Twitch To Ban Gambling Streaming By October 18th. - page 9.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 26, 2022, 09:41:17 AM

Quote from: pawanjain on September 24, 2022, 09:07:59 AM

Why not ? I personally think that banning gambling streams is the right decision.
Besides that, what good does it do by allowing influencers to continue streaming gambling activities anyway ?

Bro, it's a shame if you feel it's the right decision when the casino you use as a signature is also prohibited from streaming. Related to the use of influencers is to develop the casino into a fast promotion path and have more influence over the casino. Without influencers as promoters, there probably wouldn't be a famous casino today. As influencers are now competing for a special share, moreover the casinos provide great incentives.

Almost all have a bright spot, Drake will be negotiating this issue and Dlive is one of the solutions we are now hearing about. If Dlive can provide space and has agreed on what will be discussed later regarding streaming gambling, all gambling casinos especially crypto gambling can put it to good use. Twitch can no longer be negotiated if without a US license they still refuse.

You are taking the context all wrong. You should first understand in what context has Twitch made those bans.
Not only Duelbits but most of the popular casinos are now restricted. Also, not all the games are banned but the few major ones.
Also, it's not because of the gambling platforms have done anything wrong but it's the influencers are who are using the streaming platform in a wrong way.
Ideally, Twitch should have restricted those people who are using the streaming platform in a wrong way but they chose to ban gambling streams all together.
There are people who get influneced by these people into making high bets, some even scam others and lose all their money.
So I don't think there's anything wrong with that. As far as promotions are considered these reputed gambling platforms have various other ways for promotions and are remarkably doing well.

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Quote from: pawanjain on September 24, 2022, 09:07:59 AM

Why not ? I personally think that banning gambling streams is the right decision.
Besides that, what good does it do by allowing influencers to continue streaming gambling activities anyway ?

Bro, it's a shame if you feel it's the right decision when the casino you use as a signature is also prohibited from streaming. Related to the use of influencers is to develop the casino into a fast promotion path and have more influence over the casino. Without influencers as promoters, there probably wouldn't be a famous casino today. As influencers are now competing for a special share, moreover the casinos provide great incentives.

Almost all have a bright spot, Drake will be negotiating this issue and Dlive is one of the solutions we are now hearing about. If Dlive can provide space and has agreed on what will be discussed later regarding streaming gambling, all gambling casinos especially crypto gambling can put it to good use. Twitch can no longer be negotiated if without a US license they still refuse.

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It was inevitable due to the popularity and lack of control on who can whatch the steams for Twitch to try and regulate it.

At Bspin.io we've taken a different approach and we have streamers streaming directly in the casino lobby where you can also bet behind them.

It's a smaller scale but it will grow in it's natural environment.

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Quote from: rdbase on September 25, 2022, 08:37:29 AM

Never had heard of this platform for streaming before and will assume there will be others who want to have the influx of the audience that twitch will be giving up due to their decision on the stance of gambling on the platform.

In the past, there was always speculation that streamers could switch to Odysee if the legal situation regarding gambling on Twitch were to change. However, little has happened so far.

In Germany, slot streaming has been prohibited for quite some time. The corresponding streamers have handled it so far that they emigrated to Malta or Madeira and streamed from there. The German legislator was eager to close this loophole in a timely manner anyway - but Twitch is now pre-empting this with a complete ban.

All in all, I can only repeat it again: I think due to the very (!) young audience on Twitch, slots are not the right format for the platform - same as pool streams and other stuff which is still available.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on September 25, 2022, 01:28:47 AM

Quote from: Findingnemo on September 21, 2022, 01:08:19 PM

Yes, probably the company thinks that these influencers can taint their platform among the users which is going to affect the platform so probably they are banning it and maybe government also can be the reason. But why not sport betting and poker which I don't understand? Roll Eyes

Whatever the reason they do that, that's something we will never know. Here we can see that not all well-known influencers are as helpful in the business industry as they are on twitch.

Isn't twitch known as the go-to tool if anyone wants to create content via live streaming? I was just wondering how this affected twitch. did this influencer use the platform to tarnish twitch's name later?

