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Quote from: hd49728 on March 30, 2023, 03:06:26 AM

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If I assume that Benfica and Napoli will face each other at the semi final which can happen I think that between these two teams it is only natural for Napoli to come out victorious because of their awesome performance during all the season in Serie A and in Champions League.Benfica had somewhat of a same season but I think the difference in Serie A and Liga Portugal is still notable despite Serie A losing value each year that we pass.For me personally though I predict Inter to be in the semi-finals and I have no prediction of which other team will be here.

Benfica look to be a good team and they did performed well in Champions League but I don't think they can easily beat Inter Milan. Between them and Inter Milan does not have big quality difference and they can beat Inter Milan but chance is like a little bit fluctuating around 50%, a bit lower or a bit higher than 50%.

Even Napoli will not surely beat AC Milan even they totally dominate Serie A in this season. However, in knock out matches, one mistake or one fantastic moment from a star player can decide winner. At this stage, all clubs have star players who can make such fantastic moment and we can not know what players will make it. Time will tell and we will know the winners after ending of quarter final stage.

I agree that having semi finals between two clubs from two domestic leagues would be more exciting than an internal meeting.

I think Napoli have no problem beating Milan. Probably even in two matches. Napoli are playing well this season, both in Serie A and in the Champions League. Milan have struggled to beat unstable Tottenham at home and not lose away. But they won't be able to do the same against Napoli. They have been playing much worse in Serie A and Napoli know how to play against Milan.

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Quote from: Bobrox on March 30, 2023, 12:41:28 AM

Seems terrible with their performance between Champion League and Primer League because success qualify to quarter final but have poor performance in domestic league. I don't sure about Chelsea's lucky keep going on at the quarter final round because against Real Madrid are experienced team in Champion League is not easy and have quit well performance in La Liga.

Had Dortmund played as they should in the 16 round they would have been in the quarter-finals because Chelsea were really in doubt in that game but football can always give us what we don't expect and Chelsea's win over Dortmund in the second leg got them into the quarter-finals but that's not the picture that finally they have come out of bad form because Chelsea still shows the same win and lose is just as easy for them to deal with, but in the UCL I think they are not big enough to have a chance, maybe Chelsea's first leg will play defensively and the second leg will attack more to win but Real Madrid proved themselves to be a strong club by beating Liverpool 5-2 at anfield so Potter's strategy might not work well when facing Real Madrid later.

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Quote from: swogerino on March 30, 2023, 01:25:38 AM

If I assume that Benfica and Napoli will face each other at the semi final which can happen I think that between these two teams it is only natural for Napoli to come out victorious because of their awesome performance during all the season in Serie A and in Champions League.Benfica had somewhat of a same season but I think the difference in Serie A and Liga Portugal is still notable despite Serie A losing value each year that we pass.For me personally though I predict Inter to be in the semi-finals and I have no prediction of which other team will be here.

Benfica look to be a good team and they did performed well in Champions League but I don't think they can easily beat Inter Milan. Between them and Inter Milan does not have big quality difference and they can beat Inter Milan but chance is like a little bit fluctuating around 50%, a bit lower or a bit higher than 50%.

Even Napoli will not surely beat AC Milan even they totally dominate Serie A in this season. However, in knock out matches, one mistake or one fantastic moment from a star player can decide winner. At this stage, all clubs have star players who can make such fantastic moment and we can not know what players will make it. Time will tell and we will know the winners after ending of quarter final stage.

I agree that having semi finals between two clubs from two domestic leagues would be more exciting than an internal meeting.

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For example, if later in the first leg Inter lose, surely they will learn how to overcome Benfica in the second leg with a better strategy to outperform the aggregate results at home later. But indeed Benfica is an opponent who is quite defeated for Inter at this time, considering that Inter's performance is still below Benfica in the domestic league or UCL. But for sure if there is any miracle I think it will only come to inter and for benfica I am very sure they will get rid of inter in the QF stage.

Yes, the problem is in Inter's own performance which is still very inconsistent. Sometimes they are able to play very well, effectively, efficiently, and also accurately. So they are still able to provide very satisfying and surprising results. However, it is not uncommon for their appearance to disappoint because of the many wasted opportunities. Here, if Inter have its own challenges, at least to manage its own performance, each player. Meanwhile, Benfica has been playing more consistently

Indeed, that's how Inter is at the moment, they are very far from developing after some minor results in the domestic league and even in the UCL they seem lucky to get to the QF round. But I'm quite curious about Lukaku, he scored a hat trick while playing for Belgium in the previous Euro qualifier, is it possible that Lukaku will start to sharpen again in front of the opponent's goal? including against Benfica later, can he carry Inter to win the match. We have to wait for Lukaku's performance, which is currently starting to rise again and being a striker is a task that he has to do fully to bring Inter to victory.

