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February 07, 2023, 02:44:11 AM
Im feeling worry about city. There are some problems that have been facing by the club.

- Numerous allegations being made by premier league to the city caused by city was doing shady things since 2008-2018
- Some players will be leaving the club caused of the bad condition that is faced by the club.
- It has been rumored that pep will be leaving from city as well
- Degradation is also waiting for manchester city

Those things will be giving leipzig so many advantages. City was facing very big problems now. I doubt if it can be solved as soon as possible. I think that anyone shall consider it before try to bet on city. This club has so many problems.
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February 07, 2023, 01:56:44 AM
Milan can't suddenly start being a great team in UCL just because they are losing in the league. I mean they are not doing that great right now and they won't do anything good in UCL neither, that is not going to happen, that is going to be a problem for them.

Doesn't mean they can't beat Spurs, there is a good chance that they could beat Spurs and that could happen, but that doesn't change the fact that we will see them do even better afterwards, the best they can do will be beating Spurs, after that, unless they get a very very lucky draw from a much smaller team, they are going to lose, and there is a big possibility that they will lose to Spurs as well.
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February 07, 2023, 01:52:31 AM
Both clubs unexpectedly lost their games, but I would say that these are very different defeats. Real Madrid maintain a good percentage of points scored, while Liverpool falls deeper and is currently even outside the European competition area. They have a game in hand, but it can also turn not into three points, but into something worse  Grin
In general, I continue to consider Real as a favorite in this pair.
I also think that Real Madrid are the favorites in the Champions League over Liverpool. Real Madrid has good chance to win the match and qualify for the quarter-finals even though they are both in bit of bad form recently. Liverpool have been appear substandard all season even if they did well in the Champions League group stages, but at least I can hope nothing changes from Liverpool regarding their form and they should be out of the Champions League in this round of 16.

Apart from Real Madrid being the champions last season, they are the most experienced team in this competition so the mentality can still be expected. Real Madrid's performance has always been good in the Champions League even though they could have lost and failed this season.
I totally agree with you that Real Madrid has a great shot of winning the Champions League and moving on. Having the attitude and experience of a champion team from the previous season is a major asset. Bettors and oddsmakers' forecasts for the game should also be considered. You said Liverpool has underwhelmed this season, however it's worth noting that the odds are 2.3 for Liverpool to win the match while they are 3.0 for Real Madrid. This might indicate that bookies consider Liverpool to be an underdog with a fighting chance of winning.

But anything may happen on game day, and the chances are simply estimates. Liverpool might possibly be underperforming at home but have the ability to bring their exciting football to the Champions League. No matter what happens, I know this will be a thrilling contest to watch. Liverpool might perhaps prove everyone wrong in the Champions League.
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February 06, 2023, 11:54:26 PM
Was it just because of Mane, or was it coincidental since Mane left for Bayern Munich?
I don't think Liverpool's bad form this season is due to Mane leaving for Bayern, that's not the only reason in my opinion.
It is not only because of Mane departure to Bayern Munich. His departure is one of reasons but not only and not all reasons.

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I assume that overall Liverpool have dropped this season and it's not just about their strikers. Players' injury problems have damaged their form, while the new arrivals have not been able to prove their best so far.
The past long and very ambitious season has negative impacts on many Liverpool players. They were exhausted and not ready for this season with poorer performances and some got injuries too. World Cup 2022 is hosted in December makes it worse for Liverpool when many players came back to the club with tired bodies and mentality.

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Liverpool need really good midfielder to push more power in midfield instead of being so focused on improving attack. The proof is, since Darwin Nunez and Gakpo filled Liverpool's line-up, they weren't really able to contribute much to victory. Is it because of Klopp's incompetence, I think that's bad reason too.
It is time for Liverpool to think of what they will do at the end of season. Start with a coach position of Klopp first, will they determinantly use him in next seasons or will look for another coach? They must think of it as soon as possible to have good preparation in the summer. If they wait for the season ending to start thinking about it, it is too late.

