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Quote from: Google+ on February 15, 2023, 08:22:05 AM

Yesterday's match indicated that it would be difficult for a team to compare their quality from the domestic league and the Champions League. because every team that appears in the Champions league will show a better game than their game in the domestic league. That's exactly what ac milan did in the first leg because Ac milan was able to make big changes to their game and weren't afraid to push early on their opponents. The final result of AC Milan came out as the winner in the first leg of the big 16 round..

both teams have bad results, milan and tottenham have difficulties in scoring goals and also concede a lot of goals, that in normal conditions, when i talk about normal conditions i mean when the two teams don't have players injured, it happens that tottenham already doesn't have a good defense, he came into this game without his main goalkeeper and had to use the reserve goalkeeper, I'm talking about Fraser Forster who is very disastrous and not a good goalkeeper, Tottenham's defeat was already predictable, even before the tottenham entered the field they were already doomed to lose, milan despite being bad, at least they are still lucky to score a goal in most games

Borussia Dortmund - Chelsea FC

I bet on Dortmund's victory, looking at Dortmund's performance in the last few games, they are performing well both in defense and in attack, while their opponent Chelsea comes to this game with a lot of inconsistency in the last games, they signed a lot of players , and something even difficult to understand what they want, but in this game I think they will lose

Club Brugge - SL Benfica

I bet on Benfica's victory, Benfica is playing well and comes into this game with a good performance in the last few games, the same cannot be said about Brugge

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Quote from: JooBra on February 15, 2023, 10:44:58 AM

The rematch will be so good to watch since I think there will be a lot of goals. PSG will score for sure with the attack they have and Bayern will have so much space to counter and could use that so well. The chances for PSG to advance are now low but if they manage to do it, they are biggest favourite to win it all.

I don't think so. The match gonna end with only a few goals or even a single goals like previous match. Bayern munchen may make more goals against PSG for the second leg but it's so hard caused by PSG has also known how to counter bayern. I reminds you that what happened with PSG last season when bayern was only winning the second leg with a single goal. This time may a bit different caused by PSG will be losing some players due to the injury as well as bayern munchen that were losing its winger mane and keeper neuer.
PSG may also use defensive strategy against bayern in the next leg. Since bayern was able winning the game against PSG in the first leg and bayern has more than 70% probability to win the second game.

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Quote from: Luzin on February 15, 2023, 08:43:06 AM

I don't have a prediction Bayern Munchen will win and have plenty of chances of continuing to put pressure on the PSG defence. They proved that Bayern Is a strong team because they can play well when in Paris. I don't see Bayern Munich feeling awkward they continue to play like home.
The second matches will be in Germany, I think Bayern Munchen will be better than today. It took PSG hard work and luck to get them through. Because if Munchen don't play under today's game I'm sure they'll qualify as well.

Since Mbappe was doubtful for the first leg against Bayern Munich, since then I have started to believe that PSG will have difficulty winning the match.
But once again, this 0-1 defeat was not a very surprising defeat because basically PSG also managed to create several dangerous opportunities. It's just that they didn't get any goals, that made them lose in the end.

I think it's a natural defeat because Bayern Munich did better and had many chances during the match. PSG's performance is also not too disappointing, but of course it sucks when they fail to avoid defeat like this when the favorites at home.

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Quote from: ajanwalker on February 15, 2023, 10:05:49 AM

In the match played yesterday, I saw PSG as the clear favorite of the match, but PSG disappointed me greatly. Bayern Munich, who played bad football in the Bundesliga, defeated PSG. I think it was a surprising score. It wouldn't be a surprise if Bayern Munich were at home, but the score of the match played in Paris is a surprise. We have seen once again that football is a team game. Even if your team has Neymar, Messi, Mbappe, if you can't be a team, defeat is inevitable. There is a Dortmund game today, I see it as the clear favorite against Chelsea and I added the Dortmund win to my coupon.

I don't see PSG as the favorite team, and even though PSG are playing at home, the odds still show that Bayern Munich are the favorite team. But yes, PSG is disappointing because they don't play like a big team with luxurious quality players, PSG play like they are a mediocre team.
Because if PSG played like a big team then PSG should have been able to play more attacking from the first half, but in reality PSG was just waiting and that was an inappropriate strategy for PSG to implement because PSG has a high quality squad.

