Classic manipulation.
Classic scam.
Classic con artist.
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See the screenshot of a post this scammer/con artist "Matthew N Wright" made. He is asking for people to send him video cards for his other company after which he will pay them in BTC. Now, we all know from before he doesn't honor his commitments (1 little bitcoin wtf?!?!?) and tries to weasel out of it when pressed. Do you really think he's going to pay these people for their efforts or just pocket the money after he sells them on Ebay (or uses them for mining). This whole UABB bs of his is just to create the image of "What a great guy he is. He's got a couple of faults right but who doesnt. I think I can trust him.".
Classic manipulation.
Classic scam.
Classic con artist.
Classic manipulation.
Classic scam.
Classic con artist.
Phinneas- the problem I have with Wright is that none- not a single one of his claims are verifiable. He has a school that has literally no presence on the internet, with no alumni. He claims that the semi-functioning webpage for his school is a 'personal backup.'
He claims to have 30 members of his organization, but none of them have said anything on any Bitcoin-related message board that I can see. Perhaps they all want to remain anonymous?
He claims to be a member of a handful of different organizations (UABCI, something in Italy), that I have never heard about other than in his posts- have you? Where do you think these mysterious organizations recruited, if not on a forum such as this? None of these organizations have a website either.
Lastly: he's claiming that, based on the strength of a webpage and not much else, he's managed to convince people to abandon their countries and move to South Korea for no pay. Are they supposed to magically receive work visas? Do none of them have families, jobs, or commitments? Off the strength of his comments on this forum, and his complete lack of a business plan, do you honestly think he could recruit people to move across the world and join him?
Sorry, but this just doesn't pass the smell test.
He claims to have 30 members of his organization, but none of them have said anything on any Bitcoin-related message board that I can see. Perhaps they all want to remain anonymous?
He claims to be a member of a handful of different organizations (UABCI, something in Italy), that I have never heard about other than in his posts- have you? Where do you think these mysterious organizations recruited, if not on a forum such as this? None of these organizations have a website either.
Lastly: he's claiming that, based on the strength of a webpage and not much else, he's managed to convince people to abandon their countries and move to South Korea for no pay. Are they supposed to magically receive work visas? Do none of them have families, jobs, or commitments? Off the strength of his comments on this forum, and his complete lack of a business plan, do you honestly think he could recruit people to move across the world and join him?
Sorry, but this just doesn't pass the smell test.
You points are well taken, tasarz. I have been wrong before! BTW, does anyone know what ever happened to OJ?
Phinneas- the problem I have with Wright is that none- not a single one of his claims are verifiable. He has a school that has literally no presence on the internet, with no alumni. He claims that the semi-functioning webpage for his school is a 'personal backup.'
He claims to have 30 members of his organization, but none of them have said anything on any Bitcoin-related message board that I can see. Perhaps they all want to remain anonymous?
He claims to be a member of a handful of different organizations (UABCI, something in Italy), that I have never heard about other than in his posts- have you? Where do you think these mysterious organizations recruited, if not on a forum such as this? None of these organizations have a website either.
Lastly: he's claiming that, based on the strength of a webpage and not much else, he's managed to convince people to abandon their countries and move to South Korea for no pay. Are they supposed to magically receive work visas? Do none of them have families, jobs, or commitments? Off the strength of his comments on this forum, and his complete lack of a business plan, do you honestly think he could recruit people to move across the world and join him?
Sorry, but this just doesn't pass the smell test.
He claims to have 30 members of his organization, but none of them have said anything on any Bitcoin-related message board that I can see. Perhaps they all want to remain anonymous?
He claims to be a member of a handful of different organizations (UABCI, something in Italy), that I have never heard about other than in his posts- have you? Where do you think these mysterious organizations recruited, if not on a forum such as this? None of these organizations have a website either.
Lastly: he's claiming that, based on the strength of a webpage and not much else, he's managed to convince people to abandon their countries and move to South Korea for no pay. Are they supposed to magically receive work visas? Do none of them have families, jobs, or commitments? Off the strength of his comments on this forum, and his complete lack of a business plan, do you honestly think he could recruit people to move across the world and join him?
Sorry, but this just doesn't pass the smell test.
