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Quote from: izsara on October 30, 2022, 11:48:53 AM

Actually I'm not too sure for Marseille, They can indeed do that but with their current condition and with the results of their losing streak it's definitely not going to be easier than imagined especially in this match actually Tottenham only need a draw for them to qualify for the knockout stages. next.
Conte certainly will not let their chances of qualifying go to waste.

Marseille are in poor form in Ligue 1, they are winless in the last four matches. With the unfavorable conditions experienced by Marseille, Tottenham should not underestimate Marseille. All teams that join group D still have a chance to qualify for the round of 16, Marseille will struggle in the last match to get a ticket to the last 16. On paper Tottenham can win the game, Antonio Conte's squad is tougher than Marseille. Anything can happen in this match, Marseille will fight to give the best performance in this life and death match.

Of course, underestimating is one thing that must be avoided especially until now Tottenham still cannot replace the performance of Richalrison and Kulusevski who are still absent and of course they are not strong enough in midfield with the absence of these two players.
I hope Conte gets a good scheme in this match at least if it is difficult Son should be in a comfortable position rather than forcing to be alone up front with Kane he is better at playing behind Kane.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 31, 2022, 09:45:57 AM

If you look at the current group class, the most interesting is group D. Four teams still have a chance to qualify and fail. Their points are only at odds of the two biggest. If they beat each other then all is still open. Maybe even Tottenham could not qualify if they lost.
And the matches
1. Marseille vs Tottenham
2. Sporting CP vs Eintracht Frankfrut

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The only group where everybody still jave equal chance to qualify.

The match is indeed now or never match, losing is not an option but a draw for tottenham and sporting cp is enough as long as both get draw ... the current position will remain the same.
This group has equal quality as well so yeah no woner

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Quote from: Luzin on October 31, 2022, 09:45:57 AM

If you look at the current group class, the most interesting is group D. Four teams still have a chance to qualify and fail. Their points are only at odds of the two biggest. If they beat each other then all is still open. Maybe even Tottenham could not qualify if they lost.
And the matches
1. Marseille vs Tottenham
2. Sporting CP vs Eintracht Frankfrut

Source: google.com

I don't know why in this case I prefer the away team in these two matches because it is clear from the condition that they are also the favorite.
But indeed Frankfurt is actually a club full of surprises in my opinion and Marseille also despite their poor form in Ligue 1 and currently being caretaker can make something that can indeed make this difficult to predict.
But even so I still believe in Tottenham and Sporting for now.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 31, 2022, 09:45:57 AM

If you look at the current group class, the most interesting is group D. Four teams still have a chance to qualify and fail. Their points are only at odds of the two biggest. If they beat each other then all is still open. Maybe even Tottenham could not qualify if they lost.
And the matches
1. Marseille vs Tottenham
2. Sporting CP vs Eintracht Frankfrut

This really is the most interesting group of them all and even right after the draw i already though that the teams of this group are pretty balanced in terms of the quality. Tottenham was the clear favorite for me before the season started but they had some matches where they just did not perform at their maximum possible level. I am also surprised that Eintracht Frankfurt is doing so well in this group. I mean they were already a big underdog last year in the Europa League but they somehow managed to win it. This year they are a even bigger underdog in the Champions League but they still have a chance to reach the knockout stage. My guess for the final table would be: 1. Tottenham, 2. Sporting, 3. Frankfurt, 4. Marseille.

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Quote from: jostorres on October 30, 2022, 04:26:31 PM

For me Real Madrid, Manchester City, PSG and Liverpool are strong enough for having title this year because these all are doing good job and have good experienced players as well.

Liverpool shoudn't be in that conversation, they aren't even the first in their group and have been on some bad form this season. Mo Salah is a shadow of himself as this is probably his worst season so far since he came into the spotlight especially as a Liverpool player. Chelsea should be substituted for Liverpool as although they aren't that convincing strong contenders but they can pull a shocker as they usually do when they have won this competition. Liverpool plays group leaders Napoli tomorrow and Napoli has an advantage over them, firstly they're ahead in the head to head games between both clubs and Napoli striker, Victor Osimhen is on a form of his life scoring goals back to back.

