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You know, I was just thinking about the way people sing Guardiola's praises. I mean, sure, he's a whiz when it comes to strategies and game reading - but that doesn't mean he's the only one in this game with smarts! Let's consider Mourinho and Ancelotti for a moment. They've helmed more teams than Guardiola and not all of them were top-of-the-line clubs. They've got battle scars, man! They’ve played the game in the mud and the dirt and the grime! Has Pep ever done that?

Of course, I'm not saying Guardiola isn't talented. But hey, maybe he's just lucky. Like the guy who always lands on a pile of hay when he falls off a building. Wouldn’t you want to see him try to perform his magic with a less star-studded team?
I know what you mean and you have a point, the Barcelona which was coached by Guardiola was one of the best teams that we have ever seen in the entire history of soccer, and while Guardiola had something to do with it, was it so difficult to coach a bunch of players which won the world cup and a Messi which was on his prime? I do not think so, however it is unlikely we will ever see Guardiola coaching one of those teams unless he tries to do this as a way to challenge himself.
I don't know if Pep Guardiola is lucky because he coaches a team that has great players or if Pep Guardiola himself is a talented coach.

But I think Pep Guardiola tends to have both. i.e. he is talented as well as lucky. Pep Guardiola also did not immediately start from a big club. Early in his career he started from club Barcelona B. and maybe because he was talented, in less than a year he was immediately made the coach of the Barcelona core team.

And Pep Has the award as the best coach in FIFA. and I think FIFA is also not arbitrary in selecting the best coach candidates. and Pep deserved it. Barcelona even has many trophies in one season simultaneously while coached by Pep. In essence, he is able to make a team win trophies in several competitions at the same time in the same season. and I think it's not easy.

but it would be very interesting if Pep was tested to coach a small club or a club that is not so great. I'm also curious.
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He's just a lucky coach, he always join a strong team and the team willing to extend his contract for many years. I would say Mourinho and Ancelotti are more experienced than Guardiola, both of them have managed various teams although not all of them are successful. But at least they both have struggle experience during manage a mediocre team, Guardiola is always coached all star players.
I do agree with you. I never seen him coaching the small clubs. He has been getting good result when pep was still on the barcelona but it will be so good to see him coaching the weak clubs without good financial.
As far as i know that if pep has always been coaching some big clubs in europa like bayern, barcelona and this time manchester city. It's not the same like mourinho which was always coaching big or small clubs.
We may be able to see pep to be a coach for a small club when his age becomes even older than this time.

It will be a huge challenge for pep. Im willing to see him managing the club in bad condition. The luckiest coach this century.
Currently, Pep Guardiola is 52 years old and his contract with Manchester City is going to end after two years 2025 which mean he could be 54 and his ten years will be left for having as coach for me most chances he will never go for any lower rank club because in last 15 years he coach Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Manchester City with most chances his contact will be extended which will allow him for more trophies here and then leave for better chance who know at PSG or any higher rank club which give him same luxury which he uses for at Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Manchester City which makes him one of the best coach in soccer.

Here we can't compare coaches but still things are looking interesting for him with his amazing history as coach, and he holds record of six trophies in one season with Barcelona can repeat here at Manchester City is surely going to happen even this all is too early, but things like these can happen because he is skilled and good coach of current era.
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That's why Pep Guardiola is always in demand by big clubs. because he has a vision and mission to build a strong team to be stronger. apart from that Pep is a coach who is rich in tactics, he has what other coaches don't have. So, if you say Pep is just lucky, you are wrong. because, if you understand a little bit about the system, the tactics and what he showed City. you will find out how smart and brilliant a Pep Guardiola is.

Unfortunately, with City he has not been able to win the Champions League trophy. however, this season, Pep Guardiola has the opportunity to return to bring his team to win a trophy that has always been the target of Manchester City and at the same time has the potential to win a treble winner. if, Pep Guardiola is able to make it happen, he will make history for himself as a coach who has won a treble winner with two different clubs.
IMO, I will say, that Pep is much better than Jose Mourinho and also Ancelotti.

