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It remains an open match between Liverpool and Real Madrid. Both teams often fall behind, but the difference is that Real Madrid often manages to win its games. Liverpool may be in their worst spell of the last 20 years. I don't remember them dropping that many points before. Maybe because of Mane's departure? Possible. It's lucky they have Salah, but he can't do much on his own at the moment. Many mistakes are also made defensively. Perhaps some players will be brought in during the winter period, I think that innovations are needed to raise the level.

I think Liverpool will certainly prepare changes for their team so that they can face Madrid in the Champions League later and can provide good resistance, because of course Liverpool also wants to qualify for the next round, let alone have a grudge in last season's UCL match Liverpool lost to Madrid, this is an opportunity Liverpool to avenge the previous defeat

I hope so but as you can see that there are not significant improvements that happened with Liverpool. that being said even Liverpool has some new players and these players were not changing the performance from the team significantly. I think that people shall aware if these days real madrid was coming back again to be the king of comeback. Liverpool must be careful with real madrid. Gakpo as an over rated player can do nothing against Liverpool. I would like to see what will be doing by gakpo against real madrid.
Real madrid has so many world classes players. Will liverpool lose against real madrid easily?

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It remains an open match between Liverpool and Real Madrid. Both teams often fall behind, but the difference is that Real Madrid often manages to win its games. Liverpool may be in their worst spell of the last 20 years. I don't remember them dropping that many points before. Maybe because of Mane's departure? Possible. It's lucky they have Salah, but he can't do much on his own at the moment. Many mistakes are also made defensively. Perhaps some players will be brought in during the winter period, I think that innovations are needed to raise the level.

I think Liverpool will certainly prepare changes for their team so that they can face Madrid in the Champions League later and can provide good resistance, because of course Liverpool also wants to qualify for the next round, let alone have a grudge in last season's UCL match Liverpool lost to Madrid, this is an opportunity Liverpool to avenge the previous defeat

In what way? I still haven't seen any signs of them changing anything there because it can be seen from the domestic league they are running they still don't have anything to be proud of.
The match is less than 2 weeks away now and they still haven't found good form. Obviously this is a bit of a doubt for me for Liverpool, especially at this time, even though Madrid is still lacking, they can still be said to be better in terms of performance.

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Quote from: Davian144 on January 27, 2023, 07:12:08 AM

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Chelsea and Liverpool seem to be the center of attention now in the Champions League, yes, this is inseparable from the poor performances they have shown in the domestic league. The truth is they are a big team who have always been able to compete for the Champions League championship, but now they have a lot of doubts about what they are doing with their game not improving. This is a real impact for them, especially in the Champions League, there are many teams that have great strength to compete and become champions here.

Many people predict that they will be eliminated more easily in the Champions League this season after seeing the performances they have shown in their domestic league this season. Moreover, Liverpool immediately met a very tough opponent in the last 16 of the Champions League where this had to force Liverpool to be able to win at home before going to cage Real Madrid. But considering Liverpool's condition, which is currently not getting better, it seems that it will be very difficult for Liverpool to win even if they are playing at home.

For this fixture, looking at the statistics of both teams this season I think this is a really tough test for Klopp and his Liverpool team. With the team going through a tough phase of poor form and results I doubt Liverpool will be able to knock out Real Madrid from the tournament this season except Liverpool improve and get back their winning momentum there is no way they will be able to eliminate Real Madrid in the Champions league this season.

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It remains an open match between Liverpool and Real Madrid. Both teams often fall behind, but the difference is that Real Madrid often manages to win its games. Liverpool may be in their worst spell of the last 20 years. I don't remember them dropping that many points before. Maybe because of Mane's departure? Possible. It's lucky they have Salah, but he can't do much on his own at the moment. Many mistakes are also made defensively. Perhaps some players will be brought in during the winter period, I think that innovations are needed to raise the level.

