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Quote from: Cookdata on April 03, 2023, 10:23:41 AM

I understand that Boehly is a businessman, but he is irrational when it comes to decisions, especially with the players and the manager; I often wonder who slips suggestions in his ears. When it comes to replacing players and coaches, timing is everything. He fired Tuchel in the middle of the season when Chelsea's performance was not as terrible as Potter's. Graham Potter's reckless Chelsea performance this season was something they should have spotted before arriving, but they needed cheap labor; meanwhile, Tuchel is sailing at Bayern. I hope Chelsea does not move from bad to worse because they have already experienced average to bad performances.

Tuchel's sacking was unexpected, but logical from the point of view of an owner who was expecting a title fight. Chelsea after 6 games had 10 points and a loss to Dinamo Zagreb in the Champions League. The fact that Potter was unable to remedy the situation is another matter. But judging by the amounts that Boel spends, his ambitions are great and he will continue to try to raise Chelsea (not this season, of course).

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on April 03, 2023, 11:40:07 AM

Things might get really interesting if Chelsea bring the right manager for themselves. But there isn't a definition of this in me yet.

They need to make their choice wisely about a manager. I mean that they should be careful about the strategies and tactics of that manager. If they don't match Chelsea then there is no meaning in signing him. I know that they are in a critical time period now so this is exactly why they should be careful with their choices as of now. Their chance against Real Madrid will still not be high though. But if they sign a solid manager then they can at least fight harder in this round against Real Madrid. Nagelsmann seems to be one step ahead now.

With the current conditions, this is actually a little difficult, especially in this case, the possibility of a new coach, of course, there are two, namely the same as what Tuchel did at Dortmund, who was immediately praised or did not rule out the possibility of returning, for example, to Potter.
Things are still unpredictable now, but for the Champions League with a new change of coach and the team's not-so-good performance and mental condition right now I'm still not too sure they can advance to the semi-finals.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on April 03, 2023, 11:40:07 AM

Things might get really interesting if Chelsea bring the right manager for themselves. But there isn't a definition of this in me yet.

They need to make their choice wisely about a manager. I mean that they should be careful about the strategies and tactics of that manager. If they don't match Chelsea then there is no meaning in signing him. I know that they are in a critical time period now so this is exactly why they should be careful with their choices as of now. Their chance against Real Madrid will still not be high though. But if they sign a solid manager then they can at least fight harder in this round against Real Madrid. Nagelsmann seems to be one step ahead now.

Chelsea really have a lot of great players who can build a strong team. But currently the Chelsea team can be said to have completely lost their rhythm. But agree with you, maybe if a new coach is added to the team, the team will regain its strength with new tactics.

Changing coaches at this moment I don't think is promising for Chelsea to improve their performance for the better and also, the fact is Potter is under contract for quite a long time. So, I think it's impossible for Chelsea to sack Potter at this moment because after all, with a long contract and it's still Potter's first season, I'm sure these factors will not make Chelsea plan to sign Nagelsmann.

Anyway, Chelsea should have been able to accept and deal with situations like this because after all, the results they are getting now are the result of the changes they have made and they didn't just happen. So, whatever Chelsea's plans are at this moment, I personally still believe that Chelsea have no chance of beating Real Madrid.

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Quote from: kro55 on April 03, 2023, 03:57:35 AM

The overall condition of Chelsea's squad is poor. At the same time, their coach could not stabilize the team. I wouldn't say that Chelsea's poor performance is only due to the failure of the coach. Their squad was also not strong enough. If the squad is not strong then it is not possible to rely on the coach alone to perform consistently well. And so the Chelsea management should try to strengthen the team by appointing an experienced coach. Chelsea management definitely needs to add experienced players to the team. Chelsea management should make a big fund to add new players to the squad next season.

Let's see how they are going to be now that Potter is out. I have always said that Potter wasn't the guy that could make this team better. All these managers that try to overreach to their positions will end up being too bad. You know what kind of manager I like when we are talking about big clubs?

Either a manager that has already managed a big club and had some success before, which would be the only acceptable thing for Chelsea right now, or a manager that is new to manager position if you want to take a risk, but been an assistant manager to someone successful for a long time, like Arteta for example. That would be the only thing that could make sense as an alternative. Not a small club manager.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on April 03, 2023, 11:40:07 AM

Things might get really interesting if Chelsea bring the right manager for themselves. But there isn't a definition of this in me yet.

