UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season - page 483.

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Milan vs Tottenham was a balanced game. We know that both teams have been out of form and doing badly lately. Nevertheless, both teams played here in search of a win to forget these bad results. Since Milan were the hosts, they had the advantage and that's what happened. Milan won the match with a single goal.

I had higher expectations from Tottenham. I would say they played very badly. AC Milan's defense is weak now. They are not in good form. Milan conceded 5 and 4 goals against Sassuolo and Lazio respectively. In such a situation, if Tottenham had played an attacking strategy in this match, they would have been able to break Milan's defense. But Tottenham did not play an attacking strategy in this match. They have very few attacks. And as a result, they were defeated. I would say poor match strategy was the main reason for Tottenham's defeat.

Even though neither team is at its best, it might be safe to say that Tottenham, despite losing to Leicester in their most recent match, was able to handle Man City. However, Milan was the host of this match, and they were aware of its significance in comparison to their Serie matches. Even though the defense of AC Milan is susceptible, Tottenham just allowed four goals in their most recent matchup with Leicester too. Hugo Lloris could have changed things. The injury of Lloris suffered costs Tottenham too.

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Quote from: execijutiere on February 15, 2023, 04:47:14 AM

Milan vs Tottenham was a balanced game. We know that both teams have been out of form and doing badly lately. Nevertheless, both teams played here in search of a win to forget these bad results. Since Milan were the hosts, they had the advantage and that's what happened. Milan won the match with a single goal.

I had higher expectations from Tottenham. I would say they played very badly. AC Milan's defense is weak now. They are not in good form. Milan conceded 5 and 4 goals against Sassuolo and Lazio respectively. In such a situation, if Tottenham had played an attacking strategy in this match, they would have been able to break Milan's defense. But Tottenham did not play an attacking strategy in this match. They have very few attacks. And as a result, they were defeated. I would say poor match strategy was the main reason for Tottenham's defeat.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on February 15, 2023, 04:14:40 AM

Meanwhile, PSG started to find their rhythm in the second half after Mbappe came on to replace C.Soler. Too bad Mbappe's two goals had to be ruled out for offside and VAR. Next, like it or not Galtier must play his full strength in the second leg and prepare his team to overthrow Bayern later.

The second leg must be a set price for PSG even though it is playing at home to Bayern Munich, IMO PSG is able to press even more aggressively. I know Mbappe may not be fully fit because he entered in the second half so he didn't show his full game at half time and the important thing is that 1 goal behind is not big enough as it should be even though we know Bayern munich will always be strong in every match.

Galtier as a coach must be able to find good gaps to redeem Bayern Munich's defense later, with good enough attack power he should be able to create goal opportunities, but I hope that in the second leg it will be PSG's comeback.

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That means mbappe was not fully recovered. That's why he got benched. The problem is PSG can do nothing in the first half. So many attacks were coming from bayern. PSG should have won the match but it seems like that PSG must accept the truth if the club must face bayern in allianz arena with the very difficult situation caused by PSG losing in aggregate against bayern. Bayern is now trying to perform the best. what a comeback from bayern.
People who have faith in bayern must got decent money from there. PSG can do nothing with all of its superstars.

Yes, another reason is PSG doesn't have a champion mentally to face Bayern even has a superstar squad. Maybe because of this reason Mbappe want to leave. As we know, it's not fast to build that mental even have alot of money, The club like PSG, Man City and others is have money to buy expensive player and build the superstar squad and maybe able to stand to local league, but it's not work when fight on Champion League where must have mentally like Bayern and Madrid.

Mbappe has been making an ultimatum to the PSG's director if PSG will be losing against bayern and mbappe will be leaving from the club. it's such a shame for a player like mbappe was not able winning UCL while his friend thiago silva after moving to the chelsea was able to take UCL trophy.
Mbappe will be frustated once he will not able to pass bayern.

This is what already stated by mbappe after referee was refusing his goal due to the off side

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“We have to remember the end, we have a disadvantage but we saw that we were able to put them in difficulty, all our players must be in good health and go there to win at home and qualify.

(On his return from injury) It was complicated, unpredictable… I wasn’t supposed to play, I wanted to help my friends, bring energy, we tried everything, we worked day and night and I was able to play a bit … It’s not what I wanted, I always want to play but sometimes you have to be content with what you can do, and today I could only do that.