Lulz. Pretty sure Matthew is a bigger troll than all of us. Look at him dominating that post count.
I still think UABB should collect accreditation data from businesses free to the businesses, and charge only those who want to see it. Sure, consumers may not want to pay something like the BBB just to see if the company they are buying from is legit (though if price is low enough, I'm sure some will), but most transactions out there are business-to-business, and I'm sure businesses looking for new suppliers will gladly pay for a review from a ratings agency for a supplier if they want to make sure the business they are dealing with is legit, financially secure, and will deliver products on time.
I'm not quite sure that Mr. Wright would make a very skilled arbitrator
You took the words right out of my mouth. 
I'm a developer and an idea man. I'm also a businessman, but a particularly opinionated and verbose one. I do not think I best serve as the decision maker alone, which is why there are others to work with me. Also, the critics can relax-- I'm not the one sitting on the accounts judging who would be 'guilty' of fraud. That's not how it works anyway.
As for who actually does the reviews for accreditation, that will be released when we open the site with accreditations.
Correct me if I'm wrong ~~~ The two main issues with M.N.W. and UABB is his personality and the accreditation aspect. So, if someone else came along a few days ago (and was rather new to this forum) and boasted about this same exact website that he created (without the accreditation aspect), we would all be having daily circle jerks while holding holding each other's hands (not impossible when you think about it--that's why the MODs keep the trolls around--Masterb***** On Demand).
THis is my first visit to this thread...the poll response I would have wanted to click would have been:
"It sounds like a good idea but I am not convinced that the person proposing to start it is qualified to operate and manage such a thing or knows what he is really getting into."
And while it's all dandy that the 1 BTC artwork issue is resolved, I'm not quite sure that Mr. Wright would make a very skilled arbitrator based on how that all went. That's part of what the BBB does. (I assume this is modeled after BBB, particularly given the similarity in logo). And the assertion that he can chase down MyBitcoin doesn't strike me as credible.
Great if I'm wrong though - I'd also be likely to take a chance on it as well, knowing that my identity is pretty much in the open and I'm not really out much if it flops.
"It sounds like a good idea but I am not convinced that the person proposing to start it is qualified to operate and manage such a thing or knows what he is really getting into."
And while it's all dandy that the 1 BTC artwork issue is resolved, I'm not quite sure that Mr. Wright would make a very skilled arbitrator based on how that all went. That's part of what the BBB does. (I assume this is modeled after BBB, particularly given the similarity in logo). And the assertion that he can chase down MyBitcoin doesn't strike me as credible.
Great if I'm wrong though - I'd also be likely to take a chance on it as well, knowing that my identity is pretty much in the open and I'm not really out much if it flops.
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"It sounds like a good idea but I am not convinced that the person proposing to start it is qualified to operate and manage such a thing or knows what he is really getting into."
I just tried to include this as an option, but the polling platform won't allow me to because it's longer than 140 characters just like a Twitter tweet.
The amount of effort you take to defend yourself is bordering on insane...
There is like 5 threads bashing you... you have 50 percent of the postings in each...
just sayin
There is like 5 threads bashing you... you have 50 percent of the postings in each...
just sayin
It is insane and he needs help from a mental health provider.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
Requires excessive admiration
Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
Is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Sorry about this Matt. I think I'm the one who provided Bill the NPD info.
ctoon6: Just for clarification, unless someone felt that doing business with a particularly risky and choose the optional escrow services, there would be no handling of any consumer or merchant funds. The UABB simply provides standards for businesses to follow that would provide more accountability for merchants as well as reduce the potential for fraudulent transactions towards and even from consumers.
If I read your original proposal correctly, using your escrow service would've been optional for the customers but businesses would be required to accept payments through it from customers that want to use it. Is that correct?I've always enjoyed reading SA. It's been a source of comedy in my life since I was a kid. Keep up the good work guys.
So you registered in what, 2007ish?
P.S. Does the SomethingAwful forum need any more laughter fuel, cause I can go all day
If they found you funny, someone would have bought you a SomethingAwful account by now.
You can't stop from defending yourself, how many times have you said you're going to step away only to be lured back into a conversation now? Seems very anti-business to not have any sort of common sense to cut your loses and stop hemorrhaging idiocy.