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Exciting news for Paris Saint-Germain fans as both Kylian Mbappé and Lionel Messi have reportedly returned to training today ahead of the highly anticipated match against Bayern Munich. While coach Christophe Galtier may choose to keep the lineup under wraps until he has evaluated their performance, there is no denying the crucial role that these two players have in the team's success. I, for one, am eagerly looking forward to a competitive match filled with thrilling gameplay and beautiful goals from both teams, showcasing their full potential

I wonder if this was originally a "hoax" or did they really recover ahead of time? If this is a trick, then it is very stupid, since Bavaria is unlikely to be impressed. Since I support Bayern, I will be glad to see Messi on the field and Mbappe on the bench Grin

It's funny that if the first pair can be called a battle of leaders, then the second is a battle of losers. But I think Milan should win at home.

I don't think it was a fake story because indeed he missed out on some games and didn't start the game against Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich went to Paris fully motivated and determined to get a win against PSG at their weak moment and actually got a win. PSG has to prepare for the second leg encounter and be at their best to be able to beat Bayern Munich against all odds.

The rematch will be so good to watch since I think there will be a lot of goals. PSG will score for sure with the attack they have and Bayern will have so much space to counter and could use that so well. The chances for PSG to advance are now low but if they manage to do it, they are biggest favourite to win it all.

If they manage to win this round match up with Bayern Munich, i still won't count them as favorite because they are still alot of good teams in the competition like Real Madrid and Manchester City. Also the second rematch at Bayern Munich will definitely see an atmosphere full of goals because both teams will definitely come out to try and win. hopefully psg might do something special and defeat this bayern team but i doubt that will be happen as Bayern are also looking to advance to the next round.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on February 13, 2023, 05:12:04 PM

Exciting news for Paris Saint-Germain fans as both Kylian Mbappé and Lionel Messi have reportedly returned to training today ahead of the highly anticipated match against Bayern Munich. While coach Christophe Galtier may choose to keep the lineup under wraps until he has evaluated their performance, there is no denying the crucial role that these two players have in the team's success. I, for one, am eagerly looking forward to a competitive match filled with thrilling gameplay and beautiful goals from both teams, showcasing their full potential

I wonder if this was originally a "hoax" or did they really recover ahead of time? If this is a trick, then it is very stupid, since Bavaria is unlikely to be impressed. Since I support Bayern, I will be glad to see Messi on the field and Mbappe on the bench Grin

It's funny that if the first pair can be called a battle of leaders, then the second is a battle of losers. But I think Milan should win at home.

I don't think it was a fake story because indeed he missed out on some games and didn't start the game against Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich went to Paris fully motivated and determined to get a win against PSG at their weak moment and actually got a win. PSG has to prepare for the second leg encounter and be at their best to be able to beat Bayern Munich against all odds.

The rematch will be so good to watch since I think there will be a lot of goals. PSG will score for sure with the attack they have and Bayern will have so much space to counter and could use that so well. The chances for PSG to advance are now low but if they manage to do it, they are biggest favourite to win it all.

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Quote from: $anounimus$ on February 14, 2023, 11:09:18 PM

The defeat in the 1st leg which occurred at home was certainly a heavy blow for PSG. Linoel Messi's steps to advance to the quarterfinals can be said to be very difficult even though the opportunity is still open.

But Bayern also still has shortcomings that PSG might take advantage of in the second leg later. It was proven that when Mbappe entered, Bayern's defense became very chaotic. It's just that the PSG coach, Galtier, was less observant in reading the situation on the field and was late to include Mbappe. So he has to carry that burden.

If the performance of these three PSG forward is really good, it will be difficult to stop. So far, there has been a lot of news about the lack of harmony between the three forward because they have their own egos, but according to the PSG coach, this is not a problem. If the forward trio really has a good relationship, then they should be able to balance their egos for the benefit of the team.

But I think this is not the only reason why PSG lost, and actually Bayern Munich is really strong defensively when PSG attacks. Bayern Munchen also conceded a goal, but the VAR said it was offside so PSG had to admit defeat. Even though Bayern Munich dominated this match with a number of shots on target, PSG was also good at defending and thwarting the opportunities that existed. Of course there is the second leg, where the two teams will determine their fate regardless of who will qualify for the next round.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 14, 2023, 10:15:27 AM

Quote from: GxSTxV on February 13, 2023, 05:12:04 PM

Exciting news for Paris Saint-Germain fans as both Kylian Mbappé and Lionel Messi have reportedly returned to training today ahead of the highly anticipated match against Bayern Munich. While coach Christophe Galtier may choose to keep the lineup under wraps until he has evaluated their performance, there is no denying the crucial role that these two players have in the team's success. I, for one, am eagerly looking forward to a competitive match filled with thrilling gameplay and beautiful goals from both teams, showcasing their full potential

I wonder if this was originally a "hoax" or did they really recover ahead of time? If this is a trick, then it is very stupid, since Bavaria is unlikely to be impressed. Since I support Bayern, I will be glad to see Messi on the field and Mbappe on the bench Grin

It's funny that if the first pair can be called a battle of leaders, then the second is a battle of losers. But I think Milan should win at home.