They need to make their choice wisely about a manager. I mean that they should be careful about the strategies and tactics of that manager. If they don't match Chelsea then there is no meaning in signing him. I know that they are in a critical time period now so this is exactly why they should be careful with their choices as of now. Their chance against Real Madrid will still not be high though. But if they sign a solid manager then they can at least fight harder in this round against Real Madrid. Nagelsmann seems to be one step ahead now.

Chelsea really have a lot of great players who can build a strong team. But currently the Chelsea team can be said to have completely lost their rhythm. But agree with you, maybe if a new coach is added to the team, the team will regain its strength with new tactics.

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Things might get really interesting if Chelsea bring the right manager for themselves. But there isn't a definition of this in me yet.

They need to make their choice wisely about a manager. I mean that they should be careful about the strategies and tactics of that manager. If they don't match Chelsea then there is no meaning in signing him. I know that they are in a critical time period now so this is exactly why they should be careful with their choices as of now. Their chance against Real Madrid will still not be high though. But if they sign a solid manager then they can at least fight harder in this round against Real Madrid. Nagelsmann seems to be one step ahead now.

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Quote from: naira on April 03, 2023, 09:53:10 AM

Very surprising the warm-up match between Napoli vs AC Milan had to show Napoli bad performance. Even though we expect Napoli to excel on paper the meeting between the two is. Napoli did not do even a single goal in return. What I'm worried about is the second game in the Champions League and this defeat will be a picture for Napoli. Hopefully, we don't see Napoli fall at this stage. Napoli defeat in Serie A against AC Milan certainly made S. Pioli's troops more confident to continue their winning trend in the Champions League.

This loss can as a surprise to me but nothing is impossible in football. I didn't expect Napoli to lose with such a margin without scoring a goal because the team has one of the best-attacking force in Europe. The loss might negatively affect their morale but they have to put this loss behind them and fight in the Champions League. Hopefully, Victor Osinhem will be fit for their next meeting.

Quote from: Cookdata on April 03, 2023, 10:23:41 AM

I understand that Boehly is a businessman, but he is irrational when it comes to decisions, especially with the players and the manager; I often wonder who slips suggestions in his ears. When it comes to replacing players and coaches, timing is everything. He fired Tuchel in the middle of the season when Chelsea's performance was not as terrible as Potter's. Graham Potter's reckless Chelsea performance this season was something they should have spotted before arriving, but they needed cheap labor; meanwhile, Tuchel is sailing at Bayern. I hope Chelsea does not move from bad to worse because they have already experienced average to bad performances.

It seems the funds at their disposal is making the management of Chelsea reckless in spending. They seem to be signing players without plans or needs analysis. They have spent almost more than any other team in the Premiership yet they have the lowest output or performance. The best thing for the club now is to struggle to be in the Premiership and identify a sound coach that will replace the interim coach and prepare for next season. I am not also writing off the possibility of a miracle happening in the Champions league.

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Quote from: naira on April 03, 2023, 09:53:10 AM

Very surprising the warm-up match between Napoli vs AC Milan had to show Napoli bad performance. Even though we expect Napoli to excel on paper the meeting between the two is. Napoli did not do even a single goal in return. What I'm worried about is the second game in the Champions League and this defeat will be a picture for Napoli. Hopefully, we don't see Napoli fall at this stage. Napoli defeat in Serie A against AC Milan certainly made S. Pioli's troops more confident to continue their winning trend in the Champions League.

Yes, it was very surprising that Napoli was slaughtered very badly conceding 4 goals at Stadio Diego Armando Maradona, obviously it was a surprising result. Even though yesterday match was played in the domestic league but yes Milan squad will be more confident and also seems will be motivated to win at this big event. Spalletti will have to think a little harder to win in the first leg at San Siro and get the advantage on goal difference, but the problem is Napoli goal machine currently injured so they will find it difficult to scored.

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Chelsea are not so powerful this season, they are inconsistent, in the bottom half of the EPL table and just recently fired their manager, so it is all going wrong for Chelsea at the moment. I think it would be quite easy for Real Madrid to eliminate Chelsea, just as it was easy for them to eliminate Liverpool in the RO16. Chelsea have a good and young squad, but quite a lot of them lack the experience that Real Madrid's players have in the CL. I predict City are going to defeat Bayern, and Real Madrid are going to eliminate Chelsea, thus we are then going to have a repeat of last season's CL SF between City and Real Madrid.

