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Quote from: tulusikhlas on January 09, 2023, 05:47:25 AM

The question is can the 3 star players owned by Paris Saint Germain work well together in the Champions League, because their main problem that is quite visible is the lack of cooperation between them. Maybe this is a consideration for me in this match to favor Bayern Munich to win the match. Manuel Neuer is indeed the mainstay who cannot be present at this match, but I'm sure Bayern Munich will soon find a player to replace him.

First of all, the club's dream was to achieve the Champions League trophy and Galtier was given the mission to make that happen. Messi, Neymar, Mbappe, are three PSG stars who are very feared by the defense line that will be their opponent, Bayern Munich is no exception.

Don't forget, they are professional players. therefore, teamwork is paramount of all, rather than relying solely on the individual actions of each of their stars. remember, both Messi, Neymar, Mbappe will try to realize the club's dream of winning a trophy for the first time and they will try to be total by appearing all out in the round of 16 match later. remember, PSG is not Barcelona which Bayern will easily conquer.

Likewise with Bayern Munich, Galtier understands very well that his opponent this time is the strongest team in the Bundesliga. even though PSG has the MNM Trio, that doesn't mean they will easily conquer Bayern. after all, the architect of Bayern, namely Nagelssmann, will not allow PSG to win the match. so, one mistake made by one of these teams will be fatal.

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There is still a lot of time for Bayern Munich vs PSG match I think both the teams are going to be really well prepared for the match because this match is going to be really important for both of the teams.

The main factor for Bayern Munich is going to be the unavailability of Manuel Neuer. They are really in need of a younger goalkeeper and as the transfer window is live now, this is their perfect chance to get a goalkeeper for the longer run. And about PSG, if Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe are fit, they might have an edge over Munich.

PSG with Messi, Mbappe and Neymar makes me feel as PSG has more advantage of winning the match, it is unbelievable for PSG to have this three best players and lose the game very easily. Neuer played important role for Bayern Munich, if the new goalkeeper is not good enough it will be advantage to PSG to win.

The question is can the 3 star players owned by Paris Saint Germain work well together in the Champions League, because their main problem that is quite visible is the lack of cooperation between them. Maybe this is a consideration for me in this match to favor Bayern Munich to win the match. Manuel Neuer is indeed the mainstay who cannot be present at this match, but I'm sure Bayern Munich will soon find a player to replace him.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on January 08, 2023, 10:33:26 AM

There is still a lot of time for Bayern Munich vs PSG match I think both the teams are going to be really well prepared for the match because this match is going to be really important for both of the teams.

The main factor for Bayern Munich is going to be the unavailability of Manuel Neuer. They are really in need of a younger goalkeeper and as the transfer window is live now, this is their perfect chance to get a goalkeeper for the longer run. And about PSG, if Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe are fit, they might have an edge over Munich.

PSG with Messi, Mbappe and Neymar makes me feel as PSG has more advantage of winning the match, it is unbelievable for PSG to have this three best players and lose the game very easily. Neuer played important role for Bayern Munich, if the new goalkeeper is not good enough it will be advantage to PSG to win.

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Quote from: Distraction on January 08, 2023, 11:43:35 AM

From now on the Champions League is going to be really crucial for Liverpool. Because things aren't going well for them in the English Premier League at all. They are still unable to keep a consistent and good form and this is causing them to get away more from even top four. They have a significant possibility of not finishing in top four as long as they don't make a big improvement in this effort. In this case they will need to push hard for the Champions League title. I know that it is a much harder task but they need to try anyway.

Besides they have been performing more impressively in the Champions League already. If they eliminate Real Madrid in this round they will already eliminate one of the biggest contenders of the title.

This meeting is too fast in my opinion and whoever is eliminated will also benefit other teams because both of them are both strong contenders for the Champions League because both teams have pretty good statistics in this tournament.
Seeing what Liverpool get in the League and FA Cup is quite worrying that they can win and go to the phase. In the first leg Liverpool must win if they can only draw the chances of qualifying will be even harder because playing at home of opponents the pressure will be greater. Doubt they'll do better at Santiago Bernabéu if they can't handle Madrid well at Anfield.

yes, Liverpool has to get an advantage at home, at least they have to be able to win even if only 1 goal. playing at home to Madrid will not benefit Liverpool. especially with the current performance of those who tend to experience a decline.
Liverpool must take advantage of the match at home, at least they will secure the opportunity to qualify for the next phase. although Madrid is a very strong team, it will be difficult to overthrow them. but if Liverpool has a better strategy, they can win.

