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Quote from: theskillzdatklls on September 24, 2022, 10:03:16 AM

GG. I wonder if any influencers will be able to migrate over to Odysee or some such platform that isn't subject to such hostile takes.

I doubt the gambling streamers would make the switch to other platforms aside from Youtube unless they'd receive an offer or contract similar to what Youtube is doing to other big Twitch streamers.

Quote from: pawanjain on September 24, 2022, 10:07:59 AM

Why not ? I personally think that banning gambling streams is the right decision.

It's definitely a good move for Twitch since they've been doing fine before gambling became one of the big trends on their platform

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Does anyone here knows whether some competing streaming services have stepped forward on social media to clarify they are going to give support to gambling streams?
I wonder because due to the public impact this measure from Twitch has (which is basically all around internet), this should be a perfect opportunity for other websites to get a massive stream of advertisement and (in the best case scenario for them) a massive migration of gambling streamers. However, a migration of significant volume of gamblers is unlikely, considering how big Twitch is and its popularity, I could be wrong but it seems they have the streaming monopoly together with Youtube.

Youtube used to have the monopoly before, but people started to get tired of the terms and services/ moderation getting harder to comply to, so they moved. Could the same happen to Twitch?

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Quote from: bullrun2024bro on September 24, 2022, 10:34:02 AM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on September 21, 2022, 12:51:18 PM

Today, Twitch took to their verified Twitter account to announce that they will be banning gambling streaming in their platform by October 18th this year, - this is less than a month from today.

Thanks for the information! The news was new to me and I wonder if this regulation applies only to the U.S. viewers and streamers or is it worldwide?

In any case, I think the regulation is good. Even if many casinos will see the decision differently, of course. Because on Twitch, the audience is usually very young and usually not even 18 years old. Many very young users thus get to enjoy casino content that is actually not intended for their age.

For this reason, a good decision: Because if you take the principle of "gamble responsible" seriously, you also have to make sure that children and young people do not get access to gambling content.

Everywhere. Another shot-themselves-in-the-foot moment.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on September 21, 2022, 12:51:18 PM

Today, Twitch took to their verified Twitter account to announce that they will be banning gambling streaming in their platform by October 18th this year, - this is less than a month from today.

Thanks for the information! The news was new to me and I wonder if this regulation applies only to the U.S. viewers and streamers or is it worldwide?

In any case, I think the regulation is good. Even if many casinos will see the decision differently, of course. Because on Twitch, the audience is usually very young and usually not even 18 years old. Many very young users thus get to enjoy casino content that is actually not intended for their age.

For this reason, a good decision: Because if you take the principle of "gamble responsible" seriously, you also have to make sure that children and young people do not get access to gambling content.

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Quote from: Eureka_07 on September 23, 2022, 02:48:33 PM

Quote from: pawanjain on September 23, 2022, 10:45:53 AM

I see. I doubled check their statement about that. Seems like the reason for all of this banning plan is because of those streamers?? that have been sharing and spreading their referral codes and links to their community given that Twitch is prohibiting it.
Why not they just give warning to those people who are doing this. And if they do it again, ban their accounts for amount of time or permanently ban it. That's better than banning those streams for those games like slots.

Why not ? I personally think that banning gambling streams is the right decision.
Besides that, what good does it do by allowing influencers to continue streaming gambling activities anyway ?

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GG. I wonder if any influencers will be able to migrate over to Odysee or some such platform that isn't subject to such hostile takes.

As YouTube, Twitch and other such Big Tech platforms clamp down, it would be nice to see decentralized blockchain tech, like Odysee, step up and take that part of the market share for that very reason.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 24, 2022, 06:11:51 AM

And that is obvious, maybe twitch gambler influencers will lost this job. They are raking like millions as paid sponsorship, not much for the famous casinos, their players will continue and might experience some growth as online gambling is taking a huge slice of the pie already.

Nevertheless, switching to other platforms is the only way for them. And it will be interesting how Twitch revenue will be after this ban.

