatih Karagümrük SK 2-1. The first half of the match ended with Fatih Karagümrük leading 1-0 and Fenerbahçe scored the second two goals. So Fenerbahçe have again a parity between Galatasaray. The biggest breaking point of the match was Samet Akaydın touching the ball like a goalkeeper. But the referee and VAR did not aware.
If that was a penalty and the VAR didn't touch it, then I would say Szymanski's position was definitely a penalty. The first tackle seems to be outside, but the second tackle is inside with his knee. There are other refereeing mistakes and despite that, Fenerbahce won because they played well again. Both in the first half and in the second half, the referee made obvious mistakes and everything is clear. This was also discussed one by one on Bein Sports' Trio program.Referees are continually being discussed and criticised in the Turkish Super League. This is really unfortunate for us to tell the truth. Because this hasn't changed even a bit for so many years. The federation also doesn't take any action on this crucial topic so we continue to see simple referee mistakes a lot in every season.
In this Fenerbahce - Karagumruk match indeed there were debatable decisions by the referee as well. I just don't know what to say about this anymore.We are suggesting the federation to try out some decent foreign referees in our league at least. What would we lose by doing this?
The referees, who made a killing in the second week of the season, deliberately removed some teams from the championship race. The plans of those who tried to design a league with 2 teams fell through. What happened, why are you complaining about the referees now? Why didn't you object when we were treated unfairly? Instead, you chose to make fun of the situation and now you're stuck in the same situation. You cannot find anyone next to you. Justice is needed for everyone.
The league is much longer. Who knows what will happen. Point losses are compensated. The teams coming from behind can go on a winning streak and catch up with the top ranked teams. It's too early to talk. No team loses their claim to the championship just because they lose a few matches in the 38-week league. We will watch and see.
The league is much longer. Who knows what will happen. Point losses are compensated. The teams coming from behind can go on a winning streak and catch up with the top ranked teams. It's too early to talk. No team loses their claim to the championship just because they lose a few matches in the 38-week league. We will watch and see.
Fenerbahçe won barely against Fatih Karagümrük SK 2-1. The first half of the match ended with Fatih Karagümrük leading 1-0 and Fenerbahçe scored the second two goals. So Fenerbahçe have again a parity between Galatasaray. The biggest breaking point of the match was Samet Akaydın touching the ball like a goalkeeper. But the referee and VAR did not aware.
If that was a penalty and the VAR didn't touch it, then I would say Szymanski's position was definitely a penalty. The first tackle seems to be outside, but the second tackle is inside with his knee. There are other refereeing mistakes and despite that, Fenerbahce won because they played well again. Both in the first half and in the second half, the referee made obvious mistakes and everything is clear. This was also discussed one by one on Bein Sports' Trio program.Referees are continually being discussed and criticised in the Turkish Super League. This is really unfortunate for us to tell the truth. Because this hasn't changed even a bit for so many years. The federation also doesn't take any action on this crucial topic so we continue to see simple referee mistakes a lot in every season.
In this Fenerbahce - Karagumruk match indeed there were debatable decisions by the referee as well. I just don't know what to say about this anymore.We are suggesting the federation to try out some decent foreign referees in our league at least. What would we lose by doing this?
Referee decisions are questioned every week in our league, decisions are not taken as if they will not be questioned, that is why many fans have moved away from the Super League, it is really sad because the rights of many teams have been defeated, it is a problem that has been going on for years.
Fenerbahçe won barely against Fatih Karagümrük SK 2-1. The first half of the match ended with Fatih Karagümrük leading 1-0 and Fenerbahçe scored the second two goals. So Fenerbahçe have again a parity between Galatasaray. The biggest breaking point of the match was Samet Akaydın touching the ball like a goalkeeper. But the referee and VAR did not aware.