Napoli wins that game tomorrow and Liverpool comes second in their group which would definitely harden their title challenge as they play other group leaders. Frankly speaking, I thought Liverpool would be out of the tournament by now so they can focused on the premier league and try to get something from there this season because hey have no shot at the champions league this season. Manchester city and PSG gets a shot at winning the title this season and I think nobody is stopping those two club not even the kings of come back, Real Madrid.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 31, 2022, 09:45:57 AM

If you look at the current group class, the most interesting is group D. Four teams still have a chance to qualify and fail. Their points are only at odds of the two biggest. If they beat each other then all is still open. Maybe even Tottenham could not qualify if they lost.
And the matches
1. Marseille vs Tottenham
2. Sporting CP vs Eintracht Frankfrut

Source: google.com

This group I have also said before is a group that will still fight until the last matchday in the group stage, even in yesterday's match when Eintracht Frankfurt were still bottom with only four points. I said, that Eintracht Frankfurt will still try hard to win and beat Marseille because after all, Eintracht Frankfurt can still catch up because the top-ranked teams also don't have a very wide gap.

But for the last matchday, Eintracht Frankfurt will play away against Sporting, and I'm starting to doubt Eintracht Frankfurt. Since even Sporting were able to win away in their first match against Eintracht Frankfurt with a score of 3-0, it's obviously a big score.
That way, in my prediction at this moment Tottenham and Sporting will win in the last match of this group, so maybe their current position in the standings will still be the final position for them.

If so, then Eintracht Frankfurt will continue to play in the Europa League. But for Marseille, in fact Marseille is also difficult to be consistent in Ligue 1, it looks like it will have an impact on the final result in the group stage in this Champions League. Because in the last match, Marseille will have to play against Tottenham, which is better in quality than Eintracht Frankfurt.

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If you look at the current group class, the most interesting is group D. Four teams still have a chance to qualify and fail. Their points are only at odds of the two biggest. If they beat each other then all is still open. Maybe even Tottenham could not qualify if they lost.
And the matches
1. Marseille vs Tottenham
2. Sporting CP vs Eintracht Frankfrut

Source: google.com

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This game may not be in favour of Juventus because of their key players that will not be playing the game due to injuries. Juventus have been struggling this season because of this condition. I know this game will be a win for PSG knowing the kind of players they have and their squad.

Juventus doesn't even need to play again PSG caused by it's already confirmed that juventus will be going to the europa league. Im thinking about juventus will be also the same like barcelona. Juventus's player know his team has no chance. They can even do walk out rather than try to play against PSG. I don't even think juventus will play seriously caused by juventus know its position. I think that this may be happen very soon.
PSG will be actually winning the match against juventus.

Juventus position is not fully safe because they have equal points with Maccabi Haifa and what i fear is because Benfica already qualified and if Benfica playing used some of their reserved players then it giving Maccabi Haifa chances to stole points from them and that's why to secured their position Juventus should be taking this match seriously because if they lose from PSG but Maccabi Haifa can able to draw with Benfica then Juventus will finish at 4th and failed to Europa league so to secured their position Juventus at least aiming 1 point from PSG and this won't be easy because PSG performance on champion league is quite impressived with unbeatable from 5 recent matches

Even though there is no chance of qualifying for the next meeting with PSG, and in addition to the number of players who have been injured, the coach Massimiliano Allegri will get used to the young players to develop in Massimiliano Allegri's scheme, at least it will make the defense against PSG attacks in the past. the last meeting of the upcoming group qualifying, at least Juventua can steal a goal in that match to secure a ticket to the Europa League, even though it's difficult at least it can be seen in the Juventus match against Lecce, Juventus young players were very impressive in the match that night, even though only narrow win..

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Quote from: makishart on October 31, 2022, 07:02:24 AM

Quote from: Gosgosking on October 30, 2022, 11:01:54 PM

This game may not be in favour of Juventus because of their key players that will not be playing the game due to injuries. Juventus have been struggling this season because of this condition. I know this game will be a win for PSG knowing the kind of players they have and their squad.

Juventus doesn't even need to play again PSG caused by it's already confirmed that juventus will be going to the europa league. Im thinking about juventus will be also the same like barcelona. Juventus's player know his team has no chance. They can even do walk out rather than try to play against PSG. I don't even think juventus will play seriously caused by juventus know its position. I think that this may be happen very soon.
PSG will be actually winning the match against juventus.