Pep Guardiola's huge success at FC Barcelona made him to one of the most wanted coaches on the planet and even his 3 years at Bayern Munich were very successful in my opinion because the team played great. At Bayern he was very unlucky in the Champions League because they went out 2 times against Atletico Madrid even though they were the better team in both cases.
A Champions League win with Manchester City is not that big of an accomplishment though i think. I mean ManCity is just one of those toy clubs that is owned by a sheikh for fun and so far he has already invested more than 1,8 Billion € into the club which is a crazy high number.
I dislike clubs like that, but there is no doubt that ManCity is the best club at the moment.
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The current Manchester City team are soaring high on a different level this season, if they have been good in previous seasons they are certainly better this season and this season they have a chance at the Champions league trophy this season. Do you think they can make it this time or probably botch it in favour of Inter Milan? I really hope not.
Manchester City team has been very good for the past few seasons in the Champions League. It is not this season alone that they are good or better. In fact, I want to bring to your remembrance that last season's Champions League, despite that Manchester City crashed out at the semi-finals, they still won the best team of the Champions League last season. This is to tell you how committed and how consistent Manchester city has been.
This time around, I sincerely believe that they will transform their form to win and become the champions of the Europe.
Manchester city is one of the team that has been able to maintain good and standard performance.  Manchester City performance was so good last season in the Champions league just that they were not lucky to win it, even at that they still didn't give up in their dreams to win the Champions league,  this another opportunity Pep Guardiola won't lose. I'm very sure Manchester city has the best strategy to get this victory from Inter Milan. I don't think it will be tough for Manchester city in the finals against inter.
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Especially in the final? What are you talking about, they were in the final 13 years ago, and don't compare experience, you look at the physical stats of the teams. Manchester City are three heads above and stronger than Inter... I didn't see anything special in their game against Milan, who have been performing mildly underwhelming this season.
Of course I know that Manchester City's performance and their hard work to reach the final this season are much better and harder than Inter. I agree that Manchester City are the favorites to win the title, but considering this is football, experience and Inter's chances and confidence to win titles cannot be ignored either.

Inter are not the favourites, their form has been unstable but it is still very reasonable to think that Inter also have chance in the final. Manchester City cannot take Inter lightly for any reason even though Inter's players today are no longer the same as when they won titles in the past.

If you look at it from that point of view, then yes, of course, Inter have every chance of winning, but I look at the state of the team as well as their strength, on these indicators for me MS is much stronger. But we'll see what happens. It's a pity the finals are still some time away.
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It's not as if Guardiola is just lucky. The statistics say that Guardiola was able to win various championships 11 times in 14 seasons as a coach in the top 5 leagues. That's a fantastic achievement.

In fact, he has now taken Manchester City to another level and has been able to set new achievements in it. He has been able to become champion with City 5 times in the last 7 years, and how many players have been able to progress under Guardiola cannot be counted. Before that, he was able to become champion with Barcelona for 3 of the 4 years he coached the team.

All in all he is a Top coach, one of the best, if not the best at the moment.
By comparison, before City started all this run, they had no titles ever before, after this run they are the team with second most premier league titles, imagine how good you have to become in order to change it from worst to second best. I think they are going to fight for the top spot there too, the team with the most titles.

Obviously it will take some time but I bet that they will get there, it is just matter of time and looking at how good their younger players are as well, they could replace old ones one by one and they will be able to get a lot better in the end and still keep on getting the title. Pep is definitely doing a wonderful job but lets see how long he will do that, will he go for another 10 titles? His age is alright for that, he can certainly manage at least another 10 years, but will he do that at City? We do not know.
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You know, I was just thinking about the way people sing Guardiola's praises. I mean, sure, he's a whiz when it comes to strategies and game reading - but that doesn't mean he's the only one in this game with smarts! Let's consider Mourinho and Ancelotti for a moment. They've helmed more teams than Guardiola and not all of them were top-of-the-line clubs. They've got battle scars, man! They’ve played the game in the mud and the dirt and the grime! Has Pep ever done that?

