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Quote from: Docnaster on March 30, 2023, 04:43:57 PM

Unless Chelsea's winning mentality changes after the international break, then we can we can be hopeful that they can do something in their UEFA Champions League quarter final encounter with Real Madrid because for now, don't see them as major contender for the biggest football trophy in Europe.

The owner of the club must be decisive in getting another manager that can drive the Chelsea team to victory. The current manager is just clueless and doesn't have a specific style of play. It seems he does select 11 players and send to the pitch telling them to do whatever they can do to win the match and you can't play a club like Real Madrid with that mentality

Why have you lost faith in this club, Chelsea? Their domestic league performance is not representative of their performance in the Champions League. If there had been any of that, I'm sure they wouldn't have defeated Dortmund and advanced to the quarterfinals. The coach may be clueless and unsure how to manage the team, but one thing is certain: individual brilliance will triumph here, and Chelsea will prove the world wrong.

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Quote from: Docnaster on March 30, 2023, 04:43:57 PM

Unless Chelsea's winning mentality changes after the international break, then we can we can be hopeful that they can do something in their UEFA Champions League quarter final encounter with Real Madrid because for now, don't see them as major contender for the biggest football trophy in Europe.

We are never contenders until we win the title. In 2021, were we seen as title contenders? No. Nobody usually believe us that we can it until we do it. People are acting like Real Madrid can't be defeated and they're forgetting that out of our last 4 encounters with Real Madrid, we have won twice and drew one. We won then the last time we meet so it won't be difficult to replicate that success. We might be playing badly but that's in the premier league and not the champions league. We actually have a decent record in the champions league this season even though we are in the worst form we have ever been in the last 20years.

Even though we lose against Real Madrid, it won't be without a fight. We'll surely make them work for it and if they think they can performs those comeback they did in 2022 to win the premier league giants to lift the trophy, I'm sorry to disappoint the fans as that won't be happening this season. I don't even see Real Madrid as title contenders this season. Looking at each teams road to the finals, Napoli are actually the favorites although I still stand behind my club and I know the task ahead of us isn't impossible to achieve.

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Quote from: Docnaster on March 30, 2023, 04:43:57 PM

Unless Chelsea's winning mentality changes after the international break, then we can we can be hopeful that they can do something in their UEFA Champions League quarter final encounter with Real Madrid because for now, don't see them as major contender for the biggest football trophy in Europe.

The owner of the club must be decisive in getting another manager that can drive the Chelsea team to victory. The current manager is just clueless and doesn't have a specific style of play. It seems he does select 11 players and send to the pitch telling them to do whatever they can do to win the match and you can't play a club like Real Madrid with that mentality

Although Chelsea players improve their mentality, I am not sure they will win against Real Madrid. Real Madrid squad quality is clearly better than Chelsea squad. They also have a better coach, Ancelotti is an experienced coach for UCL and he often wins the trophy. It is very different with Chelsea coach who has too many problems currently.

Well, Chelsea owner has made the wrong decision to replace the previous coach. In my opinion, Potter never makes Chelsea better, he even makes Chelsea be worse. You can see that Chelsea is struggling in 10th place. A big club like Chelsea should be in the top 5. It is a shame to see this team struggling in the middle of EPL standings. This situation seems to bring an impact on UCL, too. They are not performing very well, they were just lucky to win against Dormund with leading 1 goal only. Now, playing against Real Madrid seems like an unlucky draw for them.

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Chelsea should just forget about this round of the premiere league since they have failed from the beginning of the season and there have not been able to recover from that because there has been a crisis in the club which has affected the once championship.

Apart from having to forget about the championship in the Premier League this season, Chelsea also may not be able to win the Champions League this season because Chelsea's performance is still very bad. I'm not sure Chelsea will be able to do much against Real Madrid in the Quarter-Finals with a greater focus on the match which will take place at home to Real Madrid, because Chelsea still needs improvement on several fronts in order to compete with Real Madrid in the Quarter-Finals.

Unless Chelsea's winning mentality changes after the international break, then we can we can be hopeful that they can do something in their UEFA Champions League quarter final encounter with Real Madrid because for now, don't see them as major contender for the biggest football trophy in Europe.