(On the return match) Above all, we need all our players to be in good health, that everyone eats well, sleeps well, and we have seen that when we are full we are able to play forward, to play attacking football and they were not uncomfortable. My goal refused? It’s the new football, there’s VAR… If there’s an offside, don’t worry, you have to switch quickly. We have to keep the positive and go there to qualify because with what I have seen, there is room.

source: https://newsinfrance.com/kylian-mbappe-after-the-defeat-of-psg-against-bayern-in-the-champions-league-there-is-room/

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Even though Messi plays at PSG but as far as I remember, Messi still hasn't been able to beat Bayern Munich in the Champions League event, at least these bad results have continued since Messi was still playing at Barcelona. Indeed, this case is not just about one player and I am aware of that, but in this case I think even though PSG are playing at home and the reality is PSG still can't play more aggressively.

Because after all, in the first half PSG really didn't have an attempted attack or pressure on the Bayern Munich defense, whereas in this match PSG played at home. Supposedly, because PSG are playing at home PSG should be able to play more attacking from the first half, but PSG played so cautious that they didn't have many attempts to make goal attempts and that's a shame.

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Milan vs Tottenham was a balanced game. We know that both teams have been out of form and doing badly lately. Nevertheless, both teams played here in search of a win to forget these bad results. Since Milan were the hosts, they had the advantage and that's what happened. Milan won the match with a single goal.
In the PSG-Munich match, I think Bayern Munich played overwhelmingly. PSG didn't even exist in the first half. PSG recovered a bit in the second half but couldn't find a goal and had to be defeated.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on February 15, 2023, 03:21:49 AM

The poor performance of PSG in their past games in Ligue 1 has contributed to their home defeat to Bayern Munich side, It really a thing of shame that the essence of bringing Neymar, Messi and Mbappe together in the team which is helping the club to lift the champions league trophy is becoming a total failure.
Bayern Munich had a great performance last night in France, going over there to grab that 3 points has already given them more advantage over their opponent to be able to advance to the next stage.

The thing with having Messi, Neymar and Mbappe playing together in one team at the same time is obviously great because those three players are always able to create great chances to score even out of completely nowhere. Yesterday was another proof for that because even though Paris was the weaker team yesterday it still felt like they are able to score a goal at almost anytime.
That being said, it is also a disadvantage if you are playing with Mbappe, Neymar and Messi because they are doign literally nothign to support the defense of their team and that is a huge factor in today's football. Other teams are defending with 10 players while PSG is only defending with 7. That is also a reason why PSG has not won the CL so far in my opinion.

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Quote from: Fara Chan on February 15, 2023, 04:01:19 AM

Even though Bayern Munich doesn't look very good in the Bundesliga, they can prove it in the Champions and can beat PSG at PSG's home ground, even though the score isn't too big but I'm sure they will win, and through the game that is over, Bayern Munich won the match by taking advantage of the performance PSG which is not ideal at the moment, I think PSG will change in the next meeting away from home, but it is difficult for him, Bayern Munich Also prepare as best as possible in the next game.

In the Champions League, every team that is in it will always show a slightly different performance from what is usually shown in their respective domestic leagues, and I am not surprised when I see Bayern Munich being able to win at home to PSG in the last 16 of the Champions League, even though before the match started I had believed that PSG could win, but in reality it was not. So, also for the match at home to Bayern Munich, it will also be very difficult to predict who will win because these two teams both have extraordinary abilities in scoring goals.

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I think PSG should take advantage of the moment in the second leg because they certainly want to advance to the next round, Munich is a club that is difficult to beat in the Champions League, even though I lost my bet for PSG last night at least I'm satisfied to see PSG play well, it's just unlucky to score a goal against Munich goal

PSG has suffered a series of three defeats in all competitions, and one of them was in last night's game against Bayern. IMO, this time Galtier implemented a 4-4-2 formation with a counterattack scenario. unfortunately, the PSG players do not support the system that Galter implements. and yes, there were many blunders made by PSG defenders in the first half, plus Hakimi's poor performance. there was an imbalance in the first half, in fact PSG almost didn't have a chance in the first half. on the contrary, Bayern played very aggressively. Nagelsmann's squad has a lot of chances.

Meanwhile, PSG started to find their rhythm in the second half after Mbappe came on to replace C.Soler. Too bad Mbappe's two goals had to be ruled out for offside and VAR. Next, like it or not Galtier must play his full strength in the second leg and prepare his team to overthrow Bayern later.