Since you're still here, by all means link some of your school stuff, i can translate! Also where is this money coming from for any start up costs, and the supposed money you spent on your half hour investigation of the mybitcoin owner? Why are executives working for free? What are their backgrounds? What school did you attend? What is your experience with law enforcement you keep mentioning? Were you some sort of school owner/badass drug trafficking cop crossover?
Since you're still here, by all means link some of your school stuff, i can translate! Also where is this money coming from for any start up costs, and the supposed money you spent on your half hour investigation of the mybitcoin owner? Why are executives working for free? What are their backgrounds? What school did you attend? What is your experience with law enforcement you keep mentioning? Were you some sort of school owner/badass drug trafficking cop crossover?
i have an idea, lets ignore him and pretend he does not exist. why should we give him acknowledgement if all he does is go around bsing that he can be trusted, yet provides no proof that he can be.
BitMole. Hahaha
You seriously don't see why people don't take you seriously?
Seriously?
By the way, who are you working with to implement all this framework? What exactly is your business model? What type of software will you be using to streamline all of this? The automatic complaint/fraud system you've been touting, how does it work? Why should any business associate themselves with you? The thought is ridiculous.
What does your staff do? where are you getting the money to pay an executive staff? Why doesn't your school exist, furthermore why isn't there any proof of it existing? There is absolutely nothing about you to be found anywhere related to any business ventures. The facts just point to you being full of shit, which is probably why everyone is saying that. You aren't as clever as you think, it's not everyone else. it's you.
There are so many questions that you have been asked numerous times, but you sidestep them and give this over generalized answer to everything. Not a single fact has been presented.
Seriously?
By the way, who are you working with to implement all this framework? What exactly is your business model? What type of software will you be using to streamline all of this? The automatic complaint/fraud system you've been touting, how does it work? Why should any business associate themselves with you? The thought is ridiculous.
What does your staff do? where are you getting the money to pay an executive staff? Why doesn't your school exist, furthermore why isn't there any proof of it existing? There is absolutely nothing about you to be found anywhere related to any business ventures. The facts just point to you being full of shit, which is probably why everyone is saying that. You aren't as clever as you think, it's not everyone else. it's you.
There are so many questions that you have been asked numerous times, but you sidestep them and give this over generalized answer to everything. Not a single fact has been presented.
Besides the obvious tell tale signs that this guy is full of shit.
1) the constant need to defend himself
2) the pure ignorance to see that he's the primary cause of his own demise through above behavior, not the "trolls"
3) using terms like "lollerskates" "kthnxbye" and other teenager internet talk
4) not having any sense of professionalism
5) the wikipedia page reference links surrounding his school he "owned" not actually existing
6) constantly berating and insulting the community he's trying to win over
7) list goes on and on
conversing about life stories with an idiot 17 year old named atlas (might be atlas)
It's safe to say that he probably has no prior knowledge to anything business related other than maybe a class or two at some community college, and that would even be a surprise because i really can't fathom this kid is older than 17. I doubt he has anyone working for him, as there is no proof other than a sloppily made website that reads like once again, a teenager created it. In all honesty it's probably some kid at home who wanted to be involved or embraced by a cool new thing and made up a bunch of shit. I would be absolutely floored if any of what he claimed was true, as i have never met such a naive and childish person that is an owner of anything beyond a lemonade stand.
If i'm somehow wrong about any of this, you need a class in PR. I don't think mcdonalds got where they are today by insulting their consumer base and having the CEO arguing with people on forums.
1) the constant need to defend himself
2) the pure ignorance to see that he's the primary cause of his own demise through above behavior, not the "trolls"
3) using terms like "lollerskates" "kthnxbye" and other teenager internet talk
4) not having any sense of professionalism
5) the wikipedia page reference links surrounding his school he "owned" not actually existing
6) constantly berating and insulting the community he's trying to win over
7) list goes on and on
conversing about life stories with an idiot 17 year old named atlas (might be atlas)It's safe to say that he probably has no prior knowledge to anything business related other than maybe a class or two at some community college, and that would even be a surprise because i really can't fathom this kid is older than 17. I doubt he has anyone working for him, as there is no proof other than a sloppily made website that reads like once again, a teenager created it. In all honesty it's probably some kid at home who wanted to be involved or embraced by a cool new thing and made up a bunch of shit. I would be absolutely floored if any of what he claimed was true, as i have never met such a naive and childish person that is an owner of anything beyond a lemonade stand.
