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Quote from: shinratensei_ on March 21, 2023, 07:12:55 PM

The draw was random. Im also feeling disappointed to see that happened with ac milan too. If may be so good if all of italian clubs will be facing non italian clubs but it's not happening right now. What we can do just try to accept the truth about that.

Napoli is not equal to ac milan. Ac milan is far below napoli at this moment. The result can be known easily to us. Ac milan was also losing against weak teams in a row on serie a. that was making me even more distrust ac milan to win the game against napoli.
Seeing how bad inzaghi was managing the club makes me feel doubt if ac milan can make it to pass napoli.

Of course I accept the results of the UCL draw, it's only limited to my wish that the teams from Italy don't meet before the semifinals. To be honest, I didn't expect much from Milan achievements in the UCL this season, but being in the quarter-finals has been very satisfying for me, because Milan current players are different from the level when AC Milan was a strong team in the UCL under Ancelotti.

I don't understand what you mean about Inzaghi, can you explain more? or, Did you mean Simone Inzaghi (Inter Milan)?

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Quote from: Iroh on March 22, 2023, 10:27:49 AM

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I hope that ancellotti will did some evaluation. The problem is now real madrid defenders are lazy as fuck. It can be seen from some chances that already gotten by barcelona in the last game of elclassico.

I don’t think Real Madrid defenders are the cause of the problem. I think the coach has a fault in this. I think Carvajal should have less playing time. Going down to their central defenders like Rudiger and Militao are doing a good job in the absence of David Alaba. Also, I think Nacho is a bit slow and isn’t really going forward and attacking more.

Can't we use the last game against barcelona as an evaluation of madrid's defenders? Modrid needs to be replaced next season. It would be so good if real madrid will able to get a new player that was very active in helping the club to defend.

Seeing modric was doing nothing while its team mates tried so hard to defend from barcelona's attack makes me feel so bad. Cebalos was not doing so well in the last match. I think that the elclassico will become a big evaluation for madrid.

The next game gonna be another hard game in UCL caused by it will be facing chelsea yet chelsea was in underperform now. I can't even sure if chelsea will give a tough game for madrid.

Quote from: Iroh on March 22, 2023, 10:27:49 AM

In terms of midfielders, Luka Modric and Toni Kroos are almost worn out players. Players doing the real job are Camavinga and Valverde as they’ve been instrumental in linking the defense to the attack.

Agreed. Kroos will retire soon while modric is old enough.

Quote from: Iroh on March 22, 2023, 10:27:49 AM

During the game against Liverpool, Toni Kroos should have supported Vini Jnr to attack from the left side and couldn’t.
I do think Madrid should change their coach who would be willing to bring in new players.

There must be also criticism for perez caused by he was so stingy.

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I don't think anyone has any doubts that Napoli will eliminate Milan. Besides the fact that Napoli has a better squad than Milan, they are more in shape side with high morale. They want to win everything this season. Milan players' this season performances have been hugely disappointing, except Giroud, Leao and Tonali. On the other hand Napoli have talented young star players who are on the transfer list of every major team. Milan's history may be bigger, but their current situation matters most. Napoli will pass quarter final like a walk in the park.

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I don't think Napoli will beat AC Milan in this round because, AC Milan players will not allow Napoli players to have that chance they had in the Italian league game to scored those goals that gave them victory in this game. If what all those 3 teams are performing in the Italian league competition can perform it in the UEFA champions league quarterfinal, I guess AC Milan and Inter will meet for final because the two coach will like to use all their strength and energy to beat their opponent to qualify for final.

Here all things going into favor of Napoli as they are currently leaders in Serie A with healthy lead and no chance for any team to challenge them with this now Napoli quarter-final is also bonus just because of their performance in this season and AC Milan which is defending champions in Serie A with having good performance in early rounds of this season but now are on back foot with their performance; now they are at fourth in league table.

For me it is still very vague if AC Milan and Inter meet in the UCL final.

Napoli is still a Serie A challenger and any team is still very difficult to surpass, even if they meet in the Champions League, I think this is still an advantage for Napoli too because their opponents are still the same as Serie A teams and it is still very far if Milan can beat Napoli from my assumptions.