Juventus position is not fully safe because they have equal points with Maccabi Haifa and what i fear is because Benfica already qualified and if Benfica playing used some of their reserved players then it giving Maccabi Haifa chances to stole points from them and that's why to secured their position Juventus should be taking this match seriously because if they lose from PSG but Maccabi Haifa can able to draw with Benfica then Juventus will finish at 4th and failed to Europa league so to secured their position Juventus at least aiming 1 point from PSG and this won't be easy because PSG performance on champion league is quite impressived with unbeatable from 5 recent matches

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Maybe 2-0 is too ultimatum to play in Liverpool, but after yesterday's results where Napoli beat the strong Sassuolo 4-0, and Liverpool lost at home to an outsider, I can easily believe it. Napoli will have a large margin of safety in this game so Liverpool have no chance in their current form. It will be good if they at least do not embarrass themselves greatly in front of their fans.

Klopp already mentioned that he believes his players might be overwhelmed and overstrained at the moment. I think that Liverpool won't go all out in the second leg against Napoli and just take it as it is with the second spot in the group. Of course that means they could immediately meet one of those big favorites, but is it worth it at this point and in their situation to try and beat Napoli 5-1? That is not going to happen. 4-1 is not even enough because of the goal stats of Napoli. Liverpool is in dire straits right now and instead of winning against Napoli they are well advised to get back on track in the PL. As Klopp said, this way they are not going to be part of the CL next year...

Speaking purely mathematically, firstly, the Champions League playoffs will take place after a long break (World Cup) and by the beginning of it a lot can change both in Liverpool and the opponents. Secondly, if Liverpool don't meet a strong opponent in the 1/8 they will meet it in the 1/4 (I don't believe in the same luck for them as last season) and there is no point in gaining something here. Therefore, the Premier League is now the top priority, because if you continue to lose points now, you can also lose the chance to get into the top 4. All this suggests that the Liverpool-Napoli game will be similar to a friendly but given the shape of Napoli they will be big favourites.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on October 30, 2022, 11:01:54 PM

This game may not be in favour of Juventus because of their key players that will not be playing the game due to injuries. Juventus have been struggling this season because of this condition. I know this game will be a win for PSG knowing the kind of players they have and their squad.

Juventus doesn't even need to play again PSG caused by it's already confirmed that juventus will be going to the europa league. Im thinking about juventus will be also the same like barcelona. Juventus's player know his team has no chance. They can even do walk out rather than try to play against PSG. I don't even think juventus will play seriously caused by juventus know its position. I think that this may be happen very soon.
PSG will be actually winning the match against juventus.

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PSG are stronger, but in the first match, Juventus did not play badly and even had chances to draw. In the second match, everything will depend on how much Juventus wants to continue their participation in the LE. Benfica will try to beat Maccabi and PSG will want to stay in first place. Alegre may want to beat PSG, it will raise his profile, it will also add confidence to the Juventus players, but can they do it? If we evaluate the squards of the teams, then there is no chance for Juventus, PSG is much stronger in this.

I believe that PSG will win the game against Juventus, thus guaranteeing the first place in the group. Despite that Juventus will try to win the game to still be able to guarantee the Europa League. But, I believe they have no arguments to fight for victory.

Benfica, on the other hand, will also want to win to try for first place, even looking to score many goals, as this could be a tiebreaker.

The Juventus today is not the Juventus we knew a few seasons ago when they were able to become one of the favorite teams in the Champions League. This time they were very different from all existing forms. Paris Saint Germain is one of the favorites to win the title, so I also have the same view that Paris Saint Germain will win in their meeting with Juventus. Like it or not, Juventus is in a bad state right now.

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PSG will still be looking for a win in this match to be able to secure 1st place in Group H standings and so is Juventus but if you look at the performance and quality of these two teams, of course, it is very unlikely that Juventus can beat PSG, especially now Juventus still can't get out of the league. poor performance and they have also ensured themselves failed to qualify for the round of 16.

it will be an unbalanced game, PSG will be able to win easily I think.

PSG are stronger, but in the first match, Juventus did not play badly and even had chances to draw. In the second match, everything will depend on how much Juventus wants to continue their participation in the LE. Benfica will try to beat Maccabi and PSG will want to stay in first place. Alegre may want to beat PSG, it will raise his profile, it will also add confidence to the Juventus players, but can they do it? If we evaluate the squards of the teams, then there is no chance for Juventus, PSG is much stronger in this.