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PSG need to win at home if they want to be in the quarter-finals. If they fail to beat Bayern at home, it will be even more difficult to do so away. This happened in 2021, but it can’t always be like this, it’s a difficult task to beat the Bayern on Allianz Arena, but you shouldn’t count on it. Milan against Tottenham may not be very interesting, I think that Conte will try to draw this match.

I doubt PSG will win this match, even though this is a very important match to win, maybe when PSG's condition drops slightly with our performance we doubt their victory over Bayern Munich, I think Bayern Munich will win the match, and this is the match which is equally important for both Teams, Bayern Munich and PSG I think they have prepared a good strategy in the last 16 match, on the line - Up Mbappe doesn't appear, maybe he will be seen on the bench when he is not fully fit.

For Bayern Munich, the game against PSG is the most awaited even though their performance in the Bundesliga is not very good, but they are motivated to be able to surprise PSG, who are currently not in an ideal formation. A draw can occur if PSG is able to balance the front lines. I know without Mbappe and Messi it makes PSG look dull. The absence of their 2 biggest strengths requires the back line to work harder and avoid fatal mistakes that can open gaps.

Even though Bayern Munich doesn't look very good in the Bundesliga, they can prove it in the Champions and can beat PSG at PSG's home ground, even though the score isn't too big but I'm sure they will win, and through the game that is over, Bayern Munich won the match by taking advantage of the performance PSG which is not ideal at the moment, I think PSG will change in the next meeting away from home, but it is difficult for him, Bayern Munich Also prepare as best as possible in the next game.

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In the second leg later I hope PSG will appear at full strength and hopefully they can catch up on this aggregate, even though it sounds difficult but I'm sure they can.

in the second leg, Munich will play at home. and that will make them even more aggressive. even playing away from Munich was quite aggressive by making 18 shots. different things are shown by PSG. and to perform better in the second leg, PSG must play totally with their best squad.
I bet on the match for a draw. but Munich turned out to be superior. things might have been different if PSG had used their 3 best strikers from the start.

True, if only PSG appeared with their flagship MNM trio, the match would be much more exciting. But unfortunately here PSG did not perform so well, at least 1 point aggregate is not too much so that the opportunity for PSG to reverse the aggregate at home to Bayern Munich is still open later. But this is also not an easy thing for PSG to play at home to Bayern Munich, especially since Munich is superior on aggregate, of course they will try to maintain this advantage or even increase their aggregate number with another win.

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That means mbappe was not fully recovered. That's why he got benched. The problem is PSG can do nothing in the first half. So many attacks were coming from bayern. PSG should have won the match but it seems like that PSG must accept the truth if the club must face bayern in allianz arena with the very difficult situation caused by PSG losing in aggregate against bayern. Bayern is now trying to perform the best. what a comeback from bayern.
People who have faith in bayern must got decent money from there. PSG can do nothing with all of its superstars.

Yes, another reason is PSG doesn't have a champion mentally to face Bayern even has a superstar squad. Maybe because of this reason Mbappe want to leave. As we know, it's not fast to build that mental even have alot of money, The club like PSG, Man City and others is have money to buy expensive player and build the superstar squad and maybe able to stand to local league, but it's not work when fight on Champion League where must have mentally like Bayern and Madrid.

Psg have had bad experiences in the last matches. They got a lot of results that they didn't want and the Bayern Match was very important to fix that. In the first half they certainly seemed to have been wiped out on the field. In the second half, they went very well after the goal. They scored a goal with Mbappe, but the goal was canceled because Mendes was offside before the goal. I can't criticize Psg too much because Bayern is a strong team. They played well in the match, but did not win. They have to win in the rematch.

I think PSG simply played worse than Bayern objectively. Even if Mbappe had scored, the game could have been a draw. But PSG will be much more difficult to play in their next match against Bayern. They need to beat Bayern 2-0 at least. I think Bayern looked much better yesterday. They should win their home game too.

Psg didn't invest enough effort on Bayern yesterday, their game was not as interesting as people expected. Even the cancelled PSG goal looked like a genuine goal, yet, personally, I didn't want a draw because they dulled the impression I had about them before the game began. Having superstar squads like Messi and Neymar, is superb, but utilizing them the right way matters, I don't see why Mbappe didn't play the first half, they were opportunities psg lost during the first half that Mbappe wouldn't have missed if he started the game. The player that replaced Mbappe lacked speed which caused some passes to go back to the Bayern team. I loved the playing charisma bayern played with yesterday and it melted down the energy of PSG players. Hoping to see what happens on their return game. I was wondering if Messi would have scored the goal that led to the red card given to Pavard.

