Turkish Super League 2024/25 Season - page 16.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on January 05, 2025, 03:04:57 PM

To be honest, I'm glad that Sergen Yalçın didn't take charge of the team, I didn't think we would be successful with him. But the fact that the management doesn't have a plan B is a very serious problem. A lot of time was wasted again. If Sergen Yalçın wasn't going to come, why was the club delayed for days before and after the elections? According to the excuses he gave, it was already known that he wasn't coming. The management should have anticipated this and had a plan B ready. Now new names are being discussed. It's obvious that there is no preparation, no planning. I hope they sign the right name as soon as possible. It's getting too late for everything.

If I remember correctly, Beşiktaş won the last league championship with Sergen Yalçın. And the Beşiktaş squad at that time was worse than today. That's why Sergen Yalçın excited some Beşiktaş fans.

Beşiktaş will have the biggest problem this season when it starts to struggle to pay the salaries of the football players. Immobile, Rafa Silva, Gabriel Paulista and Joao Mario receive very high annual salaries. When these players don't get their salaries, disturbances will start inside the club. I think the bad days for Beşiktaş will start that time.

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Fenerbahçe management watches Galatasaray matches and comments on referee decisions. (I think they are right about many things, but) Fenerbahçe's football is not enjoyable at all.
The opponent Hatayspor passes the ball very easily and passes the midfield and gets into positions easily. Fenerbahçe should score 5-6 goals against teams like Hatay and strangle their opponents in football, but that is not the case.
The fans react to some players. Because they play football on foot.
The fans are not happy with the football they are playing.
They barely beat Hatay 2-1. What would happen if Hatay scored a goal in the last minute and the score ended 2-2? Fenerbahçe needs to make transfers urgently and fix the team game.
It is very difficult to become champions with the football they are playing, even if they are ahead in points, it is not possible.

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Quote from: karabiber on January 05, 2025, 11:05:45 AM

Galatasaray took 3 points against Göztepe with a bad game. Almost all the players were very bad. Sanchez had his worst game, Muslera made mistakes, Yunus scored but was ineffective on the pitch, Torreira is still far from his old form. But Galatasaray won the game at the end of the day and that's what matters. A team can't play perfect football every game, can't play every game with the same tempo. The important thing in those games is to win, even if it's by one goal, even if it's difficult. They got an important 3 points from a very critical match. Galatasaray is the closest team to the championship by winning 3 points in such critical matches. By the way, congratulations to Göztepe, they are a very good team. They play with a good game plan.

Bad game, really? I don't think that Galatasaray game against Göztepe was bad when they came out with all three points. Even though Galatasaray didn't score much, it doesn't necessary mean that they had a bad game, they were very much in control of the game from beginning to the end. I have to give credit to Göztepe side for putting up a fight against Galatasaray at the Rams Park and even scored a goal but the goal wasn't enough to secure them all three points.

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Quote from: xzone on January 05, 2025, 07:49:34 AM

Yes, they play very well in some matches, but this year's champion seems to have been determined in advance. Even if Galatasaray plays very badly this year, they will be made champions, it is obvious that other teams do not even need to claim to be first. Maybe we will watch a good fight to be second, but the champion is already clear. Galatasaray somehow finds a way to earn 3 points. Sometimes the opposing team helps, sometimes the referees support. In the end, the 3 points always go to Galatasaray

Usually Galatasaray plays well, even if they play badly, they know how to win. They have a habit of winning now. Even if they make mistakes in defense, even if they concede goals, they know they will score more goals. They are always thinking about offense. That's why defensive mistakes are not talked about so much. If they concede 2, they score 3. There were a couple of games where they couldn't do that, and after those games it was talked about a lot and then forgotten when they started winning again. For example, the draws against Kasımpaşa and Eyüpspor in the league. They haven't lost any points except for those 2 matches.
Look at the games Galatasaray won, almost all of them were won by one goal difference. When other teams are leading by one goal, they somehow concede goals and lose points, but Galatasaray haven't experienced that this season. Reading the game well and controlling the score is a difficult task, they do it well.