I don't think we are going to see a big difference in twitch revenues after the ban. The main question will be how many of the big gambling streamers are trying to take their viewers to different platform, and how many streamers will stick with twitch. Instead of stopping their gambling streams, the streamers can switch to American licensed casinos and continue the stream. Which in return also means that twitch has no problem with gambling as long as it's licensed and regulated. A third option could also be that streamers try to mobilise their fan base and push back. Why should twitch only allow USA licensed casinos? With enough support this exemption could be widened to maybe include European countries as well, or casinos licensed in Macau. Twitch has a very international customer base and shouldn't only be focused on American law.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on September 21, 2022, 12:51:18 PM

What do you guys think of this development?
According to the published article, the reason for the ban is due to backlash they(Twitch) received from influencers.

Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?

Mmm, in my opinion, the reason shared is rubbish. It's useless to impose such a ban as this may affect the user experience badly.
Many people are making good earnings by twitch, and setting such a ban may affect its users, and they would switch to other platforms.

And that is obvious, maybe twitch gambler influencers will lost this job. They are raking like millions as paid sponsorship, not much for the famous casinos, their players will continue and might experience some growth as online gambling is taking a huge slice of the pie already.

Nevertheless, switching to other platforms is the only way for them. And it will be interesting how Twitch revenue will be after this ban.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on September 21, 2022, 12:51:18 PM

What do you guys think of this development?
According to the published article, the reason for the ban is due to backlash they(Twitch) received from influencers.

Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?

Mmm, in my opinion, the reason shared is rubbish. It's useless to impose such a ban as this may affect the user experience badly.
Many people are making good earnings by twitch, and setting such a ban may affect its users, and they would switch to other platforms.
One of the platform would be youtube streaming.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 23, 2022, 03:28:05 PM

Sports betting and poker are big bets, especially football where the soccer mafia still dominates in both online and offline casinos so some people exclude these 2 gambling. Not only that, if we look at the list of other gambling, it may be that it will be excluded even without a US license.

Lately, I feel like I have been transported back to the era of soccer gambling with the rise of mafia issues. But other than that I personally don't think it has anything to do with Twitch. Because they are official in this case only focus on banning casino streaming. It's hard to believe that the Twitch platform is one of the biggest at attracting gamblers and after their policy of still blocking live influencer play, I prefer to call it a game. Be it performing in front of a slot machine or even playing a war game. Twitch looks like a blunder just because a group of people who are not responsible for their own money then generalizes those who like to gamble.

Maybe it has nothing to do but Twitch as a video service used by many users today is getting bigger than it was a few years ago so it makes these influencers feel free to upload something they like or want to get a lot of followers. And those who like gambling will try to upload their gambling activities on Twitch, which makes many people argue that Twitch has allowed that to happen on their site. And in the end, they asked Twitch to sanction influencers for banning uploading their content. Maybe from the user's point of view, they should always pay attention to what they see on Twitch and if the content isn't for them, they can skip it and watch other content.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 23, 2022, 03:28:05 PM

Sports betting and poker are big bets, especially football where the soccer mafia still dominates in both online and offline casinos so some people exclude these 2 gambling. Not only that, if we look at the list of other gambling, it may be that it will be excluded even without a US license.

Lately, I feel like I have been transported back to the era of soccer gambling with the rise of mafia issues. But other than that I personally don't think it has anything to do with Twitch. Because they are official in this case only focus on banning casino streaming. It's hard to believe that the Twitch platform is one of the biggest at attracting gamblers and after their policy of still blocking live influencer play, I prefer to call it a game. Be it performing in front of a slot machine or even playing a war game. Twitch looks like a blunder just because a group of people who are not responsible for their own money then generalizes those who like to gamble.

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Quote from: aioc on September 23, 2022, 08:44:27 AM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on September 21, 2022, 12:51:18 PM

Today, Twitch took to their verified Twitter account to announce that they will be banning gambling streaming in their platform by October 18th this year, - this is less than a month from today.
In their announcement, they said the banned gambling sites will include stake.com, Rollbit.com, Duelbits.com, Roobet.com etc.
They said that they will identify other gambling platforms and ban them too as the move forward.