The owner of the club must be decisive in getting another manager that can drive the Chelsea team to victory. The current manager is just clueless and doesn't have a specific style of play. It seems he does select 11 players and send to the pitch telling them to do whatever they can do to win the match and you can't play a club like Real Madrid with that mentality

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Indeed, that's how Inter is at the moment, they are very far from developing after some minor results in the domestic league and even in the UCL they seem lucky to get to the QF round. But I'm quite curious about Lukaku, he scored a hat trick while playing for Belgium in the previous Euro qualifier, is it possible that Lukaku will start to sharpen again in front of the opponent's goal? including against Benfica later, can he carry Inter to win the match. We have to wait for Lukaku's performance, which is currently starting to rise again and being a striker is a task that he has to do fully to bring Inter to victory.

Inter should have learned a lot during this time, especially since this was a big match, with an opponent who couldn't predict what his play and tactics would be like. With what they have and have fought for so far, Inter are actually capable of it, but it really seems like something is missing from them so they often do things that are beyond predictions. Regarding Lukaku, sometimes a player will be very good when playing in his country, but not at the club, or vice versa. This may be due to the conditions of each club, based on the squad and also the game tactics. However, he will be a shining star again if he is able to make big changes at Inter in the future.

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Quote from: Unsoldier on March 30, 2023, 02:37:06 PM

I don't agree that Inter and Milan are outsiders in the quarter-finals. These clubs have lost their chances of winning the Italian league, so they can concentrate on the Champions League. Besides, these clubs are in 3rd and 4th place in their league and they are in a struggle between them, which keeps them in a good shape all the time. I think either Inter or Milan should make it to the final.

AC Milan will play against Napoli, the chance looks small to qualify for the next round. Napoli is surely superior to AC Milan, Napoli has a stronger squad and they have a better mentality. I can understand if hahay thinks AC Milan won't have a good chance.

While for Inter Milan, it is debatable whether their chance to win against Benfica.
Inter and Benfica are from different leagues, they don't know each other. But considering the experience in UCL, I think Inter Milan has a better experience. And Inter Milan has a strong squad, too. Moreover, they miss the chance to win Serie A title, so they will play all out in UCL.

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Quote from: RILWAN on March 30, 2023, 12:22:49 PM

Chelsea should just forget about this round of the premiere league since they have failed from the beginning of the season and there have not been able to recover from that because there has been a crisis in the club which has affected the once championship.

It'd better if you watched how chelsea was winning its old UCL trophies. Chelsea has passed hard ways to win it. It's pretty much the same as this. None knows what's gonna be the result against real madrid at this moment.
The match has not yet begun and how did you know that if chelsea will not able to pass madrid? let's say that if everything can happen during the match caused by this is football.

Real madrid was even losing so many times against the mediocre team in la liga. As long as the team will never give up until it was actually losing in the match against real madrid and that's something impossible to predict yet people may pick madrid as the most favorite club in upcoming match against chelsea but you should not underestimate chelsea. The result from 2020/2021 can be repeated anytime by chelsea. Madrid is now also underpressure caused by it was losing la liga to the barcelona.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on March 30, 2023, 12:26:02 PM

Guardiola doesn't have a good history against Tuchel in the Champions League. You must be remembering how Chelsea beat Manchester City in the finale of the 2020/21 season in this tournament. Tuchel did a really great work there although there wasn't much time passed since his arrival at Chelsea. Hence Tuchel can be really dangerous with Bayern Munich in this season as well. These managers know themselves very well from not only this tournament but also the English Premier League.

I expect a big clash of tactics in this matchup above all else. Bayern Munich might be a little more durable thanks to Tuchel compared to their previous version. But I still hope to see Manchester City eliminating them.

This is a very controversial match, and even more so arguing about someone else's victory. Obviously, Manchester City is in very good shape now, but Bayern is always good in the Champions League, and even more so now there is a new coach. The only thing, I think Bayern has not had time to "test" these new tactics, therefore, in the match they will be almost useless.

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Quote from: Merit.s on March 30, 2023, 12:09:19 PM

You are right,due their present form and also their performance in the round of 16. We should come into conclusion because sometimes luck can help one of these teams to qualify to the semifinals. I don't think if they continue with their poor performance it will be possible for luck to be on their side. Chelsea do have some little luck when it comes to UCL,we could see that in their last match against Dortmund but I don't think if Chelsea will be able to win Real Madrid and qualify to the semifinals. Assuming it was not Real Madrid but another club,I might say they might be lucky. It is in the semifinals stage that the prediction of clubs that will be playing the finals will be possible.

If any team wants to thwart Real Madrid in the Champions League this season, they will have to do it in the last 16 or quarter-finals or semi-finals. But if Real Madrid make it to the final, I'll bet Real Madrid are title winners, nothing else. You can see the history of Real Madrid's journey in finals, they have almost never failed in many Champions League finals so far. 14 titles is a great proof of a total of 17 finals.

