UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season - page 289.

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Quote from: makishart on April 04, 2023, 05:01:23 AM

Quote from: Masplanc on April 03, 2023, 01:29:55 PM

Bayern Munich changing coach by this time is what we call try your luck, anything can happen and they shouldn't expect much from Tuchel in this critical time of the champions League. This is a wrong timing of bringing a coach to win the Champions league. I'm not too sure about Bayern for now.

Don't you even aware of the history of tuchel? Tuchel had ever been in the same situation when he replaced Frank Lampard and he successfully gave Chelsea three trophies. Bavarians can also expect the same thing to happen with them since tuchel was on their side. Tuchel is far superior compared with pep, which has been trying so many times to win UCL with city but it never happened. City was not barcelona prime.

Just because bayern was getting a new coach, and it doesn't mean if bayern will be losing easily against manchester city. The thing that you must remember is if anything can happen. you were feeling skeptical about tuchel but if tuchel will beat city and kicked it out from UCL and what's you going to say?

The thing that i do believe gonna happen in this match if bayern will able to beat manchester city even though city will be played with haaland on its side. Haaland never had a wonderful history against bayern.

He was always losing against bayern when he was still in the dortmund.

But I understand a little bit about people's concerns about the change of coach that happened at the Bayern club. but after hearing that it was Tuchel my worries were relieved a little. because Tuchel is a coach who has a lot of experience in big competitions and won many trophies. and Tuchel has also proven that he is a very reliable coach in the match a few days ago in the Bundesliga we saw Bayern able to beat Dortmund very convincingly.

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Quote from: Huppercase on April 04, 2023, 05:09:42 AM

Quote from: kro55 on April 04, 2023, 01:54:31 AM

I don't understand why the Bayern Munich management sacked Nagelsman. Nagelsman was a good enough coach. And Bayern Munich's performance was not weak. Even so, the Munich management decided to fire Nagelsman. Potter, on the other hand, has had plenty of time to stabilize his team. But he failed completely. Chelsea management should have taken the decision to sack Potter earlier. However, Nagelsman looks more likely to be Chelsea's coach. Because Chelsea can't find an experienced coach like Nagelsman at the moment. If Nagelsman becomes the coach of Chelsea, I believe he can stabilize the team.

You cannot eat your cake and have it, Potter don't have enough time to make a come back, they were having hard time in Premier League, they had hard time in FA cup, the only place they had hope is Champions League here and they will be challenging Real Madrid, an opponent team that they couldn't beat the last time they met, if I am the owner of Chelsea, he deserved to live the club with immidiate effect. Nagelsman is yet to make any official statement regarding his sack, may be it is similar to what happen to Tuchel when he was in Chelsea.

At least the current Chelsea supporters are relieved that management has done what they want. Actually, for a long time, Chelsea supporters have urged Chelsea to immediately fire Graham Potter because they were deemed unable to make a difference to the game from Chelsea. It may take a long time for the Chelsea management to make a decision whether or not to sack Potter, and now that decision has been made.

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Quote from: kro55 on April 04, 2023, 01:54:31 AM

I don't understand why the Bayern Munich management sacked Nagelsman. Nagelsman was a good enough coach. And Bayern Munich's performance was not weak. Even so, the Munich management decided to fire Nagelsman. Potter, on the other hand, has had plenty of time to stabilize his team. But he failed completely. Chelsea management should have taken the decision to sack Potter earlier. However, Nagelsman looks more likely to be Chelsea's coach. Because Chelsea can't find an experienced coach like Nagelsman at the moment. If Nagelsman becomes the coach of Chelsea, I believe he can stabilize the team.

You cannot eat your cake and have it, Potter don't have enough time to make a come back, they were having hard time in Premier League, they had hard time in FA cup, the only place they had hope is Champions League here and they will be challenging Real Madrid, an opponent team that they couldn't beat the last time they met, if I am the owner of Chelsea, he deserved to live the club with immidiate effect. Nagelsman is yet to make any official statement regarding his sack, may be it is similar to what happen to Tuchel when he was in Chelsea.