I think Liverpool will certainly prepare changes for their team so that they can face Madrid in the Champions League later and can provide good resistance, because of course Liverpool also wants to qualify for the next round, let alone have a grudge in last season's UCL match Liverpool lost to Madrid, this is an opportunity Liverpool to avenge the previous defeat

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Chelsea and Liverpool seem to be the center of attention now in the Champions League, yes, this is inseparable from the poor performances they have shown in the domestic league. The truth is they are a big team who have always been able to compete for the Champions League championship, but now they have a lot of doubts about what they are doing with their game not improving. This is a real impact on them, especially in the Champions League, many teams have great strength to compete and become champions here.

Many people predict that they will be eliminated more easily in the Champions League this season after seeing the performances they have shown in their domestic league this season. Moreover, Liverpool immediately met a very tough opponent in the last 16 of the Champions League where this had to force Liverpool to be able to win at home before going to cage Real Madrid. But considering Liverpool's condition, which is currently not getting better, it seems that it will be very difficult for Liverpool to win even if they are playing at home.

As the defending champions, I am sure that Chelsea will win against Borussia Dortmund even with their poor performance and records in the domestic league. I'm not undertaking Dortmund, but I don't see them as a team that can stop Chelsea in the UEFA Champions league. but I'm not too sure about Liverpool qualifying for the next round, considering their opponent who seems to be the most successful team when speaking about the champion league title.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on January 26, 2023, 05:17:21 PM

Actually, in my opinion, Dortmund this season is also not as strong as we thought it was the previous season. In fact, Dortmund's performance in the Bundesliga has also decreased slightly. But indeed when compared to Chelsea, Dortmund may have a little better in terms of performance and also tactics. Chelsea, on the other hand, are very inconsistent, sometimes they are able to provide extraordinary spectacle, but sometimes they exceed expectations with defeats that are upsetting and unexpected. this is what makes us worry about Chelsea's performance in the UCL later against Dortmund.

Yes, that's a strong reason I dare not say who will be the winner in the first leg later, because these two teams have relatively decreased in performance compared to last season. Whether it's Dortmund or Chelsea, they find it difficult to develop the best game in their respective leagues. especially Chelsea who have had bad luck because many players have suffered injuries so that it will interfere with the quality they have on the field.

for dortmund they are still having trouble printing more sharp stickers after Erling Haaland left for manchester city. Youssoufa Moukoko still lacks experience, he needs time to become the best on Dortmund front line, perhaps that is the gap that has hampered Dortmund performance this season.

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Chelsea and Liverpool seem to be the center of attention now in the Champions League, yes, this is inseparable from the poor performances they have shown in the domestic league. The truth is they are a big team who have always been able to compete for the Champions League championship, but now they have a lot of doubts about what they are doing with their game not improving. This is a real impact for them, especially in the Champions League, there are many teams that have great strength to compete and become champions here.

maybe one of the problems is the storm of injuries to their players so that they have to arrange a lot of strategies to deal with each of their opponents, even though their ending looks bad but slowly over time they will quickly recover and get better, there is still time before the Champions league really started and they have to clean up when it starts

I think in Liverpool's case the injury isn't such a big deal because they are not missing any stars, but maybe it could impact them a small bit. However, the reality is that Chelsea sucks because Chelsea sucks, that's it and that's why there is nothing they could fix with all the players healthy. They suck because they are terrible and they need to find another manager to make this work. No team in the world should be spending 400 million! such a staggering amount and still be bad, that's just not okay.

I believe that they should have been in UCL spots (first four) in the league and be clearly dominant in UCL against teams like Dortmund and not up for grabs level close to each other.

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It remains an open match between Liverpool and Real Madrid. Both teams often fall behind, but the difference is that Real Madrid often manages to win its games. Liverpool may be in their worst spell of the last 20 years. I don't remember them dropping that many points before. Maybe because of Mane's departure? Possible. It's lucky they have Salah, but he can't do much on his own at the moment. Many mistakes are also made defensively. Perhaps some players will be brought in during the winter period, I think that innovations are needed to raise the level.

One of my most entertaining match in the last season was Liverpool and Real Madrid the match look so much like the finals and the atmosphere created alot of panic, but this season I don't know what the outcome will be since both clubs have been underperforming compared to last season .