PSG's current condition when compared to Juventus is clear they are much better.
Schematic problems, finances and the number of core injuries for Juventus are not in their favor, so it will be very difficult for them to face PSG with the current conditions.
They allow only to draw because to win with their current condition is clearly very unpredictable.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on October 31, 2022, 03:25:40 AM

PSG are stronger, but in the first match, Juventus did not play badly and even had chances to draw. In the second match, everything will depend on how much Juventus wants to continue their participation in the LE. Benfica will try to beat Maccabi and PSG will want to stay in first place. Alegre may want to beat PSG, it will raise his profile, it will also add confidence to the Juventus players, but can they do it? If we evaluate the squards of the teams, then there is no chance for Juventus, PSG is much stronger in this.

I believe that PSG will win the game against Juventus, thus guaranteeing the first place in the group. Despite that Juventus will try to win the game to still be able to guarantee the Europa League. But, I believe they have no arguments to fight for victory.

Benfica, on the other hand, will also want to win to try for first place, even looking to score many goals, as this could be a tiebreaker.

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PSG will still be looking for a win in this match to be able to secure 1st place in Group H standings and so is Juventus but if you look at the performance and quality of these two teams, of course, it is very unlikely that Juventus can beat PSG, especially now Juventus still can't get out of the league. poor performance and they have also ensured themselves failed to qualify for the round of 16.

it will be an unbalanced game, PSG will be able to win easily I think.

PSG are stronger, but in the first match, Juventus did not play badly and even had chances to draw. In the second match, everything will depend on how much Juventus wants to continue their participation in the LE. Benfica will try to beat Maccabi and PSG will want to stay in first place. Alegre may want to beat PSG, it will raise his profile, it will also add confidence to the Juventus players, but can they do it? If we evaluate the squards of the teams, then there is no chance for Juventus, PSG is much stronger in this.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on October 30, 2022, 10:53:40 PM

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You can already bet on a probable easy win for PSG against Juventus.
I think it is a record, Juventus so far will have 12 fewer players for injuries. Huh

PSG is already qualified but need a win to be sure to be in 1st position and in the firs draw urn for the final stage, so...

I think, PSG are in a good position to win this match with many goals to move to first position in the UEFA champions league table to make their fans happy. PSG strikers are very strong in this season to do everything possible within their power to make the team unbeatable in their remaining matches to give their coach hope of winning this season title. Juventus cannot stop PSG not to embrace victory from this match, because some of their players are still experiencing injury, which will be the advantage PSG will use to achieve points from the match.

As you said, PSG has a very high probability of winning the battle later. SPG's chance to get full points in this match, is greater than the home team. it seems, SPG is more ready to play the match at the Allianz Stadium, the headquarters of Juventus.
Galtier, targeting 3 points to solidify their ranking as the leader in group H

Unfavorable fate for the home team, because Juventus are also eyeing a win to maintain hope of appearing in the Europa League. but unfortunately, many of their players were injured and that's what made the Bianconeri squad play with a very poor performance.

on the other hand, Bencifa has the potential to be the leader of this group H.
they also have a great chance to overthrow Maccabi, even though this match is an away game. So, I think next week's match in Group H will be very interesting.

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I will not say that the Barcelona team is not strong. Barcelona's team is strong enough. They have a lot of talented players in their squad. But the problem is that it is very difficult to make predictions about Barcelona's performance. Because there is no consistency in their performance. Barcelona does not perform well against big teams. Barcelona has several weaknesses. It is a shame that a renowned team like Barcelona will be eliminated from the Champions League in the first round. Xavi will definitely want to perform well in the Europa League and La Liga. I think if Barcelona's defence is strong they will be able to win the La Liga title.

Right now, Barcelona is under development, and they are doing good work in La Liga, but sadly they badly fail in Champions League with mostly fans saying in this season Xavi's main focus is La Liga so just because of this they are unable to have positive results in Champions League, but they can improve performance in coming season, and we can expect better results from them but in this season most chances they are looking for champions of Spain with La Liga title even this is not easy because right now Real Madrid is having three points lead and their performance is also solid which is surely big positive point for them and Barcelona has to done amazing job if they want to win any title in coming days.

Bayern has very well demonstrated that Barcelona isn't ready yet for the big stages. They are doing well in La Liga, that is true, but I don't see them on par with teams like Manchester City, PSG or Real Madrid yet (as we have seen in the clásico). Barcelona might need to sign one or two outstandingly strong players for their defense. They could be running into financial issues though especially when they can only play the EL now.

This year's final round will again be extremely exciting I think. PSG is in great shape, Manchester City is always ready and Real Madrid is very strong as their offense is now stable and well established. Vinicius Junior is getting better and better, great speed and also getting more efficient with time passing by as that was one of his issues and he can still improve. I don't think that Benzema can reach his level from last season once more, but he is still very important for decisive goals.