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Quote from: Masplanc on April 03, 2023, 01:29:55 PM

Bayern Munich changing coach by this time is what we call try your luck, anything can happen and they shouldn't expect much from Tuchel in this critical time of the champions League. This is a wrong timing of bringing a coach to win the Champions league. I'm not too sure about Bayern for now.

Don't you even aware of the history of tuchel? Tuchel had ever been in the same situation when he replaced Frank Lampard and he successfully gave Chelsea three trophies. Bavarians can also expect the same thing to happen with them since tuchel was on their side. Tuchel is far superior compared with pep, which has been trying so many times to win UCL with city but it never happened. City was not barcelona prime.

Just because bayern was getting a new coach, and it doesn't mean if bayern will be losing easily against manchester city. The thing that you must remember is if anything can happen. you were feeling skeptical about tuchel but if tuchel will beat city and kicked it out from UCL and what's you going to say?

The thing that i do believe gonna happen in this match if bayern will able to beat manchester city even though city will be played with haaland on its side. Haaland never had a wonderful history against bayern.

He was always losing against bayern when he was still in the dortmund.

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Quote from: Masplanc on April 03, 2023, 01:29:55 PM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on April 03, 2023, 12:27:14 PM

but for the Champions League with a new change of coach and the team's not-so-good performance and mental condition right now I'm still not too sure they can advance to the semi-finals.

Bayern Munich changing coach by this time is what we call try your luck, anything can happen and they shouldn't expect much from Tuchel in this critical time of the champions League. This is a wrong timing of bringing a coach to win the Champions league. I'm not too sure about Bayern for now.

Lol Champions league crunch for Bayern and Tuchel? I think you need to open your eyes wide now.
The conditions are still unpredictable, but with Bayern's current condition, even though the opponent is Manchester City, the possibility of them winning is still very large, especially in terms of experience, they are also superior when compared to Manchester City.
With their always good performance in the group phase and in the previous round they beat one that was expected to talk a lot in the Champions League, of course their confidence is now increasing.

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Quote from: asriloni on April 04, 2023, 03:10:39 AM

Quote from: Ratash on April 03, 2023, 05:12:28 PM

Benfica vs inter milan will surely be an interesting game benfica team are on fire both in their league and in the champions league on the otherhand inter are on a bad shape, even psg was not able to beat benfica, they are the favourite to make it to the semi finals, i think they will.

It seems like people rarely talked about this but seeing how bad intermilan is in serie makes me believe that the club will not able to win against benfica. I meant let's take a look at the fact about how intermilan is always losing in serie a. Intermilan will be facing juventus soon and this can be used as a benchmark for us to determine how big the chance that owned intermilan to beat benfica. Benfica is always getting perfect results in the local league. More people started to distrust intermilan due to its poor performance.

The fact that benfica may be way more dominating the match compared with intermilan. Intermilan is no bad but seeing how its performance in the local league makes everyone feels doubt that.
that's what im thinking about that.

Inter Milan team is more experienced than Benfica. But Inter Milan is in the very bad form right now. And if that performance doesn't improve I don't see them winning against Benfica. I see no reason to consider the Benfica team weak. Even this season the Benfica team is more organized and stronger. Benfica is dominating the Primeira Liga this season. And the Primeira Liga title is almost certain to be won by Benfica. And so Benfica can now turn their full attention to the Champions League match.
The first leg of Inter vs Benfica is Benfica's home match. Hopefully, the Benfica players will be more confident at home against Inter Milan. I want to watch Napoli vs Benfica semi-final match.

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Quote from: Ratash on April 03, 2023, 05:12:28 PM

Benfica vs inter milan will surely be an interesting game benfica team are on fire both in their league and in the champions league on the otherhand inter are on a bad shape, even psg was not able to beat benfica, they are the favourite to make it to the semi finals, i think they will.