Quote from: TheGreatPython on March 22, 2023, 11:12:48 AM

These two teams are going to play against each other three times in April with 2nd April Serie A game at Naples, and then we have second game at San Siro Milan on 13th April thing looking easy for the Napoli but as we all now Champions League is completely unpredictable game with any upset can happen in any match against any team, so these matches are going to be not easy for the both teams with still most chances Napoli is going to win them because of their consistency and quality in this season and most chances having good chance for the final spot.

Yeah before the UCL match starts they will meet in Serie A first even though each other will understand the game and strategy but I think Napoli will have the advantage in a game where they are still consistent in Serie A and UCL.

I don't think Milan can qualify to beat him in UCL and here I only believe Napoli is a strong challenger for UCL and Milan is still in my doubts.

Napoli is in better form but Milan is a big name in UCL and that can matter in quarterfinals. As far as player names go they are close. Now when you have all this in mind we will see what will prevail, but I agree form is more important in general but in those important matches we will see.

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Quote from: KTChampions on March 22, 2023, 11:36:00 AM

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What do you mean by this?

I see they have played so far 27 games, 11 more to go. So when were they crowned champions? Or you are one of those folks from the future? Hahaha
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Do you doubt that Napoli became the champion? In order to "officially" complete the title, they need to score only 14 points in the remaining 11 games. And this is provided that Lazio will not lose points. It seems to me that in about 4 games Napoli will officially become the champion because Lazio will not win every game, and Napoli just need to be no worse than the pursuers (which is easy for them because they are better).

It seems that seeing how the statistics and points that Napoli have and so far the opportunity to win the Serie A trophy is very close. Currently Napoli has collected 19 points and Lazio will still find it difficult. Although Napoli's Champions League schedule, which has to fight Milan, is not difficult. Interestingly, before meeting on April 13, the two will also meet on April 3, so it will be very interesting to show each other's performances as a warm-up game in the Champions League.

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Quote from: redhack on March 22, 2023, 10:46:17 AM

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I think the decline in Real Madrid's performance this season is due to the lack of activity in the transfer market. Currently El Real looks to be running out of energy, in La Liga it is starting to be seen that they are increasingly difficult to compete with Barcelona.

My prediction is that Real Madrid will only reach the semifinals this season. Ancelotti's current squad is not as strong as last season. Older players like Benzema, Modric and Kroos can no longer be completely relied on.

You think Real Madrid can pass Chelsea but will be eliminated in the next round. That's general opinion.
I don't think the problem is transfers. They have a strong enough squad. They're just not the best for now. There are better teams than them. Some things you can't buy with money.

Sometimes winning the Champions League don't have any relationship with performance of the club in their local leagues. We have seen teams that made it to the finals even when they are not in the top four position in their league. Most people predicted that Burussia Dortmund will have a smooth ride over Chelsea because of their poor performance in the league. But it turned out to be Chelsea's game. Real Madrid is not having a splendid season, that is why I am assuming that the game is open to both teams. Chelsea has all it takes to qualify for the semifinals.

Quote from: KTChampions on March 22, 2023, 11:36:00 AM

Do you doubt that Napoli became the champion? In order to "officially" complete the title, they need to score only 14 points in the remaining 11 games. And this is provided that Lazio will not lose points. It seems to me that in about 4 games Napoli will officially become the champion because Lazio will not win every game, and Napoli just need to be no worse than the pursuers (which is easy for them because they are better).

If your analysis is correct, then except Napoli is unlucky, nothing can stop them from getting fourteen points from eleven games. A team that have lost only two games in the Seria A and one game in the Champions League will definitely get the needed points. They are also fortunate not to be affected by many injuries and they also have a good bench.

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Napoli team has already won the Italian League so good a thing they won't been under pressure or suffer much injury crises. The favourite in the Champions League is Napoli and there's nothing stopping them from winning it.

What do you mean by this?