I don't really use the Twitch because only fans ( just for sarcasm) Cheesy

Content creators may affected the users by collecting money from them and gamble with the funds online and when people started doing it then it becomes a negative mark for the whole gambling content creators.

But what the platform should do is ban the creators who is exploiting the users instead of banning the category where they belongs to.

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Quote from: iv4n on September 24, 2022, 12:28:39 PM

That is fine by me, I do agree that government regulations could be too much, and liberal governments are a bit better, but Twitch is in USA and if that means Amazon could not continue to do something (twitch is owned by amazon) then it means its definitely bad enough. Imagine a company that is doing the bare minimum legally, they are paying so little to some people that their workers literally need to get help from states, fre money from tax payers basically goes to pay for Amazon workers, because someone working in Amazon is getting less than starvation wage, and we still see them close gambling streams, imagine how much worse government sees gambling compared to what they let Amazon do before.

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Quote from: theskillzdatklls on September 24, 2022, 09:03:16 AM

GG. I wonder if any influencers will be able to migrate over to Odysee or some such platform that isn't subject to such hostile takes.

As YouTube, Twitch and other such Big Tech platforms clamp down, it would be nice to see decentralized blockchain tech, like Odysee, step up and take that part of the market share for that very reason.

It would be a great move, although the deal breaker is the lack of support from the viewers that will obviously not get there immediately. Odysee is a great platform with ample features for creators but not too attractive to lure in new viewers. Just look at their website and see that it is jam-packed with tons of creators wanting it big and start on platforms that isn't YouTube or Twitch. If they somewhat amp up their marketing and do something to get in new viewers that would be great for everyone.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on September 21, 2022, 11:51:18 AM

Link to the official announcement
Link to publish news: https://remitano.com/home/ng/post/105248-twitch-to-ban-crypto-gambling-livestreams-after-backlash-from-influencers

What do you guys think of this development?
According to the published article, the reason for the ban is due to backlash they(Twitch) received from influencers.

Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?

From what I read from the link above, I was made to understand that this ban that Twitch intends on these gambling sites, is due to the role which they claim Twitch influencers play in making people become addicted to crypto gambling due to live-streaming hosted by these casinos, which to me is equally not enough reason why they should ban these casinos, because a person who will gamble will still gamble not minding if its ban on twitch or not because if twitch doesn't offer this service anymore, people will be glad to move over to an alternative platform that does, likewise.

I guess it's an open debate though, just like when TV started decades ago, and then there are groups saying that it influence their kids etc. So this is the same case here, the only difference is that there are targeting a certain audience, which is the gamblers. However, we all know that we can't control who is watching and so there is a backlash and then the subsequent ban by Twitch. Of course, everyone will just move to a new platform very easy.

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Quote from: theskillzdatklls on September 24, 2022, 09:03:16 AM

GG. I wonder if any influencers will be able to migrate over to Odysee or some such platform that isn't subject to such hostile takes.

As YouTube, Twitch and other such Big Tech platforms clamp down, it would be nice to see decentralized blockchain tech, like Odysee, step up and take that part of the market share for that very reason.

Never had heard of this platform for streaming before and will assume there will be others who want to have the influx of the audience that twitch will be giving up due to their decision on the stance of gambling on the platform.
Stevewilldoit which is a social media influencer recently got banned from youtube for the very same reason. And while on a gambling chat saw it was mentioned he was using rumble, inwhich I haven't heard of either.
This clamp down on gambling streams will have a ripple effect among all other large streaming platforms.
For better or for worse - growing them tenfold or shrinking their platform viewership.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on September 21, 2022, 11:51:18 AM

What do you guys think of this development?
According to the published article, the reason for the ban is due to backlash they(Twitch) received from influencers.

Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?

I believe it's very understandable. Twitch is a centralized service, sooner or later a "trade-off" will be made by the people who own/run the service to protect the it from futher backlashes. The reason why doesn't have to warrant the decision for the ban. In fact, it should be expected.

Can anyone post links of Twitch users who stream their gambling activities in the mentioned casinos? I want to see what caused the "backlash".