Of course, I'm not saying Guardiola isn't talented. But hey, maybe he's just lucky. Like the guy who always lands on a pile of hay when he falls off a building. Wouldn’t you want to see him try to perform his magic with a less star-studded team?
I know what you mean and you have a point, the Barcelona which was coached by Guardiola was one of the best teams that we have ever seen in the entire history of soccer, and while Guardiola had something to do with it, was it so difficult to coach a bunch of players which won the world cup and a Messi which was on his prime? I do not think so, however it is unlikely we will ever see Guardiola coaching one of those teams unless he tries to do this as a way to challenge himself.
C'mon mates, it would be quite unfair to say that coaching Manchester city isn't already a challenge to himself, I mean they are other clubs which might even have players that more standard than that of this Manchester city squad but have fail to do what this man has done with this Manchester city team. With the way Manchester city plays the ball to scoring of many goals, I.mean everything is just pure class and it wouldn't be fair in saying that he is always lucky when its comes to managing of clubs.
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He's just a lucky coach, he always join a strong team and the team willing to extend his contract for many years. I would say Mourinho and Ancelotti are more experienced than Guardiola, both of them have managed various teams although not all of them are successful. But at least they both have struggle experience during manage a mediocre team, Guardiola is always coached all star players.

That's why Pep Guardiola is always in demand by big clubs. because he has a vision and mission to build a strong team to be stronger. apart from that Pep is a coach who is rich in tactics, he has what other coaches don't have. So, if you say Pep is just lucky, you are wrong. because, if you understand a little bit about the system, the tactics and what he showed City. you will find out how smart and brilliant a Pep Guardiola is.

Unfortunately, with City he has not been able to win the Champions League trophy. however, this season, Pep Guardiola has the opportunity to return to bring his team to win a trophy that has always been the target of Manchester City and at the same time has the potential to win a treble winner. if, Pep Guardiola is able to make it happen, he will make history for himself as a coach who has won a treble winner with two different clubs.
IMO, I will say, that Pep is much better than Jose Mourinho and also Ancelotti.
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He's just a lucky coach, he always join a strong team and the team willing to extend his contract for many years. I would say Mourinho and Ancelotti are more experienced than Guardiola, both of them have managed various teams although not all of them are successful. But at least they both have struggle experience during manage a mediocre team, Guardiola is always coached all star players.

I do agree with you. I never seen him coaching the small clubs. He has been getting good result when pep was still on the barcelona but it will be so good to see him coaching the weak clubs without good financial.
As far as i know that if pep has always been coaching some big clubs in europa like bayern, barcelona and this time manchester city. It's not the same like mourinho which was always coaching big or small clubs.
We may be able to see pep to be a coach for a small club when his age becomes even older than this time.

It will be a huge challenge for pep. Im willing to see him managing the club in bad condition. The luckiest coach this century.

Even though Pep Guardiola has good experience, the reality is that Pep Guardiola can still fail despite coaching big teams. You can also consider how long it will take for Pep Guardiola to build Manchester City stronger and better in the Premier League and also in the Champions League. In fact, Pep Guardiola also still failed on several occasions but amazingly, Pep Guardiola was able to recover the team quickly.

If you compare him with Ancelotti and Mourinho, in fact, the two coaches also initially always coached big teams with good finances. But as time goes by, when they fail they can't quickly recover the team. It was a different case with Pep Guardiola who has better skills in building and restoring teams, so that Pep Guardiola can survive in coaching big teams.

So in this case, I don't agree with what you said about Pep Guardiola just being a lucky coach. Because after all, if Pep Guardiola doesn't have good abilities, of course Pep Guardiola won't be able to train big teams with good finances so far.
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Everyone also knows that Manchester City is much better than Inter and I also agree with that statement. However, there are a number of small things that might make it difficult for Manchester City to achieve their goal of getting a treble winner this season. Lately Inter have been in good form in Serie A or other competitions in Italy and they have managed to win two trophies so far. Even though Inter are not favored at all to win the champions league this season, I think they will still surprise them for sure.