It seems like people rarely talked about this but seeing how bad intermilan is in serie makes me believe that the club will not able to win against benfica. I meant let's take a look at the fact about how intermilan is always losing in serie a. Intermilan will be facing juventus soon and this can be used as a benchmark for us to determine how big the chance that owned intermilan to beat benfica. Benfica is always getting perfect results in the local league. More people started to distrust intermilan due to its poor performance.

The fact that benfica may be way more dominating the match compared with intermilan. Intermilan is no bad but seeing how its performance in the local league makes everyone feels doubt that.

that's what im thinking about that.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on April 03, 2023, 11:42:01 PM

Quote from: reagansimms on April 03, 2023, 11:20:09 PM

Quote from: Falconer on April 03, 2023, 04:51:09 PM

Quote from: Frankolala on April 03, 2023, 04:27:31 PM

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Now whoever coaches Chelsea after Graham Potter I think he's going to have a very demanding job. Chelsea are expected to be in good form after Potter was sacked, while the new coach will spend quite a bit of time building the team and adjusting to his new team.
Nothing will be easy especially when they are required to beat Real Madrid in the Champions League, I think it will be difficult for whoever they are. Even though Julian Nagelsman could get this position, he realized that he had a tough task.

Very tragic, the money spent by Todd Boehly could not be used by Potter to improve Chelsea performance. The Chelsea squad is already filled with quality players, but there are no signs of improving performance yet. The decisive action taken was very appropriate, Potter really deserved to be sacked because he had not been able to provide anything of value since being appointed as head coach of Chelsea. Potter's replacement will receive a baton full of thorns, whoever replaces Potter must be able to make Chelsea able to compete with other elite teams again.
Chelsea's worsening condition will be difficult to face Real Madrid. This situation is very profitable for Real Madrid, apart from acting as the home team in the first leg, Madrid is currently also in its best form.

@Falconer I wonder if Potter had a full pre season and got the player’s he specifically needed then I wonder if things could be different, because his past record suggests that he isn’t that bad but he definitely did have some terrible luck at Chelsea. Also I doubt that Nagelsman will come at this stage, because there’s a big chance that Chelsea won’t be in the champions league next season hence I’m not sure why would he want to come right away.

I don't understand why the Bayern Munich management sacked Nagelsman. Nagelsman was a good enough coach. And Bayern Munich's performance was not weak. Even so, the Munich management decided to fire Nagelsman. Potter, on the other hand, has had plenty of time to stabilize his team. But he failed completely. Chelsea management should have taken the decision to sack Potter earlier. However, Nagelsman looks more likely to be Chelsea's coach. Because Chelsea can't find an experienced coach like Nagelsman at the moment. If Nagelsman becomes the coach of Chelsea, I believe he can stabilize the team.

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Quote from: reagansimms on April 03, 2023, 11:20:09 PM

Very tragic, the money spent by Todd Boehly could not be used by Potter to improve Chelsea performance. The Chelsea squad is already filled with quality players, but there are no signs of improving performance yet. The decisive action taken was very appropriate, Potter really deserved to be sacked because he had not been able to provide anything of value since being appointed as head coach of Chelsea. Potter's replacement will receive a baton full of thorns, whoever replaces Potter must be able to make Chelsea able to compete with other elite teams again.

Chelsea's worsening condition will be difficult to face Real Madrid. This situation is very profitable for Real Madrid, apart from acting as the home team in the first leg, Madrid is currently also in its best form.

Less experienced with manage star player I think problem faced by Graham Potter since become Chelsea manager and he was spent much money for signing star player but not effective until Chelsea's position dropped to 11th standings. I don't know about Graham Potter capacities how come Chelsea's management keep believing with him until several bad performance. I don't sure with new manager replacing for Graham Potter position have capacities for returning back Chelsea to the top fourth position.