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Yeah, football has its surprises. That's why we love the game. It's nice to see the joy of the fans when their team wins the championship, when that team was considered an underdog. These unexpected moments bring a lot of joy and positive emotions.

that is the main attraction of the game of football. the favorite team may not be able to win easily to the final round. or a team that looks unfavorable because of poor play in the domestic league actually wins and makes it through to the final round.
the underdog always throws a surprise, and that sometimes makes our bets disappear. but this time's quarterfinals, which team is the underdog? all are strong and big teams. although Chelsea has been worse off this season. but they prove qualified for the quarter-finals. although it will be difficult, but they are quite extraordinary until the quarter-finals. Benfica top 1 Premiera league. Inter top 3 Serie A. Man City top 2 Premier league. Munich top 2 Bundesliga. Milan Top 4 Serie A. Napoli top 1 Serie A. Madrid top 2 La Liga. and Chelsea top 10 Premier League.

Chelsea, Milan and Inter are the three teams that in my opinion don't have a good chance of advancing further for the semifinals and also the final. Because teams like Real Madrid, Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Napoli and Benfica are teams that at this moment look better and have more chances for good results too.

But yes, unfortunately one of them will be eliminated in the quarter-finals and also in the semifinals and then, only the two best “of” the best teams of the season, will play in the final. It's not easy to predict which team will win the trophy, because just to predict which team will play in the final, I think it's already a difficult prediction.

I don't agree that Inter and Milan are outsiders in the quarter-finals. These clubs have lost their chances of winning the Italian league, so they can concentrate on the Champions League. Besides, these clubs are in 3rd and 4th place in their league and they are in a struggle between them, which keeps them in a good shape all the time. I think either Inter or Milan should make it to the final.

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Quote from: wmaurik on March 30, 2023, 01:25:37 PM

Apart from having to forget about the championship in the Premier League this season, Chelsea also may not be able to win the Champions League this season because Chelsea's performance is still very bad. I'm not sure Chelsea will be able to do much against Real Madrid in the Quarter-Finals with a greater focus on the match which will take place at home to Real Madrid, because Chelsea still needs improvement on several fronts in order to compete with Real Madrid in the Quarter-Finals.

Chelsea already has no hope in the premier league this season and now playing against Real Madrid in the Champions League, their stars surely isn’t bright. Chelsea performance hasn’t been top notch lately and in my opinion, they don’t stand a chance going in to play Real Madrid with the current form they’ve got.
With the current form Madrid is playing at, they would still have to be serious going in as Chelsea isn’t a small team either despite their current form. After all, while others have been defeated, they’ve still made it so far to the quarter finals of the Champions League.

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Quote from: hahay on March 30, 2023, 11:26:06 AM

Chelsea, Milan and Inter are the three teams that in my opinion don't have a good chance of advancing further for the semifinals and also the final. Because teams like Real Madrid, Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Napoli and Benfica are teams that at this moment look better and have more chances for good results too.

I agree that Real Madrid, Napoli are clearly stronger than Chelsea and AC Milan but I disagree that Benfica are too stronger than Inter Milan. Those clubs are the same in quality and I am not surprise if Inter Milan or Benfica become winner after final whistle for their quarter finals.

What is idea to put Bayern Munich and Manchester City together? They will have to eliminate each other in quarter finals.

I think you should be able to better understand what I'm saying, because I'm not lumping them together or what I mean, I'm just saying teams are better and not or teams have a chance to go through or not. I know that Bayern Munich and Manchester City will compete and one of them will be eliminated in this phase or in the quarter-finals.

Also, you didn't quote all of my post, so you don't understand what I mean. Because after all, in the end there will only be two teams that will play in the final, so even if you think Real Madrid, Napoli and Inter are better, but in the end they all won't be able to play in the final together, right.
Please, don't make statements just from the posts you cut off, because that will make you fail to understand.

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Quote from: wmaurik on March 30, 2023, 01:25:37 PM

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Chelsea should just forget about this round of the premiere league since they have failed from the beginning of the season and there have not been able to recover from that because there has been a crisis in the club which has affected the once championship.

Apart from having to forget about the championship in the Premier League this season, Chelsea also may not be able to win the Champions League this season because Chelsea's performance is still very bad. I'm not sure Chelsea will be able to do much against Real Madrid in the Quarter-Finals with a greater focus on the match which will take place at home to Real Madrid, because Chelsea still needs improvement on several fronts in order to compete with Real Madrid in the Quarter-Finals.