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Fenerbahçe won tonight and got 3 points. They missed many goals,
Yusuf en-Nesyri missed many goals.
I don't like Fenerbahçe's game.
Tadic doesn't shoot, I don't understand why he doesn't, he is the number 10 player but he doesn't have a single shot.
There is nothing to say to the referee, all the referees in the league are bad.

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Quote from: l99l on January 05, 2025, 02:31:48 PM

Fenerbahçe defeated Hatayspor 2-1 today. Dzeko and En-Nesyri duo were good today.
Fenerbahçe was very good at creating chances today, it was not a bad match after a 10-day break, there was no problem since three points were taken, and the players were eager to score more goals in the match.
We can say that En-Nesyri also took a place, although there were times when he was criticized a lot before the league was paused, and now he did what was necessary in today's match and scored two goals.

A good win from fenerbahce, well it was never in doubt as Hatayspor have been struggling all season. They have picked just 9 points in 17 matches so far this season, just like expected Fenerbahce outplayed them in all aspect of the field, they created so much chances and probably should have scored more, there are always matches like this, where you will create a lot of change but score only few. 3 points was what was needed and they got it, thanks to 2 El nesyri first half goal, maybe he should have scored more but 2 was able to get them the 3 points. El Nestor and Edin Dzeko really combined well and I think we really need to start seeing them both playing together.

They are 8 points behind the league leaders Galatasaray, it really a long journey to catch up with them but it still football and anything can still happen. It been a long holiday and for a team to comeback and play like this is really good. Fenerbahce can build on this momentum.

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To be honest, I'm glad that Sergen Yalçın didn't take charge of the team, I didn't think we would be successful with him. But the fact that the management doesn't have a plan B is a very serious problem. A lot of time was wasted again. If Sergen Yalçın wasn't going to come, why was the club delayed for days before and after the elections? According to the excuses he gave, it was already known that he wasn't coming. The management should have anticipated this and had a plan B ready. Now new names are being discussed. It's obvious that there is no preparation, no planning. I hope they sign the right name as soon as possible. It's getting too late for everything.

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Fenerbahçe defeated Hatayspor 2-1 today. Dzeko and En-Nesyri duo were good today.
Fenerbahçe was very good at creating chances today, it was not a bad match after a 10-day break, there was no problem since three points were taken, and the players were eager to score more goals in the match.
We can say that En-Nesyri also took a place, although there were times when he was criticized a lot before the league was paused, and now he did what was necessary in today's match and scored two goals.

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on January 05, 2025, 02:02:18 PM

Fenerbahçe beat Hatayspor 2-1 at home tonight. There was a 10-day break before this match. But it was as if Fenerbahçe hadn't prepared at all. Dzeko and Tadic had good performances at the beginning of the season. But they have adapted to the team. They struggled physically in this match. Both players are very experienced and very talented. But they are also old. Dzeko missed a penalty in the last minutes. If El Nesry had taken the penalty he could have scored a hattrick. There also seem to be incompatibilities within the team. If they make more big mistakes in a few games, some of the problems within the team might come to the surface. I don't think they have a sense of team spirit. And they don't have a good squad and a good tactic. It is very difficult for them to be champions this season. I think they have to make very good signings in the winter transfer window.

Just like you suggested, Fenerbahce didn't play their game against Hatayspor like a team whose players rested for over a week. I expected a better performance from Jose Mourinho's men but the good thing is they still managed to get all three points in that game. With the win, Fenerbahce are now 8 points behind league leaders Galatasaray in the league table. Do you think they'll be able to catch up with the league leaders?

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on January 05, 2025, 02:15:58 PM

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I don't understand what the purpose of the Turkish Super League is. Yesterday Galatasaray won such a penalty that it is impossible not to be surprised. If the same position had been in Göztepe's favor, could the referee have given that penalty? I don't think so!
Barış Alper is making gestures to the linesman and I don't think he said any good words, but Barış is not even shown a yellow card.
Göztepe has a position, even if the referee doesn't see it as a penalty, I don't understand why Var doesn't step in and say review that position.
The Turkish league was not of a quality to watch anyway. If Galatasaray continues like this, it will easily declare its championship at the end of March. The conditions are not equal here