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Quote from: Distraction on January 08, 2023, 11:43:35 AM

From now on the Champions League is going to be really crucial for Liverpool. Because things aren't going well for them in the English Premier League at all. They are still unable to keep a consistent and good form and this is causing them to get away more from even top four. They have a significant possibility of not finishing in top four as long as they don't make a big improvement in this effort. In this case they will need to push hard for the Champions League title. I know that it is a much harder task but they need to try anyway.

Besides they have been performing more impressively in the Champions League already. If they eliminate Real Madrid in this round they will already eliminate one of the biggest contenders of the title.

This meeting is too fast in my opinion and whoever is eliminated will also benefit other teams because both of them are both strong contenders for the Champions League because both teams have pretty good statistics in this tournament.
Seeing what Liverpool get in the League and FA Cup is quite worrying that they can win and go to the phase. In the first leg Liverpool must win if they can only draw the chances of qualifying will be even harder because playing at home of opponents the pressure will be greater. Doubt they'll do better at Santiago Bernabéu if they can't handle Madrid well at Anfield.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on January 09, 2023, 01:29:27 AM

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From now on the Champions League is going to be really crucial for Liverpool. Because things aren't going well for them in the English Premier League at all. They are still unable to keep a consistent and good form and this is causing them to get away more from even top four. They have a significant possibility of not finishing in top four as long as they don't make a big improvement in this effort. In this case they will need to push hard for the Champions League title. I know that it is a much harder task but they need to try anyway.

Besides they have been performing more impressively in the Champions League already. If they eliminate Real Madrid in this round they will already eliminate one of the biggest contenders of the title.

It is so disappointing how poor Liverpool have been this season, their form is far less than their overall performance in the league last season. Liverpool cannot be called title contenders because the gap between them and the league leaders is much and we know how difficult it is go win matches even against smaller teams in the league so I expect Liverpool will shift their focus more on the Champions league and see how much they can get from it and push even harder in the league to qualify for top four at the end of the season.

I am already seeing some improvements from them in the league in their recent games,well excluding the loss against Brentford.I think they will keep up their good motivation to take every single game as a very important one and behave better in the league.

I of course see them much more focused on the Champions League where the elimination is decided in 2 games home-return ones and every team can pull out a really good performance out of such games,even small teams can do so let alone Liverpool.I see them going further in the Champions League as I believe they will show their true potential there which is much higher than what they are showing in the league.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on January 09, 2023, 01:29:27 AM

It is so disappointing how poor Liverpool have been this season, their form is far less than their overall performance in the league last season. Liverpool cannot be called title contenders because the gap between them and the league leaders is much and we know how difficult it is go win matches even against smaller teams in the league so I expect Liverpool will shift their focus more on the Champions league and see how much they can get from it and push even harder in the league to qualify for top four at the end of the season.

It's because Liverpool's key players are currently injured, you need to look on Liverpool matches in Champions League since we're discuss about this league. Everyone think Napoli will not lose against Liverpool since they're always win against other clubs in Champions League and Serie A. But Liverpool is really strong and able to beat Napoli for 2-0 in the last match.

Almost all of Liverpool players will recovered in the next month except Luis Diaz, there's a chance they could qualify for the top four, but to become a champion is high unlikely.

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Quote from: Distraction on January 08, 2023, 11:43:35 AM

From now on the Champions League is going to be really crucial for Liverpool. Because things aren't going well for them in the English Premier League at all. They are still unable to keep a consistent and good form and this is causing them to get away more from even top four. They have a significant possibility of not finishing in top four as long as they don't make a big improvement in this effort. In this case they will need to push hard for the Champions League title. I know that it is a much harder task but they need to try anyway.

Besides they have been performing more impressively in the Champions League already. If they eliminate Real Madrid in this round they will already eliminate one of the biggest contenders of the title.

It is so disappointing how poor Liverpool have been this season, their form is far less than their overall performance in the league last season. Liverpool cannot be called title contenders because the gap between them and the league leaders is much and we know how difficult it is go win matches even against smaller teams in the league so I expect Liverpool will shift their focus more on the Champions league and see how much they can get from it and push even harder in the league to qualify for top four at the end of the season.

