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Quote from: rahmad2nd on February 04, 2023, 07:30:00 AM

I think Messi is well aware that he cannot perform extraordinary at his current age. in the first season, Messi had a little difficulty adapting. in the second season, messi played more as a playmaker to serve his two colleagues, namely Neymar and Mbappe. meaning, Messi has left his ego to no longer always score goals. the problem that happened was with Mbappe, he felt he was more special than the other stars. The feud between Mbappe and Neymar is very familiar to us, even rumors regarding PSG stars never escape the news. in fact, not infrequently they still play professionally on the field.

The problem is, PSG do not have midfielders who are creative enough when building attacks. especially when facing teams that tend to defend. I think last January, Galtier will bring in a newcomer who plays as an attacking midfielder. but in fact, that didn't happen. related to Mbappe's injury, by the way. as we know, PSG's front line will be slightly less sharp. but in truth, we cannot rule out the existence of Neymar and Messi. because after all, Bayern will not underestimate PSG in the first leg later.

I would understand why Mbappe would feel more special than other stars, his peak will not be as good as what Messi had, but as of right now Mbappe is better than Messi, this is of course true because Mbappe is 23 years old and Messi is somewhere at 35 or something, when Messi was 23, he was much better than Mbappe is at this point.

But in any case, Mbappe believes that he should be the one that brings the glory, and that is why he looks to score a lot more than passing and Messi was always a good passer, sure he scored a lot in his time but he has passed amazingly so far as well. Which is why it's quite important to realize that they can both do what they want to do.

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Quote from: imamusma on February 04, 2023, 02:48:35 PM

Liverpool and Chelsea are unlikely to qualify for the quarter-finals this season following their poor run of form in their Premier League match. Until entering the 20th and 21st weeks, Liverpool and Chelsea both still have not found their best form and this is something that is likely to continue for them in the Champions League. Real Madrid and Dortmund look better in terms of performance than the two Premier League teams above, so I think Dortmund and Madrid will really make it to the quarter-finals this season.

Chelsea have spent a lot of budget this season just to strengthen their team, but the performance is not worth the money they spend. Regarding Liverpool, they have still failed to get good performance where the two English teams are still struggling in 9th and 10th positions so far.

liverpool continues to perform badly in the premier league, I don't expect them to lose their sharpness in every game they play. Two weeks from now, Liverpool will face Real Madrid in the round of 16. I'm not sure Liverpool can beat Real Madrid because Real Madrid has performed quite well in the la liga this season.

Liverpool quality has declined greatly this season, Mohamed Salah seems to have lost his sharpness on the front lines because he has not found the ideal figure in the final settlement. Liverpool are still struggling to cover the gap left by Sadio Mane. Sadio Mane departure might be a bad thing for Liverpool and it has proven to be true.

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Quote from: imamusma on February 04, 2023, 02:48:35 PM

Liverpool and Chelsea are unlikely to qualify for the quarter-finals this season following their poor run of form in their Premier League match. Until entering the 20th and 21st weeks, Liverpool and Chelsea both still have not found their best form and this is something that is likely to continue for them in the Champions League. Real Madrid and Dortmund look better in terms of performance than the two Premier League teams above, so I think Dortmund and Madrid will really make it to the quarter-finals this season.

Chelsea have spent a lot of budget this season just to strengthen their team, but the performance is not worth the money they spend. Regarding Liverpool, they have still failed to get good performance where the two English teams are still struggling in 9th and 10th positions so far.

Liverpool might not but for Chelsea there is still hope. Chelsea new signings are yet to adapt to the team at least they have moved from 10th position to 9th position lets hope their subsequent matches will show more progress but for Liverpool it is obvious they have lost form this season.

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Quote from: CLS63 on February 04, 2023, 02:56:12 PM

Maybe there have been a lot of discussions about PSG and their great trio. I wasn't going to add anything else to this but after seeing the news I felt the need of mentioning a situation.