It will be an easy match for Real Madrid, and I remember this encounter being exactly the same as last season's quarter-final meeting. And last season, in the first leg, Chelsea hosted Real Madrid and at that time Real Madrid won 3-1 thanks to Karim Benzema's hat trick.
and in the first leg of the quarter-finals which will take place later, Real madrid will host Chelsea at the Santiago Bernabeu. So I mean considering Chelsea's performance last season can be said to be very good and able to compete at the top of the standings and is in third place in the EPL, and when compared to Chelsea's current performance which is very bad. And I think Real Madrid will win against Chelsea, and there is a possibility of winning by a big score.

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Quote from: Merit.s on March 30, 2023, 12:09:19 PM

You are right,due their present form and also their performance in the round of 16. We should come into conclusion because sometimes luck can help one of these teams to qualify to the semifinals. I don't think if they continue with their poor performance it will be possible for luck to be on their side. Chelsea do have some little luck when it comes to UCL,we could see that in their last match against Dortmund but I don't think if Chelsea will be able to win Real Madrid and qualify to the semifinals. Assuming it was not Real Madrid but another club,I might say they might be lucky. It is in the semifinals stage that the prediction of clubs that will be playing the finals will be possible.

None of us can say for sure who will win the game between Chelsea and Real Madrid. Everyone already knows that Real Madrid is the team that has won the most Champions League titles so far in this competition, but that will not stop other teams from trying their best to qualify for the next round. The quarter-finals have 2 legs, so we'll have to wait and see who really proves his worth this season between Real Madrid and Chelsea.

Graham Potter still seems confident enough to face Ancelotti, that is something to watch out for in the quarter-finals this season. Win or lose is a consequence, but they will do their best.

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"I do not know Ancelotti personally but I have faced him when he was at Everton," he said. "I know he is a gentleman. It goes without saying, the amount of respect I have for him and what he has achieved is amazing, the length of time between winning the Champions League, 20 years, that is amazing and incredible. I said we would try and win the Champions League but that is the same for the other seven clubs and you can always lose in the quarter-final as that is the nature of the Champions League."

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Quote from: wmaurik on March 30, 2023, 01:25:37 PM

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Chelsea should just forget about this round of the premiere league since they have failed from the beginning of the season and there have not been able to recover from that because there has been a crisis in the club which has affected the once championship.

Apart from having to forget about the championship in the Premier League this season, Chelsea also may not be able to win the Champions League this season because Chelsea's performance is still very bad. I'm not sure Chelsea will be able to do much against Real Madrid in the Quarter-Finals with a greater focus on the match which will take place at home to Real Madrid, because Chelsea still needs improvement on several fronts in order to compete with Real Madrid in the Quarter-Finals.

It is already obvious that Chelsea does not have a place in the English Premier League title race for this season.
There is no kind of magic that they will perform to be in that top four with the nature of the English Premier League for this season.
I even believe that Liverpool has more chances than Chelsea according to the table of the English Premier League.
Saying about the Champions League. I also know that Chelsea does not have a place in the champions league. This is because I do not see them proceeding to the next level by eliminating almighty Real Madrid in the Champions League that we all know how important it is to Real Madrid as a tradition.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on March 30, 2023, 12:26:02 PM

Guardiola doesn't have a good history against Tuchel in the Champions League. You must be remembering how Chelsea beat Manchester City in the finale of the 2020/21 season in this tournament. Tuchel did a really great work there although there wasn't much time passed since his arrival at Chelsea. Hence Tuchel can be really dangerous with Bayern Munich in this season as well. These managers know themselves very well from not only this tournament but also the English Premier League.

I expect a big clash of tactics in this matchup above all else. Bayern Munich might be a little more durable thanks to Tuchel compared to their previous version. But I still hope to see Manchester City eliminating them.

Of course this will be 2 coaches will clash tactics. But the problem I see is that Thomas Tuchel has just become Bayern Munich coach, that's what really worries me. It's not that I doubt Thomas Tuchel, but the time he got before the game really worked. Hopefully he can adapt quickly, not only him but all the players also hopefully can adapt quickly to a strategy that might be different from their previous coach, Nagelsmann. The genius of a coach is needed here, because it is not easy to implement what he plans with a short time.

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Chelsea should just forget about this round of the premiere league since they have failed from the beginning of the season and there have not been able to recover from that because there has been a crisis in the club which has affected the once championship.