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In the Europa league, my anticipated winners are Manchester united and Arsenal, in Epl, I see Arsenal, man united and Manchester city, in the Champions League I only sighted English teams which are Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool, and Tottenham. But as it stands now, I have already lost hope in Chelsea and Liverpool, following their poor performance in both Fa cup competition and the premier league. For now, the only English team that is up to the tax in the champion league is Manchester city, and I'm sure Guardiola will give all it takes to bring the trophy to England

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Quote from: Marvell1 on January 08, 2023, 11:35:37 AM

Yes, I agree with you that Lionel Messi plays his best football on the right wing. In the past, he used to play better in the center forward position as the false nine but in recent times he has been playing far better in the right wing as he tends to cut in and make those forward plays. Maybe keeping Kylian Mbappe as the striker and playing Neymar on the left wing and finally Lionel Messi on the right wing it's a perfect play for PSG in my opinion.

Actually, I don't think Messi's role has changed much, because when he was at Barcelona, he was also with several of his trios, such as during the Etoo, Zlatan, Villa and even Suarez eras. so over the top because it was his prime that he was able to score a lot of goals even though he played on the wing.
Age doesn't lie even though his role at PSG is still the same but what's different now is that he is more towards the initiator and supporter than trying to be a targetman.

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Quote from: Distraction on January 08, 2023, 11:43:35 AM

From now on the Champions League is going to be really crucial for Liverpool. Because things aren't going well for them in the English Premier League at all. They are still unable to keep a consistent and good form and this is causing them to get away more from even top four. They have a significant possibility of not finishing in top four as long as they don't make a big improvement in this effort. In this case they will need to push hard for the Champions League title. I know that it is a much harder task but they need to try anyway.

Besides they have been performing more impressively in the Champions League already. If they eliminate Real Madrid in this round they will already eliminate one of the biggest contenders of the title.

I didn't see Liverpool playing more impressively in the Champions League, indeed a little bit better but to say impressive, I still think about saying that. It will be very difficult for them to beat a team that has a very good record in the Champions League, moreover Real Madrid is a team that has often failed them in this Champions League. They need to work really hard to beat Real Madrid in their current state. And it seems they must have a lot of luck.

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Are you using their last few matches to judge their next move? Mbape, Messi and Hakimi were all away for the holidays, though Messi is back and hasn't played yet, as their scheduled next match is next week, probably they should all be back before the round of matches this week. Bayen did extraordinarily in their group stage and comes first but I believe if the PSG squad is complete, they will do so many things to Bayern Munich because PSG players were one of the best performing players that tush world cup, Messi, Hakimi, Neymar and Mbape are just what I don't think Bayern will send out of the round of 16 so easily.

The absence of Messi and Neymar had an impact on the team in the match with Lens, but now they are back in the game. And there is more than a month before the first match with Bayern, which is a lot of time, and by the way, Bayern have been resting all this time and the Bundesliga matches will begin only in 12 days. We need to look at the state of the teams closer to the first match, now it's too early to assess their shape, especially since Bayern still does not have official games.

Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are now popular faces in the game of football so if they don't participate in the game of football, there is not much excitement in the game of football. So when Messi and Neymar were absent in the Lens match there was little excitement and little impact on the game. But now that they are back in the game so the game will be a different excitement and fun to play again

I happy they are back from the holiday, PSG has an upper hand to win the game because of their front liners,no team will be able to stop them from scoring goals,if they have a clash. I don't think with these squad PSG will be able to reach the final stage in the league but I see them go far

All the football lovers are very happy that a player like them is again back in the game. And millions were waiting for them and they are very happy now because the game of football is not complete without them they are bringing different joy in the game of football. There are many who find football boring if they don't play. Like the World Cup game, everyone is now very eager to watch their game

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Quote from: asriloni on January 08, 2023, 10:49:51 AM

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PSG now have to play every match brilliantly. They have a lot of experienced players in their team, one of the best player in the world Lionel Messi is playing in their team. But if they can't do well this season, they've failed.

PSG has been failed so many times. It doesn't matter how many players owner by PSG but if the club was playing so bad against bayern and it will become another team that got destroyed by bayern.
Bayern itself is a professional team with so many great players but bayern's players are less popular compared with PSG. Bayern was almost kicking out PSG from UCL last year but PSG was so luck caused by it wins due to the agregat. I think that PSG must play seriously if the team wanna try to surpass the big wall that will come soon.
Bayern fully experienced in killing the movement of messi

You are right, maybe different from players owned by Bayern Munich, they are only less popular than players owned by Paris Saint Germain. But that won't be a guarantee, because I still really believe that the teamwork owned by Bayern Munich is still better than Paris Saint Germain, so that is a very, very important asset that Bayern Munich has now. This season they may have lost a sharp player in attack after Lewandowski left, but overall their goal productivity is still very good.