I see that Neymar also has got injured and he might not be able to play for a few weeks according to the first impressions. This would be horrible for PSG side while the first leg of the Bayern Munich matchup has got quite close to us. Neymar and Mbappe both look likely to miss this match I'm afraid. They would be ready for the second leg I assume but it is still going to be very important to get an advantageous score in the first leg. Messi will have a much bigger responsibility in this match and I wonder how good he will deal with it.

Well this clearly isnt good that they lose their two superstars and main players in less then a weak. But this will give a huge boost to Bayern Munich and i think they will win this duel easily . But still psgs bench is still really good and knowing how much psg wants the champions league it will be an intresting duel even without this duo.

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Quote from: Silberman on February 03, 2023, 11:30:28 PM

Mbappe is in my opinion the best player around the world at the moment so there is no way to replace someone with his talent, but even then PSG has enough talent and experience to make this work, also Mbappe will be out for only three weeks so there is a chance Mbappe will recover before the second leg of the round of 16 is played, so as long as Bayern Munich does not win convincingly during the first leg, the return of Mbappe during the second leg will make enough of a difference for PSG to move forward to the quarterfinals.

I agree with your assessment regarding Mbappe - after all, the statistics say that he is the best at the moment. But I do not think that in order to win this confrontation, Bayern need to win convincingly (or even at all) in the first game. It is enough for them to draw or minimally win. I don't think PSG will have many chances at the Allianz Arena with or without Mbappe.

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It will be difficult to predict exactly which team will win the match between PSG and Bayern Munich. Because both teams of Bayern Munich and PSG do not have the stability of the game. So it is difficult to say how the match will be.

If the assessment is taken from the results of matches that have been played by both of them in their respective domestic leagues, it does not look so stable. But when it comes to the Champions League, I think both of these teams will try their best to be as good as possible and even better than their performances in their domestic league. Because basically these two teams are still equally strong this season, as well as the ranking they hold in their domestic league.

It may be as a result of irregularity in the pattern pf play of the clubs in their local league and the Champion leagues is a different thing entirely, some clubs may be performing very poor in their local league, and when it come to championship their play well.
*as being said some clubs may not be able to make any difference in the championships.

When you check the whole assessment in the summation phase, you will understand that the local league analysis is not holding water. If you check the ligue 1 table you will understand that psg is at the top. When you also check the Bundesliga you will understand that Bayern Munich is at the top. So what are we saying again? They are doing well in their local league and technically reserving for champions league.

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Quote from: hahay on February 04, 2023, 11:56:02 AM

Well, I'm still curious whether the absence of Aubameyang in the Chelsea squad for the Champions League can bring good results for Chelsea or not. Because if the result is still the same, that is to say, the result that Chelsea will get in the Champions League will still be the same as not being able to go any further.
So I think, the decision to include Aubameyang in the Chelsea squad or not, it seems that Chelsea's performance at this moment is indeed in a bad performance too. So yes, I don't think Aubameyang is also a factor in Chelsea's poor performance.

Even when the whole squad aren't on their A game, atleast someone should stand out and maybe he could carry the whole squad probably until some form starts coming back into the team. Aubameyang should have been that guy but he isn't any difference from how poorly others have been playing. The players that replace Aubameyang are far more talented them he is and they're younger with more energy to pay the sport. The only thing that Aubameyang has more than themis experience

So far he hasn't been able to use that experience effectively so he should take a break and let others come get the job done. Graham Potter also needs to get his head straight or he should be ready to recieve the sack letter anytime soon and If he was to be sacked, Chelsea should go for a well known managers and not all this prodigy.

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Maybe there have been a lot of discussions about PSG and their great trio. I wasn't going to add anything else to this but after seeing the news I felt the need of mentioning a situation.

I see that Neymar also has got injured and he might not be able to play for a few weeks according to the first impressions. This would be horrible for PSG side while the first leg of the Bayern Munich matchup has got quite close to us. Neymar and Mbappe both look likely to miss this match I'm afraid. They would be ready for the second leg I assume but it is still going to be very important to get an advantageous score in the first leg. Messi will have a much bigger responsibility in this match and I wonder how good he will deal with it.