We know Manchester City has a pattern of attacks from various sides and often presses hard, but Inter have had a pretty extraordinary defense in the last few games and their level of productivity has increased so far. I think that Manchester City's chances of winning the Champions League are very big, but Inter only need a 1% chance to overturn that advantage.
That is part of Inter Milan's strengths, which have an increasingly solid defense in the previous few matches and Inter Milan has a gap to hold Man City until the game is over and penalties are a good scenario for Inter Milan in the final later. But so far the composition of Man City's players is so complete on all fronts, we can see how the Real Madrid players keep their movements and don't let Haaland score goals and Man City always has other options as a substitute for Haaland in scoring goals

I'm not trying to underestimate Inter Milan's strength because after all they still have hope of coming out as champions, but talking about other strengths and counts Man City is far superior. Unless Inter Milan can implement a good defensive strategy and not let Man City score goals, then they can try their luck through a penalty shootout scenario.
It is quite reasonable if the worst scenario for Manchester City is that Inter manages to hold the draw to a penalty shootout, so that the team that was so favored before can experience a mental decline in this very draining match. Regarding the previous match between Manchester City and Real Madrid, it is certain that Real Madrid will be confused about the possession game and the high pressing that is often used by Pep Guardiola. But Inter are famous for their strong defense and I think it can be an advantage for Inter to put pressure on Manchester City again.
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Everyone also knows that Manchester City is much better than Inter and I also agree with that statement. However, there are a number of small things that might make it difficult for Manchester City to achieve their goal of getting a treble winner this season. Lately Inter have been in good form in Serie A or other competitions in Italy and they have managed to win two trophies so far. Even though Inter are not favored at all to win the champions league this season, I think they will still surprise them for sure.

We know Manchester City has a pattern of attacks from various sides and often presses hard, but Inter have had a pretty extraordinary defense in the last few games and their level of productivity has increased so far. I think that Manchester City's chances of winning the Champions League are very big, but Inter only need a 1% chance to overturn that advantage.
That is part of Inter Milan's strengths, which have an increasingly solid defense in the previous few matches and Inter Milan has a gap to hold Man City until the game is over and penalties are a good scenario for Inter Milan in the final later. But so far the composition of Man City's players is so complete on all fronts, we can see how the Real Madrid players keep their movements and don't let Haaland score goals and Man City always has other options as a substitute for Haaland in scoring goals

I'm not trying to underestimate Inter Milan's strength because after all they still have hope of coming out as champions, but talking about other strengths and counts Man City is far superior. Unless Inter Milan can implement a good defensive strategy and not let Man City score goals, then they can try their luck through a penalty shootout scenario.
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You know, I was just thinking about the way people sing Guardiola's praises. I mean, sure, he's a whiz when it comes to strategies and game reading - but that doesn't mean he's the only one in this game with smarts! Let's consider Mourinho and Ancelotti for a moment. They've helmed more teams than Guardiola and not all of them were top-of-the-line clubs. They've got battle scars, man! They’ve played the game in the mud and the dirt and the grime! Has Pep ever done that?

Of course, I'm not saying Guardiola isn't talented. But hey, maybe he's just lucky. Like the guy who always lands on a pile of hay when he falls off a building. Wouldn’t you want to see him try to perform his magic with a less star-studded team?
I know what you mean and you have a point, the Barcelona which was coached by Guardiola was one of the best teams that we have ever seen in the entire history of soccer, and while Guardiola had something to do with it, was it so difficult to coach a bunch of players which won the world cup and a Messi which was on his prime? I do not think so, however it is unlikely we will ever see Guardiola coaching one of those teams unless he tries to do this as a way to challenge himself.
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If it's just to get to the Champions League final, actually it won't make Pep Guardiola so proud. But the thing that will make Pep Guardiola very proud of Manchester City this season is if Manchester City are able to win a trophy in the Champions League and also two trophies in the Premier League where one of them has been obtained and there is only one more that Manchester City will really try to do this season. Namely the FA Cup trophy so that this will really make Pep Guardiola proud because he was able to win three trophies at once this season.
Pep Guardiola is already one of the legendary coaches in UEFA history with his amazing record as he won 6 trophies in one season with Barcelona, and now they are going to complete double if they won against Inter in Champions League and if they won against Manchester United in The FA Cup then surely this could be treble and then many more chances against for them in coming months because before next season we will have Community Shield and UEFA Super Cup mean now we can talk about can he repeat his record again or just having few trophies with Manchester City can be done for him.