I see they have played so far 27 games, 11 more to go. So when were they crowned champions? Or you are one of those folks from the future? Hahaha
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Do you doubt that Napoli became the champion? In order to "officially" complete the title, they need to score only 14 points in the remaining 11 games. And this is provided that Lazio will not lose points. It seems to me that in about 4 games Napoli will officially become the champion because Lazio will not win every game, and Napoli just need to be no worse than the pursuers (which is easy for them because they are better).

with Napoli's performance, of course, getting the difference in points to lock the title this season is not in doubt. Napoli will still face a team weaker than them, and Napoli can benefit. Napoli doesn't have to think too much about matches against strong teams.
even if Napoli can consistently win or draw for the rest of the game without losing. Napoli's achievement is certainly extraordinary to be a team that won Serie A with only 2 defeats throughout the season.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on March 22, 2023, 11:12:48 AM

Quote from: Zanab247 on March 22, 2023, 08:39:49 AM

I don't think Napoli will beat AC Milan in this round because, AC Milan players will not allow Napoli players to have that chance they had in the Italian league game to scored those goals that gave them victory in this game. If what all those 3 teams are performing in the Italian league competition can perform it in the UEFA champions league quarterfinal, I guess AC Milan and Inter will meet for final because the two coach will like to use all their strength and energy to beat their opponent to qualify for final.

Here all things going into favor of Napoli as they are currently leaders in Serie A with healthy lead and no chance for any team to challenge them with this now Napoli quarter-final is also bonus just because of their performance in this season and AC Milan which is defending champions in Serie A with having good performance in early rounds of this season but now are on back foot with their performance; now they are at fourth in league table.

For me it is still very vague if AC Milan and Inter meet in the UCL final.

Napoli is still a Serie A challenger and any team is still very difficult to surpass, even if they meet in the Champions League, I think this is still an advantage for Napoli too because their opponents are still the same as Serie A teams and it is still very far if Milan can beat Napoli from my assumptions.

Quote from: TheGreatPython on March 22, 2023, 11:12:48 AM

These two teams are going to play against each other three times in April with 2nd April Serie A game at Naples, and then we have second game at San Siro Milan on 13th April thing looking easy for the Napoli but as we all now Champions League is completely unpredictable game with any upset can happen in any match against any team, so these matches are going to be not easy for the both teams with still most chances Napoli is going to win them because of their consistency and quality in this season and most chances having good chance for the final spot.

Yeah before the UCL match starts they will meet in Serie A first even though each other will understand the game and strategy but I think Napoli will have the advantage in a game where they are still consistent in Serie A and UCL.

I don't think Milan can qualify to beat him in UCL and here I only believe Napoli is a strong challenger for UCL and Milan is still in my doubts.

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Quote from: Luzin on March 22, 2023, 11:20:02 AM

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Honestly it seems the aging players in Real Madrid is already affecting the performance of the club Luka Modric is 37, Karim Benzema is 35 and David Kross is 33, Alaba 30 these are established and well experienced players unfortunately age is affecting their output, though Madrid has the likes of Camavinga, Vinicius Jr, Tchouameni as a promising talented youngsters, however I think Chelsea has a youthful squad who will pose a threat to Real Madrid qualification to the semifinals provided that Graham Potter played a good team with a perfect tactical formation.

Real Madrid's current condition is good, but Chelsea's statistics are not in favor of Real Madrid. Chelsea may be a little lucky that their second leg will be played in England. It's hard to guess, but I hope Madrid can win big in the first leg. That will make it easier for them in the second leg. At this time, Potter is also dizzy because of poor results in the EPL. Maybe Potter can be sacked at the end of this season. UCL is one of Potter's hopes to win and entertain the fans.

After all, I think Real Madrid and Chelsea at this moment cannot be compared in terms of performance and quality. Also, although Chelsea can still play in the quarter-finals of the Champions League this time, because Chelsea managed to make a comeback after beating Dortmund. But still, playing against Real Madrid is not promising just about the results of the previous comeback and also, it is not enough just to have young players.