Until two days Potter's sacked not any new update who will replace his position because Chelsea have to play in Champion League quarter final against Real Madrid, seems have two weeks later before this games and Chelsea have hurry up reach personal agreement or deal with new manager.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on April 03, 2023, 07:13:01 PM

Guardiola and Tuchel is going to face each other once again here after a long while. Let's see which one of them will be victorious this time.

Manchester city must be careful. Bayern is coming with better performance compared to when the club was under naglesmann. Tuchel has ever faced manchester city and won in the final of UCL. That will become the main concern why guardiola needs to play all of the game seriously.

Guardiola needs to make sure its player will be able to block any attacks from bayern. Bayern looks played aggressively against naglesmann. I will not be surprised if bayern may be able to kick city out from UCL again this season.
Thomas mueller will have become the key for bayern. I do like mueller as he is always performing so impressive. Even cancelo was also feeling so good with tuchel on his side.

This will become the most waited match. Will guardiola make its revenge against tuchel?

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Quote from: reagansimms on April 03, 2023, 11:20:09 PM

Quote from: Falconer on April 03, 2023, 04:51:09 PM

Quote from: Frankolala on April 03, 2023, 04:27:31 PM

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Now whoever coaches Chelsea after Graham Potter I think he's going to have a very demanding job. Chelsea are expected to be in good form after Potter was sacked, while the new coach will spend quite a bit of time building the team and adjusting to his new team.

Nothing will be easy especially when they are required to beat Real Madrid in the Champions League, I think it will be difficult for whoever they are. Even though Julian Nagelsman could get this position, he realized that he had a tough task.

Very tragic, the money spent by Todd Boehly could not be used by Potter to improve Chelsea performance. The Chelsea squad is already filled with quality players, but there are no signs of improving performance yet. The decisive action taken was very appropriate, Potter really deserved to be sacked because he had not been able to provide anything of value since being appointed as head coach of Chelsea. Potter's replacement will receive a baton full of thorns, whoever replaces Potter must be able to make Chelsea able to compete with other elite teams again.

Chelsea's worsening condition will be difficult to face Real Madrid. This situation is very profitable for Real Madrid, apart from acting as the home team in the first leg, Madrid is currently also in its best form.

@Falconer I wonder if Potter had a full pre season and got the player’s he specifically needed then I wonder if things could be different, because his past record suggests that he isn’t that bad but he definitely did have some terrible luck at Chelsea. Also I doubt that Nagelsman will come at this stage, because there’s a big chance that Chelsea won’t be in the champions league next season hence I’m not sure why would he want to come right away.

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Quote from: Falconer on April 03, 2023, 04:51:09 PM

Quote from: Frankolala on April 03, 2023, 04:27:31 PM

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Now whoever coaches Chelsea after Graham Potter I think he's going to have a very demanding job. Chelsea are expected to be in good form after Potter was sacked, while the new coach will spend quite a bit of time building the team and adjusting to his new team.

Nothing will be easy especially when they are required to beat Real Madrid in the Champions League, I think it will be difficult for whoever they are. Even though Julian Nagelsman could get this position, he realized that he had a tough task.

Very tragic, the money spent by Todd Boehly could not be used by Potter to improve Chelsea performance. The Chelsea squad is already filled with quality players, but there are no signs of improving performance yet. The decisive action taken was very appropriate, Potter really deserved to be sacked because he had not been able to provide anything of value since being appointed as head coach of Chelsea. Potter's replacement will receive a baton full of thorns, whoever replaces Potter must be able to make Chelsea able to compete with other elite teams again.

Chelsea's worsening condition will be difficult to face Real Madrid. This situation is very profitable for Real Madrid, apart from acting as the home team in the first leg, Madrid is currently also in its best form.