If i'm somehow wrong about any of this, you need a class in PR. I don't think mcdonalds got where they are today by insulting their consumer base and having the CEO arguing with people on forums.
It seems to me that the entities people are most concerned about are the exchanges and the online wallet services and obtaining financial services licences in their jurisdictions would do more to bind those services to a standard of conduct than any paid for endorsement by a newly established consumer group. Short of expecting the exchanges and wallet services to hand over their accounting records, there's no way that UABB could legitimately verify their conduct as being totally above board - and no financial service provider in their right mind is going to hand over those records for a currently meaningless tick of approval.
That really leaves merchants as the ones who might be willing to pay for some kind of accreditation - if they believe that the fee they'll be paying for that accreditation will be more than offset by increased revenue and profit. As those merchants are located all over the planet, it will be interesting to see what kind of accreditation process is planned and how it's going to be implemented across many different locations.
That really leaves merchants as the ones who might be willing to pay for some kind of accreditation - if they believe that the fee they'll be paying for that accreditation will be more than offset by increased revenue and profit. As those merchants are located all over the planet, it will be interesting to see what kind of accreditation process is planned and how it's going to be implemented across many different locations.
ONE single over-sight/audit/accreditation body/system/organisation is worse than none.
I'm listening. Since you're actually speaking intelligently, I'm actually listening. (Amazing how that works, eh trolls?)
If there are enough arguments against it, we might actually close down the UABB eventually. For now though, I truly believe it's a worthwhile project mainly due to rampit fraud in the forum alone. Having a new thread entitled "blah blah scammed me" is way less productive and trustable, then 100 users on the same business site with various comments, positive and negative about a business and their experiences with it.
THIS is needed, save anything else.
Like others have mentioned repeatedly, prove it with actions. Every time you "open your mouth" here, you just make me (and likely others) less willing to trust you.
And please do it in your personal capacity, not create some grandiose organisation. When the bitcoin economy is large enough to need, use and sustain a proper auditing organisation, the community as a whole, inline with the spirit of Bitcoin, would know who are the people who should be nominated into such an organisation.
Of course if you aren't one of them, then it would be a good time to restart UABB so you can act as the countercheck
THis is my first visit to this thread...the poll response I would have wanted to click would have been:
"It sounds like a good idea but I am not convinced that the person proposing to start it is qualified to operate and manage such a thing or knows what he is really getting into."
And while it's all dandy that the 1 BTC artwork issue is resolved, I'm not quite sure that Mr. Wright would make a very skilled arbitrator based on how that all went. That's part of what the BBB does. (I assume this is modeled after BBB, particularly given the similarity in logo). And the assertion that he can chase down MyBitcoin doesn't strike me as credible.
Great if I'm wrong though - I'd also be likely to take a chance on it as well, knowing that my identity is pretty much in the open and I'm not really out much if it flops.
"It sounds like a good idea but I am not convinced that the person proposing to start it is qualified to operate and manage such a thing or knows what he is really getting into."
And while it's all dandy that the 1 BTC artwork issue is resolved, I'm not quite sure that Mr. Wright would make a very skilled arbitrator based on how that all went. That's part of what the BBB does. (I assume this is modeled after BBB, particularly given the similarity in logo). And the assertion that he can chase down MyBitcoin doesn't strike me as credible.
Great if I'm wrong though - I'd also be likely to take a chance on it as well, knowing that my identity is pretty much in the open and I'm not really out much if it flops.
Last but not least, you are not very confidence-inspiring given your conduct so far.
This project will be much bigger than me and it is something that the community desperately needs (not talking about the accreditation). It'll get done even if I don't do it.Some kind of system is needed yes, but IMO it's not what you've drawn up, nor at this point in time. While the instinct is to panic and start calling the police to patrol the neighbourhood, it's better in the long run to let the tech folks learn from the fiasco, put in the technical measures to improve the system, letting the economy grow into something more sizable and sustainable before letting a few auditing organisations into the picture.
ONE single over-sight/audit/accreditation body/system/organisation is worse than none.
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