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Quote from: wmaurik on March 29, 2023, 04:23:28 PM

Of course it would be very interesting if Napoli could be in the Champions League final this season against Manchester City (and even if Manchester City could beat Bayern Munich and also Real Madrid) because I'm also not sure that Chelsea can hold Real Madrid from advancing to the next round because Chelsea's performance this season is not very good and also not on par with other teams who are still in the Champions League now.

If Napoli can win the game in the quarter finals, they will meet either Inter or Benfica. If Inter wins, then the semifinals, Napoli will meet with a Serie-A team again, which is more likely they are able to win against Inter. If this result is correct, then Napoli have a bigger opportunity to reach the Finals when referring to their achievements in Serie A. But, against Benfica, I think it's still waiting for the results of the 1st leg. because benfica also has good performance in the domestic league, so it's quite difficult for me to say that Napoli will beat them.

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The only team in the Champions League I was not expected to see at this stage is Chelsea because they had a bad performance in the previous weeks and I was expecting to see Dortmund at this stage instead of them but regarding the other teams, I guess we can see Manchester City and Napoli at the final match because they both are doing very well, especially Napoli because they have enough time to get recovery from the Serie A games and get themselves ready for champions league games.

Of course it would be very interesting if Napoli could be in the Champions League final this season against Manchester City (and even if Manchester City could beat Bayern Munich and also Real Madrid) because I'm also not sure that Chelsea can hold Real Madrid from advancing to the next round because Chelsea's performance this season is not very good and also not on par with other teams who are still in the Champions League now.

There is a hard way for any team to be in the final match because there are many strong and sharp teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid and Bayern Munich for any teams to face directly or indirectly before reaching the final match, I guess if Napoli reaches the final game and even if they don't win the game they still achieved a lot because as far as I they couldn't reach this stage before.

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Quote from: wmaurik on March 29, 2023, 04:23:28 PM

Of course it would be very interesting if Napoli could be in the Champions League final this season against Manchester City (and even if Manchester City could beat Bayern Munich and also Real Madrid) because I'm also not sure that Chelsea can hold Real Madrid from advancing to the next round because Chelsea's performance this season is not very good and also not on par with other teams who are still in the Champions League now.

Napoli is one of the most desirable teams to reach the final, their chances are very high to be there this season. But let's see how far their journey goes this season because Milan is not always bad to be expected to stop Napoli's run in the Champions League. I might be very surprised if in fact it was Milan who made it to the semi-finals, but if it was Napoli then that would be normal.

I'm not entirely pessimistic about Milan's chances, but Milan seem to have a low chance compared to the other two Serie A teams to the semi-finals. The Napoli vs Manchester City final was great, but we have to see what they get in the quarter-finals first.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on March 29, 2023, 03:52:53 PM

The only team in the Champions League I was not expected to see at this stage is Chelsea because they had a bad performance in the previous weeks and I was expecting to see Dortmund at this stage instead of them but regarding the other teams, I guess we can see Manchester City and Napoli at the final match because they both are doing very well, especially Napoli because they have enough time to get recovery from the Serie A games and get themselves ready for champions league games.

Of course it would be very interesting if Napoli could be in the Champions League final this season against Manchester City (and even if Manchester City could beat Bayern Munich and also Real Madrid) because I'm also not sure that Chelsea can hold Real Madrid from advancing to the next round because Chelsea's performance this season is not very good and also not on par with other teams who are still in the Champions League now.

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Quote from: Zlantann on March 29, 2023, 02:54:37 PM

Bayern Munich is not the club it used to be in terms of dominance of the German league. Thomas Tuchel is not a magician, hence I am not expecting him to get an instant result in Bayern Munich. Manchester City has the advantage in this match because it will take sometime for the new coach to stabilize the team. I expect the Bayern team to improve with time because Tuchel needs understand the team. The match between these two teams is unpredictable City might win the first leg but the second leg will be the real battle. Thia match will be a real thriller and a must watch.

In fact, assuming that Bayern will play their normal football and City will do the same, I see a high probability that Bayern will win easily. Guardiola's teams abuse the control of the ball, but against Bayern (which knows how to control the ball and counterattack and pressure and aritmic football), this has always worked poorly - you can see from the history of meetings with Barcelona. This is the case when one style is clearly stronger than another, even without taking into account the performers. I hope that everything will be so and Tuchel with his tactical decisions will not spoil the whole pattern.