Due to the fact last season when Chelsea still had good performance under Tuchel's coaching, but Chelsea still couldn't knock Real Madrid out of the Champions League. Real Madrid's previous success in getting rid of Liverpool is at least proof that with the squad that Real Madrid has this season it still allows Real Madrid to beat the next Premier League team, and that is Chelsea.

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Quote from: logfiles on March 21, 2023, 07:02:37 PM

Quote from: GiftedMAN on March 21, 2023, 06:42:35 PM

Napoli team has already won the Italian League so good a thing they won't been under pressure or suffer much injury crises. The favourite in the Champions League is Napoli and there's nothing stopping them from winning it.

What do you mean by this?

I see they have played so far 27 games, 11 more to go. So when were they crowned champions? Or you are one of those folks from the future? Hahaha
~

Do you doubt that Napoli became the champion? In order to "officially" complete the title, they need to score only 14 points in the remaining 11 games. And this is provided that Lazio will not lose points. It seems to me that in about 4 games Napoli will officially become the champion because Lazio will not win every game, and Napoli just need to be no worse than the pursuers (which is easy for them because they are better).

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Quote from: Iroh on March 22, 2023, 10:27:49 AM

I don’t think Real Madrid defenders are the cause of the problem. I think the coach has a fault in this. I think Carvajal should have less playing time. Going down to their central defenders like Rudiger and Militao are doing a good job in the absence of David Alaba. Also, I think Nacho is a bit slow and isn’t really going forward and attacking more.

In terms of midfielders, Luka Modric and Toni Kroos are almost worn out players. Players doing the real job are Camavinga and Valverde as they’ve been instrumental in linking the defense to the attack.

During the game against Liverpool, Toni Kroos should have supported Vini Jnr to attack from the left side and couldn’t.
I do think Madrid should change their coach who would be willing to bring in new players.

Rudiger has been instrumental since his arrival and I don’t see him as a problem. As for Dani Carvajal he his just looking tired after playing almost all games this seas and that is what you get when you don’t have any back up. Nacho isn’t an outright wing back so putting blames on him is not fair because he is played outta of position.

Luka Modric and Kroos cannot be replaced at the moment because Touchemani is yet to get back to full fitness and the two older players are the only creative players Madrid has at the moment.

Ancelotti consistent stubbornness to play Valverde at the right flank might have worked out last season but almost every team has figure that pattern out already. Players like Asensio or Rodrigo should be played there often.

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Quote from: gabbie2010 on March 22, 2023, 11:07:54 AM

Honestly it seems the aging players in Real Madrid is already affecting the performance of the club Luka Modric is 37, Karim Benzema is 35 and David Kross is 33, Alaba 30 these are established and well experienced players unfortunately age is affecting their output, though Madrid has the likes of Camavinga, Vinicius Jr, Tchouameni as a promising talented youngsters, however I think Chelsea has a youthful squad who will pose a threat to Real Madrid qualification to the semifinals provided that Graham Potter played a good team with a perfect tactical formation.

Real Madrid's current condition is good, but Chelsea's statistics are not in favor of Real Madrid. Chelsea may be a little lucky that their second leg will be played in England. It's hard to guess, but I hope Madrid can win big in the first leg. That will make it easier for them in the second leg. At this time, Potter is also dizzy because of poor results in the EPL. Maybe Potter can be sacked at the end of this season. UCL is one of Potter's hopes to win and entertain the fans.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on March 22, 2023, 08:39:49 AM

I don't think Napoli will beat AC Milan in this round because, AC Milan players will not allow Napoli players to have that chance they had in the Italian league game to scored those goals that gave them victory in this game. If what all those 3 teams are performing in the Italian league competition can perform it in the UEFA champions league quarterfinal, I guess AC Milan and Inter will meet for final because the two coach will like to use all their strength and energy to beat their opponent to qualify for final.

Here all things going into favor of Napoli as they are currently leaders in Serie A with healthy lead and no chance for any team to challenge them with this now Napoli quarter-final is also bonus just because of their performance in this season and AC Milan which is defending champions in Serie A with having good performance in early rounds of this season but now are on back foot with their performance; now they are at fourth in league table.