My eyes are on PSG and City for now. Both of them are eagerly waiting and working towards their final breakthrough.

Not only in that match with Bayern, but also in the matches against Real and Inter, it was seen that the Barcelona team is not at the highest level and that it is not yet ready to win the Champions League, and probably not even the title of the champion of Spain.
I'm actually quite surprised that Atletico, Sevilla and Juventus didn't make it to the knockout phase of the Champions League either.
This season, the competition in the European league will be very strong and uncertain.
As for the Champions League, the main candidates for the title are Real, Bayern, Manchester City and PSG.

Maybe you are a bit too harsh on Barcelona here because the first game between Bayern and Barcelona could have gone either way. It ended with a bit of luck in favor of Bayern.

It is hard to judge yet whether Barcelona has a chance to win the La Liga title. I think they can for as long as they keep their players healthy, but it will be a close head to head race with Real Madrid until the very last moment I can imagine. At times Madrid also loses some points here and there, but probably not very often. That is when Barcelona has to score their points for certain.

What is absolutely impressive at the moment is Barcelona's defense. They just had their 10th! game with a clean sheet. That is probably a record in Spain after 12 games? I would think so, but didn't look into the history regarding clean sheets. Nevertheless, that is an impressive achievement and if they can keep up that quality defense they will necessarily be a candidate to win the La Liga title.

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The opportunity for Tottenham is greater than Marseille, so it can be said that the burden on Tottenham will not be too big considering they only need 1 point to ensure themselves qualify from competition in this group D. Marseille have failed to win in their 4 matches in all competitions in Ligue 1 and in the Champions League. Although Tottenham also suffered the same fate but they bring good capital because they can win in their last match when they travel to Bournemouth headquarters. Just like you, I myself prefer Tottenham to be favorites to qualify for the next round.

All the teams in Group D have the potential to qualify for the round of 16. And so I don't think it will be easy for Tottenham to qualify for the next round. If Marseille can beat Tottenham, Marseille have a chance of qualifying for the round of 16. So even though Tottenham are at the top of the table, I don't think it will be easy for Tottenham to win against Marseille. However, Marseille's players are a bit off form right now. Marseille's performance in both Ligue 1 and Champions League is now unstable.

as I said before they only need one point to qualify, meaning they have to anticipate and if they want to play it safe they just need to keep securing the defense so the game is a draw.
But indeed in Conte's case playing it safe is clearly not in his style of play so even if a draw can take them to the next round it is clear they will not want that so indeed they will definitely play as usual.
Personally, looking at Marseille's current condition, it's not something that is difficult enough for Tottenham to do.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on October 30, 2022, 10:53:40 PM

I think, PSG are in a good position to win this match with many goals to move to first position in the UEFA champions league table to make their fans happy. PSG strikers are very strong in this season to do everything possible within their power to make the team unbeatable in their remaining matches to give their coach hope of winning this season title. Juventus cannot stop PSG not to embrace victory from this match, because some of their players are still experiencing injury, which will be the advantage PSG will use to achieve points from the match.

The performance of the Juventus team is completely erratic. But I wouldn't say their defense is weak. Juventus conceded only 7 goals in Serie A this season. PSG's attack is very strong. Even so, breaking Juventus' defense will not be easy for them. My prediction is that PSG will win this match very narrowly, otherwise, the match will be a draw. It is very difficult to win against Juventus by a big margin.

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If Benfica can make at least for six goals and PSG only score one goal, Benfica will overtake PSG's position, but I think Benfica already happy with their current condition.

Benfica managed to qualify for the knockout round despite having a strong team like Juventus in the group. I think they are happy with that. Benfica's performance was very good. They did not lose even one of the 5 matches. They had a very good performance.
But I don't think they are too keen to go top of the table. They are still 4 goals behind PSG. But Benfica has a chance to top the table. Because PSG's opponent Juventus' performance in the last match was erratic, but they are not weak. It is also difficult to predict that PSG will definitely win this match. If somehow PSG lose or draw, and Benfica manage to get full points against Maccabi Haifa, PSG will move into second place in the table.

Benfica had their effort work for them. As it stands the share the same point with PSG and playing against Maccabi Haifa should be another easy win for them. If they could draw PSG twice in the group stage it means they came well prepared for the champions league and we should be expecting a strong resistance from their squad as the league progress.

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