Apart from having to forget about the championship in the Premier League this season, Chelsea also may not be able to win the Champions League this season because Chelsea's performance is still very bad. I'm not sure Chelsea will be able to do much against Real Madrid in the Quarter-Finals with a greater focus on the match which will take place at home to Real Madrid, because Chelsea still needs improvement on several fronts in order to compete with Real Madrid in the Quarter-Finals.

We can't expect Chelsea right now even though they are trying to be as focused as possible on their Champions League game. In fact, Graham Potter has not been able to bring Chelsea to their best game like before they experienced a decline in performance like they are today. The favorites are clear at this point, and we all know who will be the favorites to win the game and eliminate their opponents. That's because one club is not in its best game.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on March 30, 2023, 12:26:02 PM

Guardiola doesn't have a good history against Tuchel in the Champions League. You must be remembering how Chelsea beat Manchester City in the finale of the 2020/21 season in this tournament. Tuchel did a really great work there although there wasn't much time passed since his arrival at Chelsea. Hence Tuchel can be really dangerous with Bayern Munich in this season as well. These managers know themselves very well from not only this tournament but also the English Premier League.

I expect a big clash of tactics in this matchup above all else. Bayern Munich might be a little more durable thanks to Tuchel compared to their previous version. But I still hope to see Manchester City eliminating them.

Guardiola and Tuchel faced each other in the Champions League before but a few weeks passed and these two coaches are not the same as before. Tuchel had some tactics in Chelsea and the tactics worked perfectly but we can't surely tell if the tactics will work on Bayern Munich or not. However, since Tuchel and Guardiola know each other I guess this time Guardiola got more chance to beat Tuchel because of their stable situation.

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Quote from: RILWAN on March 30, 2023, 12:22:49 PM

Chelsea should just forget about this round of the premiere league since they have failed from the beginning of the season and there have not been able to recover from that because there has been a crisis in the club which has affected the once championship.

Apart from having to forget about the championship in the Premier League this season, Chelsea also may not be able to win the Champions League this season because Chelsea's performance is still very bad. I'm not sure Chelsea will be able to do much against Real Madrid in the Quarter-Finals with a greater focus on the match which will take place at home to Real Madrid, because Chelsea still needs improvement on several fronts in order to compete with Real Madrid in the Quarter-Finals.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on March 30, 2023, 04:33:16 AM

Real Madrid, Manchester City and Napoli are the most likely to qualify for that final. Madrid will play against Chelsea, Chelsea's performance is erratic. The new coach could not stabilize the team. So the chances of Madrid winning this match are high.

Manchester City will play against the mighty Bayern Munich. Although Bayern Munich is a strong team, they have changed coaches in recent times. And the team's performance is likely to deteriorate slightly due to a change of coach before such an important match. So Manchester City is favorites against Munich.

AC Milan's performance is very poor. If Napoli doesn't make any big mistakes in this match then Napoli will win. However, it is foolish to consider Inter Milan as one-sided favorites in the Inter vs Benfica match. I watched Inter Milan's recent performance. There is no doubt that the team is renowned. But their performance is erratic. There is also the possibility of their defeat against Benfica.

I agree that these three are the likely ones, Napoli more than anyone else because they will face Milan and most likely Inter afterwards which is going to be easy for them comparing the teams in the league, sure there could be some change, we have seen lower ranked teams beat higher ranked teams before so there is no shock there, but I do not think that it will happen this season, the difference is just way too big.

I believe that we should be seeing Napoli vs City probably, Real doesn't look that mighty this season neither, so anything could happen but a City vs Napoli finals is something I can see and I am guessing that would be the case probably.

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Football is beautiful for this reason, it is unpredictable. For this reason, sometimes a technically poorer team wins.
If you remember a few years ago Greece won the European Championship with a cheap team. He played as a team and defeated everyone.
Remember?

No one can predict the exact outcome of the match, there are many surprises that can occur while the match is still in progress. Your argument cannot be refuted, the unseeded team can win the match with several factors.
Still remember what happened in the 2004 final, the two Underdog teams Monaco and Porto managed to advance to the final round while overturning many people's assumptions and managed to defeat the toughest opponent on their way. Surprises like this can still happen in modern football, underdog teams can make big surprises.

Yeah, football has its surprises. That's why we love the game. It's nice to see the joy of the fans when their team wins the championship, when that team was considered an underdog. These unexpected moments bring a lot of joy and positive emotions.

Yes, Football is a game where almost every match is different and unpredictable. If a player is playing well throughout the whole tournament, doesn't mean he's going to play well in the final. And in football, any team with a decent coach and good tactics has a chance to defeat a well-known and bigger government. The players just need to trust in their abilities and their coach.

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