I don't think it was a fake story because indeed he missed out on some games and didn't start the game against Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich went to Paris fully motivated and determined to get a win against PSG at their weak moment and actually got a win. PSG has to prepare for the second leg encounter and be at their best to be able to beat Bayern Munich against all odds.

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Barcelona will be meeting Manchester United in a football encouter in the champions league, this game will be a strong one because both teams are currently in good form, both teams are not ready to pave way for each other but I strongly believe that the best of all is going to win, multiple goals should be expected in this match because of the current attacking force of both team.

Manchester United have lost Casemiro which is their best player and they rely on him to control the midfield. They have struggled without him and if he is not fit for the Barcelona game I think Barcelona will find the game easy because they will be able to overload the midfield and control the game. I wonder if the Manchester United takeover talks by Qatar could distract the players to because that will be 1 of the biggest moves in football history.

If Casemiro is available I will be more confident that Manchester United wins the game. Manchester United have the players to beat Barcelona but they do not play fluid without Casemiro. Does any one know the extent of the injury that Casemiro has?

For Goodness Sake, Casemiro hasn't been Injured in anyway, he's been reported training hard with the club and fully fit ready for the game against Barcelona.
For your notice, he is fit ans sound that alone gives Manchester United the upper hand over Barcelona. No it won't, the sale of Manchester United to the Qataris won't affect the player's but then the Coach demands support.

In the last few games, Manchester United has found it difficult to play and operate in midfied without Casemiro. Tommorow I'm sure of what he brings for Manchester United.

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Quote from: Inwestour on February 15, 2023, 10:02:03 AM

I don’t know if Klopp can be considered a top coach now, because it’s difficult to call Liverpool’s results satisfactory, even if they show a good game with Real Madrid, the results in the Premier League are very bad.

Bayern was better, maybe Galtier’s fault in this defeat is also there, but he did everything he could, I didn’t expect anything more from him, although there is still a return match, but this is not the only defeat, before that they lost to Marseille and Monaco, for such a team is too bad results.

Galtier is just a few games away from being fired, if they can't beat Bayern in Münchin then it's all over for him.

As a matter of fact, I don't know why in the world people claim that Klopp is not a top coach even after all of the things we saw from him during his previous teams and previous seasons. Whether or not Jürgen Klopp managed his team well during this season, it doesn't mean that he is no longer considered a top coach. Even if you ask me, I do not consider him a top coach any longer. As a matter of fact, I think Klopp would make a better coach for PSG than Christophe Galtier because of his past and what we have seen from him in the past.

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In the match played yesterday, I saw PSG as the clear favorite of the match, but PSG disappointed me greatly. Bayern Munich, who played bad football in the Bundesliga, defeated PSG. I think it was a surprising score. It wouldn't be a surprise if Bayern Munich were at home, but the score of the match played in Paris is a surprise. We have seen once again that football is a team game. Even if your team has Neymar, Messi, Mbappe, if you can't be a team, defeat is inevitable. There is a Dortmund game today, I see it as the clear favorite against Chelsea and I added the Dortmund win to my coupon.

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Quote from: ShowOff on February 15, 2023, 09:04:04 AM

I also admit that the coach is one of the reasons why PSG are not very convincing when opponents are at the level of Bayern Munich, so if they are the reason why PSG never won the Champions League then they might really have to sign a coach of the class of Guardiola or Klopp. But wait, let's see how the second leg will be. I hope there is something reliable from PSG.

I don’t know if Klopp can be considered a top coach now, because it’s difficult to call Liverpool’s results satisfactory, even if they show a good game with Real Madrid, the results in the Premier League are very bad.

Bayern was better, maybe Galtier’s fault in this defeat is also there, but he did everything he could, I didn’t expect anything more from him, although there is still a return match, but this is not the only defeat, before that they lost to Marseille and Monaco, for such a team is too bad results.

Galtier is just a few games away from being fired, if they can't beat Bayern in Münchin then it's all over for him.

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Today we'll watch two matches again. The first one will be dortmund-chelsea. I expect a decisive win for dortmund in this match. Dortmund are in really good form and they are getting better every game. Their performance is visibly pleasing. Chelsea, on the other hand, are out of form and don't seem to have much purpose in the league. They've been out of the championship race for a long time and I don't know if they'll be able to compete in the European Cup.