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I used to think that Chelsea looked so bad mainly because the level of competition in the Premier League is outrageous, but now I also doubt that Chelsea is capable of anything. Of course, I will not say that they are clearly weaker than Dortmund (it is still unknown what state this team is in after the break), but now I am sure that Chelsea are not stronger.

I don't think so. Chelsea has so many over rated players which already bought since last years but potter were not able to make them got their best performance again. The problem that happened with chelsea is the team was always rushing to buy the new player without even consider about how important such player to the club. i don't know what's wrong with chelsea but the team has been getting the worst performance.
Dortmund is even more favourable in this match. The inconsistency that already showed by chelsea has been triggering so many questions to the club.
Dortmund in so many advantage against chelsea. that will be so good for the team

At the moment, Chelsea is playing City again and the score after the first half is already 3-0 in favor of City. Let it be the FA Cup and let Chelsea not play in the best lineup, but I have to admit that they are unacceptably weak. Zero shots on target.
If nothing changes then Dortmund will really easily beat them (if Dortmund themselves don't fail like they like to do lol).

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I wouldn't say that Dortmund are no match for Chelsea now. Because we aren't watching the same old Chelsea anymore. Of course they have been better in the Champions League comparing to the English Premier League. But still they will need to make a big effort to be able to eliminate Dortmund. Despite Chelsea's being the favourite I still don't feel like Dortmund will give up so easily.
I know what Chelsea did to Milan in the group stage. But Dortmund can play better than Milan against them actually.

Dortmund is far stronger compared with chelsea. Even if chelsea was doing a bit better in the champion league and it's pure caused by luck. I will not underestimate chelsea but chelsea was getting easy club unlike another team which was competing in the difficult club. You can imagine once chelsea would be entering into the hard club and then im sure chelsea will not able to be qualified for the last 16.
The problem is if chelsea keeps showing the bad performance like this and i can't even imagine how bad chelsea in the match against dortmund. Chelsea's performance looks like a small team right now.
Hundreds millions wasted for nothing now

I have to admit that I didn't watch Chelsea's matches in the English league, but I did in the Champions League because they were in the same group as Dinamo.
The first two games they were very bad and last in the group, but then they changed the coach and won all the games in the group until the end.
They were particularly impressive against Milan, one of the leading teams in the Italian league.
Based on that, I think Chelsea have a very real chance against Dortmund and should not be underestimated.

I think the main difference between Chelsea and Dortmund is the chemistry between the players. I think that Dortmund players have better chemistry among themselves compared to that Chelsea. Another thing Chelsea lacks is the striker's position as I do not think they have a consistent goal scorer.

I personally really love the play style of Dortmund as they press really high up on the pitch and their attacks are really fast and accurate. Overall I think we are up for a really competitive game of football.

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Quote from: Distraction on January 08, 2023, 11:43:35 AM

From now on the Champions League is going to be really crucial for Liverpool. Because things aren't going well for them in the English Premier League at all. They are still unable to keep a consistent and good form and this is causing them to get away more from even top four. They have a significant possibility of not finishing in top four as long as they don't make a big improvement in this effort. In this case they will need to push hard for the Champions League title. I know that it is a much harder task but they need to try anyway.

Besides they have been performing more impressively in the Champions League already. If they eliminate Real Madrid in this round they will already eliminate one of the biggest contenders of the title.

But the fact is that Real Madrid is a team that is difficult for Liverpool to beat because even when last season Liverpool were in their best performance and form but Liverpool still couldn't beat Real Madrid. What's more this season Liverpool have to overcome their main problems in the Premier League and with that, I personally don't believe Liverpool will beat Real Madrid.
Talking about winning the Champions League title is something very big and difficult to achieve, at least a team that has a great chance of getting the Champions League title is a team that is also great in the local league.

So yes, I think it seems that Liverpool no longer have any hope of being able to play in the Champions League next season, this is of course bad because Liverpool are still being coached by a great coach who has been at Liverpool for a long time.
Because when compared to Chelsea, I think it's normal, because Chelsea is indeed undergoing a reshuffle. But for Liverpool, this season has indeed been a bad season for Liverpool, maybe in all competitions.