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You're right, the Manchester City vs Bayern Munich match is a match that's very difficult to predict, because apart from the UCL, the two teams are still on their way to getting the domestic league title. But if I have to choose 1 team between Manchester City or Bayern Munich, I prefer Bayern Munich. This is very reasonable, because Bayern Munich from season to season shows their consistency in the UCL. But Manchester City is also not bad, they have very good squad depth, so I think their percentage of going to the semi-final is 40% (IMO).

The game between Manchester City and Bayern Munich is going to be very a difficult game, is even going to be more difficult for Manchester City because Bayern Munich have changed there coach, Bayern Munich are going to make life really difficult for Manchester City because the coach they signed has played in the English premier League before and he has a very good record against Manchester City, but I still believe Manchester City will make it through to the next round, so is a win win for the Manchester City side.

Bayern Munich Board trust Tuchel to see Bayern progress in the UCL. He knows better than anyone else how to tactically overpower Guardiola... And Bayern Munich's board may have had that and the upcoming semifinals in mind and in perspective when they decided to hand the key of the house to him. I also know that Bayern with or without Tuchel, can still body Manchester City, like Zidane when he was in Madrid, Thomas doesn't need to do much for a few years, the system in Bayern has made them Bundesliga Champions for more than a decade.

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Napoli, Real Madrid, and Manchester City are unlikely teams to win the title. Also, we are neglecting. Benfica has been performing exceptionally well in the Champions League this season. Benfica also won the last match against Club Brugge 5-1. This group should not be neglected either. The way they are performing so far, I wouldn't be surprised to see Benfica in the Champions League final. Benfica will play against Inter Milan in the quarter-finals. Inter Milan's performance is not regular. So Benfica has a chance to win this match. I think the semi-final will be between Napoli vs Benfica.

If Napoli, Real Madrid, and Manchester City are unlikely to win the title, who do you think will? Is it Bayern Munich?
You have a lot of faith in this club Benfica, which is fine because they're doing extremely well right now and the opponent they'll be facing can easily be passed through to the semifinals. But seeing them in the finals is something I'm certain is extremely unlikely. Consider any of the other teams they could face after successfully passing through AC Milan; do you think they'll win and advance to the finals?

Among the 8 teams in the quarter-finals, I think the weakest teams are AC Milan, Inter Milan and Chelsea. I call these three teams weak because their performances are so erratic. They are not performing well in their own league and even in the Champions League, the performance of the teams is not very good. My guess is that Napoli and Benfica will meet in the semi-finals. And it is difficult to predict which of these two teams will make it to the finals. On the other hand, Manchester City and Real Madrid will meet in the semi-finals. However, it is not possible to predict which team will qualify for the finals or become champions.

If I assume that Benfica and Napoli will face each other at the semi final which can happen I think that between these two teams it is only natural for Napoli to come out victorious because of their awesome performance during all the season in Serie A and in Champions League.Benfica had somewhat of a same season but I think the difference in Serie A and Liga Portugal is still notable despite Serie A losing value each year that we pass.For me personally though I predict Inter to be in the semi-finals and I have no prediction of which other team will be here.

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Quote from: Asiska02 on March 29, 2023, 06:05:12 AM

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Napoli, Real Madrid, and Manchester City are unlikely teams to win the title. Also, we are neglecting. Benfica has been performing exceptionally well in the Champions League this season. Benfica also won the last match against Club Brugge 5-1. This group should not be neglected either. The way they are performing so far, I wouldn't be surprised to see Benfica in the Champions League final. Benfica will play against Inter Milan in the quarter-finals. Inter Milan's performance is not regular. So Benfica has a chance to win this match. I think the semi-final will be between Napoli vs Benfica.

If Napoli, Real Madrid, and Manchester City are unlikely to win the title, who do you think will? Is it Bayern Munich?
You have a lot of faith in this club Benfica, which is fine because they're doing extremely well right now and the opponent they'll be facing can easily be passed through to the semifinals. But seeing them in the finals is something I'm certain is extremely unlikely. Consider any of the other teams they could face after successfully passing through AC Milan; do you think they'll win and advance to the finals?