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For now that's money happening. Regardless of anything, when we talk about PSG's performance which is a little shaky or there is news about player transfer rumors between them, there must be one reason about their relationship not getting along and this is not once or twice but the last few seasons that have made this really too much.
When talking about PSG and Bayern it is clear that there will be several opinions going on but indeed I agree with you even though PSG is strong but in this case Bayern will be superior and become the top 8 candidates later.

The disharmonious relationship between the superstars has been discussed many times, especially in the last few seasons. The climax was when PSG decided to sign Messi from Barcelona until now. I don't see Messi being too eager to compete with Mbappe, but Mbappe feels Messi's presence can overshadow his rising achievements. Obviously this will not benefit PSG because after all the relationship between this mega star which is not good will not help the team much to be successful because they only play for themselves.

It's better if Messi moves or Mbappe moves or it's also possible for both to move to different teams. It looks better for PSG because after all the relationship is not good as it looks at the moment it will not benefit PSG in the long run especially when it comes to team performance. Pay attention when Messi or Mbappe are absent, PSG's attack line is very strong.

With this condition it is clear that indeed when you see what Messi is doing now, in fact he doesn't really want to make records for himself and his current role is even more towards supplying Mbappe and Neymar.
On the other hand saying one of them has to leave might make sense but obviously PSG won't do that because they are also clear from a business perspective. Messi's presence clearly brings conditions where finances can flow especially with Messi being there how many fans follow PSG at this time.

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Liverpool and Chelsea are unlikely to qualify for the quarter-finals this season following their poor run of form in their Premier League match. Until entering the 20th and 21st weeks, Liverpool and Chelsea both still have not found their best form and this is something that is likely to continue for them in the Champions League. Real Madrid and Dortmund look better in terms of performance than the two Premier League teams above, so I think Dortmund and Madrid will really make it to the quarter-finals this season.

Chelsea have spent a lot of budget this season just to strengthen their team, but the performance is not worth the money they spend. Regarding Liverpool, they have still failed to get good performance where the two English teams are still struggling in 9th and 10th positions so far.

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It will be difficult to predict exactly which team will win the match between PSG and Bayern Munich. Because both teams of Bayern Munich and PSG do not have the stability of the game. So it is difficult to say how the match will be.

If the assessment is taken from the results of matches that have been played by both of them in their respective domestic leagues, it does not look so stable. But when it comes to the Champions League, I think both of these teams will try their best to be as good as possible and even better than their performances in their domestic league. Because basically these two teams are still equally strong this season, as well as the ranking they hold in their domestic league.

It may be as a result of irregularity in the pattern pf play of the clubs in their local league and the Champion leagues is a different thing entirely, some clubs may be performing very poor in their local league, and when it come to championship their play well.
*as being said some clubs may not be able to make any difference in the championships.

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The problem is, PSG do not have midfielders who are creative enough when building attacks. especially when facing teams that tend to defend. I think last January, Galtier will bring in a newcomer who plays as an attacking midfielder. but in fact, that didn't happen. related to Mbappe's injury, by the way. as we know, PSG's front line will be slightly less sharp. but in truth, we cannot rule out the existence of Neymar and Messi. because after all, Bayern will not underestimate PSG in the first leg later.

Any club if it faces a team that piles up players on the defensive line will find it difficult to penetrate it. I think PSG have a lot of good midfielders like Verratti. If you look at Barcelona, Man city they also have the same problem.
So blaming my linebacker isn't great. The coach also plays a role in shaping the pattern of the game. Indeed without Mbappe, Neymar and Messi PSG are difficult to win. Of course Mbappe's injury was very beneficial to Munich, because I heard he will miss 3 weeks and it is certain that the first leg he will be absent.