Personally I support Klopp to stay in Liverpool at least one more season. If he can not improve the club performance in the next season, he should leave.
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February 06, 2023, 11:16:55 PM
@KipaCrypto I have said it multiple time’s and I’ll say it again that Klopp should go, his decision not to retain Mane was a foolish one and so far it’s clear to see that the team is not responding to his tactics hence the board should act now. Lastly I believe that Liverpool’s board could target Tuchel or Poch as these two are currently available, and I’m sure either one of them can revive Liverpool and help them dominate the champions league and premier league again.
Was it just because of Mane, or was it coincidental since Mane left for Bayern Munich?
I don't think Liverpool's bad form this season is due to Mane leaving for Bayern, that's not the only reason in my opinion.
I assume that overall Liverpool have dropped this season and it's not just about their strikers. Players' injury problems have damaged their form, while the new arrivals have not been able to prove their best so far.

Liverpool need really good midfielder to push more power in midfield instead of being so focused on improving attack. The proof is, since Darwin Nunez and Gakpo filled Liverpool's line-up, they weren't really able to contribute much to victory. Is it because of Klopp's incompetence, I think that's bad reason too.
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February 06, 2023, 11:02:03 PM
It's a normal thing for a decline in the firm of a team, as we all know Liverpool has been a major force in the league for some time now, so as a top thing even when things are not going the right way for you , you should fight and get back if not to your level then maybe something close to it,  this Liverpool side I don't know their problem they still have good players, sadio mane left and they made incredible signings in Darwin Nunez and Gakpo upfront playing with one of the best player in the league in person on mo Salah, so why are the goals not coming, in defence they have virgil van dijk so I don't know, or might it be that the players have lost it in the manager? , Or or its time for Jürgen Klopp to call it an end , I just believe this Liverpool side needs a new management and if they don't act fast they might end the season at the second half of the table.

I don't think nunez and takpo are good recruits. Both of these players are overrated players. people will say if both are new players in liverpool and those will need time to develop. If we look at the many matches played by the two, especially nunez. We can conclude that both were panic transfers. Therefore, I think that if the nunez should be replaced immediately. I mean if nunez's performance is really bad. Missed many golden opportunities to help the club from losing or drawing. It's only fitting that the nunez should be replaced. The performance of the gakpo itself is no less bad than nunez. Im thinking about klopp potentially to be sacked by FSG. There are so many rumors about FSG wanna try to sack klopp once klopp didn't give good results in upcoming match especially champion league.
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February 06, 2023, 10:59:21 PM
It's a normal thing for a decline in the firm of a team, as we all know Liverpool has been a major force in the league for some time now, so as a top thing even when things are not going the right way for you , you should fight and get back if not to your level then maybe something close to it,  this Liverpool side I don't know their problem they still have good players, sadio mane left and they made incredible signings in Darwin Nunez and Gakpo upfront playing with one of the best player in the league in person on mo Salah, so why are the goals not coming, in defence they have virgil van dijk so I don't know, or might it be that the players have lost it in the manager? , Or or its time for Jürgen Klopp to call it an end , I just believe this Liverpool side needs a new management and if they don't act fast they might end the season at the second half of the table.

@KipaCrypto I have said it multiple time’s and I’ll say it again that Klopp should go, his decision not to retain Mane was a foolish one and so far it’s clear to see that the team is not responding to his tactics hence the board should act now. Lastly I believe that Liverpool’s board could target Tuchel or Poch as these two are currently available, and I’m sure either one of them can revive Liverpool and help them dominate the champions league and premier league again.
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February 06, 2023, 10:44:57 PM
It's a normal thing for a decline in the firm of a team, as we all know Liverpool has been a major force in the league for some time now, so as a top thing even when things are not going the right way for you , you should fight and get back if not to your level then maybe something close to it,  this Liverpool side I don't know their problem they still have good players, sadio mane left and they made incredible signings in Darwin Nunez and Gakpo upfront playing with one of the best player in the league in person on mo Salah, so why are the goals not coming, in defence they have virgil van dijk so I don't know, or might it be that the players have lost it in the manager? , Or or its time for Jürgen Klopp to call it an end , I just believe this Liverpool side needs a new management and if they don't act fast they might end the season at the second half of the table.
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February 06, 2023, 10:17:03 PM
Nunez and Gakpo are young talented players. They have been recruited into the team after long planning. Now these two players are not playing well. They are also missing out on easy opportunities. As they gradually become more experienced, their performance may stabilize. But Liverpool's match strategy also has problems with Jurgen Klopp not doing his job properly.
They are young players and can sharpen their skills more but with their expensive transfers especially Nunez, pressure on their shoulders is huge. They must over come this as soon as possible and at least they must improve to have acceptable performance for Liverpool. It is helpful for the club and for themselves to get rid of noise and pressure from media which can impact their career in Liverpool.