Among the 8 teams in the quarter-finals, I think the weakest teams are AC Milan, Inter Milan and Chelsea. I call these three teams weak because their performances are so erratic. They are not performing well in their own league and even in the Champions League, the performance of the teams is not very good. My guess is that Napoli and Benfica will meet in the semi-finals. And it is difficult to predict which of these two teams will make it to the finals. On the other hand, Manchester City and Real Madrid will meet in the semi-finals. However, it is not possible to predict which team will qualify for the finals or become champions.

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Quote from: Zlantann on March 29, 2023, 01:54:37 PM

Bayern Munich is not the club it used to be in terms of dominance of the German league. Thomas Tuchel is not a magician, hence I am not expecting him to get an instant result in Bayern Munich. Manchester City has the advantage in this match because it will take sometime for the new coach to stabilize the team.

You can at least provide a reliable data to prove it. Bayern is still dominating the league and it's been a decade bayern was dominating bundesliga.

what are you talking about? bayern is still a few steps away to get bundesliga again. The gap to the dormnud was only 1 point.

Tuchel has some matches to adapt to the situation in the club, bayern can use the match against dortmund tomorrow and then freiburg in DFB pokal as a way to train the team. Tuchel has been thinking so hard about how to make bayern becomes even better since he was coming to the club.

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I expect the Bayern team to improve with time because Tuchel needs understand the team. The match between these two teams is unpredictable City might win the first leg but the second leg will be the real battle. Thia match will be a real thriller and a must watch.

It needs the time and bayern has three matches to do that before it will be facing chelsea. That's enough for tuchel to adapt to the club but the match against dortmund is very important.

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Quote from: Bobrox on March 30, 2023, 12:41:28 AM

From all quarter final UEFA Champion League participants only Chelsea drop from top fourth standing position in domestic league, Real Madrid, Manchester City, Bayern Munich and FC Porto on 2nd position each domestic league. For Napoli and Benfica success manage top standing position in their domestic league and left Chelsea have dropped to 10th standing in Primer League.

Seems terrible with their performance between Champion League and Primer League because success qualify to quarter final but have poor performance in domestic league. I don't sure about Chelsea's lucky keep going on at the quarter final round because against Real Madrid are experienced team in Champion League is not easy and have quit well performance in La Liga.

Yes, if you look at his performance in the domestic league, Chelsea seems to be having trouble in the quarter-finals. Real Madrid are the favorites in this tournament and they are quite experienced. Even though these two teams have met each other and produced fairly balanced average results, this season the performances of these two teams are in stark contrast. The Blues this season are in a transitional phase, many things have changed compared to Chelsea's previous face. The presence of a new owner and a new coach made the team's condition fluctuate, which is why they are still struggling in the Premier League to this day.

Meanwhile, Real Madrid, even though they started to slump in La Liga, in the Champions League they showed a different appearance. The current condition of the El Real team has not changed much, 90% of which are still adorned with old faces. With a wealth of experience and also being the defending champion, I'm sure Madrid will easily beat Chelsea, but with a record that the condition of the Madrid players are all in excellent condition.

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From all quarter final UEFA Champion League participants only Chelsea drop from top fourth standing position in domestic league, Real Madrid, Manchester City, Bayern Munich and FC Porto on 2nd position each domestic league. For Napoli and Benfica success manage top standing position in their domestic league and left Chelsea have dropped to 10th standing in Primer League.

Seems terrible with their performance between Champion League and Primer League because success qualify to quarter final but have poor performance in domestic league. I don't sure about Chelsea's lucky keep going on at the quarter final round because against Real Madrid are experienced team in Champion League is not easy and have quit well performance in La Liga.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on March 29, 2023, 02:52:53 PM

The only team in the Champions League I was not expected to see at this stage is Chelsea because they had a bad performance in the previous weeks and I was expecting to see Dortmund at this stage instead of them but regarding the other teams, I guess we can see Manchester City and Napoli at the final match because they both are doing very well, especially Napoli because they have enough time to get recovery from the Serie A games and get themselves ready for champions league games.