PSG's defense is weak. But their attack is strong. And the attacking performance depends entirely on the trio of Neymar, Messi and Mbappe. But now PSG's performance is somewhat erratic. But I would say that the success of the teams in the Champions League depends to a large extent on the coach's match strategy. If the coach's match strategy is not good, it is not possible to get the expected results even with a strong squad.

As psg attack is strong, it will make it very difficult for their defence to face pressure. When a team has a very good attack, it will make the team to be playing their football in the opposition half, thereby making their own defence not to be under too much pressure.
This is why the weakness of psg defence is not seen in every match.

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I see Frankfurt being in a really difficult situation against Napoli now. Because Napoli are still the same team we knew before the World Cup. They are still a difficult team to be stopped. They are still staying strong against even their biggest opponents in the Serie A. Actually after returning to the league they lost to Inter but it still didn't affect their morale in a bad way at all. They continued from where they left right after.

As for Frankfurt they are also a decent team in the Bundesliga and here both. But their game still doesn't seem to be good enough to stop a strong team like Napoli. These days Napoli are performing even better than Bayern Munich. Frankfurt have no choice other than improving their game more until then.

Even so, Frankfurt should not be underestimated. We know what magic they did last season in the Europa League and now for the domestic league competition they are starting to have real improvement.
I think with this condition they will provide resistance, although I still believe that the winner will be Napoli, but when they are off guard, Frankfurt will take the opportunity.

Frankfurt was a good team. Frankfurt was winning europa league and then frankfurt goes to the UCL. That proves that Frankfurt was even better compared with Barcelona. Napoli may get a win streak in series a but it doesn't mean it can underestimate Frankfurt.
Frankfurt was a team that was full of surprises. Some times napoli can also be beaten by Frankfurt as well. Napoli has very big chance to win against Frankfurt but this gonna be a tough match between Frankfurt and napoli.
Frankfurt will not let napoli to go to the next round. Frankfurt has a mission to kicking back napoli to the series a.

In terms of competition in the Champions League, I agree a little, but on the other hand, we also have to look at the group first. In fact, when we say Frankfurt is better than Barcelona, because the group phase is also important, especially in this case, seeing the list of clubs that Frankfurt is filled with is actually quite different from Barcelona. all that could be said was the Hell group.

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The problem is, PSG do not have midfielders who are creative enough when building attacks. especially when facing teams that tend to defend. I think last January, Galtier will bring in a newcomer who plays as an attacking midfielder. but in fact, that didn't happen. related to Mbappe's injury, by the way. as we know, PSG's front line will be slightly less sharp. but in truth, we cannot rule out the existence of Neymar and Messi. because after all, Bayern will not underestimate PSG in the first leg later.

Any club if it faces a team that piles up players on the defensive line will find it difficult to penetrate it. I think PSG have a lot of good midfielders like Verratti. If you look at Barcelona, Man city they also have the same problem.
So blaming my linebacker isn't great. The coach also plays a role in shaping the pattern of the game. Indeed without Mbappe, Neymar and Messi PSG are difficult to win. Of course Mbappe's injury was very beneficial to Munich, because I heard he will miss 3 weeks and it is certain that the first leg he will be absent.

PSG's defense is weak. But their attack is strong. And the attacking performance depends entirely on the trio of Neymar, Messi and Mbappe. But now PSG's performance is somewhat erratic. But I would say that the success of the teams in the Champions League depends to a large extent on the coach's match strategy. If the coach's match strategy is not good, it is not possible to get the expected results even with a strong squad.

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Quote from: AakZaki on February 04, 2023, 11:38:19 AM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on February 04, 2023, 07:30:00 AM

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The problem is, PSG do not have midfielders who are creative enough when building attacks. especially when facing teams that tend to defend. I think last January, Galtier will bring in a newcomer who plays as an attacking midfielder. but in fact, that didn't happen. related to Mbappe's injury, by the way. as we know, PSG's front line will be slightly less sharp. but in truth, we cannot rule out the existence of Neymar and Messi. because after all, Bayern will not underestimate PSG in the first leg later.