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The poor performance of PSG in their past games in Ligue 1 has contributed to their home defeat to Bayern Munich side, It really a thing of shame that the essence of bringing Neymar, Messi and Mbappe together in the team which is helping the club to lift the champions league trophy is becoming a total failure.

Bayern Munich had a great performance last night in France, going over there to grab that 3 points has already given them more advantage over their opponent to be able to advance to the next stage.

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Quote from: armanda90 on February 15, 2023, 01:42:22 AM

Second leg on on March 9 become opportunity for PSG come back after losing 1-0 and should win above two goals if want qualify to quarter final round. Actually losing one goal still not close yet chance for PSG can exist in Champion League but last looking on their performance very poor seems difficult for PSG qualify to next round.

Mbappe will be ready for a second leg since its start but it will be at Munich, not in Paris. With bad ability of PSG to play with pressure and high demand from their fans to make history for the club, will the succeed to beat Bayern in Munich? At least they must beat Bayern with one goal difference and wait for chance in two extra halfs and penalty shots.

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Unbelievable with AC Milan performance last night although underperformance in domestic league but success won 1-0 against Tottenham Hotspur and becoming their capital against second leg, get draw have been enough for AC Milan settle for quarter final round and become great achievement after bad performance in domestic league.

I did not believe too much in AC Milan but their Champions League DNA has its voice again. Tottenham did create opportunities but they did not score any goal and will have to come home, prepare for a host against AC Milan with similar task like PSG but they will play a second leg match at home. Tottenham had a better performance than PSG and they surely can beat AC Milan at home.

Son Heung Min did not have a good match and I think he already lost his best career time. This season can be a start of his down side after he reached to his career top.

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Psg have had bad experiences in the last matches. They got a lot of results that they didn't want and the Bayern Match was very important to fix that. In the first half they certainly seemed to have been wiped out on the field. In the second half, they went very well after the goal. They scored a goal with Mbappe, but the goal was canceled because Mendes was offside before the goal. I can't criticize Psg too much because Bayern is a strong team. They played well in the match, but did not win. They have to win in the rematch.

my worries about PSG have come true. From this match we can see that Mbappe is really needed by PSG. even in the second half after Mbappe came on we could see PSG getting better. even the attacks launched by PSG can really endanger Bayern's goal. Even Mbappe scored 2 goals. although both goals were disallowed because they were already in an offside position. it is very unfortunate because Mbappe's condition has not fully recovered so that Mbappe only played in the second half.

And I really appreciate the PSG goalkeeper, Donnarumma. he made a lot of saves really well. But anyway this match took place with great excitement.

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Quote from: armanda90 on February 15, 2023, 01:42:22 AM

Second leg on on March 9 become opportunity for PSG come back after losing 1-0 and should win above two goals if want qualify to quarter final round. Actually losing one goal still not close yet chance for PSG can exist in Champion League but last looking on their performance very poor seems difficult for PSG qualify to next round.

I doubt PSG will beat Bayern Munich at home in the second leg because that is how PSG is always eliminated in the Champions League.
PSG always has fan support, but their performance in the Champions League, particularly against big teams, is very poor, and we know how difficult it is to defeat Bayern Munich at home because their fan crowd alone is enough to make the opponent nervous.

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Unbelievable with AC Milan performance last night although underperformance in domestic league but success won 1-0 against Tottenham Hotspur and becoming their capital against second leg, get draw have been enough for AC Milan settle for quarter final round and become great achievement after bad performance in domestic league.

AC Milan was extremely fortunate to score early on yesterday; the early goal greatly aided them, and the defenders were able to withstand the pressure from Tottenham's side; it was a good game, but it is far from over.

Tottenham still has a chance to eliminate AC Milan because they have played well and have a good winning record against AC Milan, particularly at home. As a result, if AC Milan visits Tottenham at home, I believe Tottenham will be able to win by more than two goals.

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Quote from: MinoRaiola on February 15, 2023, 02:52:34 AM

Source: https://twitter.com/DiarioOle/status/1625613678086070296

I understand that the offside rule must be complied with and new technologies allow for greater rigor in the analysis of these situations.

