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November 24, 2023, 02:50:19 PM
As far as I see there is no topic opened related to the Turkish Super Cup so I want to ask my question about it here. What do you think about the Super Cup match between Galatasaray and Fenerbahce to be played in Saudi Arabia?

There has been some bad reaction from people against this news. People are inquiring why they have decided to do this. As far as I know this isn't thought like a one-time organization either. There might be a deal for a couple of years as well. We have seen a similar example like the Spanish Super Cup being played there for 3 years. Saudi Arabia must have offered really good financial conditions to Turkey that they reached an agreement.
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November 24, 2023, 01:52:28 PM

Because the defeat and draw in the last match really made Fenerbahce little depressed because it had opened up an opportunity for Galatasaray to be able to occupy first place by overtaking them.
In the next match, both teams made this match an important match to be able to determine who will remain at the top, will Fenerbahce maintain its position or will it be shifted by Galatasaray.
But in the next match, the two top teams actually have it easy because their opponents are only the bottom teams who are very likely to be easily beaten.
When they each succeed in winning, their ranking and points will still remain the same.
This is quite fierce competition and the fight for first place will definitely present an increasingly interesting match for the two team.
It just that looking at Fenerbahce in the last three matches they seem to lack confidence or have experienced slight decline.
Galatasaray and Fernabache are making the struggle for the league trophy more difficult because they are giving thesame victory energy and aura, the points gathered, the goal differences, they're seemingly the toughest team in the league and their victory is so certain.

 In a long while in the Turkish League, deciding the league's winner will take a while because these two teams are good at what they do, they play to win, and their next league game would undoubtedly end up as a victory for them both because their opponents are the opposite of them in all aspects, they're making the league's football more fun especially when it has to do with these two teams, we await the challenge amongst themselves and we're anticipating the winner, do not be surprised though that the points will be shared eventually by both teams.
 
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November 24, 2023, 08:19:08 AM
Beşiktaş will face Samsunspor in its return match to the league on Sunday. A weaker opponent couldn't have come. It could be a great morale match for Beşiktaş. The team entered the break happily with the victory over Başakşehir. Now we can see a completely different game with the touch of Rıza Çalımbay. Of course, not much will change in 2 weeks, but I think he will at least slowly start to reflect the game in his mind on the field. There are many shortcomings in the team, but young players will have a chance. Some of them played well in the friendly match against Sakaryaspor yesterday. The game seems open to development. There is no need to be desperate.
Rıza Çalımbay seemed gave a positive impact on the team in his first match against Başakşehir previously, although they won by a narrow score, but that's right it was quite happily. Demir Ege Tıknaz so far this young man performance not very good, I hope Rıza Çalımbay can improve this young man performance to be able to strengthen the depth of squad Beşiktaş. Regarding in the next match against Samsunspor, I hope Beşiktaş don't have any difficulties in that match because also Samsunspor performance is not too impressive so far. But yes there are no easy opponents after break, my guess maybe Beşiktaş can won with a narrow score too 1-0 or 2-1.
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November 24, 2023, 07:32:25 AM
Generally, teams can have difficulties in the first games after the breaks, let's see which team will be this week.
I hope this won't happen to Galatasaray, I don't think it will happen to Fenerbahçe either, maybe Beşiktaş might lose points.

The Fenerbahce team is already under a bit of pressure after dropping points in the last two matches. And now Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray have equal points in the points table. This is why the upcoming matches are very important for Fenerbahçe. They must win at any cost.
It is not certain how the players will perform after a long break. But I am quite optimistic about its performance at Fenerbahçe. Because their opponents in the next two matches are relatively weak. Faith will play at home against Karagumruk and Sivasspor in Fenerbahçe. Fenerbahçe is the most likely to win both of these matches. I think Fenerbahçe will keep the top spot on the table.
Because the defeat and draw in the last match really made Fenerbahce little depressed because it had opened up an opportunity for Galatasaray to be able to occupy first place by overtaking them.
In the next match, both teams made this match an important match to be able to determine who will remain at the top, will Fenerbahce maintain its position or will it be shifted by Galatasaray.
But in the next match, the two top teams actually have it easy because their opponents are only the bottom teams who are very likely to be easily beaten.
When they each succeed in winning, their ranking and points will still remain the same.
This is quite fierce competition and the fight for first place will definitely present an increasingly interesting match for the two team.
It just that looking at Fenerbahce in the last three matches they seem to lack confidence or have experienced slight decline.
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November 24, 2023, 06:39:23 AM
Beşiktaş will face Samsunspor in its return match to the league on Sunday. A weaker opponent couldn't have come. It could be a great morale match for Beşiktaş. The team entered the break happily with the victory over Başakşehir. Now we can see a completely different game with the touch of Rıza Çalımbay. Of course, not much will change in 2 weeks, but I think he will at least slowly start to reflect the game in his mind on the field. There are many shortcomings in the team, but young players will have a chance. Some of them played well in the friendly match against Sakaryaspor yesterday. The game seems open to development. There is no need to be desperate.