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Quote from: MAAManda on March 29, 2023, 01:25:47 PM

Look carefully at what I'm saying friends, the percentage I give is based on the consistency of the two teams in the UCL. Did you know that Manchester City doesn't have a good record in the UCL? On the other hand, Bayern Munich has a good record from season to season in the UCL. They are just like Real Madrid who have a winning mentality in the UCL, not like Manchester City who keep failing.

You are right about Bayern Munich, but Manchester City is a team that is trying to win the same title. Manchester City have been favorites for many seasons, but they still failed, but that doesn't mean they will also fail this season even though Bayern Munich have a captivating history in the Champions League.

This season Manchester City is better than last season, but one does not know if they will manage to win the title in the end. There are stages for them to complete, but there is a chance to see them reach the semi-finals.

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I see Napoli being a really big favourite against Milan in their matchup in this stage. There is a significant level of difference in strength between these teams currently. We must have seen it already by now. Napoli have already proven that they can beat Milan even in an away match and they are likely to do so again in Naples in a couple of days as well.

Napoli are on an incredible run this season in the Serie A and Champions League both in short. But Milan are still struggling with the same issues at not only defending but also attacking. I don't see Milan being able to eliminate Napoli for now.

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Real Madrid has a slightly more favorable draw this season than last season. Then they drew a top European team every game and it was a miracle that they survived some games. But Benzema was in top form at the time and saved them many times. I think against City especially the chance was less than 1% that they would win that game. Lost 1-0 away and trailed 0-1 at home with 5 minutes to play. How can you still win 2-1 you ask? City have already run into zeperds a few times, maybe they have learned from that and are able to take the title this time.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on March 29, 2023, 10:10:04 AM

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I don't think Real Madrid is in a good situation right now, they nearly lost the La Liga title to Barcelona and there is o hope for them anymore and this can have a negative effect on the team, however, they have enough time to recover. On the other hand, Bayern Munich started working with a new coach and we can't be sure how they are going to perform even in Bundesliga also he needs some time with his team. While Napoli got a more stable situation.

I don't see league performance and Champions League performance in the same way. Real Madrid always do well in the Champions League. Although they are on the verge of losing the league title but I believe Real Madrid will surprise again in the Champions League. Moreover, Bayern Munich and Manchester City are far ahead in the race to win the Champions League.

you are right Despite performing poorly in the league, there are many teams who are capable of performing well in the Champions League. We have seen Chelsea's performance in 2020-21. Chelsea's performance in the Premier League was very poor. But this team has managed to win the Champions League title. Real Madrid and Manchester City are not at the top of their respective leagues, but they are doing well in the Champions League. However, it is not possible to predict which team will win the title this season. Several teams are favorites to win this year's title. I look forward to seeing the four teams qualify for the semi-finals.

One interesting about the Real Madrid and Chelsea UEFA Champions League quarter final encounter is that the two teams are almost out of the race to win their respective leagues. While Real Madrid is 12 points behind their league leaders Barcelona, Chelsea on the other hand are 10th in their own league table standings.

So they know that their only chance of winning a major trophy this season is to try as much as possible and win the Champions League. Real Madrid stands a better chance because of the experienced players in their squad and also the Champions League winning mentality the team possess so for Chelsea to win the tie, they're gonna put out an extraordinary performance against the 14 times champions

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Quote from: skarais on March 29, 2023, 01:54:32 PM

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you are right Despite performing poorly in the league, there are many teams who are capable of performing well in the Champions League. We have seen Chelsea's performance in 2020-21. Chelsea's performance in the Premier League was very poor. But this team has managed to win the Champions League title. Real Madrid and Manchester City are not at the top of their respective leagues, but they are doing well in the Champions League. However, it is not possible to predict which team will win the title this season. Several teams are favorites to win this year's title. I look forward to seeing the four teams qualify for the semi-finals.

Real Madrid, Manchester City, Napoli and Inter are some of the teams I hope to qualify for the semifinals this season.
I'm also not looking down on Chelsea, Bayern Munich, Benfica or Milan, but I think it's good to expect the top 4 teams above to qualify for the semi-finals based on the odds.

Chelsea is not getting good results in the Premier League, of course that is true. But Chelsea's performance has been very solid and they are a very dangerous team in attack. Bayern Munich is another good team but I tend to think Manchester City are the better favourites.