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Graham Potter actually took over Chelsea in a bad place. It was a bit of his bad luck. Dortmund is an opponent they can knock out. Their situation in the league is not encouraging. However, let's not forget that they were not in a very good position in the league the year they won the champions league, with a little luck, they can show success in the champions league again.

A little doubtful that Chelsea will be easy against Dortmund, in fact Dortmund have not appeared very strong this season, but the current situation for these two teams is equally bad this season, this season Chelsea did not perform as well as when they won the champions league, significant changes have changed Chelsea this season, and since Chelsea under Tuchel's tutelage I think a lot of the team's performance has decreased.
Now Graham Potter has replaced Tuchel and wants to bring/revive Chelsea to the better, but what we've seen is not consistent improvement..

Maybe for this season I doubt Chelsea will continue to the next round, Chelsea and Dortmund have a balanced percentage of winning their matches in the upcoming matches. In my opinion, in terms of improving the performance of the Chelsea team, they have to get new players who are good in material.
and with some injuries I think it will be difficult for Chelsea to beat Dortmund, unless luck is on Chelsea's side.

I think Dortmund should be worried about facing Chelsea. Three seasons ago I would clearly predict Dortmund to win without consideration but this season Dortmund have not been in good shape, Chelsea also have been struggling but I think Chelsea's performance is better than that of Dortmund, also English teams have a records of beating German teams more in the Champions league so I think Chelsea have upper hand in this game.

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From now on the Champions League is going to be really crucial for Liverpool. Because things aren't going well for them in the English Premier League at all. They are still unable to keep a consistent and good form and this is causing them to get away more from even top four. They have a significant possibility of not finishing in top four as long as they don't make a big improvement in this effort. In this case they will need to push hard for the Champions League title. I know that it is a much harder task but they need to try anyway.

Besides they have been performing more impressively in the Champions League already. If they eliminate Real Madrid in this round they will already eliminate one of the biggest contenders of the title.

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Quote from: asriloni on January 08, 2023, 10:49:51 AM

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PSG now have to play every match brilliantly. They have a lot of experienced players in their team, one of the best player in the world Lionel Messi is playing in their team. But if they can't do well this season, they've failed.

PSG has been failed so many times. It doesn't matter how many players owner by PSG but if the club was playing so bad against bayern and it will become another team that got destroyed by bayern.
Bayern itself is a professional team with so many great players but bayern's players are less popular compared with PSG. Bayern was almost kicking out PSG from UCL last year but PSG was so luck caused by it wins due to the agregat. I think that PSG must play seriously if the team wanna try to surpass the big wall that will come soon.
Bayern fully experienced in killing the movement of messi

Well psg might be favorited to win this clash.

But yeah bayern have a more solid team work despite they are a bit struggling in the early season ... bayern remain a huge threat for them , missing neuer at the goalkeeping post become the biggest loss for bayern .. no wonder if the bookies put psg on the favorite side.

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A slight overhaul of Lionel Messi's position will make PSG sharper in building attacks, in my opinion placing Lionel Messi slightly below Neymar and Kylian Mbappe will be more optimal in attacking and controlling the game, because Lionel Messi has an advantage in dribbling before giving measurable passes or before scoring

I get where you're coming from but you are wrong. Messi plays his best football from the right wing. He cuts in from the right wing, dribbles and gives a sublime pass or shoots. If they play with that formation you're suggesting against Bayern they'll lose. They need their wings against Bayern. Neymar running at them from the left ad Messi running at them from the right while Mbappe is doing that up front. Besides PSG have a very good midfield now with the inclusion of Fabian Ruiz. He's very technical just like Verratti.
In a team like PSG, Messi should have no business playing as a supporting striker for two reasons, and this is aside the fact that Messi is at his best in the right wing.
1. If you take Messi behind Neymer and Mbappe that means you're playing with two attackers which will make the wing not as effective as it should. This would give the Full backs of the opposing team more freedom to attack
2. If you still want to play with 3 attackers while Messi plays behind them then your midfielders will be down to 2 which is a disadvantage.

Yes, I agree with you that Lionel Messi plays his best football on the right wing. In the past, he used to play better in the center forward position as the false nine but in recent times he has been playing far better in the right wing as he tends to cut in and make those forward plays. Maybe keeping Kylian Mbappe as the striker and playing Neymar on the left wing and finally Lionel Messi on the right wing it's a perfect play for PSG in my opinion.

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