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It remains an open match between Liverpool and Real Madrid. Both teams often fall behind, but the difference is that Real Madrid often manages to win its games. Liverpool may be in their worst spell of the last 20 years. I don't remember them dropping that many points before. Maybe because of Mane's departure? Possible. It's lucky they have Salah, but he can't do much on his own at the moment. Many mistakes are also made defensively. Perhaps some players will be brought in during the winter period, I think that innovations are needed to raise the level.

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Quote from: CLS63 on January 27, 2023, 02:38:25 PM

Liverpool's job against Real Madrid is going to be quite difficult in my opinion. Because Liverpool are still dealing with the same problems these days. I didn't like them against Chelsea in their recent EPL match as well. Of course some important players have been injured and this has also a big affect on this form. But even when they had those players they weren't very consistent.

The scenario in the Champions League has always been different though. They have seemed like a completely different team here. But I still doubt their performance in the absence of players like Diaz and Firmino. Both players are still injured and they are even likely to miss both legs. In that case Real Madrid can increase their chance of eliminating them more.

Since losing several important players for their front line Liverpool have been in a slump and this is a big difference from before, Diaz, Jota, Firmino and Sadio Mane on sale have lost direction in their attack now Liverpool still have to struggle with their instability in the Premier League so me too doubt when they are in the Champions League who will face Real Madrid.

I believe the scenario in the UCL is always different but given the conditions now are much worse on the other side Liverpool also always lose against Real Madrid, is it realistic for Klopp to go ahead with their win? I have doubts in the UCL even in the league itself.

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Quote from: CLS63 on January 27, 2023, 02:38:25 PM

Liverpool's job against Real Madrid is going to be quite difficult in my opinion. Because Liverpool are still dealing with the same problems these days. I didn't like them against Chelsea in their recent EPL match as well. Of course some important players have been injured and this has also a big affect on this form. But even when they had those players they weren't very consistent.

The scenario in the Champions League has always been different though. They have seemed like a completely different team here. But I still doubt their performance in the absence of players like Diaz and Firmino. Both players are still injured and they are even likely to miss both legs. In that case Real Madrid can increase their chance of eliminating them more.

Liverpool surely will have a hard time but Real Madrid's future in CL is also looking dark. Although Real Madrid is known as old of the average age of the squad, they know how to get the opponent to accept their game, but they need to sign up for at least a few young superstars, such as Garnacho, Bellingham, to be able to do this again in the champions league with this squad. I don't know if bellingham will come because ancelotti made a statement that there is no need, but they definitely need a striker and a right-back. It remains an empty spot on the right. Must be a guy like reece james. The striker is also absolutely essential because in the world where all important teams getting strikers, they don't even make real transfers. Endrick will come in 1 more year. They don't even have a backup striker right now. It's like matches are now won by experience. Also against small teams. We saw them against barca, they already played badly. They really need a new man. Tchouameni better come back soon from injury too.

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Liverpool's job against Real Madrid is going to be quite difficult in my opinion. Because Liverpool are still dealing with the same problems these days. I didn't like them against Chelsea in their recent EPL match as well. Of course some important players have been injured and this has also a big affect on this form. But even when they had those players they weren't very consistent.

The scenario in the Champions League has always been different though. They have seemed like a completely different team here. But I still doubt their performance in the absence of players like Diaz and Firmino. Both players are still injured and they are even likely to miss both legs. In that case Real Madrid can increase their chance of eliminating them more.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on January 26, 2023, 08:42:56 AM

I'm not sure if this is what Graham Potter wants, or the Chelsea boss. but what is certain is that Mundryk's price tag has skyrocketed, due to Todd Boehly's participation in this transfer market. because, Chelsea brought in newcomers not based on the needs of his team. they only see young players with potential, and buy them. and this is why, I assume that the scenario behind bringing in the newcomers is none other than Todd who wants them.