The only team in the Champions League I was not expected to see at this stage is Chelsea because they had a bad performance in the previous weeks and I was expecting to see Dortmund at this stage instead of them but regarding the other teams, I guess we can see Manchester City and Napoli at the final match because they both are doing very well, especially Napoli because they have enough time to get recovery from the Serie A games and get themselves ready for champions league games.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on March 29, 2023, 02:45:30 PM

Pep Guardiola off course shouldn't be written off for this game, because he lost to Thomas Tuchel doesn't mean he'll do same against him this time, anything is bound and sure to happen.
I guess to really don't know the reason why Pep Guardiola has been called the perfectionists,he's got a good team and we'll see Cancelo face Manchester City he seems so much excited from my observations. Bayern Munich are good attacking wise but they conceded unnecessarily this season with a slacking defense

Bayern Munich is not the club it used to be in terms of dominance of the German league. Thomas Tuchel is not a magician, hence I am not expecting him to get an instant result in Bayern Munich. Manchester City has the advantage in this match because it will take sometime for the new coach to stabilize the team. I expect the Bayern team to improve with time because Tuchel needs understand the team. The match between these two teams is unpredictable City might win the first leg but the second leg will be the real battle. Thia match will be a real thriller and a must watch.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on March 29, 2023, 01:50:32 PM

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With Tuchel currently coach of Bayern Munich, it looks like Manchester City will not be able to beat Bayern Munich easily. But yes, at least I personally will still be waiting for Bayern Munich's results in the Bundesliga match, because Bayern Munich will play against Dortmund and also against Freiburg in the DFB Pokal and also in the Bundesliga and yes, I think it will not be an easy opponent.

So, if Bayern Munich gets good results, it is possible that Tuchel can apply the right strategy when he plays against Manchester City in the Champions League. Therefore, this match is indeed a match that is difficult to predict, but hopefully after the match I mentioned above it can open the judgment about Tuchel at Bayern Munich in a short time.

Bayern Munich with better Champions League experience, also with their formidable team and now coupled with the fact that Thomas Tuchel has taken charge of the team, He knows Guardiola weak point and how to win him when it comes to the Champions League compition, I see Bayern a little bit ahead of Manchester City, because City are not wholy in their best form this season, so I see the possibility of Bayern Munich progressing to the next round after the two phase of the game.

Pep Guardiola off course shouldn't be written off for this game, because he lost to Thomas Tuchel doesn't mean he'll do same against him this time, anything is bound and sure to happen.
I guess to really don't know the reason why Pep Guardiola has been called the perfectionists,he's got a good team and we'll see Cancelo face Manchester City he seems so much excited from my observations. Bayern Munich are good attacking wise but they conceded unnecessarily this season with a slacking defense

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on March 29, 2023, 10:10:04 AM

you are right Despite performing poorly in the league, there are many teams who are capable of performing well in the Champions League. We have seen Chelsea's performance in 2020-21. Chelsea's performance in the Premier League was very poor. But this team has managed to win the Champions League title. Real Madrid and Manchester City are not at the top of their respective leagues, but they are doing well in the Champions League. However, it is not possible to predict which team will win the title this season. Several teams are favorites to win this year's title. I look forward to seeing the four teams qualify for the semi-finals.

Real Madrid, Manchester City, Napoli and Inter are some of the teams I hope to qualify for the semifinals this season.
I'm also not looking down on Chelsea, Bayern Munich, Benfica or Milan, but I think it's good to expect the top 4 teams above to qualify for the semi-finals based on the odds.

Chelsea is not getting good results in the Premier League, of course that is true. But Chelsea's performance has been very solid and they are a very dangerous team in attack. Bayern Munich is another good team but I tend to think Manchester City are the better favourites.

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Quote from: hahay on March 29, 2023, 01:31:14 PM

With Tuchel currently coach of Bayern Munich, it looks like Manchester City will not be able to beat Bayern Munich easily. But yes, at least I personally will still be waiting for Bayern Munich's results in the Bundesliga match, because Bayern Munich will play against Dortmund and also against Freiburg in the DFB Pokal and also in the Bundesliga and yes, I think it will not be an easy opponent.