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on September 24, 2022, 12:16:07 PM

In my nation we had a whole uproar about the scammers on twitch. They would steal credit cards of people, then they would end up with talking to streamers, give them like %20 of the money and keep the %80. Its obvious the way they did it, use the credit card to send donations, and then whatever goes to streamer, they will take back %80 of it and they would tell the streamer not to worry about it as well. Basically its money laundering and credit card scam at the same time. This is just one example, the depths of crypto gambling streaming is too vast, and twitch had every right to do it.

That's why if you are the owner of twitch then a warning should be there after you visit the site and also when you are going to do a transaction because of scammers using the platform to scam people. What I was going to say is that twitch have to be more strict about transactions when it comes to gambling though some countries ban gambling. As I said before, if it doesn't work then banning gambling streams would be the best choice to prevent scammers using th site to scam people.

Quote from: iv4n on September 24, 2022, 12:28:39 PM

I don't think that Twitch did this because they wanted it. Twitch was earning money from this, but now the pressure from the government regulations is too hard, so they had to change their policies.

That's one of the reason why they have to do it. Who would want to miss the opportunity to earn money in gambling related. I'm sure twitch right now must have thinking of a plan or a way where they would still let streamers stream gambling videos and earn money at the same time that doesn't violate government regulations. If it's not full ban then they should be planning some ideas for gambling in my opinion instead of completely ban anything that is gambling related before gamblers find an alternative ways to continue what they do.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on September 21, 2022, 11:51:18 AM

Link to the official announcement
Link to publish news: https://remitano.com/home/ng/post/105248-twitch-to-ban-crypto-gambling-livestreams-after-backlash-from-influencers

What do you guys think of this development?
According to the published article, the reason for the ban is due to backlash they(Twitch) received from influencers.

Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?

From what I read from the link above, I was made to understand that this ban that Twitch intends on these gambling sites, is due to the role which they claim Twitch influencers play in making people become addicted to crypto gambling due to live-streaming hosted by these casinos, which to me is equally not enough reason why they should ban these casinos, because a person who will gamble will still gamble not minding if its ban on twitch or not because if twitch doesn't offer this service anymore, people will be glad to move over to an alternative platform that does, likewise.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on September 21, 2022, 01:08:19 PM

Yes, probably the company thinks that these influencers can taint their platform among the users which is going to affect the platform so probably they are banning it and maybe government also can be the reason. But why not sport betting and poker which I don't understand? Roll Eyes

Whatever the reason they do that, that's something we will never know. Here we can see that not all well-known influencers are as helpful in the business industry as they are on twitch.

Isn't twitch known as the go-to tool if anyone wants to create content via live streaming? I was just wondering how this affected twitch. did this influencer use the platform to tarnish twitch's name later?

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Quote from: swogerino on September 23, 2022, 02:41:25 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on September 23, 2022, 01:09:54 AM

This isn't really a big deal considering the fact that there are several popular alternatives to shift to if they actually go through with the ban.

Streamers will most likely shift to platforms like YouTube etc and their followers will shift there too. The silver lining here is that this ban will make it more difficult for scammers to scam naive, gullible gamblers around the world.

Exactly.Nothing will change,Youtube is another giant operated by Google and offer the live streaming.My daughter always like to watch live streaming of the different streamers for kids here and she is just 2.5 years old.There are loads of them and if Twitch goes on with the ban of gambling streams so far in Youtube I have seen a lot of huge wins in different slots there so I think this platform will be an accommodating one and it will just ask if you are above 18 years old to enter.Pretty simple.

I would guess that youtube will ban them too, and many other places will too and only a small handful of smaller places will allow it. Let's face it, it would be a smart decision to ban gambling on a place 2.5 year old kids could watch. It just doesn't make sense, they do not even comprehend money the way we do and they keep on buying stuff for their game characters at that age if they are given the possibility, like if you leave your card in there.

So, it is smarter to just let them go, and that way you would be able to feel assured about the fact that they can't just happen to watch some gambling streamer losing thousands of dollars like nothing and put wrong thoughts on their minds.

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Quote from: Hispo on September 24, 2022, 10:19:41 AM

Youtube used to have the monopoly before, but people started to get tired of the terms and services/ moderation getting harder to comply to, so they moved. Could the same happen to Twitch?

Besides YouTube, there are no other contenders strong enough to pose any threat. Look at the changes they made yet, the site rakes in almost 1 million of video time daily.