I don't expect Nunez and Gakpo succeed in this season because it is not common to see new players can have success in their first seasons in Premier League. A next season will be better to assess their performance for Liverpool.

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Perhaps Liverpool is still missing Sadio Mane. Liverpool's biggest mistake this season was deciding to sell Mane without finding a suitable replacement. And because of this mistake, Liverpool's situation is still unstable.
Life is always changing and players come and go including Mane. Liverpool likely are missing Mane now but they must come through it and aim at future with other players.
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February 06, 2023, 08:39:51 PM
I know that Liverpool were still bad in the Premier League while they were doing a great job in the Champions League group stage. However Liverpool still can't improve their performance now. Injuries are also a factor in this of course because they have some important players missing still - like Diaz and Firmino. If they were able to play things might have been better for Liverpool. Maybe they are bad at defending but at least they could have strengthened their attacking area.
This time liverpool is not performing as well as usual. The bad performance in EPL will be greatly affecting the performance of liverpool in UCL. I can take the result from two matches against brighton and wolves gave a significant impact to the liverpool.

Nunez and gakpo have become failed transfers by liverpool. Im glad to see that aurelien tchouameni was waiting for madrid rather than decided move to the liverpool.

Nunez and Gakpo are young talented players. They have been recruited into the team after long planning. Now these two players are not playing well. They are also missing out on easy opportunities. As they gradually become more experienced, their performance may stabilize. But Liverpool's match strategy also has problems with Jurgen Klopp not doing his job properly.

Perhaps Liverpool is still missing Sadio Mane. Liverpool's biggest mistake this season was deciding to sell Mane without finding a suitable replacement. And because of this mistake, Liverpool's situation is still unstable.
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February 06, 2023, 08:26:00 PM
I don't have much expectation from Liverpool from now on truthfully. Because they don't give anything positive to us to rely on.
Yeah, seeing the result from several matches on EPL didn't even make me feel confident with it.

It was losing against brighton and then wolves. That was also making klopp's position in the crisis. UCL will become the most important match that will determine klopp's fate. FSG may try to use the result from UCL as an evaluation to determine klopp's fate in liverpool.

I would not be surprised if klopp will be sacked once liverpool lose against real madrid in UCL.

I know that Liverpool were still bad in the Premier League while they were doing a great job in the Champions League group stage. However Liverpool still can't improve their performance now. Injuries are also a factor in this of course because they have some important players missing still - like Diaz and Firmino. If they were able to play things might have been better for Liverpool. Maybe they are bad at defending but at least they could have strengthened their attacking area.
This time liverpool is not performing as well as usual. The bad performance in EPL will be greatly affecting the performance of liverpool in UCL. I can take the result from two matches against brighton and wolves gave a significant impact to the liverpool.

Nunez and gakpo have become failed transfers by liverpool. Im glad to see that aurelien tchouameni was waiting for madrid rather than decided move to the liverpool.
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February 06, 2023, 07:57:01 PM
Both clubs unexpectedly lost their games, but I would say that these are very different defeats. Real Madrid maintain a good percentage of points scored, while Liverpool falls deeper and is currently even outside the European competition area. They have a game in hand, but it can also turn not into three points, but into something worse  Grin
In general, I continue to consider Real as a favorite in this pair.
I also think that Real Madrid are the favorites in the Champions League over Liverpool. Real Madrid has good chance to win the match and qualify for the quarter-finals even though they are both in bit of bad form recently. Liverpool have been appear substandard all season even if they did well in the Champions League group stages, but at least I can hope nothing changes from Liverpool regarding their form and they should be out of the Champions League in this round of 16.