Any club if it faces a team that piles up players on the defensive line will find it difficult to penetrate it. I think PSG have a lot of good midfielders like Verratti. If you look at Barcelona, Man city they also have the same problem.
So blaming my linebacker isn't great. The coach also plays a role in shaping the pattern of the game. Indeed without Mbappe, Neymar and Messi PSG are difficult to win. Of course Mbappe's injury was very beneficial to Munich, because I heard he will miss 3 weeks and it is certain that the first leg he will be absent.

PSG have plenty of top players in their squad. But there is no such understanding among the players. We haven't seen any surprises from the Messi-Neymar Mbappe chemistry so far. I don't see any chance of PSG in the Champions League.

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Bad luck for Aubameyang, and it looks like Aubameyang may have also had this sort of unfavorable decision before at several clubs before. If that's the case, then it would be better for Aubameyang to go on loan to a team that is also playing in the Champions League and it would be even better for Aubameyang.

Because even though Aubameyang is 33 years old, in reality Aubameyang can still play well and can still score important goals for the team. So yes, this news is definitely bad news, and I personally deeply regret this decision.

I don't think any team playing in the champions league will accept Aubameyang, because the age factor and of course he also doesn't contribute enough to the team will only make him a burden on the team. Indeed, Chelsea's decision is very unfortunate, but if they don't make that decision, they will lose money and time if they keep Aubameyang.

Well, I'm still curious whether the absence of Aubameyang in the Chelsea squad for the Champions League can bring good results for Chelsea or not. Because if the result is still the same, that is to say, the result that Chelsea will get in the Champions League will still be the same as not being able to go any further.
So I think, the decision to include Aubameyang in the Chelsea squad or not, it seems that Chelsea's performance at this moment is indeed in a bad performance too. So yes, I don't think Aubameyang is also a factor in Chelsea's poor performance.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on February 04, 2023, 07:30:00 AM

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The problem is, PSG do not have midfielders who are creative enough when building attacks. especially when facing teams that tend to defend. I think last January, Galtier will bring in a newcomer who plays as an attacking midfielder. but in fact, that didn't happen. related to Mbappe's injury, by the way. as we know, PSG's front line will be slightly less sharp. but in truth, we cannot rule out the existence of Neymar and Messi. because after all, Bayern will not underestimate PSG in the first leg later.

Any club if it faces a team that piles up players on the defensive line will find it difficult to penetrate it. I think PSG have a lot of good midfielders like Verratti. If you look at Barcelona, Man city they also have the same problem.
So blaming my linebacker isn't great. The coach also plays a role in shaping the pattern of the game. Indeed without Mbappe, Neymar and Messi PSG are difficult to win. Of course Mbappe's injury was very beneficial to Munich, because I heard he will miss 3 weeks and it is certain that the first leg he will be absent.

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The problems in the relationship between Mbappe and Neymar have been talked about a lot more recently than the problem in the relationship between Mbappe and Messi.
The owners of PSG definitely made a big mistake when they decided on the strategy of buying the biggest stars of world football, not realizing that each of these footballers has a big ego and wants to be the biggest and most important in the team.
Of course, this is not possible in reality, and due to the conflict between the main stars of the team, the whole team has been playing badly in the French league lately, and they are no longer favorites in the Champions League either.
The owners of PSG really invested huge money in the team but now they understand the hard truth that success in the Champions League cannot be bought with money and that although they have the best players in the world, they do not have the best team in the world.

I have a slightly different view.

I think Messi is well aware that he cannot perform extraordinary at his current age. in the first season, Messi had a little difficulty adapting. in the second season, messi played more as a playmaker to serve his two colleagues, namely Neymar and Mbappe. meaning, Messi has left his ego to no longer always score goals. the problem that happened was with Mbappe, he felt he was more special than the other stars. The feud between Mbappe and Neymar is very familiar to us, even rumors regarding PSG stars never escape the news. in fact, not infrequently they still play professionally on the field.