Yes, they play very well in some matches, but this year's champion seems to have been determined in advance. Even if Galatasaray plays very badly this year, they will be made champions, it is obvious that other teams do not even need to claim to be first. Maybe we will watch a good fight to be second, but the champion is already clear. Galatasaray somehow finds a way to earn 3 points. Sometimes the opposing team helps, sometimes the referees support. In the end, the 3 points always go to Galatasaray

I think it is very difficult for other teams to destroy and break the dominance of galatasaray in the superlig so far, even with their poor performance in the match like as against Göztepe, galatasaray is still able to win and continue their dominance in the superlig this season, in my opinion the ability and mentality possessed by galatasaray is a factor that continues to make them able to show impressive performance in league, although at the beginning of the season they got strong pressure from fenerbache but slowly they got up and starting walked alone to get the championship trophy, actually we hope there will be tough competition this season in the superlig after the arrival of mourinho, but as you said indeed there is no better team than galatasaray in the superlig.

From the performance of Galatasaray I think yes it is very difficult for any team to beat them this season because they may not be playing so well in a match but the energy and the zeal hey have got this season to keep getting goals when it is needed to get 3 points against any team is really amazing. Galatasaray playing against Göztepe today I was expecting them to end the game in a 1:1 draw seeing how their performance was going on the game but seeing that they were able to score the winning goal shows that they are ready to fight to ensure they win the league title this season. Galatasaray is 8 points ahead of Fenerbahce who is in the second place in the league table, it all depends on Galatasaray to drop points and Fenerbahce win matches to close the 8 points gap before we can see competition in the league again this season but for now I think Galatasaray is unstoppable.

You probably think that the league in Turkey is only played on the field.

I can't prove it, but Galatasaray is protected by the referees. You probably didn't watch the game and are commenting based on the result. Galatasaray players are not given yellow cards. The penalty that Galatasaray won would not have been given in other leagues. Let's say the penalty was given to Galatasaray, the referee would not have given that penalty to Galatasaray's opponent.
Göztepe also had a chance and even Var didn't call him to review it.
Things work very differently in the Turkish League.

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Quote from: Palakka on January 05, 2025, 12:55:53 PM

Quote from: xzone on January 05, 2025, 07:49:34 AM

Quote from: ajanwalker on January 05, 2025, 01:31:12 AM

I don't understand what the purpose of the Turkish Super League is. Yesterday Galatasaray won such a penalty that it is impossible not to be surprised. If the same position had been in Göztepe's favor, could the referee have given that penalty? I don't think so!
Barış Alper is making gestures to the linesman and I don't think he said any good words, but Barış is not even shown a yellow card.
Göztepe has a position, even if the referee doesn't see it as a penalty, I don't understand why Var doesn't step in and say review that position.
The Turkish league was not of a quality to watch anyway. If Galatasaray continues like this, it will easily declare its championship at the end of March. The conditions are not equal here

Yes, they play very well in some matches, but this year's champion seems to have been determined in advance. Even if Galatasaray plays very badly this year, they will be made champions, it is obvious that other teams do not even need to claim to be first. Maybe we will watch a good fight to be second, but the champion is already clear. Galatasaray somehow finds a way to earn 3 points. Sometimes the opposing team helps, sometimes the referees support. In the end, the 3 points always go to Galatasaray

I think it is very difficult for other teams to destroy and break the dominance of galatasaray in the superlig so far, even with their poor performance in the match like as against Göztepe, galatasaray is still able to win and continue their dominance in the superlig this season, in my opinion the ability and mentality possessed by galatasaray is a factor that continues to make them able to show impressive performance in league, although at the beginning of the season they got strong pressure from fenerbache but slowly they got up and starting walked alone to get the championship trophy, actually we hope there will be tough competition this season in the superlig after the arrival of mourinho, but as you said indeed there is no better team than galatasaray in the superlig.

From the performance of Galatasaray I think yes it is very difficult for any team to beat them this season because they may not be playing so well in a match but the energy and the zeal hey have got this season to keep getting goals when it is needed to get 3 points against any team is really amazing. Galatasaray playing against Göztepe today I was expecting them to end the game in a 1:1 draw seeing how their performance was going on the game but seeing that they were able to score the winning goal shows that they are ready to fight to ensure they win the league title this season. Galatasaray is 8 points ahead of Fenerbahce who is in the second place in the league table, it all depends on Galatasaray to drop points and Fenerbahce win matches to close the 8 points gap before we can see competition in the league again this season but for now I think Galatasaray is unstoppable.