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Quote from: W Jr. on April 03, 2023, 09:44:53 PM

The Portuguese team, in my opinion, is the team that has a higher probability of going to the next round. Inter's chances will change according to their victory in Italy. If Lukaku performs as well as in the national team, he is a striker who can bring the win for Inter and take it to the next round. Inter have to play well in both games. Benfica is a fantastic team this year.

Chance for Benfica becomes bigger recent weeks with very poor performances from Inter Milan in Serie A. We knew Inter Milan were very luckily to have a draw in second leg with Porto in round of 16. After that, they did not improve performance but only got worse in Serie A. It is hard to think that Inter Milan will be able to play better in matches with Benfica in quarter finals.

Porto and Benfica are similar quality in Portuguese League but in Champions League Porto have more experience than Benfica. However, Benfica can be a first Portuguese club can join Champions League semi final after many years since Porto in 2003 - 2004 season.

Quote from: Velvet78 on April 03, 2023, 07:13:01 PM

Manchester City - Bayern Munich matchup can be much more enjoyable from now on as it seems. Because I believe Tuchel will make a really good impact on Bayern Munich with his management style. He already got a solid win in his first game against Dortmund. They were already doing good in the Champions League though but I expect them to be even stronger now.

Guardiola and Tuchel is going to face each other once again here after a long while. Let's see which one of them will be victorious this time.

Without Tuchel, Bayern Munich with two impressive matches against PSG would bring more concerns to Manchester City and Guardiola. With appearance of Tuchel and a big win over Dortmund last weekend, Manchester City would have more reasons to concern about their matches with Bayern. They will have to beat one of biggest and most successful clubs in Champions League, just after Real Madrid and AC Milan.

Additionally, Bayern Munich actually have good form lately that would bring more challenge to Manchester City.

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Quote from: Ratash on April 03, 2023, 05:12:28 PM

Benfica vs inter milan will surely be an interesting game benfica team are on fire both in their league and in the champions league on the otherhand inter are on a bad shape, even psg was not able to beat benfica, they are the favourite to make it to the semi finals, i think they will.

The Portuguese team, in my opinion, is the team that has a higher probability of going to the next round. Inter's chances will change according to their victory in Italy. If Lukaku performs as well as in the national team, he is a striker who can bring the win for Inter and take it to the next round. Inter have to play well in both games. Benfica is a fantastic team this year.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on April 03, 2023, 07:13:01 PM

Manchester City - Bayern Munich matchup can be much more enjoyable from now on as it seems. Because I believe Tuchel will make a really good impact on Bayern Munich with his management style. He already got a solid win in his first game against Dortmund. They were already doing good in the Champions League though but I expect them to be even stronger now.

Guardiola and Tuchel is going to face each other once again here after a long while. Let's see which one of them will be victorious this time.

In my opinion this is an early finale for the champoins league and both teams know that wining this match mean most probably getting the title, I understand that many fans think real Madrid is also a big favorite for the title this year but in my opinion it will be very hard for Madrid to get the title with the actual team, wining 5-2 against Liverpool don't have any meaning in my opinion because Liverpool is very weak this year and they are struggling Even with weak EPL teams

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Quote from: makishart on April 03, 2023, 01:46:30 AM

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no, things are going to be different trust me, Champions League is so different for Chelsea than the Premier league, Chelsea are almost playing the premier league just to finish the season, they are far behind the top 5, so results like these can be because they lack motivation to try harder, and against Real Madrid things will be so different, i'm actually considering betting on Chelsea to advance to the next round.

You're taking very big risk by picking chelsea but it's your choice. I will still prefer to pick real madrid over chelsea even though i have been seeing that if potter already sacked, but that needs the time for chelsea to get a new coach. The first leg gonna happen in the santiago bernabeu and are you sure with your choice? i meant don't even you try to think again for twice before trying to pick chelsea? I consider real madrid to make a bunch of goals against chelsea in the first leg. Chelsea will not be able to play so well in its first match with bruno saltor.