So, if Bayern Munich gets good results, it is possible that Tuchel can apply the right strategy when he plays against Manchester City in the Champions League. Therefore, this match is indeed a match that is difficult to predict, but hopefully after the match I mentioned above it can open the judgment about Tuchel at Bayern Munich in a short time.

Bayern Munich with better Champions League experience, also with their formidable team and now coupled with the fact that Thomas Tuchel has taken charge of the team, He knows Guardiola weak point and how to win him when it comes to the Champions League compition, I see Bayern a little bit ahead of Manchester City, because City are not wholy in their best form this season, so I see the possibility of Bayern Munich progressing to the next round after the two phase of the game.

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I don't think Napoli should be considered favorites to win so soon. Of course this time they are in very good form and deserve to reach the final. It cannot be said that if luck is good, they can win the Champions League by winning the final as well. On the other hand, we will never leave Bayern Munich and Real Madrid behind. There is still a long way to go to win the Champions League. It is true that reaching the final is much easier for Napoli.

Why? Have you see the previous meeting between napoli against ac milan? any clubs have the same chance to win UCL at this moment. it's caused by the chance for napoli go to go the final is much bigger compared with another team.

You can also imagine if chelsea lose against madrid and madrid will be facing the winner between city vs bayern. There will be only 1 club that will be qualified to the final while in another side. There are some seri a clubs like intermilan, acmilan and napoli.
Napoli has become the most favorite teams in that group. Let's said that if napoli will win against ac milan and napoli may face benfica or intermilan. That can be considered as easy opponents for napoli.

I would not take the past result against inter as something that needs to be feel worried. It's caused by if we are seeing the statistic and napoli is far above intermilan in that match. Intermilan was just lucky enough to make 1 goal against napoli while napoli missed many golden chances.

On the other hand, no matter who plays against Milan, I would have considered it a close game or easy to beat, Milan has been terrible of late and I think it would be very hard for them to beat any team in UCL in a 2 game stretch. Inter would probably be the only other one and Benfica too, rest would easily beat them.

Napoli is way too good for Milan to even have a competition and I think it is important to realize that soon if you want to bet on this game. Anyone who will wager on Milan to win will end up with a big risk on their lap. I hope for everyone to win but someone has to lose and Milan will be the one without a doubt if you watched them lately.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on March 29, 2023, 01:07:07 PM

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You're right, the Manchester City vs Bayern Munich match is a match that's very difficult to predict, because apart from the UCL, the two teams are still on their way to getting the domestic league title. But if I have to choose 1 team between Manchester City or Bayern Munich, I prefer Bayern Munich. This is very reasonable, because Bayern Munich from season to season shows their consistency in the UCL. But Manchester City is also not bad, they have very good squad depth, so I think their percentage of going to the semi-final is 40% (IMO).

The game between Manchester City and Bayern Munich is going to be very a difficult game, is even going to be more difficult for Manchester City because Bayern Munich have changed there coach, Bayern Munich are going to make life really difficult for Manchester City because the coach they signed has played in the English premier League before and he has a very good record against Manchester City, but I still believe Manchester City will make it through to the next round, so is a win win for the Manchester City side.

With Tuchel currently coach of Bayern Munich, it looks like Manchester City will not be able to beat Bayern Munich easily. But yes, at least I personally will still be waiting for Bayern Munich's results in the Bundesliga match, because Bayern Munich will play against Dortmund and also against Freiburg in the DFB Pokal and also in the Bundesliga and yes, I think it will not be an easy opponent.

So, if Bayern Munich gets good results, it is possible that Tuchel can apply the right strategy when he plays against Manchester City in the Champions League. Therefore, this match is indeed a match that is difficult to predict, but hopefully after the match I mentioned above it can open the judgment about Tuchel at Bayern Munich in a short time.

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Quote from: Docnaster on March 29, 2023, 12:43:01 PM

Lol! Why 40℅?
Bayern Munich has just effected a change in their Managerial angle, are u already concluding that the club will be performing better? Or do u not think that changing a team's coach at a moment like this will have little effect on the players? What ever is your answer, I am not disputing it. But I am on the opinion that, even though the decision seems perfect for the team and it's management, it is not all the players that will be completely ln support of that very sudden change. To me, the winning percentage of both team is (50-50)%

Look carefully at what I'm saying friends, the percentage I give is based on the consistency of the two teams in the UCL. Did you know that Manchester City doesn't have a good record in the UCL? On the other hand, Bayern Munich has a good record from season to season in the UCL. They are just like Real Madrid who have a winning mentality in the UCL, not like Manchester City who keep failing.