Though Beşiktaş position in the Turkey super league table is not too bad as they occupy the 5th position in their league table but I think Beşiktaş performance these season so far has not been really that impressive compared to their previous season, with lots of young talented players in the club should have given them an edge in performing more better in their matches but notwithstanding their performance for now I still believe they will do better in their upcoming matches.
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November 24, 2023, 02:03:09 AM
There is a Galatasaray-Alanyaspor game on Saturday. I don't think Galatasaray will have any difficulties, Galatasaray will probably get a comfortable win.
Fenerbahçe and Beşiktaş's opponents are also easy, they will also get 3 points this week.
I agree with you that Galatasaray will get 3 points without surprising anyone, they will win the match without any difficulty. This year Alanyaspor is very weak and will not be able to do anything against Galatasaray.
However, when the league is suspended due to national matches, we can see surprising results the week we return. That's why I think there is a possibility that Fenerbahçe or Beşiktaş will lose points. I wouldn't be surprised if I saw something like this Smiley
Generally, teams can have difficulties in the first games after the breaks, let's see which team will be this week.
I hope this won't happen to Galatasaray, I don't think it will happen to Fenerbahçe either, maybe Beşiktaş might lose points.

The Fenerbahce team is already under a bit of pressure after dropping points in the last two matches. And now Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray have equal points in the points table. This is why the upcoming matches are very important for Fenerbahçe. They must win at any cost.
It is not certain how the players will perform after a long break. But I am quite optimistic about its performance at Fenerbahçe. Because their opponents in the next two matches are relatively weak. Faith will play at home against Karagumruk and Sivasspor in Fenerbahçe. Fenerbahçe is the most likely to win both of these matches. I think Fenerbahçe will keep the top spot on the table.
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November 24, 2023, 01:51:59 AM
There is a Galatasaray-Alanyaspor game on Saturday. I don't think Galatasaray will have any difficulties, Galatasaray will probably get a comfortable win.

Fenerbahçe and Beşiktaş's opponents are also easy, they will also get 3 points this week.

I agree with you that Galatasaray will get 3 points without surprising anyone, they will win the match without any difficulty. This year Alanyaspor is very weak and will not be able to do anything against Galatasaray.
However, when the league is suspended due to national matches, we can see surprising results the week we return. That's why I think there is a possibility that Fenerbahçe or Beşiktaş will lose points. I wouldn't be surprised if I saw something like this Smiley

Generally, teams can have difficulties in the first games after the breaks, let's see which team will be this week.
I hope this won't happen to Galatasaray, I don't think it will happen to Fenerbahçe either, maybe Beşiktaş might lose points.
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November 23, 2023, 04:29:12 PM

Here I have to be agreed with you but still this is going to be tough match for the visitors with their away performance is not ideal just having one win in last five games and conceding 12 goals is surely needed to be improved if they want to have better end in this season Samsunspor is also improving after worst start and now in last few weeks they have two wins and one draw which is bringing them to better level for the rest of this season.

Besiktas is clearly on advantage, but they need to work on their defense which is not giving best now these three points are going to be crucial with top spots competition is wide open and any team can go through for the UEFA competitions.
Besiktas haven’t had the best of form away from home this season as they have lost 4 in 6 games away from home which is very poor, now they travel away to face Samsunspor which are pretty on the line and can’t be predicted when they play infront of their home fans,  Besiktas should try as much as possible to do very well and get the  3points.

 Besiktas will really have to take all chances and come out top of this encounter if they really want to get a spot at the Top 4 standings of the league, Besiktas winning this game will be the best bet of this encounter but it would be a narrow victory for them, I can't risk betting on them to win however they're my favourites to win the game.
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November 23, 2023, 04:25:20 PM
We will start the week with the Istanbulspor-Hatayspor match.  After 3 weeks of losing streak, Hatayspor ended its bad run by winning against Galatasaray in the last week. Hatayspor played a good game against Galatasaray and deserved to win the match. We can easily say that they are the favorite against their out-of-form opponent, but Istanbulspor seems to get points from this match. Because the odds seemed too high to me. While Hatayspor is doing so well in the league, it did not seem normal for a team with 2 draws and 1 win to have such low odds.
Turkish SL have become more competitive than expected, we're at the point were average teams have become a burden to the top clubs in matches. For illustration, Atakas Hatayspor surprised everyone when they accumulated three winning points against Galatasaray. No one saw that coming, except those experienced gamblers that predicted an average club that will hand over Galatasaray first defeats of the season. Atakas Hatayspor will contiue struggle but they earn good points, narrowly escape a draw points against Galatasaray.
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November 23, 2023, 03:46:23 PM
The top teams will of course have easier time, but the problem comes when they face weaker teams, that's the issue. When a big club is facing an easier opponent, they act as if they are going to win that game even before the game starts, and they will be controlling the ball all game and they will attack all game but when the other team is defending with 10 players, it is quite hard to find a space to score, so when they fail, the other team could just counter attack and score a goal and shock the team.