At first, I thought there were good enough alternatives, perhaps Trovo, Mixer, Periscope... or even Facebook Gaming.

the firsts ones are rather small to contest against Amazon/Twitch, Youtube has lost its attractive in the eyes of content creators (it seems you can't even swear without risking the right to monetize one's videos), the only one which is left is Facebook, I thought they were doing ok, however after a brief investigation it seems they are not catching as much audience as they wanted to, to the point they seem to be terminating their official app (Facebook Gaming) on the Play store and only supporting stream directky on internet browsers.

Perhaps if Meta did not waste so much money in the Metaverse and used all that capital to improve and lure creators to their website with better rewards, they could have become an actual competition to Twitch, but they prefered to test their luck with Mark's vision.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on September 24, 2022, 12:16:07 PM

Quote from: nakamura12 on September 24, 2022, 11:44:14 AM

In my nation we had a whole uproar about the scammers on twitch. They would steal credit cards of people, then they would end up with talking to streamers, give them like %20 of the money and keep the %80. Its obvious the way they did it, use the credit card to send donations, and then whatever goes to streamer, they will take back %80 of it and they would tell the streamer not to worry about it as well. Basically its money laundering and credit card scam at the same time. This is just one example, the depths of crypto gambling streaming is too vast, and twitch had every right to do it.

I don't think that Twitch did this because they wanted it. Twitch was earning money from this, but now the pressure from the government regulations is too hard, so they had to change their policies. In the end, this is not a full ban, it just covers "unregulated casinos", mostly crypto-oriented ones... because they found heaven there! So it's not like they are making some ethical and moral turn, they just favor what government says it's alright, because with this move they will lose some traffic and profit for sure, crypto enthusiasts will find or create alternative.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on September 24, 2022, 11:44:14 AM

In my nation we had a whole uproar about the scammers on twitch. They would steal credit cards of people, then they would end up with talking to streamers, give them like %20 of the money and keep the %80. Its obvious the way they did it, use the credit card to send donations, and then whatever goes to streamer, they will take back %80 of it and they would tell the streamer not to worry about it as well. Basically its money laundering and credit card scam at the same time. This is just one example, the depths of crypto gambling streaming is too vast, and twitch had every right to do it.

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Quote from: NotATether on September 23, 2022, 06:57:34 AM

Didn't they already ban gambling sites? I remember some time ago thee was a lottery or something on Stake and when Eddy (CEO) was doing the livestream it suddenly went off the air and people were panicking.

What a perfect timing did by twitch there. If im the one participating in the lottery and if I have a good number of tickets, I think will also do the same thing which is to panic badly because I will think there are manipulations going on the background but what happened last time is only a temporary ban because after some time, they are back again streaming on twitch but not anymore these upcoming days/weeks since twitch said that they will now be banned and this one might be permanent already.

Twitch is a huge platform so banning gambling streams there can contribute a lot to avoid twitch users, especially young people to play gambling.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on September 21, 2022, 01:00:01 PM

According to
https://www.thegamer.com/twitch-ban-gambling-sites-october-18/

the reason why influencers are instigating the ban is due to the fact that scammers have taken hold of the streaming platform. I know its a recent online streaming platform, unlike most other existent platforms, and with a rather porous security system, it is a sure haven for scammers to grab their bite off those unsuspecting of their ploy.
This however, is a scare notice for online users to be wary of the modus operandi of how online scammers operate and also to those who use unlicensed gaming sites.

That's what I would do if I own twitch before I can find a way to let streamers able to stream gambling related that will lessen the chance or even giving warning to viewers and streamers of scammers using the platform to find victims to scam or make a place for gambling related room (a place for it or board just like this forum) and also earn from it but if it doesn't work as planned then I'll do what twitch's plan which is to ban gambling stream.

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Quote from: Hispo on September 24, 2022, 10:19:41 AM

Youtube used to have the monopoly before, but people started to get tired of the terms and services/ moderation getting harder to comply to, so they moved. Could the same happen to Twitch?

Besides YouTube, there are no other contenders strong enough to pose any threat. Look at the changes they made yet, the site rakes in almost 1 million of video time daily.

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