Apart from Real Madrid being the champions last season, they are the most experienced team in this competition so the mentality can still be expected. Real Madrid's performance has always been good in the Champions League even though they could have lost and failed this season.
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February 06, 2023, 06:38:51 PM
no doubt Tottenham are in good form but i feel this game against ac milan will be a totally different atmosphere as long as the champions league is concerned  teams can perform with a totally different spirit in the champions league and i think ac milan will do every possible best to make sure they secure a win on the first leg match up with Tottenham as they will be playing from home on their first leg match and looking at Tottenham Hotspur with this kind of stats, i feel the match is going to be very tough for both teams.
I think even though Milan are playing quite badly in the domestic league, when they are in the UCL competition it will definitely be very different from what has been seen so far. And I think Spurs have to be wary of Milan in the first leg, because of course Milan have lost hope of competing with Napoli in the domestic league but they still have a chance in the UCL, so they will play it out in that.
I agree, even with Tottenham beating Man City and Ac Milan's bad form, I'm definitely betting on Ac milan in this one, it's very true that things are different from. a league to a trophy like the champions league, and I can definitely see Ac milan going through Tottenham in their battle, I know a lot of people will look at their forms and go with Tottenham so I'm going against their prediction here.
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February 06, 2023, 04:58:18 PM
no doubt Tottenham are in good form but i feel this game against ac milan will be a totally different atmosphere as long as the champions league is concerned  teams can perform with a totally different spirit in the champions league and i think ac milan will do every possible best to make sure they secure a win on the first leg match up with Tottenham as they will be playing from home on their first leg match and looking at Tottenham Hotspur with this kind of stats, i feel the match is going to be very tough for both teams.
I think even though Milan are playing quite badly in the domestic league, when they are in the UCL competition it will definitely be very different from what has been seen so far. And I think Spurs have to be wary of Milan in the first leg, because of course Milan have lost hope of competing with Napoli in the domestic league but they still have a chance in the UCL, so they will play it out in that.
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February 06, 2023, 04:38:55 PM
Even though Real Madrid and Liverpool lost this week in their respective local leagues, of course these results still cannot be used as a benchmark for their performance when they play in the Champions League later. But yes, after all Liverpool are in difficult situations and conditions and also, two teams against Liverpool in the Premier League are quite difficult before Liverpool play against Real Madrid.

With these considerations, of course Real Madrid will still have a chance to beat Liverpool, but if later Liverpool can hold Real Madrid to a draw then that will also be a good result for Liverpool.

Both clubs unexpectedly lost their games, but I would say that these are very different defeats. Real Madrid maintain a good percentage of points scored, while Liverpool falls deeper and is currently even outside the European competition area. They have a game in hand, but it can also turn not into three points, but into something worse  Grin
In general, I continue to consider Real as a favorite in this pair.
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February 06, 2023, 04:20:51 PM
I don't have much expectation from Liverpool from now on truthfully. Because they don't give anything positive to us to rely on.

I know that Liverpool were still bad in the Premier League while they were doing a great job in the Champions League group stage. However Liverpool still can't improve their performance now. Injuries are also a factor in this of course because they have some important players missing still - like Diaz and Firmino. If they were able to play things might have been better for Liverpool. Maybe they are bad at defending but at least they could have strengthened their attacking area.
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February 06, 2023, 04:11:48 PM
The favorite this season which we are hoping they will be the one to win the Champions league are not even in their best form which is Bayern Munich and PSG.  This two teams are having some challenges in their games.  Let's watch out and see if any of these teams can win it this time.