But, I don't think anyone in the world, not even football players, will say that 3 centimeters in advance gives an advantage in a move. The offside rule was created when there was no technology to accurately assess this situation. So the offside had to be clear to human eyes, because that's the only way the player really has an advantage over the opponent.

In this case, the PSG player had no advantage because he was 3cm ahead of the Bayern player.

I think the rules should be adjusted based on the new technologies that exist.

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Quote from: fzkto on February 15, 2023, 02:36:15 AM

I think PSG simply played worse than Bayern objectively. Even if Mbappe had scored, the game could have been a draw. But PSG will be much more difficult to play in their next match against Bayern. They need to beat Bayern 2-0 at least. I think Bayern looked much better yesterday. They should win their home game too.

Mbappe scored two goals, but both were offside. The first goal was clearly offside, but the second was very close. I found a picture, take a look. Earlier (1-2 Years ago) it would been a 1-1 and Paris would not be called losers in the media now. But Mpappe has to play at the beginning, he changes the whole game. Messi and Neymar didn't do that, even Messi shot over the goal shortly before the end. On 08.03. is the next match and I think Bayern will also win, they are simply too strong, even without Lewandoski.

Source: https://twitter.com/DiarioOle/status/1625613678086070296

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That means mbappe was not fully recovered. That's why he got benched. The problem is PSG can do nothing in the first half. So many attacks were coming from bayern. PSG should have won the match but it seems like that PSG must accept the truth if the club must face bayern in allianz arena with the very difficult situation caused by PSG losing in aggregate against bayern. Bayern is now trying to perform the best. what a comeback from bayern.
People who have faith in bayern must got decent money from there. PSG can do nothing with all of its superstars.

Yes, another reason is PSG doesn't have a champion mentally to face Bayern even has a superstar squad. Maybe because of this reason Mbappe want to leave. As we know, it's not fast to build that mental even have alot of money, The club like PSG, Man City and others is have money to buy expensive player and build the superstar squad and maybe able to stand to local league, but it's not work when fight on Champion League where must have mentally like Bayern and Madrid.

Psg have had bad experiences in the last matches. They got a lot of results that they didn't want and the Bayern Match was very important to fix that. In the first half they certainly seemed to have been wiped out on the field. In the second half, they went very well after the goal. They scored a goal with Mbappe, but the goal was canceled because Mendes was offside before the goal. I can't criticize Psg too much because Bayern is a strong team. They played well in the match, but did not win. They have to win in the rematch.

I think PSG simply played worse than Bayern objectively. Even if Mbappe had scored, the game could have been a draw. But PSG will be much more difficult to play in their next match against Bayern. They need to beat Bayern 2-0 at least. I think Bayern looked much better yesterday. They should win their home game too.

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The situation in Leg 2 at the Allianz Arena could be reversed although that seems difficult.

For last night's result, PSG made it clear that their mentality is not in Europe's highest competition but only in the Domestic League. It may take a few more seasons for PSG to be able to form the mentality we discussed.

It should be with the presence of players like Messi, Neymar, Mbappe, Ramos to Donnarumma in the PSG squad can get a victory at home.
Last night's match statistics PSG also lost from ball possession to the number of shoots.
PSG was only able to make 9 shoots, while Bayern Munich managed to record 18.

Even before this match took place, I predicted that Bayern Munich would be superior in terms of mentality even though they were under a lot of pressure from the home fans. And in the gameplay, it is clear that they are having a very difficult time building attacks and developing their game. Bayern Munich, on the other hand, tried to keep pressure on the defense from Paris Saint-Germain, even though it was difficult but in the end they were able to find a way to score a goal. An aggregate of 1 goal is very valuable for Bayern Munich because in the second leg they will play at home and that is something that is profitable for them.

Many people miss predictions like the one you gave for the PSG vs Bayern Munich match. Now everyone is talking about PSG's chances of failing in the UEFA Champion League, but I still feel confident if Messi, Neymar and Mbappe can make things reversed in Leg 2 even though PSG's mentality is doubtful to happen like what I believe.
Winning with a score of 0-1 does open up a great opportunity for Die Bayern to qualify for the next round, but losing Pavard could be a drawback to the depth of the Bayern Munich squad even though Jurgen Nagelsmann still has several worthy replacements.

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