Well Chelsea in the EPL and Chelsea in the UCL can be entirely two different teams. We know that Chelsea are not in line and really poor in the EPL, but I have not written them off the Champions League. Since they are not title contenders in the EPL, they will be fully focused on impressing and going far in the champions league. Chelsea has the team and squad quality to do so and even win Dortmund, the difference will be the tactics. The game will be another big test for Graham Potter. If he losses and Chelsea perform poorly, it will be obvious the need for a better coach for the team.

As we said, they no longer have a goal in the league. They are far from the top and the only thing they have left is the champions league. I can say that Graham Potter hasn't done much since he arrived. But he may have been specially trained for this match. We will only find out when the game time comes. Dortmund are no pushovers but I think both teams will play an open game and both sides will make mistakes in defense to score goals.

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Quote from: rendravolt on February 15, 2023, 09:06:34 AM

Even though Dortmund vs Chelsea is a match to look forward to today, I think the other match between Brugge vs Benfica is no less exciting than that match. We know that Brugge and Benfica are not strong candidates to win the UCL this season, but we should appreciate the achievements of these two teams to advance to the round of 16. I think as the hosts for sure Brugge will get a win in the first leg today, even though Benfica is currently in good form in the domestic league. So I think being able to get a win at home is of course very profitable for Brugge and if they can hold Benfica to a draw that will also be enough capital for the second leg later.

Benfica's performance is not only good in the local league, because Benfica's performance in the Champions League is also very good and the proof is that Benfica can become the winner of Group H and Benfica managed to surpass the two big teams in Group H and they are Juventus and PSG. So, at this moment I personally really believe that Benfica will not lose by Club Brugge, because even though these two teams are not candidates for the title, but with the success that Benfica has made, then Benfica deserves to be considered to be able to go further.

Therefore, I personally really believe that Benfica will probably win this match but even though Benfica cannot beat Club Brugge at the Jan Breydel Stadion, I still believe that at least a draw result can happen. Anyway, I personally am very optimistic about Benfica because the good results that Benfica has so far are proof that Benfica is indeed in the best shape at this moment.

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They proved that Bayern Is a strong team because they can play well when in Paris. I don't see Bayern Munich feeling awkward they continue to play like home.
The second matches will be in Germany, I think Bayern Munchen will be better than today. It took PSG hard work and luck to get them through. Because if Munchen don't play under today's game I'm sure they'll qualify as well.

Paris Saint Germain are really unlucky when it comes to the Champions League, they have spent a lot of money on Top player's like Messi and the rest, yet they can't still seems to win it or even get to the finals. Is not going to be easy for Paris Saint Germain to overturn the result when they travel to Bayern Munich home, but i think Paris Saint Germain will qualify for the next round ahead of Bayern Munich.

psg are just not experienced enough for the champions league. just like you said they have spent alot of money in purchasing high quality players but the winning formula hasn't just clicked for them as we can see them also struggling to win games against some of the top teams in the french league 1. I have really expected psg to even atleast score a goal against Bayern Munich, i mean c'mon they are playing at home with their supporters by their side but still yet couldn't find the Bavarian goal net, am really pissed they lost the game but i hope they can put some extra effort in their second leg rematch at the munich stadium.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on February 15, 2023, 09:09:29 AM

Quote from: Luzin on February 15, 2023, 08:43:06 AM

They proved that Bayern Is a strong team because they can play well when in Paris. I don't see Bayern Munich feeling awkward they continue to play like home.
The second matches will be in Germany, I think Bayern Munchen will be better than today. It took PSG hard work and luck to get them through. Because if Munchen don't play under today's game I'm sure they'll qualify as well.

Paris Saint Germain are really unlucky when it comes to the Champions League, they have spent a lot of money on Top player's like Messi and the rest, yet they can't still seems to win it or even get to the finals. Is not going to be easy for Paris Saint Germain to overturn the result when they travel to Bayern Munich home, but i think Paris Saint Germain will qualify for the next round ahead of Bayern Munich.

There journey in this season of the champions league really seems to end here. They've lost there chance of having the home advantage or to decide on how the second leg would be played and its against a much better side or informed Bayer Munich.
Looking at the PSG squad, there is not a thing lacking, they've got all the quality for every wing and was prepared for today's game by resting players over the weekend and lost there league game against Monaco yet, here they were loosing again against Bayern Munich.

It was unfortunate for K. Mbappe yesterday, after all his celebrations and arousing the fans, his goals had to be called off for an offside. Although, Mbappe proved something yet again yesterday, that he is the future of PSG.