Potter got fired, well it was expected, the only question was how much Boehly had the patience. It would seem that Chelsea is still in the Champions League and perhaps dismissal before the Champions League match with Real is not the best time, but with the replacement of the coach, Boehly pulled as much as he could. Real Madrid will benefit the most in this situation.

I understand that Boehly is a businessman, but he is irrational when it comes to decisions, especially with the players and the manager; I often wonder who slips suggestions in his ears. When it comes to replacing players and coaches, timing is everything. He fired Tuchel in the middle of the season when Chelsea's performance was not as terrible as Potter's. Graham Potter's reckless Chelsea performance this season was something they should have spotted before arriving, but they needed cheap labor; meanwhile, Tuchel is sailing at Bayern. I hope Chelsea does not move from bad to worse because they have already experienced average to bad performances.

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Very surprising the warm-up match between Napoli vs AC Milan had to show Napoli bad performance. Even though we expect Napoli to excel on paper the meeting between the two is. Napoli did not do even a single goal in return. What I'm worried about is the second game in the Champions League and this defeat will be a picture for Napoli. Hopefully, we don't see Napoli fall at this stage. Napoli defeat in Serie A against AC Milan certainly made S. Pioli's troops more confident to continue their winning trend in the Champions League.

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Quote from: Coyster on April 03, 2023, 07:28:42 AM

Chelsea are not so powerful this season, they are inconsistent, in the bottom half of the EPL table and just recently fired their manager, so it is all going wrong for Chelsea at the moment. I think it would be quite easy for Real Madrid to eliminate Chelsea, just as it was easy for them to eliminate Liverpool in the RO16. Chelsea have a good and young squad, but quite a lot of them lack the experience that Real Madrid's players have in the CL. I predict City are going to defeat Bayern, and Real Madrid are going to eliminate Chelsea, thus we are then going to have a repeat of last season's CL SF between City and Real Madrid.

Potter got fired, well it was expected, the only question was how much Boehly had the patience. It would seem that Chelsea is still in the Champions League and perhaps dismissal before the Champions League match with Real is not the best time, but with the replacement of the coach, Boehly pulled as much as he could. Real Madrid will benefit the most in this situation.

Exactly it was playing stupid from Boehly to fire the coach at such a delicate time when next week they will be facing Real Madrid in the Champions League.Boehly is behaving like a little kid honestly spending a lot of money and buying players like he is playing "Football Manager" up to over 270 million pounds and the results we all saw them up until now.I know that the results do not justify Potter but I also think that Boehly rushed in this decision,I am sure we will see even more bad results from Chelsea in the remaining part of the season and I don't doubt that they will be eliminated with a tennis result in Champions League.

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Quote from: sovie on April 03, 2023, 06:33:34 AM

Real Madrid's opponents in the quarter-finals of the Champions League are powerful Chelsea. Despite Chelsea's poor performance in other leagues, the team will be keen not to miss out on the Champions League quarter-finals. For which they will play with their best in that match. But I am ahead of Real Madrid in the match.

Chelsea was not as powerful as your thought. I was not discrediting chelsea in this case but the fact that already told us the truth if chelsea is not as good as before. The new era of chelsea is making the club goes down even deeper in the premier league.
I will not be surprised to see that if chelsea will be losing in the first leg. That being said that if chelsea will not be playing so good against real madrid as chelsea must have passed the transition to the new coach again after potter got sacked by todd.

Some star players of chelsea will come back once chelsea will face madrid. I hope that the new coach will not make a mistake by putting some useless players in the line up. There shall always be kante and ben chilwell in the line up.

Stupid players like cucurella who were always making blunders shall be removed from the main squad of UCL. I just hope that chelsea will able to force the match to be draw in santiago bernabeu

I agree with you. Real Madrid have been far behind in Chelsea's performance in comparison. Real Madrid are more likely to secure victory in the Champions League quarter-finals. Because considering the performance of other leagues, Real Madrid is ahead of Chelsea in all aspects.