These two teams are going to play against each other three times in April with 2nd April Serie A game at Naples, and then we have second game at San Siro Milan on 13th April thing looking easy for the Napoli but as we all now Champions League is completely unpredictable game with any upset can happen in any match against any team, so these matches are going to be not easy for the both teams with still most chances Napoli is going to win them because of their consistency and quality in this season and most chances having good chance for the final spot.

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I think the decline in Real Madrid's performance this season is due to the lack of activity in the transfer market. Currently El Real looks to be running out of energy, in La Liga it is starting to be seen that they are increasingly difficult to compete with Barcelona.

My prediction is that Real Madrid will only reach the semifinals this season. Ancelotti's current squad is not as strong as last season. Older players like Benzema, Modric and Kroos can no longer be completely relied on.

You think Real Madrid can pass Chelsea but will be eliminated in the next round. That's general opinion.
I don't think the problem is transfers. They have a strong enough squad. They're just not the best for now. There are better teams than them. Some things you can't buy with money.

Honestly it seems the aging players in Real Madrid is already affecting the performance of the club Luka Modric is 37, Karim Benzema is 35 and David Kross is 33, Alaba 30 these are established and well experienced players unfortunately age is affecting their output, though Madrid has the likes of Camavinga, Vinicius Jr, Tchouameni as a promising talented youngsters, however I think Chelsea has a youthful squad who will pose a threat to Real Madrid qualification to the semifinals provided that Graham Potter played a good team with a perfect tactical formation.

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Quote from: redhack on March 22, 2023, 10:46:17 AM

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I think the decline in Real Madrid's performance this season is due to the lack of activity in the transfer market. Currently El Real looks to be running out of energy, in La Liga it is starting to be seen that they are increasingly difficult to compete with Barcelona.

My prediction is that Real Madrid will only reach the semifinals this season. Ancelotti's current squad is not as strong as last season. Older players like Benzema, Modric and Kroos can no longer be completely relied on.

You think Real Madrid can pass Chelsea but will be eliminated in the next round. That's general opinion.
I don't think the problem is transfers. They have a strong enough squad. They're just not the best for now. There are better teams than them. Some things you can't buy with money.

Honestly, I think that Real has some other problems, which are of a systemic nature and have existed for several years.
Real neither under Zidane nor under Ancelotti have developed a system of play and rely too much on the individual class of their players and sometimes luck, which can help in one or a few important games like last year but cannot be an effective approach every season.
Last year in the Spanish league, both Barcelona and Atletico were in a big crisis and Real won the title of the Spanish champion relatively easily, and in the Champions League they were lucky in the key matches of the knockout phase and won the Champions League.
However, this season Barcelona is playing great and Real has no chance against them in the Spanish league, and in the Champions League they also played against the ever weaker Liverpool. However, now comes the real challenges for them, Chelsea and then Manchester City. It will be very difficult for Real to repeat last year's success in the Champions League.

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Quote from: uswa56 on March 22, 2023, 10:43:03 AM

I think the decline in Real Madrid's performance this season is due to the lack of activity in the transfer market. Currently El Real looks to be running out of energy, in La Liga it is starting to be seen that they are increasingly difficult to compete with Barcelona.

My prediction is that Real Madrid will only reach the semifinals this season. Ancelotti's current squad is not as strong as last season. Older players like Benzema, Modric and Kroos can no longer be completely relied on.

You think Real Madrid can pass Chelsea but will be eliminated in the next round. That's general opinion.
I don't think the problem is transfers. They have a strong enough squad. They're just not the best for now. There are better teams than them. Some things you can't buy with money.

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Quote from: Iroh on March 22, 2023, 10:27:49 AM

Quote from: X-ray on March 22, 2023, 12:10:43 AM

I hope that ancellotti will did some evaluation. The problem is now real madrid defenders are lazy as fuck. It can be seen from some chances that already gotten by barcelona in the last game of elclassico.

I don’t think Real Madrid defenders are the cause of the problem. I think the coach has a fault in this. I think Carvajal should have less playing time. Going down to their central defenders like Rudiger and Militao are doing a good job in the absence of David Alaba. Also, I think Nacho is a bit slow and isn’t really going forward and attacking more.