If that was a penalty and the VAR didn't touch it, then I would say Szymanski's position was definitely a penalty. The first tackle seems to be outside, but the second tackle is inside with his knee. There are other refereeing mistakes and despite that, Fenerbahce won because they played well again. Both in the first half and in the second half, the referee made obvious mistakes and everything is clear. This was also discussed one by one on Bein Sports' Trio program.Referees are continually being discussed and criticised in the Turkish Super League. This is really unfortunate for us to tell the truth. Because this hasn't changed even a bit for so many years. The federation also doesn't take any action on this crucial topic so we continue to see simple referee mistakes a lot in every season.
In this Fenerbahce - Karagumruk match indeed there were debatable decisions by the referee as well. I just don't know what to say about this anymore.We are suggesting the federation to try out some decent foreign referees in our league at least. What would we lose by doing this?
I agree with you one hundred percent. Every season our referees make simple mistakes. The brand quality of the league is decreasing because of these mistakes. Trust in the league is decreasing. And this creates chaos. The Federation does not generate any solution on this issue. As you suggested, the federation can try foreign referees. Or it can work to improve the quality of our referees.
Galatasaray sight has to be the round of 16 in champions league, the tournament can wait a bit, this week their minds are put in Champions League, one of the msot important games they play in quite long time.
You can earn a lot of money reaching that stage also.
You can earn a lot of money reaching that stage also.
Galatasaray are really prepared to take down Manchester United at home and you can see that in the way they played over the weekend, the whole team is gearing for that crazy fixture and would want to not just show individual class and talent but also team play, because they're fully aware that Manchester United with give all they got to get 3 points so they too would come really prepared.
The striker, Icardi is ready to net in quite a number of goals and get his team a spot in the Round of 16 and I think the match against United will really be a tough one especially as Manchester United have had 3 out of 3 wins in recent matches, however the match is going to be quite Intense and Icardi, would really want to step in the spotlight and send some signals and make Real Madrid revive their interest in him especially as they’re in dire need of a striker.
Well, the volatility is the issue, it was like bitcoin for them recently, lost one game to a team they shouldn't lose, and beat a team by dominating them (again a weak team) so it's really like which one is the real galatasaray? I mean if they play like they played now, the most recent game this weekend, then yeah they do have a chance to win, United is not a bad team, people act as if they are terrible, but they are actually a quite good team, and to think that they are going to end up with someone that wouldn't be all that great, is naive at worst case.The striker, Icardi is ready to net in quite a number of goals and get his team a spot in the Round of 16 and I think the match against United will really be a tough one especially as Manchester United have had 3 out of 3 wins in recent matches, however the match is going to be quite Intense and Icardi, would really want to step in the spotlight and send some signals and make Real Madrid revive their interest in him especially as they’re in dire need of a striker.
I think United could still win, and they are by far the biggest favorites in that game, what happened to them during this group stages was not that easy, it was a weak performance for sure, but just because they had a few bad games, doesn't mean they will continue to lose, they could shred all the negativity down and win both games they have left, it's possible.
The biggest problem in our league is the referees and the VAR system.
Referee mistakes happen in every match, okay this may happen, but isn't that why the VAR system came?
Why don't the referees go to VAR or VAR doesn't intervene in the game?
This VAR system is a very ridiculous and unnecessary system.
VAR is a backfire, it's true as you say and I agree with that. In fact, if we look at the existence of VAR, the aim is to increase the accuracy of the referee's decisions, not to cause controversy and disrupt the rhythm of the game. As far as I remember, VAR errors don't only happen here, they even happen in the most elite competitions, yes, I mean the Premier League. If I'm not mistaken, in the Tottenham versus Liverpool match, the match was full of controversy according to some people. In the end, I think VAR is like a double edged sword, which sometimes helps the referee, but at the same time can make the referee subject to insults. Referee mistakes happen in every match, okay this may happen, but isn't that why the VAR system came?
Why don't the referees go to VAR or VAR doesn't intervene in the game?
This VAR system is a very ridiculous and unnecessary system.
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