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Quote from: ginsan on April 03, 2023, 08:55:44 AM

Chelsea when facing real madrid in the champions league there will be a slight difference in their team because Chelsea will play under the tutelage of Bruno Saltor who has a little difficulty predicting their game because Chelsea under Saltor direction may be that they will perform better. Indeed, Real Madrid met again with EPL representatives Chelsea in the quarter-finals after Real Madrid met Liverpool in the last 16. I think this is a pretty big chance for Real Madrid in this match because in terms of the performance of their opponents they been relatively unstable lately.

After a string of poor results in the EPL are they still capable of making a surprise in the UCL. Yes, it's a mystery, why Chelsea are bad in the EPL quite well in the UCL. First leg they will go to the Bernabeu, it looks quite difficult to win. Real Madrid can always take advantage of the opportunity to play at home. The second leg may be an opportunity for Chelsea due to play at Stamford Bridge. I'm not sure about Chelsea, but they have a chance to make a big surprise. But I'm still committed to Real Madrid going to the semi-finals.

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Quote from: ginsan on April 03, 2023, 08:55:44 AM

Quote from: Alanaz on April 03, 2023, 08:03:29 AM

A good comparison by comparing 2 teams from England against Real Madrid. But in a match comparing 2 different teams might not be too precise. I mean maybe one of the teams looks better but gets a bad result against the same 1 team. It should also be considered that maybe one other team has the formula to hold that same team's strategy.

Chelsea when facing real madrid in the champions league there will be a slight difference in their team because Chelsea will play under the tutelage of Bruno Saltor who has a little difficulty predicting their game because Chelsea under Saltor direction may be that they will perform better. Indeed, Real Madrid met again with EPL representatives Chelsea in the quarter-finals after Real Madrid met Liverpool in the last 16. I think this is a pretty big chance for Real Madrid in this match because in terms of the performance of their opponents they been relatively unstable lately.

if real madrid again manages to beat chelsea in the quarter-finals i'm sure they will be strong candidates in the title race. manchester city will face bayern munich for sure this is a big match full of stars in both the biggest teams in their respective league.

well, based on the history of this new temporary coach at chelsea, I think he doesn't have a lot of experience in dealing with big teams, that means he doesn't have a lot of experience as head coach of a big team either, so his first and big test begins the morning in the game against liverpool in the premier league, liverpool are not doing well this season, but in tomorrow's game liverpool will already have all their best injured players available, I don't know if they will be able to play right at the beginning of the game, but this it will be a good test for the new coach

based on the performance of tomorrow's game, we'll already have an idea of what to expect from chelsea in the next game, that's because if this new coach doesn't make changes in the starting 11, play with the same regular players and lose, then we can already predict that in the game against real madrid chelsea will also be with their usual players, but if tomorrow this new chelsea coach makes a lot of changes and has good results then we can expect that they will create difficulties for real madrid, but even so i see real madrid winning the game

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Quote from: sovie on April 03, 2023, 06:33:34 AM

Real Madrid's opponents in the quarter-finals of the Champions League are powerful Chelsea. Despite Chelsea's poor performance in other leagues, the team will be keen not to miss out on the Champions League quarter-finals. For which they will play with their best in that match. But I am ahead of Real Madrid in the match.

Chelsea was not as powerful as your thought. I was not discrediting chelsea in this case but the fact that already told us the truth if chelsea is not as good as before. The new era of chelsea is making the club goes down even deeper in the premier league.
I will not be surprised to see that if chelsea will be losing in the first leg. That being said that if chelsea will not be playing so good against real madrid as chelsea must have passed the transition to the new coach again after potter got sacked by todd.

Some star players of chelsea will come back once chelsea will face madrid. I hope that the new coach will not make a mistake by putting some useless players in the line up. There shall always be kante and ben chilwell in the line up.

Stupid players like cucurella who were always making blunders shall be removed from the main squad of UCL. I just hope that chelsea will able to force the match to be draw in santiago bernabeu

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Quote from: Coyster on April 03, 2023, 07:28:42 AM

Chelsea are not so powerful this season, they are inconsistent, in the bottom half of the EPL table and just recently fired their manager, so it is all going wrong for Chelsea at the moment. I think it would be quite easy for Real Madrid to eliminate Chelsea, just as it was easy for them to eliminate Liverpool in the RO16. Chelsea have a good and young squad, but quite a lot of them lack the experience that Real Madrid's players have in the CL. I predict City are going to defeat Bayern, and Real Madrid are going to eliminate Chelsea, thus we are then going to have a repeat of last season's CL SF between City and Real Madrid.