In terms of midfielders, Luka Modric and Toni Kroos are almost worn out players. Players doing the real job are Camavinga and Valverde as they’ve been instrumental in linking the defense to the attack.

During the game against Liverpool, Toni Kroos should have supported Vini Jnr to attack from the left side and couldn’t.
I do think Madrid should change their coach who would be willing to bring in new players.

I think the decline in Real Madrid's performance this season is due to the lack of activity in the transfer market. Currently El Real looks to be running out of energy, in La Liga it is starting to be seen that they are increasingly difficult to compete with Barcelona.

My prediction is that Real Madrid will only reach the semifinals this season. Ancelotti's current squad is not as strong as last season. Older players like Benzema, Modric and Kroos can no longer be completely relied on.

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Quote from: X-ray on March 22, 2023, 12:10:43 AM

I hope that ancellotti will did some evaluation. The problem is now real madrid defenders are lazy as fuck. It can be seen from some chances that already gotten by barcelona in the last game of elclassico.

I don’t think Real Madrid defenders are the cause of the problem. I think the coach has a fault in this. I think Carvajal should have less playing time. Going down to their central defenders like Rudiger and Militao are doing a good job in the absence of David Alaba. Also, I think Nacho is a bit slow and isn’t really going forward and attacking more.

In terms of midfielders, Luka Modric and Toni Kroos are almost worn out players. Players doing the real job are Camavinga and Valverde as they’ve been instrumental in linking the defense to the attack.

During the game against Liverpool, Toni Kroos should have supported Vini Jnr to attack from the left side and couldn’t.
I do think Madrid should change their coach who would be willing to bring in new players.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on March 22, 2023, 08:39:49 AM

I don't think Napoli will beat AC Milan in this round because, AC Milan players will not allow Napoli players to have that chance they had in the Italian league game to scored those goals that gave them victory in this game. If what all those 3 teams are performing in the Italian league competition can perform it in the UEFA champions league quarterfinal, I guess AC Milan and Inter will meet for final because the two coach will like to use all their strength and energy to beat their opponent to qualify for final.

I suggest you to take a look at the previous meetings between napoli vs ac milan. You might know what's gonna be the answer for that. Napoli has been dominating almost all of matches against ac milan this season. Napoli is very strong at this moment and ac milan can do nothing in the previous matches.
did you watch the last game between milan against udinese? Ac milan was always losing against napoli and i think that the bad result against some week teams in serie a was also decreasing the chance that owned by milan to beat napoli at this moment.

Napoli is still leading the competitiong even though if it must be facing busy schedules. It's likely napoli may not need to use all of its strength against ac milan.
UCL match become very important match for both at this moment caused by this is the best league in europe.

Napoli's odd quite goods compared with ac milan at this moment which has become unfavorite club in this match.

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Yes, I also have the same thoughts about the Serie A team in the quarter -final Champions League. From the 3 teams that succeeded in representing Serie A now, only Napoli have a very good and consistent appearance, so if I have to choose then I will make Napoli more favorite than the other two teams, namely Inter Milan and AC Milan.

If you look at the appearance and performance that Napoli has shown in the Champions League and also its own domestic league, of course Napoli has a big chance to reach the Champions League final this season, but I don't know any other team that will go to the final. Because Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich look equally strong here in the Champions League, it makes it difficult for me to predict which of the three of them will qualify for the Champions League final this season.

That is the surprising part of the Champions League this season. The underdogs play very strong in their domestic leagues (Napoli and Benfica) and the big favorites are all not ranked first in their leagues and also have some struggle once in a while. This is the chance for some new team to finally become the Champions League winner this year. Usually you wouldn't say that Napoli or even Benfica have a chance to win it, but this is year it is a different situation. More and more I lean towards Napoli being the real favorite here. Usually I would have said Manchester City, but Napoli is working like a perfect engine. They are probably the opponent who is most uncomfortable for any team to play against. You just know their results and even though they don't have the biggest name in the soccer world, every other team now knows that they are extremely hard to beat.

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