If we are able to check his history, he already achieved many milestones as coach and still capable of doing many things in near future here or with any new club because energy and skills are both favoring his bright future like his amazing past.
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Pep Guardiola's coaching record is quite impressive, in the last 14 seasons he was able to bring his team to 11th place in the domestic league with 3 teams in different leagues, Barcelona, Bayern and Man City, this is truly an extraordinary achievement.
and as a whole Man City's performance continues to grow every season with continuous improvements bringing them to the UCL final this season and are highly favored to become champions, indeed all of this cannot be separated from Pep Guardiola's great contribution.

This season Man City's target is a treble winner, they have won the Premier League, their FA and UCL will play in the final so it is very likely that they will fulfill this target.
Guardiola is a very experienced coach with great ideas and strategies, he’s a tactical genius because he is always four steps ahead when it comes down to reading games. In his first Manchester City press release he said he was here in England to prove himself that he can do what he did in Barcelona and Bayern Munich in tbe EPL and so far he has and have proven himself just as he predicted, he is indeed one of the best in the game.
You know, I was just thinking about the way people sing Guardiola's praises. I mean, sure, he's a whiz when it comes to strategies and game reading - but that doesn't mean he's the only one in this game with smarts! Let's consider Mourinho and Ancelotti for a moment. They've helmed more teams than Guardiola and not all of them were top-of-the-line clubs. They've got battle scars, man! They’ve played the game in the mud and the dirt and the grime! Has Pep ever done that?

Of course, I'm not saying Guardiola isn't talented. But hey, maybe he's just lucky. Like the guy who always lands on a pile of hay when he falls off a building. Wouldn’t you want to see him try to perform his magic with a less star-studded team?
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Considering the game between Manchester City and Inter Milan, you need to just check the road they had to the final match



Manchester City had to beat many stronger teams like Bayern Munich and Real Madrid and they had a much harder way to the final match than Inter Milan because Inter Milan just played against Benfica and Ac Milan in the last two games and compared to Manchester City they were lucky.
I think Manchester City is in much better form to beat Inter Milan.
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He's just a lucky coach, he always join a strong team and the team willing to extend his contract for many years. I would say Mourinho and Ancelotti are more experienced than Guardiola, both of them have managed various teams although not all of them are successful. But at least they both have struggle experience during manage a mediocre team, Guardiola is always coached all star players.

I do agree with you. I never seen him coaching the small clubs. He has been getting good result when pep was still on the barcelona but it will be so good to see him coaching the weak clubs without good financial.
As far as i know that if pep has always been coaching some big clubs in europa like bayern, barcelona and this time manchester city. It's not the same like mourinho which was always coaching big or small clubs.
We may be able to see pep to be a coach for a small club when his age becomes even older than this time.

It will be a huge challenge for pep. Im willing to see him managing the club in bad condition. The luckiest coach this century.
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Especially in the final? What are you talking about, they were in the final 13 years ago, and don't compare experience, you look at the physical stats of the teams. Manchester City are three heads above and stronger than Inter... I didn't see anything special in their game against Milan, who have been performing mildly underwhelming this season.
Of course I know that Manchester City's performance and their hard work to reach the final this season are much better and harder than Inter. I agree that Manchester City are the favorites to win the title, but considering this is football, experience and Inter's chances and confidence to win titles cannot be ignored either.

Inter are not the favourites, their form has been unstable but it is still very reasonable to think that Inter also have chance in the final. Manchester City cannot take Inter lightly for any reason even though Inter's players today are no longer the same as when they won titles in the past.