The problem is, PSG do not have midfielders who are creative enough when building attacks. especially when facing teams that tend to defend. I think last January, Galtier will bring in a newcomer who plays as an attacking midfielder. but in fact, that didn't happen. related to Mbappe's injury, by the way. as we know, PSG's front line will be slightly less sharp. but in truth, we cannot rule out the existence of Neymar and Messi. because after all, Bayern will not underestimate PSG in the first leg later.

I pretty much agree PSG have a considerable shortage of midfielders. Midfielder is one of the playmakers, the entire attacking play depends on the midfielder. Another weakness of PSG is their defense line, they hold the ball for too long.

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Actually, in this condition, I don't know why I feel a little tired of discussing the condition of Mbappe, Neymar and Messi. This condition has always been discussed even for several seasons and it is happening again now.
I think this condition should be stopped immediately, but indeed, when the media always does things like this, even if they work, this is a little outrageous if it continues to be brought up, I think because regardless of anything, if even that doesn't turn out to be true, it could change when a third party says.
Mane is currently still recovering and it's quite natural that many still have doubts, especially with his current condition, which is actually getting bigger than doubt after a long injury now.

There's no denying that Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are the most talked about players at PSG. They are great strikers and it's only natural that they get a lot of media attention and coverage. I don't see any problem with how the media talks about them too much, but I might disagree if even the smallest things they experience are made bigger by the media.

PSG vs Bayern Munich is the most anticipated match in the Champions League, but I believe Bayern Munich seems to have more support to qualify for the quarter-finals. But I'm thinking something different, and I think PSG have chance to qualify for the quarter-finals as well. I can think 50/50 of the chance, and these two teams should have the upper hand at their home ground.

For now that's money happening. Regardless of anything, when we talk about PSG's performance which is a little shaky or there is news about player transfer rumors between them, there must be one reason about their relationship not getting along and this is not once or twice but the last few seasons that have made this really too much.
When talking about PSG and Bayern it is clear that there will be several opinions going on but indeed I agree with you even though PSG is strong but in this case Bayern will be superior and become the top 8 candidates later.

The chemistry between Messi, Neymar and Mbappe has not been the kind of performance we've been hoping for so far. One of the goals in signing Lionel Messi to PSC is to achieve something great in the Champions League. But no performance of PSC team can be noticed that they can do well in Champions League.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 04, 2023, 06:09:29 AM

The problems in the relationship between Mbappe and Neymar have been talked about a lot more recently than the problem in the relationship between Mbappe and Messi.
The owners of PSG definitely made a big mistake when they decided on the strategy of buying the biggest stars of world football, not realizing that each of these footballers has a big ego and wants to be the biggest and most important in the team.
Of course, this is not possible in reality, and due to the conflict between the main stars of the team, the whole team has been playing badly in the French league lately, and they are no longer favorites in the Champions League either.
The owners of PSG really invested huge money in the team but now they understand the hard truth that success in the Champions League cannot be bought with money and that although they have the best players in the world, they do not have the best team in the world.

I have a slightly different view.

I think Messi is well aware that he cannot perform extraordinary at his current age. in the first season, Messi had a little difficulty adapting. in the second season, messi played more as a playmaker to serve his two colleagues, namely Neymar and Mbappe. meaning, Messi has left his ego to no longer always score goals. the problem that happened was with Mbappe, he felt he was more special than the other stars. The feud between Mbappe and Neymar is very familiar to us, even rumors regarding PSG stars never escape the news. in fact, not infrequently they still play professionally on the field.

The problem is, PSG do not have midfielders who are creative enough when building attacks. especially when facing teams that tend to defend. I think last January, Galtier will bring in a newcomer who plays as an attacking midfielder. but in fact, that didn't happen. related to Mbappe's injury, by the way. as we know, PSG's front line will be slightly less sharp. but in truth, we cannot rule out the existence of Neymar and Messi. because after all, Bayern will not underestimate PSG in the first leg later.

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