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Fenerbahçe beat Hatayspor 2-1 at home tonight. There was a 10-day break before this match. But it was as if Fenerbahçe hadn't prepared at all. Dzeko and Tadic had good performances at the beginning of the season. But they have adapted to the team. They struggled physically in this match. Both players are very experienced and very talented. But they are also old. Dzeko missed a penalty in the last minutes. If El Nesry had taken the penalty he could have scored a hattrick. There also seem to be incompatibilities within the team. If they make more big mistakes in a few games, some of the problems within the team might come to the surface. I don't think they have a sense of team spirit. And they don't have a good squad and a good tactic. It is very difficult for them to be champions this season. I think they have to make very good signings in the winter transfer window.

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Quote from: xzone on January 05, 2025, 07:49:34 AM

Quote from: ajanwalker on January 05, 2025, 01:31:12 AM

I don't understand what the purpose of the Turkish Super League is. Yesterday Galatasaray won such a penalty that it is impossible not to be surprised. If the same position had been in Göztepe's favor, could the referee have given that penalty? I don't think so!
Barış Alper is making gestures to the linesman and I don't think he said any good words, but Barış is not even shown a yellow card.
Göztepe has a position, even if the referee doesn't see it as a penalty, I don't understand why Var doesn't step in and say review that position.
The Turkish league was not of a quality to watch anyway. If Galatasaray continues like this, it will easily declare its championship at the end of March. The conditions are not equal here

Yes, they play very well in some matches, but this year's champion seems to have been determined in advance. Even if Galatasaray plays very badly this year, they will be made champions, it is obvious that other teams do not even need to claim to be first. Maybe we will watch a good fight to be second, but the champion is already clear. Galatasaray somehow finds a way to earn 3 points. Sometimes the opposing team helps, sometimes the referees support. In the end, the 3 points always go to Galatasaray

I think it is very difficult for other teams to destroy and break the dominance of galatasaray in the superlig so far, even with their poor performance in the match like as against Göztepe, galatasaray is still able to win and continue their dominance in the superlig this season, in my opinion the ability and mentality possessed by galatasaray is a factor that continues to make them able to show impressive performance in league, although at the beginning of the season they got strong pressure from fenerbache but slowly they got up and starting walked alone to get the championship trophy, actually we hope there will be tough competition this season in the superlig after the arrival of mourinho, but as you said indeed there is no better team than galatasaray in the superlig.

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Galatasaray took 3 points against Göztepe with a bad game. Almost all the players were very bad. Sanchez had his worst game, Muslera made mistakes, Yunus scored but was ineffective on the pitch, Torreira is still far from his old form. But Galatasaray won the game at the end of the day and that's what matters. A team can't play perfect football every game, can't play every game with the same tempo. The important thing in those games is to win, even if it's by one goal, even if it's difficult. They got an important 3 points from a very critical match. Galatasaray is the closest team to the championship by winning 3 points in such critical matches. By the way, congratulations to Göztepe, they are a very good team. They play with a good game plan.

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Quote from: SquallLeonhart on January 05, 2025, 10:01:53 AM

Honestly, it is not going to be some other team doing better and getting the title over galatasaray one day, we are going to see Galatasaray become a lot worse and lose the title that way. It's almost always like that in most cases, there are a lot of teams that win the title, and then become worse and earn less points.

There are exceptions of course, like how Leverkusen did amazing, but in most cases it's the team that dominates the league, ends up being bad. Look at City, can you say that it's Liverpool that is playing better than City which caused them to be at the top? Or are we talking about how City is doing terrible now and that's why they are not at the top? One day Galatasaray will be like City, and will start to be bad, maybe this season, or maybe next season but that will happen and that's going to be the reason why someone else wins as well. This isn't something we can predict when it will happen, so we just have to wait and see.