What do you guys think of this development?
According to the published article, the reason for the ban is due to backlash they(Twitch) received from influencers.

Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?

They want to be above standard and they want to be competitive because of streaming, Twitch.tv has become popular among other niche streamers they attained popularity and this is what makes them competitive but they want their reputation among its users clean, they are enjoying popularity since they launched in 2009 and they don't want their platform to get harm with these criticisms, anyway these gambling streamers can transfer to other platforms I'm sure their followers will follow them on other platforms.

They simply don't want to be involved in a legal scuffle against those who are voicing out their opinions on the prevalence of gambling streamers in the said platform. It would be a long and winding battle and I'm pretty sure Twitch just chose the easy way out. If there aren't any opinions that are against the gambling streams, I'm sure that Twitch wouldn't decide to go after these gambling streamers. Even though they can take it to the court, it's just a long and winding process that they need to undertake, and that time is better spent somewhere else.

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Quote from: virasog on September 23, 2022, 12:02:31 PM

Quote from: dothebeats on September 22, 2022, 07:48:14 PM

Finally.

Gambling content creators can still upload their content somewhere else, or perhaps someone can take advantage of this situation and create a gambling-only live streaming site and they can stay in there. Twitch isn't known for always choosing the greater good for its viewers and content creators, but this one IMO shows that if people fought hard for something good, companies will still give in simply because they know the repercussions.

Perhaps they should go next with some 'just chatting' creators that are somewhat implying lewdness on their content. Lots of teens are in that platform and that is one way to also poison their minds.

This is why we need decentralized video sharing platforms so that there are no censorship and rules which have no wisdom.

I know there are some platforms where you can share live streaming and stuff but since they are not popular, the streamers usually make efforts to make their presence there. It's time the content creators, live streamers and viewers move towards decentralized platforms.

I totally agree with you, and to this effect, I can say that many projects (crypto based) have attempted creating a decentralized, or crypto based streaming platforms, but unfortunately, non of them have succeeded, I remember when YouTube started banning accounts of crypto live streamers, a particular streaming platform (can't remember it name now) was launched around that time, some of the YouTubers at that time started registering accounts on this new platform, but unfortunately for the new platform, YouTube retraced their step and started restoring accounts they previously deleted, that was how crypto currencies streamers all flock back to youtube and the new streaming platform was totally forgotten all of a sudden.

So I personally believe it is time, this guys come together, form an alliance and create a decentralized streaming platform where no one will censor the other or dictate what others should stream and what they should not.

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Quote from: UpAgain on September 21, 2022, 03:02:24 PM

All these gambling sites can die. Imagine if youtube ban ads they don't have as many as visitors. as now.

Maybe not dead in carrying out promotions or even in the future we will see all casino companies get together and create a special social media where they are completely free to live stream without the need for restrictions. Maybe under certain conditions, every casino must comply with KYC. Twitch has taken a lot of precautions and perhaps this decision is the tip of the iceberg for the summer ahead. Prior to October 18th, there are certain actions that every casino must take. Because what Twitch mentions is the biggest and most reputable casino. After all, they don't want to lose a lot of gamblers or rather visitors who bet.

Quote from: acroman08 on September 21, 2022, 03:54:09 PM

anyway, just to be clear, they are banning streaming content from gambling sites that do not have US license? but would also allow content from gambling sites to stream sports betting content and poker as long as they focus on those fields despite not having a US license?

Sports betting and poker are big bets, especially football where the soccer mafia still dominates in both online and offline casinos so some people exclude these 2 gambling. Not only that, if we look at the list of other gambling, it may be that it will be excluded even without a US license.

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Quote from: pawanjain on September 23, 2022, 10:45:53 AM

I see. I doubled check their statement about that. Seems like the reason for all of this banning plan is because of those streamers?? that have been sharing and spreading their referral codes and links to their community given that Twitch is prohibiting it.
Why not they just give warning to those people who are doing this. And if they do it again, ban their accounts for amount of time or permanently ban it. That's better than banning those streams for those games like slots.