I admit that Mudryk is a very talented young player, although he has yet to prove anything with Chelsea. his debut during the Liverpool match, we cannot make it a benchmark that he can adapt well. in fact, we have yet to see him play a full team with his new team. what Chelsea needed was a finishing striker, unfortunately Felix's debut with Chelsea did not go smoothly.

speaking of penalties for violating FFP, I don't really follow the developments. but what I want to know is, what will Potter do with his new arrivals and can he capitalize on this momentum, or.
On the other hand, Dortmund have played two matches in the second half of this season in their domestic league and the results are quite satisfying. however, there are still gaps and weaknesses that Edin Terzic must fix, especially the defense.

I have also asked this question a couple of times, I wonder if this transfer targets Chelsea have been chasing are Graham Potter's choices or just Todd Boehly making this selections on behalf of the coach. No doubts some of the signing made are actually talented players but I'm just curious to know if they are all Potter's selection.

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Quote from: OcTradism on January 26, 2023, 10:21:15 AM

They changed the coach position from Tuchel to Potter a few months ago and it is long enough to expect for good improvement from Potter. So far I don't see good improvement for Chelsea from Potter and lately they have gotten some new players including an expensive player Mudryk as well as a big loan of Joao Felix. I don't think it is fair to blame all bad results on Potter. Other people are responsible for the club performance too from players to his assistants and medical staffs.

To be fair we are just getting to mid season and Potter didn't become the Chelsea coach immediately the league kicked off, so far I see little improvements but I believe with the current new signings there will be some changes in the team’s performance after the window. Just like you said the responsibility of improving the team doesn't rest of the shoulder of the coach alone, every player and staff also have a role to play in improving the team

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Quote from: Fesatmas on January 27, 2023, 07:00:13 AM

Chelsea and Liverpool seem to be the center of attention now in the Champions League, yes, this is inseparable from the poor performances they have shown in the domestic league. The truth is they are a big team who have always been able to compete for the Champions League championship, but now they have a lot of doubts about what they are doing with their game not improving. This is a real impact for them, especially in the Champions League, there are many teams that have great strength to compete and become champions here.

Chelsea and Liverpool are indeed the concern of many observers because of their appearance in the domestic league which is still far from expectations. Perhaps it will be different when they.play in the Champion League although more or less the effect of their poor performance will be contagious when dealing with a team like Real Madrid who is still in a stable condition in the Spanish La Liga.

We're of the mindset that the Champions League is always full of surprises. Who knows Chelsea and Liverpool are the surprises of the Champions League musi

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Quote from: piebeyb on January 27, 2023, 07:33:29 AM

Quote from: Fesatmas on January 27, 2023, 07:00:13 AM

Chelsea and Liverpool seem to be the center of attention now in the Champions League, yes, this is inseparable from the poor performances they have shown in the domestic league. The truth is they are a big team who have always been able to compete for the Champions League championship, but now they have a lot of doubts about what they are doing with their game not improving. This is a real impact for them, especially in the Champions League, there are many teams that have great strength to compete and become champions here.

maybe one of the problems is the storm of injuries to their players so that they have to arrange a lot of strategies to deal with each of their opponents, even though their ending looks bad but slowly over time they will quickly recover and get better, there is still time before the Champions league really started and they have to clean up when it starts

If the problem is a storm of injuries then they should be able to show improvement by now, especially since they have several players brought in in the transfer market this time. The injury storm might have been one of the reasons why they had a dip in form, but that's not the main problem in my opinion. There is still time for them to play in the Champions League. But does it have to be until that game gets underway for us to see improvement in their game? Not so isn't it.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on January 27, 2023, 04:42:34 AM

I'm not a Chelsea fan but from my point of view. The problems that occur within Chelsea's body are not that simple. not only midfielders and defense. but as a whole the team, especially the front line which is not too reliable. in fact, Potter tried to make the most of his players, but Chelsea had a lot of problems. unmitigated, 9 core players of whom had to be absent due to injury. not an easy job for Potter, or for Zidan's caliber if he is in charge of Chelsea in the current situation.

Todd, trying to bring in newcomers to get around the situation that is happening within Chelsea. but what Chelsea really needs is not just new ammunition, but the chemistry and mentality that they have to build regardless of how many of their players are injured.

I see Potter has put a lot of effort in, including rotating his players plus tweaking the ideal formation for his team. however, again as I said. it's not easy, IMO maybe Chelsea will reform into a formidable team again in the next season.