Potter got fired, well it was expected, the only question was how much Boehly had the patience. It would seem that Chelsea is still in the Champions League and perhaps dismissal before the Champions League match with Real is not the best time, but with the replacement of the coach, Boehly pulled as much as he could. Real Madrid will benefit the most in this situation.

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Quote from: FanEagle on April 03, 2023, 05:46:15 AM

Real Madrid and Chelsea game is not too far away, we gotta see what Chelsea does first about the manager position, and then maybe we can talk about it a bit. I feel like it is not really that easy to decide which team will win before the game that easily, but that's what we do when we bet, we decide which one will win and I think it is clear that Real would win this one. I am not saying it is 100% or anything like that, I have absolutely no idea if they will win or not, as surprises are obviously common here.

But if I would have to guess, I would put 51%+ to Real to win this game and say they are the favorites because all year they looked much better without a doubt.

Real Madrid's opponents in the quarter-finals of the Champions League are powerful Chelsea. Despite Chelsea's poor performance in other leagues, the team will be keen not to miss out on the Champions League quarter-finals. For which they will play with their best in that match. But I am ahead of Real Madrid in the match.

There is necessity and burning desire to win but the strength and ability is not there. Even with a good team, the club still hasn't gathered much confidence to play in the champion league like before. Saddening that Madrid'a hope of winning the La liga deadenned, so real Madrid will be so deadly when it comes too champion league and will not show any single sign of giving up till they achieve it. Not until I see chelsea perform without graham, I will not expect anything more from chelsea in time.

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Quote from: Masplanc on April 03, 2023, 07:39:12 AM

Liverpool is better than Chelsea but it was so easy for Real Madrid to beat Liverpool . Chelsea has no chance of defeating Real Madrid. Before you claim Chelsea can win real madrid try to compare the performance of the two teams. Chelsea strength and quality is not half of Real Madrid.

A good comparison by comparing 2 teams from England against Real Madrid. But in a match comparing 2 different teams might not be too precise. I mean maybe one of the teams looks better but gets a bad result against the same 1 team. It should also be considered that maybe one other team has the formula to hold that same team's strategy.

I never stop to wonder why people believe that Chelsea will be able to win Real Madrid in the Champions League. If you check out the quality of the two teams, you will understand that Real Madrid is better than Chelsea in terms of quality of players and quality of the Coach and management.

If you still look at the recent performance of the two clubs you understand that Real Madrid is performing better than Chelsea.
If you still go by head-to-head, Real Madrid is better than Chelsea only that Chelsea knows how to resist the Spanish clubs, but it is not at this current form of Chelsea that is the diminishing.

I did not expect any wonders from Chelsea. Maybe Chelsea might not allow them to beat them home and away, but surely Madrid will move to the next round of the Champions League and not Chelsea.

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Quote from: Alanaz on April 03, 2023, 08:03:29 AM

A good comparison by comparing 2 teams from England against Real Madrid. But in a match comparing 2 different teams might not be too precise. I mean maybe one of the teams looks better but gets a bad result against the same 1 team. It should also be considered that maybe one other team has the formula to hold that same team's strategy.

Chelsea when facing real madrid in the champions league there will be a slight difference in their team because Chelsea will play under the tutelage of Bruno Saltor who has a little difficulty predicting their game because Chelsea under Saltor direction may be that they will perform better. Indeed, Real Madrid met again with EPL representatives Chelsea in the quarter-finals after Real Madrid met Liverpool in the last 16. I think this is a pretty big chance for Real Madrid in this match because in terms of the performance of their opponents they been relatively unstable lately.

if real madrid again manages to beat chelsea in the quarter-finals i'm sure they will be strong candidates in the title race. manchester city will face bayern munich for sure this is a big match full of stars in both the biggest teams in their respective league.

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Quote from: Masplanc on April 03, 2023, 07:39:12 AM

Liverpool is better than Chelsea but it was so easy for Real Madrid to beat Liverpool . Chelsea has no chance of defeating Real Madrid. Before you claim Chelsea can win real madrid try to compare the performance of the two teams. Chelsea strength and quality is not half of Real Madrid.

A good comparison by comparing 2 teams from England against Real Madrid. But in a match comparing 2 different teams might not be too precise. I mean maybe one of the teams looks better but gets a bad result against the same 1 team. It should also be considered that maybe one other team has the formula to hold that same team's strategy.

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