At some point it's bound to happen. No team will dominate forever a certain championship and to be honest , Turkey football deserves a new team to be champion but they also need to INVEST properly in football and try to obtain important results in European Competitions because in the last 1.5 decade , nothing has been achieved by Turkish football besides betting scandals , beating refs and so on ...which is a disgrace to football.

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Honestly, it is not going to be some other team doing better and getting the title over galatasaray one day, we are going to see Galatasaray become a lot worse and lose the title that way. It's almost always like that in most cases, there are a lot of teams that win the title, and then become worse and earn less points.

There are exceptions of course, like how Leverkusen did amazing, but in most cases it's the team that dominates the league, ends up being bad. Look at City, can you say that it's Liverpool that is playing better than City which caused them to be at the top? Or are we talking about how City is doing terrible now and that's why they are not at the top? One day Galatasaray will be like City, and will start to be bad, maybe this season, or maybe next season but that will happen and that's going to be the reason why someone else wins as well. This isn't something we can predict when it will happen, so we just have to wait and see.

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Quote from: ajanwalker on January 05, 2025, 01:31:12 AM

I don't understand what the purpose of the Turkish Super League is. Yesterday Galatasaray won such a penalty that it is impossible not to be surprised. If the same position had been in Göztepe's favor, could the referee have given that penalty? I don't think so!
Barış Alper is making gestures to the linesman and I don't think he said any good words, but Barış is not even shown a yellow card.
Göztepe has a position, even if the referee doesn't see it as a penalty, I don't understand why Var doesn't step in and say review that position.
The Turkish league was not of a quality to watch anyway. If Galatasaray continues like this, it will easily declare its championship at the end of March. The conditions are not equal here

Yes, they play very well in some matches, but this year's champion seems to have been determined in advance. Even if Galatasaray plays very badly this year, they will be made champions, it is obvious that other teams do not even need to claim to be first. Maybe we will watch a good fight to be second, but the champion is already clear. Galatasaray somehow finds a way to earn 3 points. Sometimes the opposing team helps, sometimes the referees support. In the end, the 3 points always go to Galatasaray

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Galatasaray still win at the end of the day. That Göztepe game was a really tough one honestly. They have been one of the numbered teams in the league that can make serious difficulties for top teams of the league. But they couldn't prevent a 2-1 loss.

This is all thanks to Galatasaray's strong scoring skills of course.

They have nearly an average of 3 goals per game so far which is really insane... This is enough to keep them in the lead in a safe distance from others here.

However if they want success in the Europa League as well then they need new signings for the defense. If you noticed they conceded so many goals in league phase already.

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Quote from: Slow death on January 04, 2025, 04:43:09 PM

There is no doubt that having reached a loan agreement for Osimhen to play for Galatasaray was the best decision that the Galatasaray management made, if they had not done so, then they would be losing points, it might not be in the sense of losing games, but in the sense of having many draws. Each game it becomes clearer that Galatasaray will become champions again and the question I keep asking myself is the following: when will the other teams dethrone Galatasaray and also become champions? because I'm not seeing big changes in the other teams so that they can compete with Galatasaray

Yeah, I mean they didn't know Icardi would be injured for the entire season before the season started, so we do not really know what's going to happen, but at the end we ended up seeing something much bigger and that's the most normal thing. I personally believe that we are not ending up with a great deal or anything too simple, that's not going to end up with confusing situation, but at the end of the day Icardi is gone, so they apparently needed Osimhen.

Plus, while Osimhen does score, what's better for Galatasaray is that Osimhen is too quick and everywhere, so he gets the attention of the defense as well, so it allows others to find better chances to score, that's why we have multiple players who are scoring more than they used to.

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I don't understand what the purpose of the Turkish Super League is. Yesterday Galatasaray won such a penalty that it is impossible not to be surprised. If the same position had been in Göztepe's favor, could the referee have given that penalty? I don't think so!
Barış Alper is making gestures to the linesman and I don't think he said any good words, but Barış is not even shown a yellow card.
Göztepe has a position, even if the referee doesn't see it as a penalty, I don't understand why Var doesn't step in and say review that position.
The Turkish league was not of a quality to watch anyway. If Galatasaray continues like this, it will easily declare its championship at the end of March. The conditions are not equal here

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