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Quote from: Mauser on September 22, 2022, 03:11:38 AM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on September 21, 2022, 12:51:18 PM

What do you guys think of this development?
According to the published article, the reason for the ban is due to backlash they(Twitch) received from influencers.

Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?

That is a pretty big development for the gambling streamers who rely on Twitch to make money. With less than a month that is going to create a lot of problems. I don't like that Twitch seems to be controlled by the influencers and they can decide what should be streamed and what not? So it's fine for 12 year old kids to see girls in bikinis all day on twitch and donate money to them, but it's not okay for adults to watch gambling online?

I do not think that's fine, is it? I mean if there are such disgusting things there then it should be banned right away and it would be seriously disturbing to learn that's going on.

I get the ASMR type of women, they are grown woman and you are paying them money to see them and hear them and so forth which makes sense, there are even adult channels with more things, that always made sense to me and I understand it, would never pay a cent because there are free versions out there, but that doesn't change the fact that they are at least over 18, if there are under 18 kids there doing this, that's going to make me sick for real, can't even comprehend how horrible that must be.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on September 23, 2022, 11:00:41 AM

It's sad to see twitch will start to ban gambling streaming especially slots games because we're know slots are very addicting games and that's what make gamblers stay for around couple of hours to in front of their monitor. I wonder what's behind reason why they're ban gambling streaming because there's many online games are similar with gambling e.g. gacha, why they're not banning a whole games that has gacha? many people spend a lot of money to get limited skin.

I guess they're just protecting their reputation but it's just so saddening that streamers have to sacrifice because we all know that gambling streamers also provide entertainment for their viewers. It will affect many streamers, especially those who do it as a main source of income. I hope gambling streamers will still find the right platform where they will not get banned anymore.

Twitch To Ban Gambling Streaming because they don't want to promote gambling now. many days ago youtube also banned Gambling Streaming. Because they now consider gambling as something bad and they chose this process to protect the youth from it. This matter has disappointed a lot and many people think that this decision is right

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Quote from: dothebeats on September 22, 2022, 07:48:14 PM

Finally.

Gambling content creators can still upload their content somewhere else, or perhaps someone can take advantage of this situation and create a gambling-only live streaming site and they can stay in there. Twitch isn't known for always choosing the greater good for its viewers and content creators, but this one IMO shows that if people fought hard for something good, companies will still give in simply because they know the repercussions.

Perhaps they should go next with some 'just chatting' creators that are somewhat implying lewdness on their content. Lots of teens are in that platform and that is one way to also poison their minds.

This is why we need decentralized video sharing platforms so that there are no censorship and rules which have no wisdom.

I know there are some platforms where you can share live streaming and stuff but since they are not popular, the streamers usually make efforts to make their presence there. It's time the content creators, live streamers and viewers move towards decentralized platforms.

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Quote from: Eureka_07 on September 23, 2022, 11:31:58 AM

Quote from: pawanjain on September 23, 2022, 10:45:53 AM

Hence influencers won't have any big platform now that Twitch is banning gambling streams.

YouTube has videos for gambling. There are a lot just like Twitch. However, I am not aware if they are allowing gambling stream or there are people who are doing that. But I can assure to you, recorded videos of gambling such as sport, slots, live games, etc. are present in YouTube.
Also, as far as I know Twitch only plans to restrict slot streams, not gambling in general. Sports gambling is still good. Live games, I do not know.

As of now Twitch is planning to restrict slot as well as roulette and dice game streams.
May be in future they might also restrict sports gambling. I don't think live games would be banned.
It's very hard to manipulate the result of live games and so influencers won't be able to influence others into it.
From that perspective such games streaming may not be banned by Twitch.

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Quote from: pawanjain on September 23, 2022, 10:45:53 AM

Hence influencers won't have any big platform now that Twitch is banning gambling streams.

YouTube has videos for gambling. There are a lot just like Twitch. However, I am not aware if they are allowing gambling stream or there are people who are doing that. But I can assure to you, recorded videos of gambling such as sport, slots, live games, etc. are present in YouTube.
Also, as far as I know Twitch only plans to restrict slot streams, not gambling in general. Sports gambling is still good. Live games, I do not know.

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