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The experienced Inter Milan squad is not the same as the current Inter squad. That is past greatness for the team, and now is a different time and season. Manchester City are the overwhelming favorites to win the Champions League, and this is not something to be doubtful about.
You should know that I had absolutely no idea that Manchester City would miss another final this season. This means that I agree and believe that they are the strongest team that deserves to win the title, but on the other hand Inter also have the same chance even though the probability they have is very low.

I don't doubt Manchester City, but I'm just a little curious about how Pep Guardiola will change his strategy if Inter are too busy defending from the first half instead of play offensive. Pep's strategy so far hasn't been very effective against teams with strong defences, so this is something I'm worried about.

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The previous final with Chelsea must have been a wake-up call for them, and they will not take this one lightly. If they want to excel in the final, they must first ensure that Inter does not score first, because if they do, they will not allow Manchester City to equalize, which will disappoint  them even more.
Of course, Manchester City will have to do something similar to when they beat Real Madrid in the second leg of the semi-final. If Manchester City concede first, then I believe Pep and the Manchester City players will have a very hard time finding goals.
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in the Domestic league Pep Guardiola was very successful but on the European stage it was not the case, Pep Guardiola failed to bring Bayern Munich to win the UCL and now Pep is very ambitious to make history for Man COity by winning his first Champion League title.
no one doubts that Pep Guardiola is one of the best coaches in the world right now, look at the development of Man City when handled by Pep Guardiola, there are so many developments and the birth of new star players at Man City.
After leaving Barcelona, Pep Guardiola has not been able to present the champion league title for the team he has handled, such as Bayern Munich, but after several attempts and finally with Manchester City, he now has another chance to be able to give the champion league title to the citizen. Maybe many people have predicted long ago that Manchester City will advance to the Champions League final if they beat Real Madrid and now might be the last chance for him to be able to lift this trophy if he beats Inter.

In my opinion, next season Manchester City may not be able to reach the finals as it is now because of course all the teams will be competing again for two places in the finals and this is an opportunity for Pep Guardiola to present Manchester City's first Champions League title.
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I think that Manchester City's performance this season is much better than last season and that can be seen from everything in terms of performance or consistency, regardless of the decline that has occurred in the Real Madrid team so that Man City can beat them in the semifinals of the UCL this season.
and it cannot be denied that the presence of Haaland this season on the Man City front line has made their front line much better.
they are the favorites to win this season and that makes a lot of sense when looking at their performance so far this season, and I think they deserve to be champions this season.
they beat Madrid with a very promising score. Madrid is not a weak team in the Champions League, and Man City has shown that they are stronger this season.
facing Inter in the final, of course Haaland and friends have a bigger chance to win. However Inter cannot be underestimated even though they are not much stronger than Man City.
But this is the final fight, anything can happen here. Man City has a chance, so does Inter, who came to the final not to give up on Man City.
It's not uncommon for Man City to beat Real Madrid with a big score, it's a big achievement they have faced this season, of course the final will be very much awaited by fans of all of them.

I know how many people praise Man City in the final because they have high creativity in the game they have, but Inter is a tough opponent in my opinion after winning the Coppa Italia they will also be more enthusiastic than Man United, it's not a matter of home or away, Whoever later will become history in Turkey will be the fight.

I think Man City won't be easy to win with a lot of scores Inter there is motivation for that in the champions league final their vigilance in defense is very important.
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The new history that will be achieved by Manchester city at this time can make Pep Guardiola proud while he is Manchester city coach.
There may be similarities between last season's performance and this season's but I see a very strong improvement in the Manchester City players who have won the Premier League successfully and are now able to reach the top of the Champions League final which is in sight to be able to achieve it.
If it's just to get to the Champions League final, actually it won't make Pep Guardiola so proud. But the thing that will make Pep Guardiola very proud of Manchester City this season is if Manchester City are able to win a trophy in the Champions League and also two trophies in the Premier League where one of them has been obtained and there is only one more that Manchester City will really try to do this season. Namely the FA Cup trophy so that this will really make Pep Guardiola proud because he was able to win three trophies at once this season.
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