This is why it is quite important to make sure that you know what you are doing and you are not letting them do anything shocking, these big clubs are suppose to win and that is true but they could end up losing or drawing and that would be terrible for them. This is why they need to do their best, just because they are facing weaker teams doesn't mean that they should be arrogant about their chances to win, they should be careful about what they are doing.
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November 23, 2023, 03:32:20 PM
No matter Manchester United win against Everton or not they are still a team in big trouble this season. Erik ten Hag is still trying to find a solution to their inadequate performance. Because of that Galatasaray are still considered as favoured side to be victorious in that match between them in the Champions League.

Galatasaray should be able to get 3 points in the Alanyaspor match first easily. Alanyaspor already have a really bad form recently. After getting a win here it would be a great boost for the Champions League match as well.
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November 23, 2023, 03:17:33 PM
There is a Galatasaray-Alanyaspor game on Saturday. I don't think Galatasaray will have any difficulties, Galatasaray will probably get a comfortable win.

Fenerbahçe and Beşiktaş's opponents are also easy, they will also get 3 points this week.

I agree with you that Galatasaray will get 3 points without surprising anyone, they will win the match without any difficulty. This year Alanyaspor is very weak and will not be able to do anything against Galatasaray.
However, when the league is suspended due to national matches, we can see surprising results the week we return. That's why I think there is a possibility that Fenerbahçe or Beşiktaş will lose points. I wouldn't be surprised if I saw something like this Smiley
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November 23, 2023, 01:54:05 PM
We will start the week with the Istanbulspor-Hatayspor match.  After 3 weeks of losing streak, Hatayspor ended its bad run by winning against Galatasaray in the last week. Hatayspor played a good game against Galatasaray and deserved to win the match. We can easily say that they are the favorite against their out-of-form opponent, but Istanbulspor seems to get points from this match. Because the odds seemed too high to me. While Hatayspor is doing so well in the league, it did not seem normal for a team with 2 draws and 1 win to have such low odds.
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November 23, 2023, 01:35:07 PM
There is a Galatasaray-Alanyaspor game on Saturday. I don't think Galatasaray will have any difficulties, Galatasaray will probably get a comfortable win.

Fenerbahçe and Beşiktaş's opponents are also easy, they will also get 3 points this week.

They have a great incentive to win that game because it is the go into some important weeks for them and the perfect opportunity to gather motivation for the game against Manchester United. The Champions League season is huge for them and they have a chance now that they didn't have in a decade. The last time they qualified for the round of 16 was exactly 10 years ago. Back then they lost against Chelsea with one draw and one loss in both games.

Yes, it will be a motivation and a preparation game for us against M.United.
M.United will play Everton well this week, Everton are playing badly this year. Maybe they can get a comfortable win.

But I think a win against Everton wouldn't help Manchester United a lot. Galatasaray is playing to get back to excellence whereas Manchester United is playing to clean up the giant mess they have created over the last few months. The odds provided by the bookmakers are interesting as they put Galatasaray and Manchester United at about equal chances. But I think Galatasaray is a 60:40 favorite in this game.
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November 23, 2023, 03:57:28 AM
There is a Galatasaray-Alanyaspor game on Saturday. I don't think Galatasaray will have any difficulties, Galatasaray will probably get a comfortable win.

Fenerbahçe and Beşiktaş's opponents are also easy, they will also get 3 points this week.

They have a great incentive to win that game because it is the go into some important weeks for them and the perfect opportunity to gather motivation for the game against Manchester United. The Champions League season is huge for them and they have a chance now that they didn't have in a decade. The last time they qualified for the round of 16 was exactly 10 years ago. Back then they lost against Chelsea with one draw and one loss in both games.

Yes, it will be a motivation and a preparation game for us against M.United.
M.United will play Everton well this week, Everton are playing badly this year. Maybe they can get a comfortable win.
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November 22, 2023, 06:19:18 PM
There is a Galatasaray-Alanyaspor game on Saturday. I don't think Galatasaray will have any difficulties, Galatasaray will probably get a comfortable win.