Yea they're both struggling at the moment which is not a good thing for either team because they'll be facing each other soon. As much as I do not like to use league form to determine Champions league, PSG are not looking like a team that can beat Bayern Munich right now. With Mbappe and Neymer injured, that leaves only Lionel Messi among the 3 upfront. PSG have not really had a pattern of play and they don't really play as a team. Before the world cup my bet was on PSG to win but right now now the odds are changing.

Man City is also a side to be reckoned with in the competition. They always mess up at this stage of the competition but this season might be different. There's no team they're not capable of winning on their day so you can't also write them off.
Mbappe confirmed would miss this clash against bayern munich in champions league but not with neymar who reported will be back two days before the CL first leg , well i still think the messi-neymar duo could handle bayern munich and get the first leg win, i have that feeling.

Both are not in really great shape but psg had more chance in my opinion.
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February 06, 2023, 04:06:59 PM
I think many will start doubting AC Milan in the last 16 round. Because as we know in Serie A AC Milan seems to have decreased. Even AC Milan didn't seem to be playing optimally against Inter Milan. but Tottenham, who will face AC Milan in the last 16 round, are looking better for now. Even Tottenham was able to beat Man City. But still, the Ac Milan vs Tottenham match I think will still be a match that is quite difficult to predict. even I can not determine which team will be the favorite later.
Tottenham had just finished their tough match against Manchester City and they managed to win the game with a narrow score. Meanwhile AC Milan also completed their derby match and unlike Tottenham they lost that match. The problem is not the result of the match but AC Milan's overall performance. So I wouldn't be surprised to see Tottenham being favorites now.
Tottenham should be the favourite in this match because I see that the team have confident to face any club without fear. It was yesterday that I started seeing this after the scored Man city at the early hour of the match and held this goal till the end of the match with a victory over Man city.

I see this as an advantage for Tottenham to win AC Milan, because the club is unpredictable and also in a good form. EPL is always more stronger than any league therefore any EPL that can win a strong team like Man city presently will do better in UCL. The match is unpredictable since AC Milan is also a strong club and cannot be underestimated.
no doubt Tottenham are in good form but i feel this game against ac milan will be a totally different atmosphere as long as the champions league is concerned  teams can perform with a totally different spirit in the champions league and i think ac milan will do every possible best to make sure they secure a win on the first leg match up with Tottenham as they will be playing from home on their first leg match and looking at Tottenham Hotspur with this kind of stats, i feel the match is going to be very tough for both teams.
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February 06, 2023, 03:51:30 PM
I think many will start doubting AC Milan in the last 16 round. Because as we know in Serie A AC Milan seems to have decreased. Even AC Milan didn't seem to be playing optimally against Inter Milan. but Tottenham, who will face AC Milan in the last 16 round, are looking better for now. Even Tottenham was able to beat Man City. But still, the Ac Milan vs Tottenham match I think will still be a match that is quite difficult to predict. even I can not determine which team will be the favorite later.
Milan was disgraced in Inter match, I don't understand how such a team can go into such a decline, not in a total performance of a few games. They couldn't use one more corner kick during the match, because of what happened in the league, I see Milan as the weak link. Although Tottenham is not in the position they want in the league, other teams are clearly afraid of this team. They also have a machine like Kane. Milan will need a lot of luck in this game.
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February 06, 2023, 03:31:39 PM
The favorite this season which we are hoping they will be the one to win the Champions league are not even in their best form which is Bayern Munich and PSG.  This two teams are having some challenges in their games.  Let's watch out and see if any of these teams can win it this time.

Yea they're both struggling at the moment which is not a good thing for either team because they'll be facing each other soon. As much as I do not like to use league form to determine Champions league, PSG are not looking like a team that can beat Bayern Munich right now. With Mbappe and Neymer injured, that leaves only Lionel Messi among the 3 upfront. PSG have not really had a pattern of play and they don't really play as a team. Before the world cup my bet was on PSG to win but right now now the odds are changing.

Man City is also a side to be reckoned with in the competition. They always mess up at this stage of the competition but this season might be different. There's no team they're not capable of winning on their day so you can't also write them off.
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