If you were ever watched how chelsea was winning its UCL trophies before and i think you will be very familar with this scenario. Chelsea is always facing so many difficulties in the domestic league before it will able to win UCL trophies. I would not be surprised to see that if chelsea will able to win UCL again this year. This club is full of surprises but the problem is that Chelsea is always facing real madrid over and over again in UCl. This makes chelsea's way to getting another trophy to become even harder than before.

I was not even expecting chelsea will meet real madrid again. Chelsea has been always facing real madrid since ucl 2020/2021. Three times chelsea face real madrid in UCL. The rivalry between madrid vs chelsea is real.

I were surprised to see how chelsea can get real madrid as an opponent. If chelsea would get italian club as its opponent and that may be making the club a big easy to go to the semi final.

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Quote from: wmaurik on March 29, 2023, 03:23:28 PM

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The only team in the Champions League I was not expected to see at this stage is Chelsea because they had a bad performance in the previous weeks and I was expecting to see Dortmund at this stage instead of them but regarding the other teams, I guess we can see Manchester City and Napoli at the final match because they both are doing very well, especially Napoli because they have enough time to get recovery from the Serie A games and get themselves ready for champions league games.

Of course it would be very interesting if Napoli could be in the Champions League final this season against Manchester City (and even if Manchester City could beat Bayern Munich and also Real Madrid) because I'm also not sure that Chelsea can hold Real Madrid from advancing to the next round because Chelsea's performance this season is not very good and also not on par with other teams who are still in the Champions League now.

Before this season i always be underestimate Napoli to win champion league because just like i said before Napoli is always be underdog status because in the last several season they even cannot able reach to quarterfinal before and indeed Napoli highest achievement is came this season that they were always be performing well in every competitions and one thing for sure their journey until quarterfinal were very easy compared to other teams because since group stage until quarterfinal Napoli always be gets the weaker opponents than him

And if i am not mistaken the winner between Napoli vs Milan will be faced the winner Inter vs Benfica and if scheme is true then probably Napoli chances to advance to the final match is quite high because they can be avoiding strong teams such as Bayern or Real Madrid on semifinal match and this time probably they will fight for the title in the final match and they have good possibilities to get their first trophy in this competition

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on March 29, 2023, 06:12:56 PM

Chelsea is the least club in performance among this other clubs, I'm still surprised how Chelsea managed to be able to remain in Champions league even with their bad performance.

Chelsea won over Dortmund even they got bad result in the first leg. It has two reason, they played better in a second leg at Stamford Bridge and Dortmund did not play well enough to secure their advantage from the first leg.

However going through quarter finals, every club have their chance to go to semi finals and even take the trophy in this season. Chelsea will have to recall about what they got in the past season in two matches with Real Madrid. Especially the second matches in Bernabeu when they even led 3- 0 before letting Real Madrid to come back.

Quote from: Velvet78 on March 29, 2023, 06:10:56 PM

Napoli shouldn't have big problems about moving Milan out of their way in this round. There is a big difference between them already. Osimhen and Kvaratskhelia should be able to make difference as always. After that I would expect Napoli to have a matchup against Inter. And they can get past Inter as well and make it to the final round later on.

Napoli will have to be so careful with AC Milan even they are stronger and have better form, carefulness has its value and importance for Napoli in knock-out matches. AC Milan with their history knows that in Champions League, a stronger club are not always winner. I believe AC Milan will have appropriate tactics like Catenaccio to reduce space for Napoli and dangerous attacks from Napoli. After that they can wait for chances from counter attacks that can make them as winner.

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The only team in the Champions League I was not expected to see at this stage is Chelsea because they had a bad performance in the previous weeks and I was expecting to see Dortmund at this stage instead of them but regarding the other teams, I guess we can see Manchester City and Napoli at the final match because they both are doing very well, especially Napoli because they have enough time to get recovery from the Serie A games and get themselves ready for champions league games.

Of course it would be very interesting if Napoli could be in the Champions League final this season against Manchester City (and even if Manchester City could beat Bayern Munich and also Real Madrid) because I'm also not sure that Chelsea can hold Real Madrid from advancing to the next round because Chelsea's performance this season is not very good and also not on par with other teams who are still in the Champions League now.

Chelsea is the least club in performance among this other clubs, I'm still surprised how Chelsea managed to be able to remain in Champions league even with their bad performance. Napoli performance in the Champions league is what I enjoy much I never expected Napoli to be among the best team in the Champions league. It will be nice to see Napoli in the finals, if Napoli reach finals they might win the the champions league. Napoli has become my favourite team in Champions league.