I don't know much about Chelsea's internal problems so far, because basically I am the same as you.
As far as I know Chelsea haven't impressed during the new owner's switch from previous owner Roman Abramovich to Todd Boehly. Performance issues are problems we've seen so far, but of course it's difficult to put together really solid team during this transitional period.

Even though Todd Boehly squandered money to buy players, it was difficult for them to reach top performance. I know it's a complex issue, but I don't think Chelsea will be better this season but maybe next season. These new coaches and players need time, and I can't expect them to do very well in their first season.

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Napoli won 5-1 against one of the strongest teams in Serie A, Juventus. And in the next match, they will play against Roma. I would say if a Napoli team can dominate and win against Roma then I think Napoli will continue this streak in the Champions League as well. A Napoli team should not be underestimated this season. They have been performing well since the beginning of the season. After that, Napoli will play against Frankfurt in about 4 weeks. Napoli is expected to win if players do not suffer major injuries.

Napoli are currently having a great performance. All the pillars of the team are playing brilliantly and Napoli are really going for the win. But the match against Roma I think will be very strong. Because Paulo Dybala is in one of the best forms in the Roma team.

Napoli's form from round one in Serie A is amazing, and they are not taking break which is also good their first game in Champions League was also having impressive result which give them big win, and now they have good match against German Frankfurt which is also playing aggressive game and having good season in their domestic league with now chance into knock out round of the Champions League here most chances Napoli could be on track to qualify for the quarterfinal and then for me, they have strength to be in last four as well because they are playing amazing soccer and giving no chance to their opponents for having any challenge for them.

After thrashing Juventus now AS Roma is also on front for the match in next round in Serie A but most chances they could be lost this match by big margin like Napoli beats Juventus because things are completely favoring them at home.

The match between Napoli and Roma will be competitive. Because Napoli are performing well, while Roma have Paulo Dybala in one of the most form. So from my point of view the match is going to be a tough fight.

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Napoli won 5-1 against one of the strongest teams in Serie A, Juventus. And in the next match, they will play against Roma. I would say if a Napoli team can dominate and win against Roma then I think Napoli will continue this streak in the Champions League as well. A Napoli team should not be underestimated this season. They have been performing well since the beginning of the season. After that, Napoli will play against Frankfurt in about 4 weeks. Napoli is expected to win if players do not suffer major injuries.

Napoli are currently having a great performance. All the pillars of the team are playing brilliantly and Napoli are really going for the win. But the match against Roma I think will be very strong. Because Paulo Dybala is in one of the best forms in the Roma team.

Napoli's form from round one in Serie A is amazing, and they are not taking break which is also good their first game in Champions League was also having impressive result which give them big win, and now they have good match against German Frankfurt which is also playing aggressive game and having good season in their domestic league with now chance into knock out round of the Champions League here most chances Napoli could be on track to qualify for the quarterfinal and then for me, they have strength to be in last four as well because they are playing amazing soccer and giving no chance to their opponents for having any challenge for them.

After thrashing Juventus now AS Roma is also on front for the match in next round in Serie A but most chances they could be lost this match by big margin like Napoli beats Juventus because things are completely favoring them at home.

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Quote from: rby on January 27, 2023, 08:22:18 AM

I believe that Chelsea is at a better advantage to succeed in the Champions League, even though both teams are not in their best of forms, but the team facing Liverpool is much better than the team facing Chelsea.
Chelsea will always be superior to their German counterparts anytime, anywhere. But Liverpool cannot claim superiority over Real Madrid in any aspect of football.
So it is Liverpool that is in the serious mess.

But seeing Dortmund's revival in their few matches in the regular league it looks like it will be a problem for Chelsea. Moreover, the first leg match will take place at home to Dortmund, of course that will make Chelsea very depressed and the possibility of beating Dortmund is very small. When talking about Liverpool, they are in serious turmoil because seeing their opponent is Real Madrid, of course, that makes the hopes Liverpool want to continue advancing to the next round of the UCL begin to fade. But we have to wait for these 2 matches to start if we want to see the performance of these teams.

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