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Quote from: Docnaster on March 29, 2023, 12:43:01 PM

You're right, the Manchester City vs Bayern Munich match is a match that's very difficult to predict, because apart from the UCL, the two teams are still on their way to getting the domestic league title. But if I have to choose 1 team between Manchester City or Bayern Munich, I prefer Bayern Munich. This is very reasonable, because Bayern Munich from season to season shows their consistency in the UCL. But Manchester City is also not bad, they have very good squad depth, so I think their percentage of going to the semi-final is 40% (IMO).

The game between Manchester City and Bayern Munich is going to be very a difficult game, is even going to be more difficult for Manchester City because Bayern Munich have changed there coach, Bayern Munich are going to make life really difficult for Manchester City because the coach they signed has played in the English premier League before and he has a very good record against Manchester City, but I still believe Manchester City will make it through to the next round, so is a win win for the Manchester City side.

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Quote from: MAAManda on March 29, 2023, 10:45:29 AM

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Among the 8 teams that will play in the quarter-finals of the Champions League this season, to be honest, I'm quite confuse between Bayern Munich and Manchester City which of the two teams will go on to the semi-finals
The Bayern Munich and Manchester City match is the most difficult to predict in my opinion compare to the other three match
What do you think, who is most worthy of qualify for the semifinals between Bayern Munich and Manchester City?

You're right, the Manchester City vs Bayern Munich match is a match that's very difficult to predict, because apart from the UCL, the two teams are still on their way to getting the domestic league title. But if I have to choose 1 team between Manchester City or Bayern Munich, I prefer Bayern Munich. This is very reasonable, because Bayern Munich from season to season shows their consistency in the UCL. But Manchester City is also not bad, they have very good squad depth, so I think their percentage of going to the semi-final is 40% (IMO).

Lol! Why 40℅?
Bayern Munich has just effected a change in their Managerial angle, are u already concluding that the club will be performing better? Or do u not think that changing a team's coach at a moment like this will have little effect on the players? What ever is your answer, I am not disputing it. But I am on the opinion that, even though the decision seems perfect for the team and it's management, it is not all the players that will be completely ln support of that very sudden change. To me, the winning percentage of both team is (50-50)%

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I don't think Real Madrid is in a good situation right now, they nearly lost the La Liga title to Barcelona and there is o hope for them anymore and this can have a negative effect on the team, however, they have enough time to recover. On the other hand, Bayern Munich started working with a new coach and we can't be sure how they are going to perform even in Bundesliga also he needs some time with his team. While Napoli got a more stable situation.

I don't see league performance and Champions League performance in the same way. Real Madrid always do well in the Champions League. Although they are on the verge of losing the league title but I believe Real Madrid will surprise again in the Champions League. Moreover, Bayern Munich and Manchester City are far ahead in the race to win the Champions League.

you are right Despite performing poorly in the league, there are many teams who are capable of performing well in the Champions League. We have seen Chelsea's performance in 2020-21. Chelsea's performance in the Premier League was very poor. But this team has managed to win the Champions League title. Real Madrid and Manchester City are not at the top of their respective leagues, but they are doing well in the Champions League. However, it is not possible to predict which team will win the title this season. Several teams are favorites to win this year's title. I look forward to seeing the four teams qualify for the semi-finals.

I agree with this, every competition they play gets different results, we can't assume it's all the same although we definitely consider this with what they do in the domestic league. There are good teams in the domestic league, but they failed in the Champions League. Like Barcelona for example, this season they are very good in La Liga but they can't do much in the Champions League even in the Europa League. So each competition can produce very different results for each team.

A good performance in the domestic league does not guarantee success in the Champions League. While PSG and Barcelona dominate the domestic league, they do not fare well in the Champions League. On the other hand, none of Manchester City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Inter Milan or Chelsea is in the top position in the domestic league. Among the Champions League teams, Napoli and Benfica teams have been able to continue to perform consistently well in the domestic league and the Champions League. Besides, the performance of other teams is not as good as expected in the domestic league. But there is no surprise if Benfica or Napoli are championing this season. These two teams have proved their worth in this year's Champions League.

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