The blues are losing its spirit after it has been coached by potter. Im feeling doubt if chelsea will able to come back stronger soon. Real madrid especially ancelotti already fully anticipated chelsea by learning from the past mistake.

It's very risky decision. Cheesy

I just learn from how real madrid was beating chelsea last season witha dramatic comeback duringthe additional time.

i'm certain that they have a very big chance qualifying, i don't want to watch that happen without betting on them and just telling people "i told you" the odds aren't that bad too, we all know that surprises happen from time to time, and i got a feeling that this could be it, but i gotta admit that it's risky, but this is gambling, it's risky most of the times.

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Manchester City - Bayern Munich matchup can be much more enjoyable from now on as it seems. Because I believe Tuchel will make a really good impact on Bayern Munich with his management style. He already got a solid win in his first game against Dortmund. They were already doing good in the Champions League though but I expect them to be even stronger now.

Guardiola and Tuchel is going to face each other once again here after a long while. Let's see which one of them will be victorious this time.

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Quote from: Falconer on April 03, 2023, 04:51:09 PM

Quote from: Frankolala on April 03, 2023, 04:27:31 PM

I think now that Potter has been fired Chelsea will begin to play good football compared to Potters regime. Chelsea is a strong club and have quality players but their problem started from when Todd took over ownership of the club.

Building Chelsea to a standard form will not be achieved so soon, and not in this season because the new coach needs to study the laxity in the players and what strategy he needs to use in playing other clubs so that victory can always be theirs. Real Madrid form is too strong for Chelsea to win in their poor form,automatically, I think Chelsea is out and should start preparing for next season UCL if possible.

Now whoever coaches Chelsea after Graham Potter I think he's going to have a very demanding job. Chelsea are expected to be in good form after Potter was sacked, while the new coach will spend quite a bit of time building the team and adjusting to his new team.

Nothing will be easy especially when they are required to beat Real Madrid in the Champions League, I think it will be difficult for whoever they are. Even though Julian Nagelsman could get this position, he realized that he had a tough task.

Can't imagine if nagelsman did manage chelsea and meet bayern at the semi under tuchel ...

It's going to be very emotional for both manager and the fans as well , but things still unclear yet just it's been rumored that nagelsman is the favorite to take the chelsea job than any ither . Champions league going to be a great entertainment this season , but a tough mission ahead for chelsea just like the 2012 champions league journey.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on April 03, 2023, 05:45:32 PM

Quote from: Ratash on April 03, 2023, 05:12:28 PM

Benfica vs inter milan will surely be an interesting game benfica team are on fire both in their league and in the champions league on the otherhand inter are on a bad shape, even psg was not able to beat benfica, they are the favourite to make it to the semi finals, i think they will.

for inter vs benfica, I prefer benfica, in serie a inter's performance is not very satisfying plus more benfica is a strong team and it's definitely difficult to be beaten by inter

Benfica's attackers are very active this season, Goncalo Ramos and Joao Mario, have contributed greatly to giving Benfica many goals since the start of the Champions League this season, Benfica is very lucky to have them both

Benfica and Inter have a match in the quarter finals of the Champions League. In that match I can almost guarantee that Benfica will win. Because Benfica has been performing better than Inter for the past few matches. But Benfica can only go as far as the semi-finals.

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Quote from: Ratash on April 03, 2023, 05:12:28 PM

Benfica vs inter milan will surely be an interesting game benfica team are on fire both in their league and in the champions league on the otherhand inter are on a bad shape, even psg was not able to beat benfica, they are the favourite to make it to the semi finals, i think they will.

for inter vs benfica, I prefer benfica, in serie a inter's performance is not very satisfying plus more benfica is a strong team and it's definitely difficult to be beaten by inter

Benfica's attackers are very active this season, Goncalo Ramos and Joao Mario, have contributed greatly to giving Benfica many goals since the start of the Champions League this season, Benfica is very lucky to have them both

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