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Today we'll watch two matches again. The first one will be dortmund-chelsea. I expect a decisive win for dortmund in this match. Dortmund are in really good form and they are getting better every game. Their performance is visibly pleasing. Chelsea, on the other hand, are out of form and don't seem to have much purpose in the league. They've been out of the championship race for a long time and I don't know if they'll be able to compete in the European Cup.

Well Chelsea in the EPL and Chelsea in the UCL can be entirely two different teams. We know that Chelsea are not in line and really poor in the EPL, but I have not written them off the Champions League. Since they are not title contenders in the EPL, they will be fully focused on impressing and going far in the champions league. Chelsea has the team and squad quality to do so and even win Dortmund, the difference will be the tactics. The game will be another big test for Graham Potter. If he losses and Chelsea perform poorly, it will be obvious the need for a better coach for the team.

This will be different for Chelsea because they will focus on the Champions League as a competition that can convince them to perform well, whereas in the English league it is clear that we have seen a very declining performance, meaning that if now Graham Potter can convince the players to consistently fight Dortmund, there is a possibility that Chelsea can do more well even though they are always considered Chelsea is now weak but not so with the Champions League.

As the away team Chelsea should be able to press more so in the second leg it will be a good moment where they can appear confident, this is just my guess for Chelsea now but for the game let's just wait and see.

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Quote from: Luzin on February 15, 2023, 08:43:06 AM

They proved that Bayern Is a strong team because they can play well when in Paris. I don't see Bayern Munich feeling awkward they continue to play like home.
The second matches will be in Germany, I think Bayern Munchen will be better than today. It took PSG hard work and luck to get them through. Because if Munchen don't play under today's game I'm sure they'll qualify as well.

Paris Saint Germain are really unlucky when it comes to the Champions League, they have spent a lot of money on Top player's like Messi and the rest, yet they can't still seems to win it or even get to the finals. Is not going to be easy for Paris Saint Germain to overturn the result when they travel to Bayern Munich home, but i think Paris Saint Germain will qualify for the next round ahead of Bayern Munich.

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Even though Dortmund vs Chelsea is a match to look forward to today, I think the other match between Brugge vs Benfica is no less exciting than that match. We know that Brugge and Benfica are not strong candidates to win the UCL this season, but we should appreciate the achievements of these two teams to advance to the round of 16. I think as the hosts for sure Brugge will get a win in the first leg today, even though Benfica is currently in good form in the domestic league. So I think being able to get a win at home is of course very profitable for Brugge and if they can hold Benfica to a draw that will also be enough capital for the second leg later.

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Having champion mentality without quality players also doesn't make sense to win the Champions League. Bayern Munich have good players to defend and attack, and their style of play is very different and that determines the course of the game. But this defeat was influenced by many factors in which in the end I have to admit that PSG was just unlucky with goals and a few chances.

Bayern always have good players and they are smart to choose players for their team. After the injury of Neuer, they wisely picked Yann Sommer who is a very good goalkeeper and experienced a lot of tough matches in Euro and World Cup with Switzerland. The match with PSG shows that he is a very good replacement for Neuer in short term and long term as well.

PSG also has good defense and goalkeeper from Gianluigi Donnarumma, but PSG had to fail and were unlucky when they had opportunities. Without Gianluigi Donnarumma and good defense, I think PSG will concede lot of goals because Bayern Munich attacked well and dominated the match. Some people regretted that PSG didn't make the most of their chances, but I can only say that the team did their best throughout the match.

Yann Sommer had great performance in that match and I admit that. He managed to make 4 good saves when PSG had chances, but Gianluigi Donnarumma
made 5 saves so that 1 goal conceded was not the end of everything for PSG. It seems to me that PSG still have hope to win the second leg and qualify for the quarter-finals, but they need to really improve and be well motivated to put in a good performance.

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Even though PSG has expensive players who are also former Champions League winners such as Messi, Neymar and Ramos, basically the PSG squad is not stable enough in their midfielders. The creativity of the midfield is not good enough to support the attacker where quite often the striker has to go down and build an attack from half of his own field.

Both Bayern and PSG have very good players but as a team, PSG players are not able to unite as a whole solid team and in their team, there are holes that affect them a lot in Champions League. I believe one of biggest weaknesses of PSG is their coach position and they must find a coach who is winner in Champions League like Ancelotti and Mourinho. They have many good attacking players so they don't need to have a coach like Pep or Klopp. They must find a coach who can bring balance for their team by improving their defense.

I also admit that the coach is one of the reasons why PSG are not very convincing when opponents are at the level of Bayern Munich, so if they are the reason why PSG never won the Champions League then they might really have to sign a coach of the class of Guardiola or Klopp. But wait, let's see how the second leg will be. I hope there is something reliable from PSG.

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