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Napoli shouldn't have big problems about moving Milan out of their way in this round. There is a big difference between them already. Osimhen and Kvaratskhelia should be able to make difference as always. After that I would expect Napoli to have a matchup against Inter. And they can get past Inter as well and make it to the final round later on.

Whatever team they face in that round I'm feeling confident that it would be a really competitive game. Because Napoli are also very strong this season. They would do their best to make a big surprise.

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Quote from: wmaurik on March 29, 2023, 03:23:28 PM

Of course it would be very interesting if Napoli could be in the Champions League final this season against Manchester City (and even if Manchester City could beat Bayern Munich and also Real Madrid) because I'm also not sure that Chelsea can hold Real Madrid from advancing to the next round because Chelsea's performance this season is not very good and also not on par with other teams who are still in the Champions League now.

it is likely that it will happen if Napoli can easily beat their opponents in the quarter-finals. I'm more interested in seeing this final between Napoli vs Benfica where these two teams are the big concern this season. Real madrid vs chelsea will most likely be difficult to guess who will win because I am a little pessimistic about Real Madrid this season.

Manchester city has a formidable opponent in the quarter-finals where Bayern Munich is the opponent. Bayern, which has recently been in the public spotlight for sacking Nagelsmaan and showing Tuchel as the new coach, of course Bayern Munich game will be difficult to predict from what they showed in the previous game because there has been a change of coach.

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Of course it would be very interesting if Napoli could be in the Champions League final this season against Manchester City (and even if Manchester City could beat Bayern Munich and also Real Madrid) because I'm also not sure that Chelsea can hold Real Madrid from advancing to the next round because Chelsea's performance this season is not very good and also not on par with other teams who are still in the Champions League now.

If Napoli can win the game in the quarter finals, they will meet either Inter or Benfica. If Inter wins, then the semifinals, Napoli will meet with a Serie-A team again, which is more likely they are able to win against Inter. If this result is correct, then Napoli have a bigger opportunity to reach the Finals when referring to their achievements in Serie A. But, against Benfica, I think it's still waiting for the results of the 1st leg. because benfica also has good performance in the domestic league, so it's quite difficult for me to say that Napoli will beat them.

Napoli's actual condition at the moment in terms of opportunities for their final is quite large with their current position. Against Milan I think everyone pretty much agrees they are the favorites in this game.
On the other hand, for Benfica and Inter, I'm still not too sure who will win, but one thing is certain, if Napoli wins against Milan, whether it's against Inter or Benfica, their chances will still not change for this season's final.

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Quote from: rendravolt on March 29, 2023, 01:51:22 AM

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For example, if later in the first leg Inter lose, surely they will learn how to overcome Benfica in the second leg with a better strategy to outperform the aggregate results at home later. But indeed Benfica is an opponent who is quite defeated for Inter at this time, considering that Inter's performance is still below Benfica in the domestic league or UCL. But for sure if there is any miracle I think it will only come to inter and for benfica I am very sure they will get rid of inter in the QF stage.

Yes, the problem is in Inter's own performance which is still very inconsistent. Sometimes they are able to play very well, effectively, efficiently, and also accurately. So they are still able to provide very satisfying and surprising results. However, it is not uncommon for their appearance to disappoint because of the many wasted opportunities. Here, if Inter have its own challenges, at least to manage its own performance, each player. Meanwhile, Benfica has been playing more consistently

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on March 29, 2023, 03:47:35 PM

There is a hard way for any team to be in the final match because there are many strong and sharp teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid and Bayern Munich for any teams to face directly or indirectly before reaching the final match, I guess if Napoli reaches the final game and even if they don't win the game they still achieved a lot because as far as I they couldn't reach this stage before.

yeah but it seems like that napoli will able to make it. I meant let's say about the fact that if napoli is the strongest team in that group. Even though if napoli will be winning against ac milana nd it will be facing intermilan or benfica which can be considered as a bit easy compared with the teams in another side where must have faced real madrid or bayern. The chance for napoli to go to the final is big at this moment. The only problem is benfica is as good as napoli at this moment caused by it was always winning the domestic leaguie and it keeps dominating it rigt now.

The way for napoli to be qualified becomes even easy compared with another team like chelsea, madrid, city and bayern. These clubs must have fight until the end.

The result from the draw was making me feeling susprised to see that.

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