Fenerbahçe and Beşiktaş's opponents are also easy, they will also get 3 points this week.

They have a great incentive to win that game because it is the go into some important weeks for them and the perfect opportunity to gather motivation for the game against Manchester United. The Champions League season is huge for them and they have a chance now that they didn't have in a decade. The last time they qualified for the round of 16 was exactly 10 years ago. Back then they lost against Chelsea with one draw and one loss in both games.
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November 22, 2023, 07:08:16 AM
There is a Galatasaray-Alanyaspor game on Saturday. I don't think Galatasaray will have any difficulties, Galatasaray will probably get a comfortable win.

Fenerbahçe and Beşiktaş's opponents are also easy, they will also get 3 points this week.
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November 22, 2023, 06:46:36 AM
Goal difference is definitely important, for a "just in case" type of situation, but that doesn't mean that they need to end up with anything that would be specially same points at the end of the season, that is unlikely. I mean how many times have we seen that the championship came down to the points being same? I have watched football for a long time and it is a very  very rare thing to happen, I am sure that there will be points difference between them without a doubt. The best thing they could do regarding this situation right now would be making sure that they are keeping the depth alive.

Because the league is long, and they are in Europe too, and that means depth plays a big role for both teams, with their depth not being that great, both teams lost points as soon as some of their players injured. Galatasaray kept playing injured players due to lack of depth, and fenerbahce didn't and they both lost points during that period, hence why depth is very important for a season.
Galatasaray and Fernabache are really having same points in their league and it’s so entertaining as we see them drop points almost same time due to injury problems but how long will they cope with having same points?? It all balls down to GD and with that Fernabache sits comfortably on top with a GD of 23 while Galatasaray has 14,  I think what both team needs to do is to keep being clinical and always take their chances.

 We know very well this wouldn’t happen for a long period of time as one club is bound to slip off the title, squad depth is a big question when winning the league is put up because without that, then I think injuries will have it’s pound on the team who’ll slip off, left for me i feel Fenerbahçe would continue to maintain their spot for a while, because they got a good squad depth.
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November 21, 2023, 02:50:50 PM
Goal difference is definitely important, for a "just in case" type of situation, but that doesn't mean that they need to end up with anything that would be specially same points at the end of the season, that is unlikely. I mean how many times have we seen that the championship came down to the points being same? I have watched football for a long time and it is a very  very rare thing to happen, I am sure that there will be points difference between them without a doubt. The best thing they could do regarding this situation right now would be making sure that they are keeping the depth alive.

Because the league is long, and they are in Europe too, and that means depth plays a big role for both teams, with their depth not being that great, both teams lost points as soon as some of their players injured. Galatasaray kept playing injured players due to lack of depth, and fenerbahce didn't and they both lost points during that period, hence why depth is very important for a season.
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November 21, 2023, 01:21:57 PM
Turkish SL only favours elite teams and these clubs are not reluctant, they worked on themselves to achieved this goals which is very important. Weak opponents are vulnerable to Beşiktaş and this gives the club more chances of accumulating three points and push to higher spots on the table. Elite teams have higher probability of winning than the regular clubs. Beşiktaş faces Samsunspor next, a team that are in the relegation and they don't possess the require possibilities to stand a chance to battle with Beşiktaş this season. Perhapes we hope for the possible best outcome.
Even though Samsunspor managed to collect some points in their last match, I don't think they have a chance against Beşiktaş because Beşiktaş has a much better quality squad. They are also more motivated with the new coach. I'm sure the Black Eagles will get 3 points in the Samsunspor match.
Here I have to be agreed with you but still this is going to be tough match for the visitors with their away performance is not ideal just having one win in last five games and conceding 12 goals is surely needed to be improved if they want to have better end in this season Samsunspor is also improving after worst start and now in last few weeks they have two wins and one draw which is bringing them to better level for the rest of this season.

Besiktas is clearly on advantage, but they need to work on their defense which is not giving best now these three points are going to be crucial with top spots competition is wide open and any team can go through for the UEFA competitions.

Beşiktaş started to play well, so I think they will leave the field victorious with their new coach. It is wondered who will be the new president of Beşiktaş, which has gone through a very difficult process. Footballers who know that the new management will come play more willingly.

I usually watch Beşiktaş's matches and they have been playing good football in the last weeks. I don't know how long they will continue their good football, but I think they will play even better if the new management comes. If I'm not mistaken, the election will be held on November 26.

Samsun away game is always difficult, but I don't think they will lose when Beşiktaş is in good morale.
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